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Hello UK Girl :-) Thanks for sharing the story about your conversation with Bruce Lipton, I find it very enlightening discovering where JZ gets her info from. I too like Bruce Lipton's work & have been to a few of his workshops. When my husband was sick he was very helpful to me. When I admitted...

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Hi Mitchell Thanks for sharing. I really look forward to hearing more from you in the future if it feels right :-) After that event it was as if the spell had been broken. Suddenly I could hear the stupidity, could see the misleading and abuse (yes I think we can call it that) of hours of ranting, p...

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Touche

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Thanks Ponysong :-) Yes I agree she is a showman. She loves the "power music". Here's another track that used to be played repeatedly E S Posthumus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ida3NWy6AyI I've also heard RSE play Lou Reed's "Waiting for the Man" while everyone's waiting for Ra...

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Ramtha told us at a wine ceremony that Jesus (aka Jeshua Ben Joseph as Ramtha calls him) was a drunk, he had to be ...... he was dealing with ignorant people all the time (or words to that effect). If your goal was to ascend/reach enlightenment then hearing this from the enlightened master would enc...

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Yes thanks Joe, I can see how you'd have to keep your sense of humour - I just can't get that fur lined shoe visual out of my mind

Luckily you're there to help these poor people

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Yikes!! What a blast from the past, I could feel myself getting excited at the 49 sec's..

I can almost see the doors open & hear the warrior roar YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! and all of us roaring back YYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

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Wow, it sounds like they are talking about RSE specifically. I really didn't know what a cult was when I was in RSE.

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I tried to get away with juice at my first wine ceremony cause I didn't feel like wine, I soon found out that was a big no no. Ramtha verbally abused us non-drinkers, everyone looked at us like we were losers so I fell into social-consciousness :mrgreen: and quickly bought a bottle of wine from a st...

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Hello Everyone - I’ve really enjoyed reading your posts :D Ockham, It’s amazing how that drunken drivel can sound like pure gold when you’re drunk as a skunk. Ramtha insists everyone skull the mandatory glasses of red wine, he/she insists you check your neighbour/partners glass has been filled compl...

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Hello Virginia I am in awe of your courage and dignity for sharing the true account of your horrific experience with JZ Knight. I was helped greatly too by reading others experiences when I was having severe doubts, I am so grateful to you (as this cannot have been easy). Please know you will be hel...

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http://www.stanrosen.com/agentbio.asp?Agent=26460 Here's a recent bio for Sherrill MacNaughton - a student who featured in the 20/20 video who was pro-Ramtha, according to the video she left her multi-millionaire husband in Hawaii to move to Washington with her new boyfriend to follow Ramtha. It now...

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Thanks for posting, I've been looking for this interview for years. I know what you mean ex, I still find it embarrassing to know I got suckered for 3 years starting in 2006 right after What the Bleep, especially when this scam had been going for years. I hated seeing those followers in the vid look...

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Thank you Mr Graciasmuchas for posting on Utube & Vanilla for posting here. I sent this to a 20 yr student who has recently seen the light & he said "quote "its outrageous, I can't believe how deeply I was into that crap" I found this old bravenet thread about Seabiscuit. I wo...

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Thanks for this latest bit of news Vanilla. It doesn't surprise me at all. Yes, why didn't Ramtha know people were mapping cards?? After all, isn't he supposed to be the "all knowing" Hierophant?? It reminds me of the time when Ramtha named Hal "Master of the Tank". At an event H...

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According to Ramtha, the reason these advanced beings were impregnating the lowly human race was because they (supposedly a brilliant, intellectual race) had bred out emotions, and they wanted emotions back. :roll: Here's just another contradiction because all the disciplines at RSE are to assist st...

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Thank you for your post Indigo. It is very interesting hearing insight from a student from the early days in the school. I remember my shock viewing JZ as Ramtha on the Merv Griffin show on YouTube for the first time in 2009. I had been in the school for 3 years at that stage. The Ramtha on that sho...

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Hi Ex
Yes definitely some smart people out there. There's quite a few topics on Ramtha on this site too. Just enter Ramtha in search field.

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Hi Vanilla, I'm great thanks I only saw the youtube video, but that was enough to see how plastered she was. I found it quite sad to see how she has deteriorated, but the upside is her recent crazy behaviour & predictions appears to be causing some people to wake up, so that can only be good new...

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If you fastforward to the end of the video, you can see the red wine stains in the corners of her mouth

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All I can say is JZ must really be losing it, big time. The latest youtube "solidarity" video was a dead give away.

