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by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:14 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

David, You have just clarified why i ask you to post the pm of posting rules i received from you. Because not only are you bias and critical of me in a way you would never be to the guys, they wouldn't tolerate it. But you are guilty of the very things you say RSE is. Brainwashing and abusive. EMF i...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:21 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

I am sure i have posted on seeing the news paper article pinned on wall in corridor to bathrooms. And it didn't set well with me at all. Because i was hearing two different stories/things.

1, Ramtha's love for us and his mission to teach us.

2. JZ being exalted as a successful business woman.
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:10 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Whoa David. I reread your questions for clarification. unless i misread/misunderstood ...when have i EVER said there isn't brainwashing? My stance has been that at first there's an inner voice/alarm. And at THAT point people have a choice to listen-or not. If they consistently dismiss it ....they ar...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:02 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

This is something that might help clarify. What i saw reminded me of a litter of puppies all crawling over each other to get to the milk. Ramtha. It's crude. But accurate. And it's what confused me-greatly at that time. Because it's contradictory to "God within" and "you are gods". So why is everyon...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:50 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

I am not sure i understand the question you are asking about the teachings being/not being abusive. The events i attended no one was beat on-beat up by Ramtha. (i am using words that identify) It was NOT like that. I heard things but it was always second hand-rumor. :roll: and something that was all...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:55 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

David,

I ask you to post it because i couldn't agree more.

Thank You :-)
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:35 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Students had a relationship with Ramtha i didn't have. Or understand. Ramtha seemed to be what was important to them. I am trying hard to find the right words to paint a picture . Example. I didn't see or hear students celebrate something in their life or them self they had conquered. At that time a...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:49 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

David, I just read a pm from you. For the sake of discussion i am asking you to post it please on this thread. discussion. In response to the questions in that pm. I was in Yelm only months. Because i couldn't handle the lack of character and dog eat dog of RSE community. I wasn't there to party.If ...
by forever
Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:16 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey, First question: Do you mind if i address you as Journey rather than full EMF name? Your rules are reasonable and acceptable to me. My Rules. 1. Please do not talk down to me. 2. When you don't agree with something i say please don't assume and proceed from a position that i am automatically...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:22 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey,

I am asking you a question. What is your interest-intent in a dialogue? Is it because you are honestly interested in something i have said or is it because you think i need to have my thinking corrected? Straightened out?
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:15 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

If people want to consult with others on what they should or should not think-it's their business. How a person lives their life-is their business. I have thrown out things to people coming out of betrayal, deception. That have "given their power away" (RSE speak but at least a mutual point of refer...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:16 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey, Ockham, spectators and anyone watching this :D Brainwashing to ME is when something someone knows something to be real and is told it it isn't. Isn't real. That they are somehow mistaken in their comprehension. And then their "reality" is replaced with something else. I have been attacked (...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:38 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

There is no one size fits all. In reference to black/white vs shades. As a matter of fact isn't that what contention is all about on planet earth? People not respecting/allowing others to think/believe differently? Who and what sets the standard for the right or wrong way to think or believe? A pers...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:14 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

I need to clarify the doctor was a female. It was a friendship.
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:04 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey,

You made the the statement that
without inclusion.....
:?:

I responded with inclusion. :-)



P.S. I read the word nefarious some place. You are saying i am wicked?
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:31 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey, The difference between unfaithful and faithful (to ones self) is conformity. In other words go along to get along? With someone or something because it's acceptable to the majority???? Or to avoid friction? There's a LOT of misconceptions coming from assumptions. From people having differen...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:15 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey, I agree, you did not ask questions. You launched an attack and made accusations. Made statements. Without knowing from what i speak? Is that kind or fair? Do you assume that because you have confidence and experience and can handle yourself in a given situation that others, more specificall...
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:29 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey,

I am not the only one with condensed posts :-)

Where did i say that ultimately
i am the only one i can trust?
by forever
Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:03 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

I will investigate thoroughly. Considering the source is a responsibility and necessary in terms of accuracy and reliable information. :-)
by forever
Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:02 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey,
Everything is energy and that's all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.

-Albert Einstein
Is this what you mean by
pseudo science?
:?:
by forever
Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:59 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey,

Dictionary.com
2. To be unfaithful in guarding, maintaining or fulfilling...
exactly as i used and meant it. :-)
by forever
Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:03 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Journey, Appreciate the input. Had to read it several times to understand and not sure i do. What is apparent though is different points of reference always creates questions and/or misunderstandings. However, questions are healthy and i will respond. Actually, i did forget about "all eggs in one ba...
by forever
Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:40 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Replies: 12
Views: 2642

Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion

Anne Marie was married to Robert Prescott, Flying Tigers. JZ had had some big time connections. I recall Anne Marie from dialogue video and recall JZ saying Anne was her "best friend". However, it seems to me i read something about Anne Marie siding with Jeff Knight? And that she left RSE for some y...
by forever
Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:05 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Replies: 12
Views: 2642

Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion

Ockham,

JZ was living in a mobile home? Wasn't she married to a dentist at the time?
Do you know how she met Annmarie ?

What do you mean 3 different dates?

I do not believe for a minute any "enlightened" being would be part of any type of fraud.
by forever
Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:51 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Replies: 12
Views: 2642

Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion

Not sure this goes here David .

Annmarie Bennstrom in Joe Sz post? Is on YouTube being interviewed by Monique Guild.

Annmarie Bennstrom was in an orphanage from infant to 11-12? years old.
by forever
Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:22 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Replies: 12
Views: 2642

Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion

It's like being in a jury room and going over evidence in an attempt to understand something. Reach a verdict. The first time JZ opened her mouth it was about the difficulty of her life. It was a red flag. The confusion/question is how can she JZ live and be so contrary to the teachings. That's of c...
by forever
Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:26 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!
Replies: 10
Views: 2985

Re: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!

Porn pop up again. I blocked it. Hopefully it's resolved. :evil:
by forever
Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:32 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

I posted about the woman that was shot because i was thinking about the people that made RSE their life. That woman ...her whole life was her family and church. Being a "good" person. How would anyone come to terms with it? Her own kids support the man that...? This isn't a random or misplaced thoug...
by forever
Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:17 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

Forgot to add that the kids refused to believe their father was guilty. Stood by him through the trial. Irrefutable evidence. The woman had been shot in the head. Lost an eye. Husband having affair. Hired hit. And the kids stood by dad-not mom. Go figure? Mom was a christian woman. Kind, caring and ...
by forever
Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:11 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

The entire of RSE (in my day) wasn't about believing in Ramtha. It was about believing in ones own self. Learning how to do things. Uncover and utilize latent capabilities. Learning about "image". The pit falls, snags and snares. It was seeing those very things in JZ that....red flag. The question f...
by forever
Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:46 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Replies: 57
Views: 11158

At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.

