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by joe sz
Tue May 28, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: ramtha not a god according to hindu scripture
Replies: 4
Views: 2761

Re: ramtha not a god according to hindu scripture

as I understand it, the indigenous peoples of early Indus culture are only part of what became Hinduism. The "Aryan" peoples came from somewhere around modern Iran/Persia, brought their "sky god" culture with them (Indra), and absorbed gods like Soma, Agni after conquering the Indus people. All I am...
by joe sz
Fri May 29, 2015 3:31 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Legal Aid fund for David McCarthy
Replies: 0
Views: 2207

Legal Aid fund for David McCarthy

http://www.gofundme.com/v8q3j8 Hi. Joe Szimhart here. One week ago I took it upon myself to set up this gofundme account in the USA to assist David McCarthy ease his $42,000+ (NZ) debt accrued while trying to fight a lawsuit by JZ Knight/Ramtha. For reasons posted elsewhere on EMF, David was forced ...
by joe sz
Fri May 29, 2015 3:27 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Funding David McCarthy's legal debt
Replies: 2
Views: 1900

Funding David McCarthy's legal debt

http://www.gofundme.com/v8q3j8 Hi. Joe Szimhart here. One week ago I took it upon myself to set up this gofundme account in the USA to assist David McCarthy ease his $42,000+ (NZ) debt accrued while trying to fight a lawsuit by JZ Knight/Ramtha. For reasons posted elsewhere on EMF, David was forced ...
by joe sz
Thu May 21, 2015 3:34 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: open letter to future and former RSE folks
Replies: 0
Views: 2514

open letter to future and former RSE folks

I sense things fading with this EMF support site and this may be my last post here. I chose this topic thread because the question of cult and RSE seems to trigger a host of other questions. My answer to the cult question was offered 2 decades ago when I first wrote my 'Ramtha paper' in the early 19...
by joe sz
Tue May 19, 2015 2:24 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: cult members and crazy
Replies: 0
Views: 2904

cult members and crazy

http://inpp2015.com/speakers/killer-cult-members-and-the-insanity-plea-exploring-the-line-between-belief-and-delusion/ Killer Cult Members and the Insanity Plea: Exploring the Line Between Belief and Delusion Author: Dr. Brian Holoyda Affiliation: University of California, Davis Medical Center Topic...
by joe sz
Wed May 13, 2015 12:34 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Lawsuit between the Freedom Foundation and JZK, Inc. has been dismissed
Replies: 34
Views: 6189

Re: Lawsuit between the Freedom Foundation and JZK, Inc. has been dismissed

Thanks to Glen for his noble effort.
JZ knows there is blood in the water and she is still bleeding from her stupid drunken rants.
The Cynics of Diogenes will not stop barking
cynic means 'doglike'
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/enc ... genes.html
by joe sz
Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:59 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Shattered by the experience: JZK's birthday celebration RSE
Replies: 4
Views: 2663

Re: Shattered by the experience: JZK's birthday celebration RSE

Do not recall hearing this birthday celebration story before, David. Your processing is very very common with emerging defectors from cults. Thge choice to defect usually goes in stages with the most important belief the last thing to collapse. I defected from CUT [Summit Lighthouse] and cut all tie...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:47 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Ektara? Her letter below is a prime example we can refer to of how RSE harms the brain by creating a remarkably constricted thinking process. This poor woman has no idea how blinded she has become to true dialog, research, and science. "So when I read your scandalous article, it was clear to me that...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:29 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Replies: 12
Views: 2542

Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion

also recall that Judith Hampton was/is an alcoholic with all the hallmarks of someone NOT and NEVER in recovery. Oh, yes, she went on the wagon for a time in early mid 1980s when everyone changed from toasting "To Life" at end of dialogs from using red wine to clear water, but Judith's manipulative ...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:12 pm
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2761

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

as david is aware, I have had my "days" in court over cult matters on both sides of the issue many times including that month long trial for criminal charges in Idaho in 1993. I won in both situations in my defense. Another was a civil case when a dangerous martial arts cult sued me with many ex-mem...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:31 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: isn't ancient and current religion based on channeled info
Replies: 2
Views: 1674

Re: Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post thr

Nor is it a question of "faith". Is or isn't ancient and current religion based on channeled information? On the same thing JZ is founded upon-doing? forever. your questions begs equivocation. That means you are using the word "religion" as a stereotype suggesting it might be the "same thing" as JZ...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:12 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: new religions in Quebec
Replies: 0
Views: 2467

new religions in Quebec

NB: This article relies heavily on sociological input, which tends to "tolerate" quirky new religions...Joe MARCH 16, 2015 Reconceptualizing Higher Power(s) Exploring new religious movements in Quebec The McGill Daily | Visual by Alice Shen and Andy Wei Montreal’s religiosity, both past and present,...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:16 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Cult attraction: Aum Shinrikyo’s power of persuasion
Replies: 0
Views: 2251

Cult attraction: Aum Shinrikyo’s power of persuasion

Cult attraction: Aum Shinrikyo’s power of persuasion Ahead of the 20th anniversary of Aum Shinrikyo’s deadly sarin attack in Tokyo, we talk to three people with intimate knowledge of the cult in a bid to find out how it was able to exert so much influence over its followers The Japan Times BY MASAMI...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:09 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4129

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

quite right, forever. No one is a born skeptic. Skepticism is an art as well as science--not a science. It takes hard work to be good at it and even then the best skeptic can be fooled. Reaching out for better sources of information has nothing to do with not believing in yourself. Unfortunately, we...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:29 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4129

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

forever, I agree with you that the "victim" is also responsible with this proviso: To the extent that he or she can be responsible. Children born or dragged into cults are true victims, as are the elderly and mentally unstable who are preyed on by unscrupulous religious leaders looking for the inher...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:14 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4129

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

All occult (hidden knowledge) groups tap your curiosity for those big W questions about the most important person in the world, "I": Who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going? What am I? the White book was partly based on Love Yourself Into Life. That dumb title should be enough to dissuade anyone w...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:05 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Physicians and other professions ignoring the Cult Issue.
Replies: 2
Views: 1918

Re: Physicians and other professions ignoring the Cult Issue

I share your pain, David. These things come to mind as to WHY not much is being done about this problem of harmful cult formation. !. There is no money in it. Look at how in America anyway cult awareness activists have struggled on donations and volunteer labor. ICSA, for example, cannot afford to p...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:08 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: power of hypnosis: fake guru controls girls as sex slaves
Replies: 0
Views: 2426

power of hypnosis: fake guru controls girls as sex slaves

Tuesday 10 March 2015 Australian fake Hare Krishna guru jailed for repeated rape of three teenage French girls By RFI An Australian man who passed himself off as a Hare Krishna guru was on Monday sentenced to 19 years in jail in France for repeatedly raping three teenage girls he turned into sex sla...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:04 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Thanks, David. I walked my dog, Aria this morning. Despite the warm-up there is still black ice on side walks this early. My legs went out from under me once yesterday. Aria looked at me as if to say, "What are you doing down here?" Not injured at all. A miracle for a guy my age! It struck me that A...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:41 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School
Replies: 7
Views: 2064

Re: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School

There are a lot of neo-Gnostic cults operating in past decades, so there is nothing unique in being "Gnostic." Maybe JZ did not like the "contamination"...and she could not trademark Gnostic school.... I dealt with many confused ex-members from various Gnostic cults over the years...most contacted m...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:12 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4495

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

One of the flaws I have noted over the years in ex-member recovery is too much attention to the cult they defected from and not enough comparative research. It is easy to get myopic in recovery. I hear people say how "powerful" their cult leader's charisma was compared to others, for example. I reca...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:11 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School
Replies: 7
Views: 2064

Re: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School

new age cults tend to operate by creating one new crisis after another. Cult members have short memories as everything is considered "New" in New Age and "progressive" in revelation. Experience in the moment is what counts. Struggling to sustain enduring wisdom is too hard on the brain. T S Elliot f...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:52 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3046

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

It was Guy Ballard (Godfre Ray King) of the "I AM" cult who hired the fascist Silver Shirt treasurer to be his road manager of "I AM" in early 1930s. Hubbard of Scientology was involved with Jack Parsons (a real rocket scientist...not a pun! He has a crater on the Moon named after him) who was immer...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:41 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: PSEUDO-SCIENCE
Replies: 4
Views: 1817

Re: PSEUDO-SCIENCE

good point, forever.
cults like RSE tap the dumb in us.

and there is a lot of dumb :lol:
by joe sz
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:35 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3046

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

the reptile is an old devil in western human mythmaking: snakes, dragons. yes I recall all the cult buzz about alien reptlian race invasion among mid- late 1980s Ramtha devotees. I think then old V series had an effect mon JZ, but there was the new one also some years ago...2009?: http://en.wikipedi...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:06 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: PSEUDO-SCIENCE
Replies: 4
Views: 1817