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Dear Sceptic I am so glad you found this site. I am heart broken hearing your story, unfortunately it is not an uncommon story. The behaviour your mother is displaying is definitely behaviour shes learned through the school. RSE teaches that emotions are limiting, to become enlightened is an "a...

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Lets not forget JZ herself was Joan of Arc and Lilly Langtry

and Mitja (according to JZR) is the direct bloodline of Christ ..... Gosh, so many special people

Quote:
Even Jz's dog, used to be Sea Biscuit

I agree, that's just too funny

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I remember being on the field doing field work, blindfolded & hearing a military helicopter hovering above us. The general consensus from students was .... the military is watching us, they don't like change, they're worried about what we're learning in the school, you know becoming powerful &am...

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Every prediction Ramtha has ever made over the past 30 years has come to pass What planet do you live on???????? Just off the top of my head here's a few that come to mind. I attended a Q & E in 2007 with Ramtha, we were told that: in Fall 2008 the earth would experience a runner that would aff...

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The solidarity youtube video reminded me of my last time at RSE - at a Blue College wine ceremony. You know it really doesn't matter what Ramtha is rambling about, the followers will all go along with it, it wasn't that long ago that I was one of them :oops: . I actually felt sorry for JZ watching t...

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Here's a clip taken from the Edgar Cayce site http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/media_center.aspx As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twin...

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Here is an article I found written by a Ramster warning the masses re. Ramtha's latest predictions " This information was sent to me a little while ago by someone I know who is of good character. I'm not sending this to frighten anyone but just to inform. Now we all know we are in the time of ...

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http://twitter.com/RamthasSchool/status/54272349679271936 RAMTHA URGES HIS STUDENTS TO IMMEDIATELY EVACUATE JAPAN AND PACIFIC RIM ISLANDS On March 31, 2011, during the Yelm Primary Retreat, Ramtha delivered a special emergency announcement to the largest group ever assembled for a live Ramtha teachi...

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Hi Oil I'm not sure what was said in the Xmas streaming, though it wouldn't surprise me if JZR has changed her tune & is back to saying the US will be the only safe place in the "loooong awaited days to come" Here's the latest RSE marketing attempt using fear of the future to drag more...

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Hi EMP Great to hear from you & thanks for the update. It's good to hear the mother-in-law has moved out - good for you. A good thing is that I'm getting back to myself. I've spoken to friends and let them into what's been happening and am getting support from them. I've had to deal with a lot o...

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Hello freemymind, Just as a side note I remember at my beginners retreat sitting next to a woman (beginner too) who read through almost a whole pack of cards and it was her first attempt. Yes, we human beings can do extraordinary things at times, and I have personally met some of the ?Master of Card...

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I noticed him cringe now & again when I'd go outside to do my neighbourhood walk, particularly when I was in my cloak

or when I'd do the "So be it" arm movement whilst watching a Ramtha DVD

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Hello Enlightenmypocket (great name!) Thanks for sharing your experience ? it was a great eye-opener for me to see how things may have been for my non-Ramster husband for the 3 yr period I was in school. I will ask him to read your story. You hit the nail on the head in so many instances ? the schoo...

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?I think that what we have in JZ is a very extraordinary example of . . . what we would call a multiple personality phenomenon ," Melton said in an interview He believes Ramtha represents a chunk of Knight's buried memories and experiences that has become a secondary identity. He thinks Knight...

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I think telling fibs is one of JZR's specialties

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Hi Everyone As I Recall It, thanks for sharing your experiences, I enjoy reading other's experiences through RSE, particularly what "red flags" woke people up. Interesting to hear that the big guy didn't appear to you - someone recently shared a story here on EMF that when a student died i...

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Hi Everyone I noticed this old tape on the archived link Cat listed above: History of Cursing This set is a powerful lesson on the dramatic consequences of our casual speech. Ramtha describes the effect common profanities have on our bodies - - our teeth, breath, glands and organs. #011 - 2 tapes $1...

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I'm not sure if this article has been posted before, but I found it very interesting. The writer mentions his experience at RSE ... http://www.etresoi.ch/Denis/trance.html Inducing Trance With Vibrational Sound I could relate many stories that support subliminal programming, but I'd rather make you ...

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Hello ExOmAkad I am a recent ex-Ramster. For 3 years I was completely convinced that Ramtha was an ascended master channeling through JZ until I attended an event earlier this year and witnessed disturbing irrational behavior from Ramtha Every time Ramtha appeared we had a wine ceremony, but on seve...

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In that event, JZ as Ramtha was paranoid about the government listening in, and confiscating food and water of Ramsters as a new form of terrorism. Ramtha had ordered the video recording of the event to be temporarily ceased so that the government could not tune in, as he had important advice for t...