At the end of the day we are all responsible for self. There's a difference between blame and personal responsibility-self betrayal. Isn't a matter of blame. Self betrayal is when a person makes the choice to allow them self to be treated in a degrading way. For any reason. Cigarettes don't kill an...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:28 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!
Replies: 10
Views: 2985

Re: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!

After the porn popped up and i quick got rid of it-few hours later my computer let out a shrill beep beep beep that wouldn't stop. There was an ad for Norton-saying a "possible threat" had been detected. And another window with telephone number saying to call immediately. I couldn't close it out. I ...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:33 pm
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2923

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

yep. and how much more energy did we all have 20 years ago? Takes as much energy as it does money to fight. And yes, talk about channeling and a 35,000 year old from Atlantis- :roll: and your mental health records (if any) are subpoenaed. History of plaintiff is always on trial. Burden of proof. And...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:45 am
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2923

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

My thoughts exactly on fund raising. Regarding the illusion of "justice and liberty for all". The sentence wasn't finished. It's justice and liberty for all-that have money. Every institutions first priority is to protect itself. By institution i mean company, corporation. Altruism, honor and integr...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:11 am
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2923

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

When i was in the coma there was mental activity. I was "aware", thinking, processing and "realizing" things in and about myself and my life. What mattered was having another day. another chance at life. I didn't know i had been in a coma. I was on a ventilator and all kinds of things-wires. Opened ...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:57 am
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2923

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

Yes, i have gone through it. I am well aware of the toll it takes. I am less than a year out from my lawsuit. Nightmare? I know. It about did me in. Justice? Ha! On what planet? The name of the game is $$$$$$$$. At a different time i "believed" in good/bad, right/wrong. And thought i knew who the go...
by forever
Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:46 am
Forum: Key NZ and US lawsuits Document Free PDF Downloads
Topic: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 2923

Re: David McCarthy NZ Legal Aid Payments & Debt March 16 20

David,

It looks by all appearance you have a case against the attorney.
by forever
Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:54 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!
Replies: 10
Views: 2985

Re: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!

On first try porn came up. Second try-no porn. Yes, few weeks ago i ran virus search etc. Unfortunately there's unscrupulous people trying to con/scam people out of money by telling them they going to cancel their window license and they will have to buy a new computer unless they pay $65. It happen...
by forever
Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:57 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!
Replies: 10
Views: 2985

Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply!

David,

Porn is coming up on EMF under post reply.
by forever
Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:32 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: Khan Academy
Replies: 1
Views: 1871

Khan Academy

YouTube free. Quantum mechanics by credible source.
by forever
Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:06 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?
Replies: 45
Views: 17299

Re: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?

The amount of Love, Respect, Support and Compassion i receive from others is in direct proportion to how much of the same -i have for myself. I will never let myself down, treat myself like a doormat, or make myself small so others can feel big. P.S. Try it out at home first. Live by this and there ...
by forever
Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:03 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: How can we attack Jz Knight and ignore biblical cult activity.
Replies: 6
Views: 1960

Re: Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post thr

David, I emailed you on this subject presenting these thoughts clearly with no room for misunderstanding. With no thought of Joe at ALL in what i said. How it could be misconstrued....? Nor is it a question of "faith". Is or isn't ancient and current religion based on channeled information? On the s...
by forever
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:46 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: How can we attack Jz Knight and ignore biblical cult activity.
Replies: 6
Views: 1960

Re: Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post thr

Oh No-misunderstanding. I couldn't care less what religion anyone subscribes to. It's their business-not mine. That wasn't aimed at Joe specifically. It's in reference to the basis of EMF -of which i am a part-being unaware that we attack and criticize as fraudulent-we actually practice and believe ...
by forever
Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:54 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: How can we attack Jz Knight and ignore biblical cult activity.
Replies: 6
Views: 1960

How can we attack Jz Knight and ignore biblical cult activity.

I posted this once but for some reason it didn't post. How can we attack someone like Jz Knight as a fraud and greedy power hungry sociopath (true) and ignore biblical cult activity. Also the result of channeled information. On channeled information an army marched upon nations murdering and subduin...
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:57 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post threads
Replies: 1
Views: 1707

Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post threads

David,


Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post threads?

Joe SZ post
Epiphany
All can anyone say

Put all on one so they run together?
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:55 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: an epiphany!
Replies: 4
Views: 1887

Re: an epiphany!

Thank You David,

Channeled information? Is the concept of God based on channeled information using bible as point of reference?
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:47 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: an epiphany!
Replies: 4
Views: 1887

Re: Why was Jesus put to death?

Can we put these posts together. It's an epiphany. Joe posted that cult in Japan, gas attack. What came to mind is the alter incident in OT bible. People acting on orders of leader. At the order of God his leader Abraham? put his son on alter to sacrifice? Your post about your life being threatened ...
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:30 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Joe? How can anyone say it isn't channeled information?[/
Replies: 3
Views: 1749

Re: Who was it in the bible that put their son on an alter-t

I posted this in response to Joe SZ post, part one of two. Because it's what immediately came to mind in terms of cult behavior. Follow the leader. It has also unexpectedly occurred to me that "channeling" is as old as the garden of Eden. From the beginning of time (as we know it) civilization and r...
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:32 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: an epiphany!
Replies: 4
Views: 1887

an epiphany!

David,

Where's your post about the people that threatened your life for criticizing Ramtha? They were dear friends of yours-not passed away?

Why was Jesus put to death?
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:35 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Joe? How can anyone say it isn't channeled information?[/
Replies: 3
Views: 1749

Joe? How can anyone say it isn't channeled information?[/

Who was it in the bible that put their son on an alter-to sacrifice at the alleged instruction of "God"?

What's the origin of circumcision again?