PSEUDO-SCIENCE

Pseudo Science And The Age Of Irrationalism Forbes 3/07/2015 Mike Collins Wikipedia defines pseudo science as “a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably te...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:44 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4495

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

does anyone know where JZ got the "find the cards on the fence blindfolded" idea? I get what forever is saying. We cannot dismiss the results without an objective observer(s) present during field work over time. But I think overall, chance is the rule and certainly not the exception by all accounts ...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:00 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3046

RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants

The Last Waltz of the Tyrants: The Prophecy by Judi Pope Koteen Beyond Words Publishing, 1988 looks like the big R is running out of material, a 1988 book is being recycled with new editing http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Nature-Reality-Understanding-Interdimensional/dp/0962726745/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=U...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:09 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4495

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

2 things come to mind, forever. 1. You imply that whenever someone truly seems to use paranormal powers of mind, JZ may not want to acknowledge it. You were a newbe, not a trusted choir member yet. No psychopath will trust a person unless they know they can manipulate them first. 2. The premise of R...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:39 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

You are not your body is the foundation of Christianity. I am not here to defend or promote any religion, but when anyone makes a global statement about a religion that needs clarification, I sometimes try to clarify. Pentecostals like the early Gnostics tend to act as if the spirit and body are se...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:04 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

It is too late to test JZ that way. She will not allow it. The fact that she does not allow it is to me complete proof that she and Ramtha are the same person...one is just as dumb and not psychic as the other. I would never publish what I would actually ask Ramtha or any spook anyway. This only wor...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:02 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

I am rereading Wittgenstein's Poker: The Story of a Ten-Minute Argument Between Two Great Philosophers 2001 The argument took place in 1946 at the Moral Science Club weekly meeting at Cambridge, King's College in the UK. Carl Popper was the guest and Ludwig Wittgenstein the chairman. The great mathe...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:30 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

I echo journey...do not take in more than we can chew! science never claims to be absolute. new evidence can lead to new conclusions. and by all means, check out the man behind the curtain! pseudo-science begs you not to look at the man behind the curtain. it begs you to trust your intuition, your "...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:02 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

And quite frankly i have learned not to tamper with other peoples reality. I am not an authority on how others should live, be, and don't want to be. You may want to revisit that statement or sentiment someday. I get that if you are not an authority, then do not tamper. But I think we do even if we...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:47 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

you are not your body is an old discussion. Most Hindus believe in a "jiva" or Atman that operates the body, then leaves it at death. Buddhists do not. Shamans have notoriously believed in OBE to "travel" to a mystical realm, to "die," get dismembered like Osiris did, then "resurrect," with newly ga...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:55 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

it is merely a side show with DNA to divert the simplest therefore most elegant way to test if Ramtha is independent of JZ. I used this test on several mediums that channel Masters like Ramtha while I was in their audience among believers. In all cases i had to pay to be at the event, but I knew ahe...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:49 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Independence
Replies: 2
Views: 1729

Re: Independence

Since the 19th century, women have been in the majority in groups like Theosophy, Christian Science, and what we tend to call New Age. It is partially a rebellion against the rampant chauvinism that developed in major religions side issue, but I thought of this: before Christianity became "a religio...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:24 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

whoa, forever! in mental status reports i do your gush of questions come close to a "flight of ideas." I have done over 300 successful interventions over the years. In a few days i have watched a cult person in a self-sealing set of rationalizations "snap" or rather pop like a cork was released afte...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:40 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 6726

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

doing my bit to spread the good news about JZ dna scam http://jszimhart.com/blog/ramthas_dna forever feeling overwhelmed is normal when trying to unravel the cult mess we were in. take a break. there are more important things than EMF and RSE is not going to go away any time soon no matter how much ...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:12 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: do unto others
Replies: 16
Views: 2494

Re: do unto others

forever, I live in an Amish area too and often buy at Amish and Mennonite markets. They have many magnificent horses, some recovered and retrained from the regional harness racing industry. http://modernfarmer.com/2013/06/racehorses-amish-buggy/ In my work at a psych hospital, we in the intake and c...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:48 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

will try again:
Characteristics of Knowledge Claimed
Analytic category
Reason + + is both Communicable and Verifiable or Falsifiable
Faith + - is Communicable but not Verifiable
Gnosis - - is not Communicable and not Verifiable
by joe sz
Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:44 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

the characteristics of knowledge typology above did not print out well: will try again Characteristics of Knowledge Claimed Analytic category Communicable Verifiable or Falsifiable Reason + + Faith + - Gnosis - -
by joe sz
Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:39 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

ok pseudo science, religion, RSE. no discussion can proceed without some definition of terms and premises. Over the years a few EMF posters have accused me of having "an agenda." Some of the accusations and vitriol include being "Roman Catholic", being totally skeptical, dismissing 'spiritual experi...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:02 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3295

Re: pseudoscience/define

excellent questions, forever. careful, you might become a "philosopher." :shock: Philosophy is not about answers...it is about refining the questions that lead to better answers. Philosophy is the Great Debate. I have been writing a monograph that addresses the questions you ask because they are the...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:53 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2529

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

PS; To clarify my point. It would take a lot of work for you or anyone to provide evidence of a miracle claim. Links to county records, certified affidavits from reliable witnesses, etc. Even at that rate, you would have to be open to an alternative explanation after all the evidence is provided. I ...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:29 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2529

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

My intent was to bring up a core reason why so many people get hooked on cults like RSE. Sorry if i came across as caustic. :sad: ..I am criticizing my cult self as well in this regard. I am not dismissing your story as untrue, and if you have evidence, all the better. But on this thread, it is no m...
by joe sz
Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:10 pm
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2662

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

good point, forever. Historically, RSE is an extension of a form of eccentric Christianity that falls back on "Gnostic" tendencies. Gnosis is merely that direct, immediate knowledge of God or the Source of being, and in Gnostic sects (they were quite different in some ways) if you "knew God", you we...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:30 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2529

Re: what created the miracles that i automatically attribute

forever, I think your "miracle" is whatever you want it to be as a private matter. Corroboration outside of your story will be very difficult, as you have given no compelling reason for anyone else to believe it. It is just your story. I do not disbelieve in miracles or anomalies in reality as we ex...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:00 pm
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2662

phoenix rising school RSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb_bcmYodnI This advert for the RSE school for kids is a disaster in promotion, if you see it from an outside and sane perspective. It is a great tool for exposing RSE and how it damages children. i would use this in court if I had a chance. It opens the discussion of...
by joe sz
Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:24 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: It didn't make sense
Replies: 9
Views: 2161

Re: It didn't make sense

good points, forever. it is obvious once we step outside the self-sealing system of thought. If we look back in history, court magicians never or rarely ruled like Wizards of OZ. Pharaoh had his magicians to challenge Moses--you know that story--and I mean story --about the staff of Moses changing i...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:59 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Replies: 61
Views: 4167

Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.

Hating what she does is always appropriate, Shocked. Hating JZ is another matter. I would not trust her to walk my dog, let alone run my life with her ideas, and I certainly have personally aided dozens of cult members leave her circle, thus perhaps costing her mega bugs because many I worked with w...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:41 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Grupo Elron on JZ and Ramtha
Replies: 5
Views: 1325

Re: Grupo Elron on JZ and Ramtha

If I were an intelligent alien being with the capacity to communicate to humans on earth, I would just do it and not play creepy games with their brains. If Ramtha can appear to JZ, the big warrior bastard who likes to hurl F bombs when he is drunk, can easily appear to anyone, even throngs of peopl...
by joe sz
Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:02 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Grupo Elron on JZ and Ramtha
Replies: 5
Views: 1325

Grupo Elron on JZ and Ramtha

not sure what to make of this, but it appears to be some kind of Scientology spinoff that relies on channeling the Masters of Lght http://unveiledsecretsandmessagesoflight.blogspot.com/2010/01/j-z-knight-and-ramtha.html J.Z. KNIGHT AND RAMTHA The tragedy of unbalanced channelers The case of “Ramtha'...
by joe sz
Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:00 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Replies: 61
Views: 4167

Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.

this thread might even leave Heidegger breathless trying to catch up with the platitudes and heavenly ideas! Heidegger remains on the short list of important 20th Century philosophers. The reason I bring him up is not because he was in sympathy with Nazis, rather his late work bordered on a mysticis...
by joe sz
Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Replies: 61
Views: 4167

Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.