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aaaah, thankyou Unbound : :-) I can relate to everything you have said, infact you have helped me to see things a little more clearly. There was a sense that I was at a fork in the road on many levels and trying to choose which road to take only left me paralysed. I was really quite stuck in trying ...

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ps. if forgot to add "I hope when your mother does exit RSE that she realises how lucky she is to have such a loving, caring daughter."

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Dear Marie Take heart - chances are your mother & sister will soon see the light. Up to a few months ago I was a dedicated student (like many others who write here) I would have studied full time with Ramtha had the opportunity arisen. Fortunately there are so many discrepancies, JZ's behaviour ...

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Beautifully said Unbound. The topic of ?dissociation? is a bit of a stickler for me at the moment, and one I have spend a lot of time contemplating, as dissociation with anything that reminds me of RSE I find I completely & utterly reject even though I realise I am missing out on some of the bea...

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It all so ridiculous.. Here we have JZR agreeing to participate in "scientific tests" to prove she is not faking it, then why the dickens didn't "Ramtha" just appear in front of the panel and be done with it? Why...? I had to comment here because David you picked up on the obvio...

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Hello Compassion It's been a while since I saw the movie Zeitgeist so I looked up their website - the reference is to Income Taxes (sorry) not Property Taxes. If you are interested here's the link http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/wiki/index.php?title=US_Income_Tax As you can imagine this theory has b...

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So here you are again Judith, But.... You cannot take the same road you took back in the early nineties when you lied to me and hundreds of other sincere RSE students, claiming the government 'Gray men" had conspired to shut RSE down with falsifying your tax returns that you owed a fortune in ...

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Hello Compassion

I did my beginners in 2005.

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Hi Everyone Yes me too Ex. When I decided to go to RSE the first time for a beginners retreat, I phoned and spoke with the facilitator of that particular country. I also emailed and asked a number of questions before I paid the $1300 for the retreat. When I arrived at the event I was then handed the...

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What more can we learn about candle focus? I heard that the main discipline of Blue College 2009 was candle focus. The students paid all that money for a discipline they can do at home. " So true, throw in a handful of drunken abusive ramblings from Ramtha and you got it. The whole retreat was...

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Great find Caterpillar - how does she get away with it?

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When I was last in Yelm it was mentioned from one of the teachers that Yelm was the only town that was going ahead in Washington during the recession, and praise had been given to the mayor of Yelm by the locals. There was sarcasm & scorn delivered that of course it had nothing whatsoever to do ...

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RSE also has (according to JZR) the direct bloodline of Christ in school.:roll: I remember hearing Greg Simmons (pretty sure it was www.beyondtheordinary.net) making a comment (something along the lines) that it was Ramtha?s suggestion to Jesus that he allow the crucifixion as the ultimate initiatio...

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According to www.wiki.answers.com Australia is 1378 miles or 2218 kilometres from New Zealand (1198 nautical miles). Surely it's a little premature to be parading "yet another successful prediction" from Ramtha on the newsletter due to an earthquake causing the southern tip of New Zealand ...

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Hi Everyone

Thanks for your comments. My husband has asked me to pass on his thanks to EMF - he says he has his wife back again, and is overjoyed that we can now make sane choices for our future instead of preparing for dtc madness. Blessings to you all.

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Hi Caterpillar Thanks for posting this info. I feel like a complete idiot, as I bought the RSE ?Scientific Study? marketing bunk ?hook line & sinker?. It was a major reason why I joined RSE in the first place. I particularly enjoyed the James Randi/Carlos videos ? they were hilarious! That parlo...

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Hi Ex ? thanks for your comment. I re-read my post and fear my comment [ today it?s so much more sophisticated with quantum physics & all. ] may be interpreted as being haughty :oops: This was not my intent, it was meant as ?tongue in cheek/eye rolling sarcasm? ;-) as I see this is the image the...

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I wish to express my gratitude to everyone who?s shared their personal journey through RSE on this forum ? you have helped me immensely, and inspired me to share some of my Red Flag experiences in the hope that it may help someone at some stage too. I?ve been current in school for 3 years, I joined ...

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Thanks for your welcome California Dreamin' Yes, you are correct ? I am still current although I will not be returning to RSE. Up until a few months ago I was a very dedicated student, loved the teacher, the school etc, but after the last event I realized something was not right, so I allowed myself...

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Hi, thanks for posting this info. I've been in school 3 years & have recently found your forum. I never knew JZ supposedly channelled Jesus, (this is a huge red flag for me) nor had I heard anything about the lizard people or the light teachings. Funny how all the embarrassing teachings from the...

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