What of all those bloody battles in old testament ordered by "God"?
by forever
Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:03 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: KISS
Replies: 0
Views: 2469

KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid. KISS A concept taught in sales. Not meant to be insulting. Humanity isn't without purpose. Individual/personal responsibility is that each person has to identify and answer the "W" questions. What am i. Why am i here. What's it all about. What's important. Where to from here. ...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:56 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

Thanks Ockham. Not familiar with it. The most confusing thing was that having read White book, listened to tapes years before going, the theme was individuality. But when i got to RSE it isn't what i saw-or heard. It seemed to me people mimicked Ramtha. Even the laugh. Have a conversation and it was...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:13 pm
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Sneeches
Replies: 2
Views: 1722

Re: Sneeches

Thank You. :)
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:42 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: kicking cigarettes
Replies: 0
Views: 2470

kicking cigarettes

Quitting. Have tried before. This time i am going to make it.

On a roll. First Ramtha, now cigarettes and then coffee. Month from now be addiction free. :)

I can do it.
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:40 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

Seriously-

What do mean "bounded choice"?
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:20 pm
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Sneeches
Replies: 2
Views: 1722

Sneeches

It's a cartoon on YouTube. I don't know how to do link? Can someone put here please? It is sooooooo RSE. It's about creatures with a star on belly and others didn't have one. So they were shunned by those that do. In an attempt to be accepted an INC did well. Cartoons are wonderful for peace and lig...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:51 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

Hey Joe, I always thought everyone knew more than me. Doubted myself. It's what makes people vulnerable. I was curious but scared. I didn't follow rules. Wouldn't give up my personal space-boundaries. Got locked out and kicked out. RSE wasn't any fun. You defined it well on being responsible. Childr...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:14 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

Allow me to share this with you please. I wasn't going to post on EMF any more because i do not like conflict and friction. I was done. And then in talking to my source tonight (last nite now) And for the first time in my life instead of asking for the strength and love to help others, i ask to be s...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:48 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

Thanks for sharing David.

Ironically the teachings i used were that sliver that helped me stand up for myself. Take responsibility for myself.

Yeah i know. Unreal isn't it?
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:40 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

Having called paramedics twice in one day-first time refusing to go to hospital. The 2nd time i didn't have a choice. I just wanted them to stop the bleeding. Paramedic was mad and took over. Told me i didn't have a choice i was going to hospital. Good thing-i would have bleed to death. In the ambul...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:30 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

I DO believe in cult/religion context (and domestic) people can be brainwashed and their will taken. Defeated. Absolutely. Can't say it loud enough. However-it isn't immediate. It's a process. And in that time frame they have a choice. To listen to their gut or not. And if they don't? Heaven help th...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:19 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

David, i know. Our stories are ....i admire you for being open. Takes guts. In my naivete i thought people didn't know they were hurting others. Giving what i experienced as a child it was incomprehensible to inflict pain on others. I dreamed of how to make the world a better place. When RSE came al...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:44 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Re: pseudoscience/define

It took YEARS for me to understand i had low self esteem to begin with. And RSE?

I listened to my feelings. Sat outside during wine ceremony? Climbed the wall and left? Took my blinders off doing forest and walked in to arena. Fine-kick me out but i am not doing it.

People DO have a choice.
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:00 am
Forum: To Inspire and Heal - Breaking the Cult Spell
Topic: Peter Gabriel sings with the New Blood Orchestra - Live
Replies: 1
Views: 1232

Re: Peter Gabriel sings with the New Blood Orchestra - Live

Don't Give Up-beautiful.


A person has to have and believe in them self.

Ever hear the expression, "isolated unity"? It means people that think they stand alone...don't stand alone. There's others around the globe united in belief.
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:02 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

I really didn't want to get into this because i don't think my opinion is taken seriously because it's different than majority. David what drew people to RSE? "Love Yourself Into Life". Validation? What has happened to us as a civilization/society that people do not go within for answers? Instead th...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:40 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

There's no argument from me on that. It's what i am telling you. It has to start within the VICTIM. To get out. Help them self.

Did i not say that RSE isn't "the " problem but rather a symptom of our society? The problem goes MUCH deeper. It's what i have been trying to say?
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:34 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Domestic violence IS same as RSE?
Replies: 9
Views: 2748

Domestic violence IS same as RSE?

- Moderator Comment - This new thread "Domestic violence IS same as RSE?" has been split from our EMF topic thread 'pseudoscience/define' ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ockham, Surely you jest? People paid $1500 to watch History chan...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:16 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

I agree with that entirely. But it has to come from within a profession. Like the doctor in WA? get him to push it within his community.

Listen. Society SUCKS in general when it comes to "victim". Unless you have $$$$$ to hire Gloria Allred.
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:01 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

Perhaps the professionals need to be educated? Seriously, what can they do? If someone is seen standing on a bridge ready to jump-suicide and be stopped they are taken into custody. mandatory 72 hr? To prevent them from harming their self. But cigarettes are legal? Where's the line David? Where's th...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:26 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

David, i uninstalled abi. That's when messages began double tripping and all i got was blanks.

The back door? It's a manual. I am not sure how i got to it. It's a URL?
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:22 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

Victims usually are blamed. You know why? To make it go away rather than address an issue. I watched the LARSE on YouTube. Journey/wise?, 2007? And i was SHOCKED at the underhanded tactic and manipulation of RSE shared by wise? EMF member? (protecting names) She got out. She had a father pulling for...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:49 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

David, i can't get on EMF by clicking on it. I don't know why. It says "not available". I am through a back door that if i can find....something to think about. Return to victim topic. Love them. Give them an example of something different. Respectful/happy. Be kind and caring. Help them catch their...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:37 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

You said it David and that's the frustration. The victim has to Want help. I witnessed someone i love be beaten into submission by her husband. I gave her and her kids a home-repeatedly. She always went back. You know why? Because she didn't want to lose her nice furniture. So what do you do? Take t...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:21 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

I do not know you other than in relation to RSE. As a result i do not know what you have been exposed to. What your experience in life has been. If you have not dealt with the system or had conflict and adversity...my experience has been much different. So speaking from my experience i will sound cy...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:47 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

People in general are reluctant to get involved in things that require taking a stand. Across the board. In any given profession abuse and neglect is ignored. because people do not want to be sued or have to testify. On the victimization of children? What about children in a household of smokers? Ev...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:41 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Re: Misconception professionals don't care

I couldn't get to the post because i had to circumvent system. The children do not have a choice. I wasn't referring to children. The adults do have a choice. As far as CPS not doing anything? It isn't just RSE. I know of unimaginable situations where CPS has "investigated" and not removed children....
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:30 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Stanford is now teaching quantum mechanics on YouTube. Scanning i counted at least 25 hours-free. I have also researched what's being taught at RSE. Alice Baily is an author of many books on occult going back to 1920. Once again-writing a book and having an opinion does not make anyone an expert. In...
by forever
Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:12 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Ockham,

I saw Alex Collier on YouTube and watched a presentation in which he warned the audience AGAINST Ramtha. I was surprised to then find a presentation "at the ranch".
by forever
Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:36 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Hypnosis
Replies: 1
Views: 1704

Hypnosis

Joe, Cheating at anything defeats the purpose-to me. I disagree with you entirely on the cards issue. What i have said to you is; if you're going tell someone it's pseudoscience then have a logical explanation to maintain the integrity of EMF. Moreover, to take things out of context isn't honest or ...
by forever
Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:57 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: IP Blocked?
Replies: 2
Views: 1800

Re: IP Blocked?