Hi MindState. you're having quite a journey! glad you are past RSE I will not belabor this. The Great Work is a familiar phrase to me. It's been used by alchemists and occultists of various persuasions from Freemasons to Theosophists for centuries to indicate initiation into "the Mysteries" and comi...
by joe sz
Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:59 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: problems with mindfulness
Replies: 1
Views: 1269

problems with mindfulness

Mindfulness therapy comes at a high price for some, say experts Much-hyped therapy can reduce relapses into depression – but it can have troubling side effects Share 7179 Robert Booth The Guardian, Monday 25 August 2014 11.13 EDT a meditation class in mindfulness MBCT courses are proliferating acro...
by joe sz
Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:54 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: SCIENTOLOGY EXECS HARASS EX-MEMBER
Replies: 1
Views: 1277

SCIENTOLOGY EXECS HARASS EX-MEMBER

creepy execs from Scientology did this to me at conferences several times..always fun, these guys! :-) http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/ Top Scientology Leaders Caught In Videotaped Verbal Assault At LAX International Business Times By Zoe Mintz @ZoeMintzz.mintz@ibtimes.com October 21 2014 A former ...
by joe sz
Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:30 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: christian science and famous devotees
Replies: 14
Views: 1429

Re: christian science and famous devotees

I recently reviewed a book, "These Cults" by Annie R Hale (1926) that covers many of the early healing cults as opposed to "regular medicine." Hale was an apologist for alternative spirituality (i will post my review below) CS started when Mary Baker was "cured" of severe back pain by Phineas Quimby...
by joe sz
Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:19 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: christian science and famous devotees
Replies: 14
Views: 1429

Re: christian science and famous devotees

I knew a successful column writer on religion who said she converted to CS after her 11 yr old son was "cured" by a CS practitioner of a high fever that appeared to be resistant to regular medicine. I was stunned, because she was quite well read and "worldly," that she would not grasp that young kid...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:49 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: christian science and famous devotees
Replies: 14
Views: 1429

christian science and famous devotees

celebrities have been notoriously vulnerable to fringe mysticisms. eg, look at Christian Science: Further information: List of Christian Scientists (religious denomination) Doris Day Notable Scientists have included two former Directors of Central Intelligence, William H. Webster and Admiral Stansfi...
by joe sz
Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:13 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: DSM and cults
Replies: 3
Views: 1201

Re: DSM and cults

'COME, FOLIE WITH ME'...RAMTHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
by joe sz
Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:24 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: DSM and cults
Replies: 3
Views: 1201

Re: DSM and cults

and if you were in a cult like RSE, here you are as Folie imposée in the IDC (International Classification of Diseases) This syndrome is most commonly diagnosed when the two or more individuals concerned live in proximity and may be socially or physically isolated and have little interaction with ot...
by joe sz
Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:31 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: DSM and cults
Replies: 3
Views: 1201

DSM and cults

the DSM 5 is the latest Diagnostic Statistical Manual for mental health and social disorders. It will most likely be replaced soon by another, more scientific system, but this commentary and supplement for DSM 4 is interesting in light of the cult problem, something I will be writing an article abou...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:41 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: MEK Islamist cult ex-member
Replies: 1
Views: 938

Re: MEK Islamist cult ex-member

Cult leaders want something more than governing a city or country – they want to govern history. They want to change the structure of humanity.
JZ wants to govern history via revisioning through "timelines", with fake science, and using magic powers.
by joe sz
Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:36 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: MEK Islamist cult ex-member
Replies: 1
Views: 938

MEK Islamist cult ex-member

RSE like :?: A FORMER MEK MEMBER SPEAKS ABOUT THE 'CULT' OF EXTREMISM Vice By Adam Forrest Sep 2 2014 In 1979, Masoud Banisadr was a young postgraduate maths student at Newcastle University, watching political upheaval in his homeland of Iran on the nightly news. After the fall of the Western-backed...
by joe sz
Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:48 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Stefan Molyneux -The Fascists That Surround You - Sociopaths
Replies: 7
Views: 1353

Re: Stefan Molyneux -The Fascists That Surround You - Sociop

For the last 5-6 years I have been helping parents and families who have young adults caught up in Stefan Molyneux's "cult" of ideas. This guy is toxic and his philosophy (anti-statism and anti-parents) is all libertarian bull crap derivative of Ayn Rand to an extent. Moly...and his FDR webcasts enc...
by joe sz
Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:43 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Ramtha asleep at the switch - Napa, California earthquake
Replies: 1
Views: 1390

Re: Ramtha asleep at the switch - Napa, California earthquak

all the psychics on the planet were asleep on this one.
I wonder why that is :?: :lol:
by joe sz
Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:13 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: cool mazes
Replies: 0
Views: 1726

cool mazes

no need for stupid blindfolds to enter:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/ww ... MzcxOTg5S0
by joe sz
Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:30 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: C’mon, JZ Knight . . . How Many Accents Does Ramtha Have?
Replies: 1
Views: 974

Re: C’mon, JZ Knight . . . How Many Accents Does Ramtha Have

good article...funny what Cook misses is what Dr. Margaret Singer picked up right away in the early era, @ 1984, that JZ as Ramtha is mimicking Yul Brynner in his roles in the "King and I", and more so in his role as Ramses in "The Ten Commandments" thus the theatrical quasi-Brit accent and the slap...
by joe sz
Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:17 pm
Forum: EMF International Forum
Topic: French approach to cults
Replies: 0
Views: 1761

French approach to cults

The French want to make society safe for religion by banning so-called cults Public Radio International PRI's The World Reporter Gerry Hadden July 12, 2014 One fall day, way back in 1986, Charline Delporte lost her daughter — to a cult. “Her new friends just showed up and they packed her things int...
by joe sz
Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:55 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: quantum ramtha
Replies: 5
Views: 2388

Re: quantum ramtha

JZ's misuse of 'quantum physics' has been a real laugher among anyone that grasps what particle physics entails. Here is a good read from Prof Anderson who addresses that fact that you cannot go to a reductionist view of a human being as a "bunch of quarks and electrons" and determine human behavior...
by joe sz
Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:37 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Phillip Anderson Nobel Prize winner and physics
Replies: 0
Views: 1719

Phillip Anderson Nobel Prize winner and physics

JZ's misuse of 'quantum physics' has been a real laugher among anyone that grasps what particle physics entails. Here is a good read from Prof Anderson who addresses that fact that you cannot go to a reductionist view of a human being as a "bunch of quarks and electrons" and determine human behavior...
by joe sz
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:45 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: stargate episode ascended master
Replies: 0
Views: 1720

stargate episode ascended master

watched an older 2008 scifi film Stargate: The Ark of Truth Not the best film but the theme involved "ascension" by name and how an "ascended being" can also be a totally evil goddess/god. Also, how chanting can cast a powerful spell...reminded me of my old cult CUT..we chanted "decrees" to cast spe...
by joe sz
Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:09 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Ramtha JZ irrelevant
Replies: 0
Views: 1749

Ramtha JZ irrelevant

Discussion about cults has diminished since the 1970s-1980s. The drop-off coincided with the practical end of coercive deprogrammings around 1991. Iow, if you do not have to risk prosecution to get someone out of a cult, then they are irrelevant and 'not so bad' any more. http://www.patheos.com/blog...
by joe sz
Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:41 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Quannengshen: a peak at cult conflicts in China
Replies: 0
Views: 1897

Quannengshen: a peak at cult conflicts in China

A secretive cult that exploits the weak and vulnerable 2014-06-26 China Daily Web Editor: Wang Fan The Quannengshen, or Eastern Lightening, sect was banned in China nearly 20 years ago, but it made national headlines after several of its underground followers were arrested for murdering a woman in ...
by joe sz
Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:37 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: cult info in UK news
Replies: 0
Views: 1675

cult info in UK news

From Scientology to self-help: Britain’s cult culture ISIS Magazine BY EMMA HEWITT JUNE 9, 2014 For most educated people the idea that they could be vulnerable to the promises of a cult seems laughable. But according to Ian Haworth, founder of the Cult Information Centre , Oxbridge students are amo...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:19 pm
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ
Replies: 4
Views: 1217

Re: COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ

Not all hypnotic subjects go totally unconscious..some watch themselves performing on stage as the hypnotist makes suggestions that they follow as if sleepwalking, not knowing or caring that there is a choice to do otherwise. Hypnosis takes away the locus of control, reduces the anxiety of choice, a...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:08 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ
Replies: 4
Views: 1217

Re: COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ

i'VE BEEN THINKING MORE ABOUT THESE PARA-PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS.. An interesting further investigation, if a statistically significant and repeatable difference in measurements between RSE and non RSE controls had been detected, would have been to compare JZ Knight's Ramtha channeling to a presumed non...
by joe sz
Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:23 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ
Replies: 4
Views: 1217

COMMENTS ON "97" TESTS ON JZ

http://www.religion.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009-Channeled-apparitions-On-visions-that-morph-and-categories-that-slip.-Visual-Resources-251-137-52..pdf 2009 ARTICLE BY ANN TAVES is professor of religious studies at the University of California at Seanta Barbara. She is the author of Fits, Trance...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:16 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Damanhur in Italy and "time travel"
Replies: 1
Views: 1157

Damanhur in Italy and "time travel"