I still cannot get on. I had to circumvent. Yes, everyone it's me.
by forever
Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:47 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Misconception professionals don't care
Replies: 28
Views: 4355

Misconception professionals don't care

Not sure where this goes. David, professionals DO care!! However, people have a choice-that's the law. I emailed this to you and i am not on this board to debate opinion. It doesn't assist regrouping. Let me give you some stats. Are you aware of domestic violence? Rape stats? Do you know we lost app...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:29 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School
Replies: 7
Views: 2165

Re: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School

Ockham, RSE took a chapter from occult-the extent of it. Without someone having solid foundation to even attempt to teach such things is destined to destroy individuals who went there with their heart in hand to learn. I wasn't there physically for years like David and many others but i was hooked i...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:48 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: PSEUDO-SCIENCE
Replies: 4
Views: 1929

Re: PSEUDO-SCIENCE

Joe, Ever hear of someone going to school to learn what they already know? :D I am not interested in stirring up conspiracy but i have wondered....if RSE is a research project. I had a friend in major university cussing mad because his professor was using students to do researh (computer) and then p...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:03 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School
Replies: 7
Views: 2165

Re: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School

The alien thing has been ....?

Something called Wes Penres..Papers? About 300 pages of stuff on alien ..it's too much. If you get a chance check it out. Mind boggling.

What's with Canadian Defense Minister and Pope stuff?
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:58 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

That's something i have never herd of. Awesome. Thanks.
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:06 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: drawing distinctions
Replies: 0
Views: 2422

drawing distinctions

When i got the white book and later video dialogue both seemed to exude love. The Pentecostal experience left me gun shy. I was uneasy with the word God. At first RSE was a free space where someone could exhale, haul out their baggage and get the mess cleaned up. Create a new life. Ironically RSE be...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:38 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Isn't Parson the Silver Shirt group and Hubbard the I AM?

Hubbard pursued and recruited the Silver Shirt treasurer to draw the Silver Shirt followers. Again, follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:29 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

In Pentecostal church i had friends, one of the few educated people in that particular church. She was a teacher and he was a salesman for Wrangler. Their home had a very nice fallout shelter. Cold war era.

Can you elaborate please on why a ug needs to be regulated or should be a concern?
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:18 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Thanks Ockham. Cynicism is the result of leaders not practicing what they preach. Sex usually is what destroys honor and credibility. It's the world we live in. How many people no longer pay attention to anything outside of their individual life? Should they? Joe posted and article with interesting ...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:34 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Perhaps it's aliens running RSE?
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:05 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Can't imagine. It was shocking and scary enough with what i recently got off YouTube. I didn't get any of that at RSE. I was in a sliver of time that focused on quantum theory and all potentials exist simultaneously. Rocks??? I just can't imagine the trauma, fear and insanity. It was hard enough hav...
by forever
Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/13

IRAN SAYS " TALL, WHITE " SPACE ALIENS CONTROL AMERICA
There's a ton just like the ones already posted. Anyone think these sources are getting their information from RSE?
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:14 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

David,

You have broached an unsettling ....i think i ask about this?

It's all frightening. People have wondered about RSE being a testing ground? Hard part is everyone pointing a finger-at someone or something else. The answer is-we don't know.
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:08 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Murky indeed. The problem is that no one knows what to believe. WHO to believe. I have stayed away from this stuff on EMF. At this point everything is speculation and suspect. When government corruption, corruption in the church, religious community has been exposed and scientific community doesn't ...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:55 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

Exopolitics.org POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE POPE FRANCIS TO ANNOUNCE EXTRATERRESTRIAL ACCORDING TO NEW BOOK written by DR Michael Salla April 1, 2013 @ 2013. Michael Salla, Ph.D What are people supposed to believe? You don't have to look far to see where RSE is getting informatio...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:18 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

POPE JOHNS DIARY REVEALS KNOWLEDGE of ALIENS (timing may be slightly off) 1999 There's a mountain of this stuff. People do not know what to make of it. Some build a ug. Others are wondering and some are not interested-period. As posted, i only learned of it few months ago. Read and watched everythi...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:45 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

YouTube

UFO EVIDENCE ufoevidence.org
Scientific Study Of The UFO Phenomenon
and Search For Extraterrestrial Life
A, Hovini, UFO universe, September 1988
THE SHOCKING TRUTH: RONALD REAGON'S OBSESSION WITH AN ALIEN INVASION.

People don't know who or what to believe.
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:57 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: PSEUDO-SCIENCE
Replies: 4
Views: 1929

Re: PSEUDO-SCIENCE

I have a 200 amp electrical panel. Half is being utilized.

That's how RSE is marketing the brain and human potential.
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:46 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015

YouTube


BREAKING!!! UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE By Canadian Minister of Defence.
May 2013
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:40 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: PSEUDO-SCIENCE
Replies: 4
Views: 1929

Re: PSEUDO-SCIENCE

Very interesting article. A few decades ago i called a local television company with an honest question. I wanted to know what causes the picture to appear on television screen. I was ask if my television was plugged. If it was turned on. No-that isn't what i am asking. What makes the picture appear...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:29 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Davids experience in contrast to mine reflects and explains the 180 degree shift in teachings. Davids group was the core nucleus of school. What my group called "old timers" and advanced students. They were used to establish and implement field discipline, "prove it" . So when next group comes they ...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:52 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Can't imagine what David is describing. We were treated with kid gloves. No more than two hours on field. Must be they lost too many people $$$ from previous group to be rough on us.

I had never thought of field work as miracle because it was explainable by pseudoscience.
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:18 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Joe, Finding the card is the result. The priority is focus . The obstacle is the steady flow of chatter in the brain. Did i remember to shut and lock door. Turn coffee pot off. Are the kids alright. Homesick. I'm sorry i was such a ......my back hurts. My feet are tired. I wish i had eaten breakfast...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:50 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Davids group laid the ground work for group i was in. He was part of implementing field, i wasn't. It was already established. Imagine you're a new student. Never seen C&E, don't know a soul. We didn't question it because students it had already done by other students. PROVEN. So we believed it's po...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:36 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Joe, There's an entire teaching/class given prior to field. Idea is that frontal lobe is throne of God. Mind. What sits in frontal lobe through focus becomes reality. Focus on the symbol/picture on card and you will go to it-blindfolded. It's focus that's difficult. Ever try to still your thoughts? ...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:08 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

IMO blind people have the developed senses/mind that students can dream of having. Why? Because they see with their mind and not eyes. Do you what's taught at RSE? In depth? It's about "resolving the image". I have met people from every walk of life. Doctor, lawyer and Indian Chief-literally. People...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:13 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: RAMTHA UFO BOOKs 2015 - Last Waltz of the Tyrants
Replies: 18
Views: 3253

Re: RAMTHA UFO BOOK 2015 Last Waltz of the Tyrants

I have it on tape. I didn't have "alien" indoctrination. It was before my time. I was shocked to hear David and Jeff Knight say they were afraid of being eaten by lizards? HUH? A few months ago i stumbled into you tube and Alex Collier "at the ranch"? I watched it. Then many more of his presentation...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:59 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

I meant that all the participants have the belief that they have, are learning to have, and are attempting to demonstrate that they have obtained some sort of paranormal ability and that they think that they are under conditions that are valid, so that the results they get cannot be questioned. One...
by forever
Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:11 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Your grandmother was Tall? Awesome. Common or "normal" events such as first kiss, first day of school need no explanation. Not to me. I went there thinking to have freedom to explore and understand what isn't "normal" in our society. And in a round about way i now understand it. I have had a very di...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:58 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Using your Grandmother as example can you imagine how confused she would have been going through life if her intelligence had not been recognized and cultivated? Imagine the struggle for her? She would have gone through life as "different". Wondering what's wrong with HER that she is the only that s...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:53 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Yes and no?

Some people go to RSE to get something they don't have. Others go to receive an explanation to understand what they have already experienced.
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:24 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

You lost me. What do you mean "test psychics". ???

I do not see any way to skew results. You can see in you tube.
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:09 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

NO.

In a class of 500 we each made two cards. Placed in individual baggies. Not allowed to look at others cards. Goofs us focus if you do. Then on way to field students (suckers) exchange cards many times with other students. Each student hands two cards on fence. Blank side out.
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:47 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

We exchange many many many many times with other students. Without anyone seeing what's on the card or knowing whose card they have. The cards are passed face down. Instructions are to NOT hand cards close together. It's a big field.
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:25 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School
Replies: 7
Views: 2165

Re: Dropped the phrase The American Gnostic School

Ockhma Page can't be found. I had no awareness to such things as aliens etc. Everything has happened in reverse in my life. Meaning 25 years later i find out what was being taught at RSE before i got there. It's in blocks. There appears to be "era" blocks of teaching. I am not inclined to get on any...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:09 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

I'm saying i don't think they actually expect anything extraordinary to occur. The point is an ascended master would have already known about it. Paranormal? There is no one size fits fit all. Meaning what's normal to one may not be normal to another. That's why i am cautious about others life-messi...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:45 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

I have never and will never focus on miracles. On the cards? Good question. Have not done it in forever-no pun :D At the time i was so excited it didn't occur to me. Had no idea what RSE is. Well, can't really say that. Because first time JZ opened her mouth as "self"-i knew something was amiss. Say...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:29 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Hey Joe, Be careful. You're quoting Ramtha. I get the impression that we all have a different take (of sorts) on RSE teachings because we were there at different times. There's blocks of teaching. "I am not my body" is an expression used to clarify a persons interest, position. Actually, it is one a...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:34 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Just told there's been 3/ cases of people with 2 sets DNA on news last six months. Also, when was DNA done on JZ?
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:09 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Ockham Cards. The disciplines do not create finding of card on fence. Bear with me here please as i attempt to strighten out the association between C&E, focus being what takes student to their card. It isn't. If you get in Third Eye examine and evaluate the idea of thought having vibration and freq...
by forever
Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:09 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

RSE is teaching almost identical from Third Eye, VS Alder. A book I scanned weeks ago and last night went back to actually read. I spent hours on fifteen pages. Hours! IMO RSE has taken what is indeed called "ancient wisdom" or hidden knowledge as it has been referred to in the occult. Created disci...
by forever
Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:54 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Re: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their ca

Ockham; Thank You for responding. It has been a point of confusion and major frustration for me. No criticism here ( and i mean it) but what i am hearing is that it isn't real, is luck or otherwise dismissed entirely without answering a question because we all know RSE is crap. It is important (imo)...
by forever
Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:24 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?
Replies: 36
Views: 4746

Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card?

Question: Is it a fantasy that people in a blindfold find their card on a fence?
by forever
Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:19 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: David, you get the emails DNA?
Replies: 1
Views: 1733

David, you get the emails DNA?

Hey everyone,

Cell tower trouble and computer went down. Messages dropped. I have no idea what has and hasn't been received. David, you get the emails DNA? I just now tried to email and i have no idea if you received it?
Let me know.

Thanks

GB :D
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:35 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

OMG bless you! My brain has stretch marks from all the books, articles, posts, my thoughts and processing. I agree with you. It's exactly what happens. I am more fortunate than many because i didn't integrate. I couldn't. Too insane for me. I took the teachings and ran. It's been an alone journey in...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:43 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

RSE Website has changed. It's sloppy as if thrown together carelessly. Advertising alien cds and Ramtha crop circle stickers. It's sad. Our bad ass warrior that (in theory) so bold and bombastic from behind the veil of a woman. Won't show his face. I am not sorry i went there. At that time in my lif...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:14 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Thanks David. Now i understand but it still doesn't make sense. So that's the "Big Event" she was marketing huh? It's all about the $$$$$$$$$. If proving Ramtha is the priority why not just have him step out? End the drama & suspense. DNA shows two separate DNA. One taken before and during channel? ...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:29 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

where did Joe get the information JZ revealed DNA test results? I'm trying to find the news article she put out? Anyone have it?
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:55 pm
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

Seriously, Keep the faith. My kids really went through it. However, she got through college and is independent. A scientist actually. For years i was destroyed, anguish over the effect of my choices on my children. Recently she told me she attributes her success to the structure of our home and life...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:57 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

I am questioning the relevance of her DNA? You are not your body is the foundation of Christianity. Journey Of Soul Into Matter/Body is a doctrine of RSE. Talks about why a soul would reincarnate into a different lineage. I do not see the relevance of her DNA. Not to mention the shady character invo...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:30 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

I will see if i get her to post on EMF. She's busy so it won't be immediately.