Inside the underground temples of Italian 'cult' that says it has unlocked the secrets to TIME TRAVEL The Damanhur Federation is an eco community based in Piedmont in Italy Members say they have built a time machine, a claim first made in 1997 Have remained silent for 16 years but will elaborate in...
by joe sz
Sat May 31, 2014 6:38 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ALLOWED IN COURT CASE
Replies: 0
Views: 1711

RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ALLOWED IN COURT CASE

Religious beliefs can be used in manslaughter case, judge rules May 27, 2014 By Kyle Odegard, Albany Democrat-Herald A judge ruled last week that religious beliefs and practices can be used as evidence in the manslaughter trials of Travis and Wenona Rossiter, an Albany couple accused of depriving th...
by joe sz
Wed May 28, 2014 8:36 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: FUNNY, EVEN IF IT BELONGS ON "OTHER CULTS"
Replies: 1
Views: 985

FUNNY, EVEN IF IT BELONGS ON "OTHER CULTS"

Pilgrimage to Welsh mountain that's rammed with 'alien power' May 25, 2014 Wales Online By James McCarthy (NO RELATION TO DAVID) ;-) Dozens of members of The Aetherius Society will be climbing Snowdonia's Carnedd Llewelyn this summer to send out spiritual energy A wacky sect who believe Jesus was a...
by joe sz
Mon May 26, 2014 12:26 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blogging about recent ramtha litigation
Replies: 2
Views: 1233

Re: blogging about recent ramtha litigation

addendum to my 'blog' above add as second paragraph: Coverdale disputes the judge's ruling, claiming that the evidence shows she "did not breach the contract." McCarthy signed a settlement but believes that he could have won the case had his health and finances held up. Both ex-members share a convi...
by joe sz
Mon May 26, 2014 12:24 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blogging about recent ramtha litigation
Replies: 2
Views: 1233

blogging about recent ramtha litigation

just posted this rumi--nation ;-) http://jszimhart.com/blog/rights_of_ramtha For over a year now, the Ramtha organization and its leader JZ Knight have been embroiled in litigation with ex-members of the Ramtha School of Enlightenment over live-streamed videos that ex-members and others have posted ...
by joe sz
Tue May 20, 2014 5:58 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: short films on Co$ effective
Replies: 1
Views: 988

Re: short films on Co$ effective

recent legal news of lawyer sued by Scientology Tampa Bay Times, FL By Charlie Frago and Joe Childs, Times Staff Writers Monday, May 19, 2014 TAMPA — The long fight between Tampa lawyer Ken Dandar and the Church of Scientology didn't end Monday, but a federal judge offered scant support to Dandar as...
by joe sz
Mon May 19, 2014 8:37 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: short films on Co$ effective
Replies: 1
Views: 988

short films on Co$ effective

http://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/ TIZIANO LUGLI: A new short film about Scientology and ‘slavery’ Jamie_SorrentiniFormer Scientologist and music producer Tiziano Lugli has given us the opportunity once again to debut one of his highly poli...
by joe sz
Mon May 19, 2014 1:37 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial
Replies: 21
Views: 5755

Re: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial date: Monday 26 May 201

Judy listens to the tapes like every other student, would be her defence [defense in America]. 20/20 Judd Rose in 1988 called Ramtha a "no fault guru" meaning "he's there, but no body can see or touch him." And that means legally. It would be like trying to sue Michael the Archangel or Satan. Have y...
by joe sz
Sun May 18, 2014 1:34 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial
Replies: 21
Views: 5755

Re: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial date: Monday 26 May 201

Yes, time to step away, David.
Let your thoughts and feelings re-collect.

The phoenix shall rise!
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve ... gy%29.html
by joe sz
Fri May 16, 2014 6:42 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Jehovah Witness secret book in court
Replies: 0
Views: 1684

Jehovah Witness secret book in court

16.5.2014 Jehovah's Witnesses to hand over top-secret manual YLE News On Friday Finland's Jehovah's Witnesses will give their religious rule book to the Minister of Justice and the Minister of the Interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with Finnish rule of law. Until now, o...
by joe sz
Sat May 10, 2014 11:57 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN May 9 JZ "opinion"
Replies: 3
Views: 1294

Re: NVN May 9 JZ "opinion"

PS: I was responding above to the NVN editorial by JZ: Editor, Religious scholar Gordon Melton has identified about 2,500 different religious or faith community groups in the United States, about half of which are “nonconventional.” That makes this country one of the most spiritually diverse countri...
by joe sz
Sat May 10, 2014 11:53 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN May 9 JZ "opinion"
Replies: 3
Views: 1294

NVN May 9 JZ "opinion"

"Eventually Justice Will Be Served Against Vigilantes" says Judith Knight. I posted this reply on another site....not NVN Now we see JZ taking an awkward swing at her critics by stereotyping them as dumb conservatives. JZ Knight lamely cloaks herself with the Anti-anticult clique of sociologists who...
by joe sz
Tue May 06, 2014 1:20 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Candle Focus
Replies: 11
Views: 1823

Re: Candle Focus

fleur de lis is the symbol of ascended master Saint Germain claimed guru of Rosicrucianism/Masonry/Theosophy/I AM/ CUT and other sects prior to Ramtha. http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Saint_Germain,_Count_of http://www.summitlighthouse.org/ascended-master-teachings-free/ http://commons.wik...
by joe sz
Thu May 01, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: ex-scientology conference speakers
Replies: 0
Views: 1719

ex-scientology conference speakers

L. Ron Hubbard descendant joins the opposition Orlando Sentinel (blog) Jeff Kunerth May 1, 2014 Jamie DeWolf, great-grandson of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, will speak at next week's anti-Scientology conference "Flag Down 2014." The five-day conference begins Monday, May 5, in Clearwater. Org...
by joe sz
Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:00 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN article re: Dr. Keay's letter to Thurston County
Replies: 5
Views: 1662

Re: NVN article re: Dr. Keay's letter to Thurston County

things heating up a bit..good letter from VC above. I culled this from an RSE website: Ramtha has stated many times great civilizations lived here 35,000 year ago “Ramtha is an ancient warrior, conqueror, and ascended Master who lived 35,000 years ago. Remnants of his life and teachings exist in var...
by joe sz
Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:16 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Coming Out of the Cults By Margaret Singer
Replies: 2
Views: 1339

Re: Coming Out of the Cults By Margaret Singer

M Singer's points are referenced in this new article By Stella Morabito April 15, 2014: http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/15/cults-in-our-midst-patty-hearst-and-the-brainwashing-of-america/ Exactly forty years ago Patricia Hearst stunned the nation when she turned up as a bank robber, a mere two mont...
by joe sz
Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:26 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Dissociative Identity and Ramtha/JZ Knight
Replies: 1
Views: 1259

Dissociative Identity and Ramtha/JZ Knight

I recently posted this essay/blog on DID and Judy's Ramtha alter: http://jszimhart.com/blog/did_and_spook_possession DID and Ramtha Dissociative Identity Disorder and Spirit Possession or “Channeling” Criteria for DID in the DSM-5, the manual that describes various forms of mental, character, and so...
by joe sz
Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:41 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial
Replies: 21
Views: 5755

Re: JZ Knight vs D McCarthy NZ Trial date: Monday 26 May 201

Ramtha could not bring down a lawyerless Missy Genson in Judge Tabor's court yesterday. She reported that he ruled in her favor. She won "access" to RSE materials including the videos, but posting them is another matter. Writing about them is not...freedom of speech reigns, not spooks with expensive...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:59 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: On minors and sects in European court
Replies: 0
Views: 1742

On minors and sects in European court

http://assembly.coe.int/nw/xml/XRef/Xref-XML2HTML-en.asp?fileid=20889&lang=en Resolution 1992 (2014) Provisional version The protection of minors against excesses of sects Council of Europe Author(s): Parliamentary Assembly Origin - Assembly debate on 10 April 2014 (17th Sitting) (see Doc. 13441 , r...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:04 pm
Forum: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at (RSE), a division of JZK Inc.
Topic: Fire, Health and Safety Violations at RSE posted YouTube Sept 10 2012
Replies: 20
Views: 4605

Re: Fire, Health and Safety Violations at RSEYouTube Sept10

RACE does not mean run like hell when a fire breaks out :lol:

this is the US code, the same one we practice regularly at the hospital where I work.
https://www.guideone.com/SafetyResource ... fety08.pdf
by joe sz
Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:00 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN poll IS RSE A CULT...please vote!
Replies: 3
Views: 1457

Re: NVN poll IS RSE A CULT...please vote!

i agree David. this is not only a red-herring but the question is overly vague. C u l t says nothing about a group's nature or behavior other than it is a devotional activity toward a person, idea, object, or place. as I posted on WAVE, the question should be: Is JZ Knight a slimy manipulator with a...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:09 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: God Bless America by Stollznow
Replies: 0
Views: 1516