I don't understand what JZ DNA has to with Ramtha? "He" never said he's IN her body. The explanation was that he overlays her body and works it through reptilian brain.

Response please?
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:19 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

I have a family member that's a scientist. Several degrees. Fellowship with CDC. Iowa Hygienic Lab. Public Health. Let me see what i can do.
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:10 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Ockham,

The stars "come out at night". Where are they the rest of the time?
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:57 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Would someone explain why this is even an issue? What does having two sets of DNA have to do with an alleged ascended master she allegedly channels? ??????

Want to prove he's real? Let him show himself. That simple.
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:35 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Hey Joe, Appreciate your response. When something is important to me i go with it. I have 24/7 to research and process. I also have a very quick mind. Process quickly and on to the next question in the blink of an eye. That fast. Once i am on something i stay on it until it's resolved. It's like bei...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:51 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Ockham-my thoughts exactly!!

It's just a publicity stunt.
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:23 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Independence
Replies: 2
Views: 1825

Re: Independence

That was a subject i wasn't going to approach. :-) Celibacy. In our "modern" world :roll: that we call civilized :roll: sex is so .... :shock: Lack of self respect and respect for the act. IMO celibacy is a natural part of evolving. When someones thoughts are on Christ ....! To each his own. In reli...
by forever
Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:22 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Thanks David, Don't say it too loud. I might show up at your door :lol: I agree. I have had enough....it's insane. Fortunately for me i wasn't integrated into RSE. WHEW!!! And no RSE friends. However, nothing can compare to when i left Pentecostal and went out into a world completely unfamiliar. :sh...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:56 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

All of us have looked to others for direction, inspiration, help, support from many different sources, institutions. Mental health, religion, education and science. All are based on opinion. History reads the way whoever wrote it wanted it to. Medical field isn't a science either. Religion-which one...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:45 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Crystal Blue Persuasion Cocaine Reference?
Replies: 7
Views: 1848

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

I have never seen such insanity. I wasn't there for it. I grabbed the information and ran. Most of what i have is early to late 90s. "Truth" teachings. You know-back when it was important to be honest? Not play games. Nor was there as teachings changed. That was the SHOCK when after evolving ( i don...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:30 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

I am sick and tired and fed up chasing this that and everything else from hell and back in the name of God. Heaven/hell, society, mental health, politics, science, education, religion and RSE and every other cult and organized crime syndicate all have a self serving agenda. I am obviously blowing a ...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:12 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

David you have a marvelous sense of humor.

The DNA stunt takes all. It got my ire up. When and where does the insanity of RSE end? ENOUGH already!!!!!!

At this point i don't give a shit if Ramtha is real. I've had enough of the insanity and ugliness. Give THAT to Willy Wonka.
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:47 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez
Replies: 42
Views: 7090

Re: JZK-R DNA testing by Chiropractor Matthew Martinez

Excuse me but how in the hell can anyone get a DNA sample from an invisible Ramtha? It's bullshit. Excuse my mouth but this garbage has gone on unnecessarily for far too long and reads like a freaking soap opera!! The cliff hanger that holds raft attention? Why go through all the cloak and dagger to...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:36 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Alright everyone. Brain storming here (as you know :-) ) for answers. Here's what i have come up with. That organized anything is a construct of thought-doctrine. Politics, education, religion, RSE, atheism, medical field, law. No science or absolutes in any of it. Just some basic concepts. Gnosis c...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:33 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: do unto others
Replies: 16
Views: 2635

Re: do unto others

Ockham, Wow, 3 of us live in Amish counties? Interesting. Yes, they can be cold. I have turned to them to create better self sufficiency. I bug em-pick their brain and hire them to teach me. The Amish here are "modern". They have generators and don't use kerosene. My Pentecostal life was quite simil...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:59 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Joe, Gnosis can't be taught. It comes from within. I don't see faith, reason, gnosis as separate. It's one thing. I had already had unimaginable experiences long before RSE. I went there for an explanation. I understand the pseudoscience aspect. Meaning that RSE uses unproven science as a foundation...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:31 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: do unto others
Replies: 16
Views: 2635

Re: do unto others

Thanks Joe.

I agree. I have backed off because i see the biggest issue is ego. It's sad. It hurt deeply to discover a situation so close. A person has to take personal responsibility.

You live in Amish. It's a trip. I love them and their products. They do good work.
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:27 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Joe, Thanks for response. Words are a pain in the @##$. Words also create misunderstandings. Let's replace "agenda" with the word position/stance. :D As you know i was in Pentecostal many years and staunch in my faith, belief in God. Not the church-God. There's a difference. I devoured my bible. Her...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:36 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Independence
Replies: 2
Views: 1825

Independence

RSE has a wide dragnet. For females it's a major hook. JZ had it all. She was talented, independent, beautiful, a business woman and feminine at the same time. When i read her book i could relate to her. Plus she was intelligent. I didn't know then. Back then she was sweet. For females that had stru...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:26 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: to Forever: not able to access your message
Replies: 2
Views: 1766

Re: to Forever: not able to access your message

I was asking about mundane/magnificent. :lol:

Mine fell through. Back to start. Find another. :-x
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:21 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: OMG JZ auctioning Ramtha alien shirt
Replies: 1
Views: 1758

OMG JZ auctioning Ramtha alien shirt

Just saw it. The shirt Ramtha wore at big event being auctioned, currently at $8,000. My God, what's next.





hey Ockham, clog in the system? I was asking you about mundane/magnificent.
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:14 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

I understand what RSE parents are doing. They see the world as a threat. Are keeping kids away from society. They think they are protecting them. And yet I cannot image ANY parent allowing their child at a wine ceremony. Exposing them to filth and a harsh environment. It's hard to say the fate of th...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:51 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

Cult children. I didn't allow the boys to go shirtless. They could wear shorts. My daughter wore only dresses. As did i and females of any age were not allowed to cut hair. I wasn't sure how to raise the kids. What does any 18 year old person know about life? I got into the Pentecostal church becaus...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:32 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

I was under 25 when i got the "call" that ultimately took me to RSE. I read my bible every chance i got. With 3 kids? It was when they were napping. One day i was reading my bible, scripture that said, "get wisdom, knowledge and understanding". What struck me is the "knowledge". What is it? There i ...
by forever
Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:23 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

I spent many years in a Pentecostal church. I got involved when i was 20 and left 9 years later. I had no contact with society other than to go to grocery store. Always had my kids with me. Never away from the kids. My life consisted of being a wife, mother and loving God. That's where RSE began for...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:46 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Joe I have cut my teeth on EMF breaking away from RSE, regaining myself. The tough questions have to be ask. Emf is a library for people that are struggling to comprehend RSE yes, but isn't limited to RSE. Not only are the similarities between religion and RSE scary-but the same abuse and control ta...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

Re: pseudoscience/define

Patience please. I am wading through information. Perhaps it should be titled defining delusion/reality rather than pseudoscience? Joe, i ask you to explain the difference between the mental health definition of delusion/reality compared to the accepted practice within the religious community. Then ...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:50 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pseudoscience/define
Replies: 23
Views: 3462

pseudoscience/define

I am asking an honest question and requesting a response from all who read it. People threw off religion and ran to RSE as well as other groups that professed to have answers that religion didn't/doesn't provide. We took a journey through Ramthaland and here we are. Coming out of it, waking up. Aski...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:13 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

Joe, Question: In mental health how is delusion defined? Would you consider someone that talks to them self or has an invisible friend as delusional? If so how then how do we reconcile faith and prayer? I do not know of any religion (Christian) that doesn't teach and preach that God, an unproven and...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:47 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

Joe To prove a miracle wasn't and isn't the question or answer. Proving an extraordinary event does not identify or prove the source , cause. That was the question. My point to you is that EMF is a place where and for people to go that are questioning and waking up to mind control and brainwashing. ...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:34 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: phoenix rising school RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 2800

Re: phoenix rising school RSE

Decades ago the Pentecostal Church was a closed community with strict moral code. Main theme was, come out from amongst them and be ye separate . In reference to main stream society. Home schooling sprung up as a way to prevent children from being effected by society. The curriculum was based on the...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:25 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: LARSE/Greg Simmons 2007
Replies: 3
Views: 2025

LARSE/Greg Simmons 2007

I saw the video tonight. I want to to point out that Greg Simmons cited a large number of people that have gone to RSE in contrast to the handful of disgruntled students that comprise LARSE. Question: So why if 50,000-70,000 (est) have attended RSE are there how few in contrast that make up the core...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:45 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: It's not the disciplines/teachings
Replies: 4
Views: 2006

Re: It's not the disciplines/teachings

Ockham :D

I have read more in the last 30-45 days than 2 years.

Let me say that while most of my life i had no television, due to circumstances and i began watching television 4? years ago. Talk about mind control!! I got rid of it last fall and have been "learning" since.

Thanks
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:04 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

Joe sz I am not selling anything and how would "collaboration" answer the question that out of the confusion and TRUST i posted. For you to make it suspect? Allow me to point out that it CAN be "proven" with-through and by public record. Easy. However, THAT is not and was not the question. And for y...
by forever
Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to

David, The question wasn't "if" something not only improbable but impossible occurred. That's a given. I wasn't trying to "manifest" anything. I was in an unhappy situation and angry. I didn't even want the property after discovering that i had been lied to, stabbed in the back and used by the one t...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:45 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Common Ground July 1995 Vol.X No 1. Part 1 & 2
Replies: 4
Views: 4421

Re: Common Ground July 1995 Vol.X No 1. Part 1 & 2

I quake and shake within and break out in a sweat to think of lives i impacted. I believed the illusion and concerned for others tried to get someone to go to RSE. Thank God he had the insight not to go. At the time it was devastating to me that my family ...they despised it, Jz/RSE, i didn't dare o...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:28 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles that i automatically attribute

Exactly Joe, my point and anger precisely at what RSE is doing. I posted today about that very thing. What's sacred isn't marketed, flaunted or for sale. Quite frankly it didn't occur to me to use RSE BS on it. My background was real estate and i was going through that process/procedure. Completely ...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:49 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: It's not the disciplines/teachings
Replies: 4
Views: 2006

Re: It's not the disciplines/teachings

Ockham,

I didn't know there's a difference between .com and ,EDU and criteria that determines which. I am getting an education. You mentioned in a post about real estate listings. Ramster homes having the picture of Jz doing the finger gesture? I have a finger gesture for her. :lol:
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:15 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles that i automatically attribute

Anything sacred is not marketed or used to obtain fame and fortune It isn't flaunted. It's kept private. Rse is set up and designed to market and cultivate RSE-not spiritual growth. And the people that go there honestly believing are oblivious to the manipulation and deceit. They don't catch the bai...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:06 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles that i automatically attribute

RSE has cinflict of interest. It is impossible to market "enlightenment" and simultaneously profess to be doing "the great work." The commercialism aspect erases spiritual aspect. So that what they end up with equates to someone paying $$$$ to waste their energy on "disciplines" that in and of them ...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:56 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: what created the miracles that i automatically attribute

Nope, what was on the survey days earlier (and witnessed) we had out going over changed on the survey as well as all copies, including master copy at surveyors and appeared on the plat map hanging on the wall at city hall. And i am not talking about weeks later. City hall was less than 4 blocks away...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:34 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: It's not the disciplines/teachings
Replies: 4
Views: 2006

It's not the disciplines/teachings

I have no idea where this goes. I want to clarify what i have said. First and foremost within the last 6 weeks? i have forced a watermelon through a key hole in all the information i have had to comprehend. Intense. And like anyone else it's a process not an event. I want to clarify something. That ...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:44 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: Cognitive dissonance...!

Now you understand my confusion? People saying the teachings don't work? All the mind boggling ....i have experienced i attributed to the teachings and Ramtha. Only to discover Ramtha isn't real? I'm not being sarcastic. I'm serious as a heart attack. The only explanation i have is that consciousnes...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:36 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: Cognitive dissonance...!