God Bless America by Stollznow

Ramtha is mentioned in this book but only on p 190 in passing in a chapter called "Something Old, Something New" on the New Age movement. "JZ Knight began channeling the 35,000 year old spirit warrior named Ramtha, although his English is pretty good for someone from the PLeistocene Age." http://www...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:17 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: FBI Hits Yelm Romanian RSE students for Money Laundering
Replies: 22
Views: 4046

Re: FBI Hits Yelm Romanian RSE students for Money Laundering

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Feds-Pair-hiding-with-Yelm-cult-suspected-in-5332472.php A Romanian couple accused in a plot to dodge $73 million in taxes have been arrested after joining followers of a fringe religious movement in Yelm. Radu Nemes and his wife Diana are accused of conspiring...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:19 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: con artist kevin trudeau jailed
Replies: 0
Views: 1778

con artist kevin trudeau jailed

I never could stomach this creep when he was on tv (CNN) -- Kevin Trudeau, the television pitchman and author who amassed a fortune telling consumers his secrets about how to get free money, how to lose weight and how to cure a number of illnesses the natural way, is headed to federal prison. Trudea...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:42 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Diane Benscoter: How cults rewire the brain
Replies: 3
Views: 1127

Re: Diane Benscoter: How cults rewire the brain

I'm aware of the virus hypothesis for mental illnesses like bipolar or schizophrenia. Although inconclusive, I do not doubt that a virus may be one of the causes. What I do know is that most people who develop those disorders have them in the family among grandparents, parents or other close blood r...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:41 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Diane Benscoter: How cults rewire the brain
Replies: 3
Views: 1127

Re: Diane Benscoter: How cults rewire the brain

meme me up, scottie! This meme thing has become a kind of meme since R Dawkins proposed it in the 1970s. I watched the Benscoter TED. It was short so she can not be faulted for leaving a lot out. I hate neologisms sometimes. A Meme "virus" in this negative case is another way to fancy what Conway an...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:00 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: diamond mountain cult on Dateline Mar 9
Replies: 0
Views: 1770

diamond mountain cult on Dateline Mar 9

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/web-ext ... son-n48576

naïve guru devotion, tantric bull sh*t in America, and death of the brainwashed
by joe sz
Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: sister wives illegal
Replies: 0
Views: 1726

sister wives illegal

SISTER WIVES: AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHY POLYGAMY IS, AND SHOULD BE, ILLEGAL


http://www.polygamy.org/polygamy-should ... rettyPhoto
by joe sz
Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:17 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
Replies: 19
Views: 4387

Re: Fiona Regan apparently shot herself

:sad:
it appears she got a burial with a Roman Catholic service near Dublin.

How ironic.
How beautiful that her family would do this for closure and keep her in the family.
by joe sz
Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:59 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: viking apocalypse
Replies: 0
Views: 1779

viking apocalypse

:lol: Viking apocalypse: End of the world predicted to happen on Saturday (but don't cancel your weekend plans yet) Wednesday 19 February 2014 The Independent Heather Saul The end of the world is almost upon us if Norse mythology is to be believed, which predicts the Earth will split open and releas...
by joe sz
Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:04 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: genetic matrix on jzk
Replies: 2
Views: 2475

Re: genetic matrix on jzk

the author is John Yuill from N Wales. He is basically an astrologer with a fancy name [Human Design] but one who does a lot of sociological research on a client's history. Appears to be in his mid-fifties, a true New Age entrepreneur that learned from Tony Robbins :roll: Human Design has impacted e...
by joe sz
Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: genetic matrix on jzk
Replies: 2
Views: 2475

genetic matrix on jzk

http://www.geneticmatrix.com/knight-jz-human-design-chart.html Biography Judy Zebra Knight (born Judith Darlene Hampton on March 16, 1946, in Roswell, New Mexico), usually known as JZ Knight, is an American mystic teacher and author, and is known for claiming to be channel of a spiritual entity name...
by joe sz
Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:53 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Abraham answers the question What is Ramtha.
Replies: 3
Views: 1273

Re: Abraham answers the question What is Ramtha.

"that makes sense" is how the questioner ends this answer by 'abraham' hicks. And that is why channeling is so effective among narcissists who want to believe that deep inside they have a "higher" intuitive or "god" nature that can grasp or "grok" the essence of divine language, of Being in itself.....
by joe sz
Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:48 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: RSE (COP) CONDITIONS OF PARTICIPATION 2014
Replies: 5
Views: 2464

Re: RSE (COP) CONDITIONS OF PARTICIPATION 2014

over the years all so-called secret societies have been exposed in time with internal records being made public from Masonry to Mormonism to Scientology to mass therapies like est and Psi-World. JZ realizes that Father Time is her enemy in more ways than one--from wrinkly, flabby skin to fading into...
by joe sz
Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:53 am
Forum: Keith Raniere - NXIVM
Topic: NXIVM lawsuit updates
Replies: 4
Views: 3423

NXIVM lawsuit updates

Purported Cult May Have Case Against Ex-Member Courthouse News Service By ROSE BOUBOUSHIAN (CN) - A New Jersey family must face claims that they tried to "destroy" NXIVM by giving its confidential files to "counter-cult deprogrammer" Rick Ross, a federal judge ruled. Pronounced "nexium," the Albany,...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:30 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: erase bad memories new research
Replies: 0
Views: 1941

erase bad memories new research

scientology will not like this as the technology uses ECT effectively https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/science-is-inching-closer-to-the-possibility-of-erasing-bad-memories-180948207/ What if we could selectively erase bad memories, whether of war, violence or just a bad relationship? Althou...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:38 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: x JW musician shunned by sect
Replies: 2
Views: 1150

x JW musician shunned by sect

Blessed Feathers band member finds love, resigns from his Jehovah Witness life, loses family to sect shunning rule but lives free and creatively now
http://www.npr.org/2013/12/31/258379763 ... -loving-it

Freedom is another word for nuthin left to lose...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:43 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: ramtha's buddha slop
Replies: 2
Views: 1100

ramtha's buddha slop

Description Opening the Lotus of a Thousand Petals Paperback Ramtha "If we have just discussed the viable science of levitation - in which that you as a heavy, three-dimensional object vibrating according to the hertz of the planet allows you to have the same stability as mass itself - if suddenly ...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:25 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK's Rules of Rape, Hate, Perjury: South Thurston Journal
Replies: 7
Views: 3589

Re: JZK's Rules of Rape and Perjury: South Thurston Journal

david context is everything in this ramtha game that Judy Hampton continues to play out since she released her narcissistic mind muppet onto the new age stage in the late 1970s. According to old Ramtha Dialog productions [available now for a mere $20!], Ramtha is of the Great White Brotherhood of as...
by joe sz
Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:26 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK's Rules of Rape, Hate, Perjury: South Thurston Journal
Replies: 7
Views: 3589

Re: JZK's Rules of Rape and Perjury: South Sound Journal

thanks for posting this, David. Melissa with others worked very hard on getting these stories right, to the point, and accurate.
by joe sz
Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:08 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: interesting tidbit on Ramtha
Replies: 0
Views: 1913

interesting tidbit on Ramtha

In a statement entitled, Ascended Masters, A Revelation of Ignorance written in 1988 and reproduced in his book The Way In, the Australian spiritual teacher, Barry Long described Ascended Masters as half masters who by virtue of the fact that they have come back (by possessing the living bodies of ...
by joe sz
Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:27 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Yearning for the New Age
Replies: 2
Views: 919

Re: Yearning for the New Age

clarification: Laura Holloway-Langford did not reject theosophy per se, but she did reject the Theosophical Society under Blavatsky and Olcott. LHL privately believed in her [LHL's] "mediumistic powers' til the end, yet did not want to be seen as a psychic---a truly complex woman with prodigious wri...
by joe sz
Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:46 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Sylvia Browne
Replies: 12
Views: 1890

Re: Sylvia Browne

friends of my wife that I know recently hired a "medium" to come to a home and communicate with their dead mothers for them. My wife tends to see no harm if that is what they want to do, but I see insult and blasphemy to the legacy of the dead. If my dead grandmothers and grandfathers wanted to talk...
by joe sz
Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:31 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NEW RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS proliferate
Replies: 1
Views: 1116

NEW RELIGIOUS MOVEMENTS proliferate

Hamblin & Peterson: New religious movements meet widely varied needs By William Hamblin and Daniel Peterson , For the Deseret News Saturday, Nov. 16 2013 One of the remarkable things about religion is its tremendous variability. Throughout history, literally hundreds of different religions have form...
by joe sz
Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:10 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: C and E session RAMTHA 2010
Replies: 7
Views: 2798

Re: C and E session RAMTHA 2010

Everyone's body heals itself but I'm speaking of the magical variety which JZ/Ramtha has said you'll have at some point in your training.
good point, seriously speaking :lol:

Ramtha's utter failure is written large all over JZ's surgically redefined face :oops:
by joe sz
Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:14 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Yearning for the New Age
Replies: 2
Views: 919