I have depended on manifestations for my survival. And because of so much other stuff materials no longer mattered. Being able to manifest. i wanted to KNOW God. Go beyond where i was. I had already experienced things that most people would be hard pressed to believe. I had a goal. To get myself int...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:26 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: Cognitive dissonance...!

now you see the dilemma for me? The question? There's several witnesses. I automatically attributed it to RSE. Consciousness and energy or Ramtha. After that experience i knew anything is possible. That's only one of the things. The cop that had a copy of the survey knew about RSE. I was giving him ...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:12 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: Cognitive dissonance...!

I don't as a rule disclose such things and as i read California Dreamin and others i have wrestled with it. All of us are asking same things. The following is an example. One of the miracles. I was given a small piece of undeveloped land. It was in 2 sections. One was .75 of an acre and the was 1.5 ...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:38 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: what created the miracles i automatically attributed to RSE?
Replies: 19
Views: 2690

Re: Cognitive dissonance...!

Ramtha isn't real. He is her and she is him. One and same. No doubt in my mind.

The teachings: We know Ramtha isn't real. We know where the "ancient wisdom" came from. Here's my question and dillema.


So what created the miracles that i automatically attributed to RSE?
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:43 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Replies: 24
Views: 6615

Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question

It's one of the most awful books, subjects, i have ever read. It was mandatory reading. Not a pleasant subject. back then unheard of and now common knowledge. Requires a strong stomach.
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:39 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: do unto others
Replies: 16
Views: 2635

Re: do unto others

Doing a lot of soul searching. Change isn't easy. Not when my entire reality has been shaken and i am defining what i am and believe in. Ironically the "do unto others" has been put in my face. As posted the information about government, grey men, conspiracies is a lot to put on anyone. A new studen...
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:51 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Replies: 24
Views: 6615

Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question

Thanks Ockham.

I agree. To me it was used to instill fear, sow doubt and mistrust. You familiar with Cathy O'brian and Mark Phillips? Trace formation Of America?


How's your book coming? i don't have it yet.
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:01 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Replies: 24
Views: 6615

Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question

It was work to believe the channel concept. I was skeptical. From the moment i opened the white book it turned my life upside down. I didn't read much of it at first because it was just too bizarre. Put it aside and life went on. But something drew me back to the book. Over time it got my attention....
by forever
Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:13 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Replies: 24
Views: 6615

Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question

I have read everything i can in an attempt to understand and get to the "truth", A word i don't even like or trust any longer. Unlike many on EMF i didn't have any prior awareness of God as anything beyond religion. It was very challenging for me to embrace the "teachings". The hard part is that wha...
by forever
Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:10 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Edna Ballard claims to been Joan Of Arc
Replies: 2
Views: 1937

Re: Edna Ballard claims to been Joan Of Arc

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I needed a good laugh. It's so insane what else can you do but laugh? So now ascension is in death when the soul departs-ascends :?: Oh!
by forever
Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:01 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Edna Ballard claims to been Joan Of Arc
Replies: 2
Views: 1937

Edna Ballard claims to been Joan Of Arc

Found it under Ascension Research Center. She claims to have been Joan Of Arc. Apparently Ramtha and St Germain are confused. Maybe it's altzheimers :mrgreen: Wouldn't that be an interesting lawsuit. JZ suing Edna for saying SHE was Joan Of Arc or being sued by Edna Ballard..Maybe there was two Joan...
by forever
Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:55 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Dear RSE Student
Replies: 11
Views: 2913

Re: Dear RSE Student

Dear Student, Have you wondered why it costs so much for an event? Why your beloved teacher Ramtha, for sale? Auctioned off to the highest bidder for a one on one? You should know in the early days an hour session with Ramtha was $500? Back to the question of why it costs so much for events can best...
by forever
Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:54 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: The List
Replies: 1
Views: 1731

The List

Anyone have a copy of the list from the I Am church?

I have the one from RSE that came with the cd. Not to mention I know it by heart.

My fabulous wealth came, i woke up to the lie of RSE.


David: Keep it coming. The information/articles/books are incredibly liberating.

Thank You
by forever
Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:37 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Dear RSE Student
Replies: 11
Views: 2913

Re: Dear RSE Student

I'm serious as a heart attack about Hitler tactics. Don't take my word for it-or anything else for that matter. Be responsible. Protect yourself and loved ones by educating yourself. Many informative books are available online as pdf free. I cannot say enough about Psychic Dictatorship. It appears t...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:37 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Dear RSE Student
Replies: 11
Views: 2913

Re: Dear RSE Student

I just scanned Psychic Dictatorship In USA. It's about the I Am church. Guy Ballard and his wife Edna. St Germain, same BS. Greed, dictatorship, fear.....crap. That has robbed people of their life-literally. Their money, energy, mind, neglected health. It's incomprehensible. I feel sick-literally. T...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:10 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Dear RSE Student
Replies: 11
Views: 2913

Re: Dear RSE Student

Dear C.D. Thank you for responding. After watching the many video's of Linda Evens and again the one of JZ spitting at her-i wasn't happy with my criticism and judgment of her. Not to mention recalling that when JZ played her game of the grey men trying to close the school. it was Linda Evans that l...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:25 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ramthas teacher
Replies: 3
Views: 1806

Re: Ramthas teacher

I don't think this is the accurate place for what i am posting. David sos. Psychic Dictatorship...de ja vous. At the start of the school? Church I Am founded Guy Ballard and his wife after the alleged appearing of St Germaine to Guy in CA. At the first group meeting St Germaine as channeled went bac...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:58 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ramthas teacher
Replies: 3
Views: 1806

Re: Ramthas teacher

I read something by Sir Roberts :roll: daughter. she published a public apology for any harm done by a product he was marketing-that killed him. Caused kidney failure. It's all such a twisted crock of crap. First and foremost RSE is a corporation. Duh. That resulted from a created product called , e...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:14 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ramthas teacher
Replies: 3
Views: 1806

Ramthas teacher

Yes, he had one, positive. His old teacher. Small man. kept his writings wrapped in a leather? to protect. Their initial meeting was a man that trespassed on a property. The warrior said to the old man, "know i could i cut your head off in a moment"? The old man says, "know in a moment i will let yo...
by forever
Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:54 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Guess I'm Just Too Ignorant And Obtuse To Enlighten
Replies: 10
Views: 2363

Re: Guess I'm Just Too Ignorant And Obtuse To Enlighten

Science Of Mind Have it and scanned 95 pages so far. Oh My. Realize how many people (that don't read a lot) have no idea there's nothing original about "the teachings"? Except the Ramtha character and he is pieced together from many sources. Straight out of Hollywood. Unbelievable. History repeats,...

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