Re: Yearning for the New Age

long audio interview with author Diane Sasson about the book.

http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2012/07/dian ... rituality/
by joe sz
Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:49 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Yearning for the New Age
Replies: 2
Views: 919

Yearning for the New Age

this is a great book, well researched by Diane Sasson, PhD about Laura Holloway-Langford (1843-1930) who was involved with Madame Blavatsky and Theosophy, was a medium and later rejected Theosophy. everyone that leaves RSE should read this...the New Age and channeling mythical roots are there in Lau...
by joe sz
Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:46 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZK vs D McCarthy US lawsuit Dismissed w Prejudice
Replies: 17
Views: 2684

Re: David McCarthy EMF SLAPP motion against JZK

26 May 2014 will have to mark my callendar. I hope that date sticks. dealing with changes in court dates can wear out defendants. I think it is part of a strategy. JZ lawyers will do everything to give David's team nothing in discovery and then hope the judges ignore their "mistake, ignorance, or in...
by joe sz
Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:41 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: skepticism 101: how to think like a scientist
Replies: 0
Views: 1892

skepticism 101: how to think like a scientist

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/tgc/courses/course_detail.aspx?cid=9388 this is well worth the investment. listen and learn while you ride in your car. Prof. Michael Shermer mentions Ramtha as the force behind the What the Bleep film in his criticism of new age quantum nonsense in lecture 4 or 5?? he...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:33 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs David McCarthy US lawsuit
Replies: 29
Views: 6042

Re: David McCarthy EMF SLAPP motion against JZK

David, Yes I may have said it is not the words that count in the end, but the behavior in real life. A corollary is it is not the expressed beliefs but the behavior in cults that matter. This applies to mental status exams in psychiatry which is commonly called "behavioral medicine." I vaguely recal...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:40 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: we are martians
Replies: 0
Views: 1857

we are martians

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/08/did-life-come-to-earth-from-mars/?utm_source=smithsoniantopic&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20130831-Weekender If the phenomena of Star Trek, Area 51, Ancient Aliens, or War of the Worlds can be taken as anthropological clues, humanity is consumed with...
by joe sz
Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:05 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs David McCarthy US lawsuit
Replies: 29
Views: 6042

Re: David McCarthy EMF SLAPP motion against JZK

thnks Robair, David, and Cedar.. as i have reminded others, I have worked for the past 15 years in a psych hospital intake dept meeting patients when they are at their worst..these chat rooms of ex-members are very tame by comparison when considering all the names I've been called [everything from n...
by joe sz
Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:47 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZ Knight vs David McCarthy US lawsuit
Replies: 29
Views: 6042

Re: David McCarthy EMF SLAPP motion against JZK

It appears I have been banned or removed from EE as of a couple of weeks ago. Unless I missed something, I have no idea why. I am not asking. I do not regard this as "abuse" but I do see it as unfortunate and perhaps misguided by a myopic intellect. Yes, I am a bit irritated by it, but I am also rel...
by joe sz
Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:04 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: quote of the day
Replies: 0
Views: 1900

quote of the day

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes_of_the_ ... of_the_day

“Am I alive and a reality, or am I but a dream?”

Edgar Rice Burroughs (author of Tarzan)
by joe sz
Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:33 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Officials Investigations
Replies: 2
Views: 1605

Re: Officials Investigations

What needs to happen is a national news service doing a good story on Ramtha to trump the local timidity.

But JZ and Ramtha are old old news on a large scale--it is an aging cult in its denouement phase. This does not mean that something terrible might not happen to attract attention again.
by joe sz
Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:48 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: TACO
Replies: 1
Views: 1366

TACO

this is not about food :lol: T.A.C.O.s Anyone? August 10, 2013 By Roger E. Olson Patheos (blog) For 17 years I taught a course on America’s Cults and New Religions on the college level (and occasionally on the seminary level, too). I promoted the elective course to the student population as “Unsafe ...
by joe sz
Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:19 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Corporate Cults: The Insidious Lure of the All-Consuming Org
Replies: 1
Views: 1138

Re: Corporate Cults: The Insidious Lure of the All-Consuming

Thanks, David. the article does not mention names, but i recall an insurance company, R L Williams in the 1970s that ran like a cult. I imagine the author would list Amway and most MLM businesses that emphasize team and intensive workshops as part of the "culture" and the way to get rich. There is o...
by joe sz
Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:39 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Susan Joy Rennison - Spiritual Evolution in the Cultic Milie
Replies: 2
Views: 3726

Re: Susan Joy Rennison - Spiritual Evolution in the Cultic M

The essay was ok by Rennison, and I agree, she is one of those who yet wants resolution for her mystic impulses, walks with some "conviction" but I find her protest: I am not a New Ager a tad shallow. here is a clip from one of her reviews of a typical New Age channeled book: http://www.susanrenniso...
by joe sz
Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:17 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Susan Joy Rennison - Spiritual Evolution in the Cultic Milie
Replies: 2
Views: 3726

Re: Susan Joy Rennison - Spiritual Evolution in the Cultic M

good essay, david. here's a series to complement it: Paganism, part 1: what is modern paganism? The majority of pagans these days do not dwell in the country, but a yearning towards nature is marked Liz Williams theguardian.com, Monday 15 July 2013 According to the recent census, there are around 80...
by joe sz
Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:33 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: irs religion Scientology Lawrence Wollersheim FactNet
Replies: 1
Views: 1182

irs religion Scientology Lawrence Wollersheim FactNet

Did Scientology Critic Get Turned Down By IRS For Church Status? Forbes Peter J Reilly , Contributor I focus on the tax issues of individuals, businesses & more 8/02/2013 The IRS has refused to grant church status to an unnamed organization that focuses on “open source spirituality. My request for c...
by joe sz
Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: MEA MAXIMA CULPA
Replies: 0
Views: 1951

MEA MAXIMA CULPA

http://viooz.co/movies/15909-mea-maxima ... -2012.html

Alex Gibney explores the charged issue of pedophilia in the Catholic Church, following a trail from the first known protest against clerical sexual abuse in the United States and all the way to the Vatican.
by joe sz
Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:15 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: ramtha not a god according to hindu scripture
Replies: 4
Views: 2761

ramtha not a god according to hindu scripture

JZ has spewed out her crude tale that the hacking warrior Ramtha is somehow related to the Ram or God in Hindu scripture and Atlantean Lemurian myth. Ancient Vedic scripture spells out the qualilties of a "God": compare http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/general-religious-discussions/57508-64-qualiti...
by joe sz
Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:08 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Internet & Scientology
Replies: 0
Views: 1966

Internet & Scientology

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23273109 16 July 2013 How Scientology changed the internet By Dave Lee Technology reporter, BBC News What do Wikipedia, Wikileaks, Anonymous and copyright law have in common? The answer is they have all been influenced by the Church of Scientology International (...
by joe sz
Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:13 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Wondering if anyone had heard this?
Replies: 14
Views: 2143

Re: Wondering if anyone had heard this?

sequitor this idea of blame the victim or karmic retribution is nothing new. every religion has notions of it because all human beings need an explanation for disaster and want to power to avert it. Sodom and Gomorrah deserved to be obliterated by God! Fatalism in Islam and Hinduism is well-document...
by joe sz
Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:00 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

LiS I see where you are coming from. i have a shelf or two full of books on Native spirituality and cultures that I actually read and notated...many many years ago. I think you and I are divided or at least biased in some way.. I have an allergic reaction to New Age spin on anything, even aboriginal...
by joe sz
Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:48 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: reality is..
Replies: 0
Views: 1926

reality is..

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/787.html

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

Philip K. Dick, "How to Build a Universe That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later", 1978
US science fiction author (1928 - 1982)
by joe sz
Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:46 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Lawsuit: JZK Inc vs Virginia Coverdale
Replies: 21
Views: 5678

Re: Lawsuit: Virginia Coverdale vs JZK Inc

no matter which "side" won, this would go to appeals, so it may be better this way as Breckan has specific violations of law by this imo "lazy" judge for the appelate court to consider. Other lawyers are following this case. Tabor seemed to go with the idea that "you signed it, so you live with it" ...
by joe sz
Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:56 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Lawsuit: JZK Inc vs Virginia Coverdale
Replies: 21
Views: 5678

Re: Lawsuit: Virginia Coverdale vs JZK Inc

http://www.yelmonline.com/news/local_news/article_d686b88a-e022-11e2-a481-0019bb2963f4.html Steven Wyble news3@yelmonline.com YelmOnline.com | 0 comments A judge ruled in favor of JZK, Inc.'s lawsuit against former Ramtha School of Enlightenment student Virginia Coverdale Friday morning. The case wi...
by joe sz
Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:32 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

AGAIN what do think you are talking about? 10,000 years of "tradition?" Are you deriving your information from a Clovis spear point and some pottery bits? the articles point out that language, whether it is since the 1970s or 100,000 BCE does change identification and who we and others think we are....
by joe sz
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:29 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

PS: this is an important concept for anyone in recovery from harmful cults. Lifton and others have noted how language effects the behavior and brain in thought reform systems like RSE. loaded language is hard to undo after the cult--it takes work to relearn how to process words appropriately again. ...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:15 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

ok..good discussion consider this to support what I said: Language and culture - these seemingly different conceptions are closely interrelated to each other. Language is the mirror of culture, as it reflects not only real world around us, not only real life conditions, events, and experiences, but ...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:31 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

LiS excuse my abrupt reply...my longer one vanished :shock: what I was trying to relate is more about the over-idealization by the New Age community and other 'ecology-minded' folk of how earth and spirit friendly the mythic native American is. I say mythic because there were over 400 native dialect...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:21 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: silva method/mind control
Replies: 0
Views: 2834

silva method/mind control

Jose Silva's ideas launched or inspired any number of cults and New Age fads incl inspiring L R Hubbard, who Silva claims 'ripped him off.' MONDAY, JUN 24, 2013 Mind control summer camp Mom wanted me to learn about positive thinking. But I got a timeless lesson in the thrill of self-help fads Salon ...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:47 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

Do you speak ancient Hebrew or Aramaic, Joe?
no
by joe sz
Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:33 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: aimee semple mcpherson
Replies: 0
Views: 2262

aimee semple mcpherson

The Incredible Disappearing Evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson. Photo: Library of Congress Along the Los Angeles beach between Venice and Ocean Park, a small group of mourners wandered aimlessly, occasionally dropping to the sand to pray—unable to stop their tears. “Aimee is with Jesus; pray for her...
by joe sz
Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:53 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

you lost me here: It may also be true that for some non-natives this tradition speaks to them in a way that ordinary religions in the western world don't, and they have spent years learning it, steeping themselves in it, and living it. do you have any non-native Indian person in mind as an example? ...
by joe sz
Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:30 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: ramtha and gay culture
Replies: 8
Views: 2325

ramtha and gay culture

jz could learn something from this anti-gay group that finally disbanded :idea: After 37 Years of Trying to Change People’s Sexual Orientation, Group Is to Disband New York Times, June 20, 2013 By Ian Lovett IRVINE, Calif. — For 37 years, Exodus International was the leading beacon of the “ex gay” m...
by joe sz
Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:11 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

Re: nuage shaman frauds

agree? no. of course the 'writer' comes off crass, bigoted, and angry. on the other hand the nuage lady is apparently kind and sweet and understanding, even thankful that the site is only "archiving" her and not calling her an outright fraud. But look below the surface. Native Americans I've known w...
by joe sz
Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:15 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: nuage shaman frauds
Replies: 18
Views: 3675

nuage shaman frauds

I came across this site again. It basically challenges and exposes fake shamans that abuse Native heritage. http://www.newagefraud.org/ this conversation re a "nuage" white woman tryng to defend her 'new thought' and yogananda background is good http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3799.15...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:55 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Where is Ramtha from?
Replies: 9
Views: 2216

Re: Where is Ramtha from?

this question of the continuation of a channeled spirit, say, Morya who was introduced via Madame Blavatsky around 1870s, then channeled by W Q Judge and C W Leadbeater and a few others concurrently after HPB died in 1891, then taken up famously by Helena Roerich who channeled "M" in the early 20s o...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:08 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Where is Ramtha from?
Replies: 9
Views: 2216

Re: Where is Ramtha from?

good skeptical thread. JZ has been able to prove only one thing re Ramtha's origin. Ramtha is a product of her brain whether a result of delusion, imagination, or possession. This ramtha will totally disappear when JZ's brain dysfunctions or dies just as all those 36 'entities' or ascended masters u...
by joe sz
Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:09 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!
Replies: 7
Views: 3168

Re: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!

seriously et al.... you may have seen this review I posted not long ago, but here it is again: http://www.amazon.com/review/R2FB5GTRGHNRZS/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2FB5GTRGHNRZS Ramtha Hokey Pokey, May 31, 2013 By J. SzimhartThis review is from: Last Waltz of the Tyrants: The Prophecy (Paperback) The b...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:35 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!
Replies: 7
Views: 3168

Re: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!

So here is the question for Mike Wright: Murder in societies worldwide throughout history is basically forbidden by rule of law for obvious reasons, one being the taking away the fundamental right to life of an innocent. This is why in ancient Greek medicine abortion was banned as well. If JZ/R can ...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:06 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!
Replies: 7
Views: 3168

Re: JZ Ramtha: even murder is not wrong or evil!!

Thanks for posting this old Ramtha White Book chestnut: murder is not wrong or evil. that is correct. More than anything it proves how stupid and inept a philosopher JZ is. I looked at the amazon ratings again for the white book readers. out of 65 reviews, 53 gave the WB a five-star rating. Anyone w...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:21 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: breatharian in seattle
Replies: 4
Views: 1445

Re: breatharian in seattle

I knew a Benedictine monk in New Mexico who fasted for 52 days under the supervision of his abbot. I visited with him when he was around 40 days into it...I think he did drink some watery juices...when his skin started tuning scaly 9keytotis0 the abbot told him to stop. he had a physical and recover...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:55 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: breatharian in seattle
Replies: 4
Views: 1445

breatharian in seattle

there was (is) a small Breatharian cult in Australia--one person died, the leader cheated, as I recall. Seattle woman attempts to live on sunlight, water Q13FOX.com 5/6/2013 by Brett Cihon Digital Producer SEATTLE — A few rare plants can live on exclusively sunlight, water and air. But a human? One ...
by joe sz
Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:05 pm
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: how to test paranormal
Replies: 7
Views: 2735

Re: how to test paranormal

good perspective, Seriously. so true. hypothetically, if Ramtha is "real", it changes nothing. Ramtha's only power is the power of manipulation through deception, the same as JZ's power. If Ramtha is some kind of low order spirit or jinn that inhabits JZ's brain, then JZ is a victim as well, victimi...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:44 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: After Earth film ripped
Replies: 5
Views: 1549

Re: After Earth film ripped

LiS the legend is that Hubbard invented Co$ on a bet but the history says something else. Hubbard was deeply invested in the occult early with a rocket scientist guy named John Whiteside Parsons who was into Aleister Crowley stuff and the Order of the Golden Dawn. Crowley channeled his infamous "Boo...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:56 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: After Earth film ripped
Replies: 5
Views: 1549

Re: After Earth film ripped

Hubbard was a "success" in the pulp fiction market, but a second rate success for the uneven, sometimes confusing quality of his prolific writing, which is most likely why he turned to psychology [dianetics] and religion [Co$] to make his fortune. That Hubbard was by habit a hasty and careless write...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:17 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: After Earth film ripped
Replies: 5
Views: 1549

After Earth film ripped

Is Scientology unwatchable? Religion News Service David Gibson | Jun 3, 2013 The news is not good for the new movie “After Earth,” which means the news is not good for Sony Pictures, or Will Smith … or, it seems, Scientology, whose sci-fi inflected religious system inspired what was to be a summer b...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:24 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

Re: judi pope koteen?

the LIST goes on. No psychic including JZ predicted the 9-11-2001 attack on the Twin Towers. No psychic incl JZ at 1989 predicted the Facebook/Twitter technology that has changed the human race--the Arab Spring was greatly augmented by new social media. JZ/R did not predict the collapse of the Arabi...
by joe sz
Fri May 31, 2013 8:55 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

Re: judi pope koteen? Last Waltz of Tyrants

I reviewed the Last Waltz book here: http://www.amazon.com/Last-Waltz-Tyrants-The-Prophecy/product-reviews/0941831264/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_pop_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0 1.0 out of 5 stars Ramtha Hokey Pokey, May 31, 2013 By J. Szimhart (Birdsboro, PA USA) - See all my revie...
by joe sz
Thu May 30, 2013 9:13 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Sociopaths taught?
Replies: 10
Views: 1936

Re: Sociopaths taught?

this is one of the most difficult concepts to grasp: How do cults and cult leaders manage to control people? What kind of person joins a cult? Both questions are poorly worded thus the answers will be skewed. Better to ask: How does anyone manage to control people? Why do human beings gravitate to g...
by joe sz
Thu May 30, 2013 8:40 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Copenhagen anti-cult conference
Replies: 2
Views: 1447

Re: Copenhagen anti-cult conference

A BRIEF NOTE RE THAT COPENHAGEN CONFERENCE: The FECRIS annual meeting took place in Copenhagen, 30 May 2013. Steve Kent was one of the speakers, talking on: “Freemen, Sovereign Citizens, and the Threat to Public Order in British Heritage Countries.” Eric Brasseur, Director of CIAOSN, Belgium, talked...
by joe sz
Thu May 30, 2013 6:27 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Copenhagen anti-cult conference
Replies: 2
Views: 1447

Copenhagen anti-cult conference

Anti-cult conference planned in Scientology's backyard The Copenhagen Post Peter Stanners May 29, 2013 Family support groups are meeting in Copenhagen on Thursday to discuss how to tackle cults and support the friends and families of individuals affected by controlling groups The Church of Scientolo...
by joe sz
Wed May 29, 2013 7:13 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: The real cost of enlightenment
Replies: 11
Views: 1911

Re: The real cost of enlightenment

brains age differently. neuro-palsies and dementia can hit as early as the 50s with some people, so it is hard to say what is cult and what is brain disease after middle age. One elegant lady I knew well was sharp into her 100th year, then she lost it and could ony speak in Italian, her first langua...
by joe sz
Wed May 29, 2013 8:39 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

Re: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants

so, it appears Judi PK or whatever her name is now is another nutcase new age type on a seeker roll. [sounds like something on a menu :roll: ]

Last Waltz of Tyrants (1989), was it ever officially recognized by JZ & Co?

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Waltz-Tyrant ... 0941831264
by joe sz
Wed May 29, 2013 8:12 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

Re: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants

I found this: Judi Pope Koteen, AKA Judi Pope, AKA Judi Zion, AKA Judi York AKA Judi Sion Transcriber and Editor of Ramtha’s works Last Waltz, Financial Freedom and UFO’s and the Nature of Reality Judi and I lived together on and off for some four years. We had differences of opinions but were joine...
by joe sz
Wed May 29, 2013 7:38 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 8
Views: 3010

judi pope koteen - Last Waltz of the Tyrants

this person edited Last Waltz of the Tyrants, a Ramtha prophecy tome.

who is Judi Pope Koteen? can't find anything on her---is this a nom de plume, fake name?
by joe sz
Tue May 28, 2013 10:33 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: The real cost of enlightenment
Replies: 11
Views: 1911

Re: The real cost of enlightenment

when we interact with the elderly brought to our psych hospital, we are taught to engage them about their past. It works like a charm to get them talking and affords me time to get a handle on how they are functioning at the moment. Older folk engage memories to reclaim what is slipping away. The pr...
by joe sz
Tue May 28, 2013 10:22 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Sociopaths taught?
Replies: 10
Views: 1936

Re: Sociopaths taught?

I call it social contagion. We tend to take on the behaviors and speech of our in-group. Studies of cult and gang members indicate a strong tendency to migrate to a kind of group personality, group style, and group-speak. This is a natural effect of any highly devotional milieu--no one has to "teach...
by joe sz
Tue May 28, 2013 5:58 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: The real cost of enlightenment
Replies: 11
Views: 1911

Re: The real cost of enlightenment

Marie and all, a rule of thumb is to remain neutral with members of family or friends in a cult IF you expect them to turn to you when they feel in doubt somedasy, or IF you intend to attempt an intervention. This 'neutrality' is actually a form of hypocrisy fro most people. At some point, the hypoc...
by joe sz
Tue May 21, 2013 9:27 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: VITRIOL
Replies: 20
Views: 3436

Re: VITRIOL

the old religions have dealt with this problem through their myths and ethical codes. The Bhagavad Gita teaches that one must do one's duty, even if it means killing cousins in war, and leave the rest to Krisna [God]. Only God can make the final judgement and will make that final judgement more prec...
by joe sz
Tue May 21, 2013 5:26 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: VITRIOL
Replies: 20
Views: 3436

Re: VITRIOL

Forgiveness, isn't even in my vocabulary at this time for her!!!
JZ has done NOTHING to deserve your forgiveness or mine or anyone's. She does not believe in saying "sorry." she will only do the right thing when forced to by the law.

I would not trust her to watch my pet toad [if I had one].
by joe sz
Mon May 20, 2013 2:17 pm
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: Paging Dr. Stupid
Replies: 12
Views: 2911

Re: Paging Dr. Stupid

the constricted theater inside most cults like RSE is so confusing and pretentious that cult members will grasp at anything to give them direction, even doktur grrrrregg's lame advice, that feeds the mindset, that makes them feel more secure. When any of you were in RSE, unless you were a total blis...
by joe sz
Thu May 16, 2013 9:16 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: enter enlightenmefree I get a pop up for a porn site.
Replies: 8
Views: 2009

Re: enter enlightenmefree I get a pop up for a porn site.

this stupid porn site popped up again
78be505acd0e9e10.100girlsfree.

these must be someway to stop it....anti-porn geek wanted :!:
by joe sz
Wed May 15, 2013 7:15 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: enter enlightenmefree I get a pop up for a porn site.
Replies: 8
Views: 2009

Re: enter enlightenmefree I get a pop up for a porn site.

this happened to me on another computer w virus software. at work the anti-virus software blocks the "porn" site altogether and I have to 'go back' and then the emf site comes up ok. my mac notebook and my old Dell pc has no problem with this.
by joe sz
Tue May 14, 2013 7:48 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: VITRIOL
Replies: 20
Views: 3436

Re: VITRIOL

shocked it is a relief to not have to think about "the cult" anymore on a daily basis, or when I do, it is practically an academic exercise. later today after I get home from work I have to decide whether to put our dog down. she's been struggling through renal failure for 3 months and my wife think...
by joe sz
Mon May 13, 2013 1:07 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: VITRIOL
Replies: 20
Views: 3436

VITRIOL

This is a moderated forum. Post using maturity and respect toward others, in particular when you don't agree. We're all entitled to our viewpoints, and posting our viewpoints. However, be sure you disagree with issues, instead of attacking people. Vitriol toward ANY group or individual is uncalled ...
by joe sz
Sun May 12, 2013 9:57 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN what the heck this crazy woman (JZK) was talking about?
Replies: 20
Views: 3056

Re: NVM

I agree w above also. Steve Klein may be in cahoots with JZ to save his own ass after investing so heavily in Ramthaism. He has everything to lose as JZ dwindles in scope and effect, as she fades into the obscurity of failure. Oh, sure there will be a core of ungruntled believers here and there but ...
by joe sz
Sat May 11, 2013 10:51 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: religion breakdown in Canada
Replies: 8
Views: 1850

Re: religion breakdown in Canada

Most new age people tend to be "liberal" in politics [except my old cult of CUT: Elizabeth Clare Prophet was in the "right wing camp" even moreso than JZ who is a mixed bag of right wing anti-government survivalist subculture and left wing 'let's have a party and get stoned for enlightenment" cult. ...
by joe sz
Sat May 11, 2013 9:35 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: religion breakdown in Canada
Replies: 8
Views: 1850

Re: religion breakdown in Canada

masons in america and europe are more like private clubs than secret societies. ex-masons have given me all the "secret" literature in the past. I lectured at a masonic hall about cults in front of masons once, and then one of them asked me to join :roll: If you live in N Korea, then you need a secr...
by joe sz
Sat May 11, 2013 8:22 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZK vs D McCarthy US lawsuit Dismissed w Prejudice
Replies: 17
Views: 2684

Re: David McCarthy EMF SLAPP motion against JZK

WITH PREJUDICE is how the lawsuit ended after two sessions in court in front of a judge for me and 16 ex-members in Houston in 1992. We were sued by Chung Moo Doe martial arts 'cult' after i gave a private worskshop for the ex-members. I understood with prejudice to mean that there is a small window...
by joe sz
Fri May 10, 2013 7:17 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: religion breakdown in Canada
Replies: 8
Views: 1850

Re: religion breakdown in Canada

good point. this is why the 'orthodox' hold so strongly to tradition in any religion. At some point, a liberal mind tends to tolerate anything except intolerance of their liberal pov. The challenge is to maintain a relgious identity while remaining sane and civil to those inside and outside the beli...
by joe sz
Thu May 09, 2013 7:01 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: religion breakdown in Canada
Replies: 8
Views: 1850

religion breakdown in Canada

Religion in Canada, a breakdown The Force is no longer strong The number of Canadians who identify themselves as Jedi has dropped so dramatically since 2001 that the figure is too small to be statistically relevant. According to Statistics Canada, the downward trend in those wise in the ways of the ...
by joe sz
Tue May 07, 2013 8:36 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZ Rambling
Replies: 5
Views: 1900

Re: JZ Rambling

They built businesses, homes, enrolled their children in local schools, and in all was a boom to the local economy. To the “locals” and the small political machine active here, we were the “Mexicans comin’ to town.” Church Universal n Triumphant/Gardiner, MT http://www.islandparknews.com/obit.php?s...
by joe sz
Sat May 04, 2013 6:19 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: how to test paranormal
Replies: 7
Views: 2735

Re: how to test paranormal

D, that is what Prof Ben Zablocki calls an "exit cost", ie, one cost of exiting a cult that encourages belief in and development of psychic powers is that those same beliefs will come back and bite you when you contemplate leaving the cult. Works like a charm. Nearly every cult leader manages to ins...

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