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- Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:37 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
- Replies: 57
- Views: 40554
Re: At the end of the day we are all responsible for self.
Only someone with JZ's twisted world view would find EMF abusive and 'truth ceremonies' not. I hope you find your way back to reality, compassion and love forever.
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:31 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Is there anything that can be said that will help?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 14561
Re: Is there anything that can be said that will help?
Hello and welcome Hollander. It can feel overwhelming being in the position of a loved one, as my family informed me after I left RSE, I was oblivious to their pain and anxieties. Oblivious isn't the right word, I didn't give a damn, and at the time thought them ignorant and lost. My family allowed ...
- Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:59 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 11761
Re: How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion
Glad to see you posting, Angelette is it, and welcome. I couldn't disagree more though than with your being taught, or learning "self betrayal" comment, as this is exactly how JZ draws people in, by convincing them that everything they thought they knew before they met her, is mindless hoo...
- Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:43 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Freedom
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5903
Re: Freedom
Well put Freedom, If JZ Knight were as confident in her teachings and really believed the LIES she SELLS, why has she spent so much of her time and our money suing and terrorizing those who question, confront or expose the truth about her 'school' and 'disciplines'???? Also, people who have nothing ...
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:34 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ram-Booze-led
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7803
Re: Ram-Booze-led
TY David
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:51 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ram-Booze-led
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7803
Re: Ram-Booze-led
Missy, Your writing and reporting has changed lives, and I can't thank you enough for the actions and words you have chosen to shine a light on JZ the destroyer. I wish the families of her victims could all come together and sue her civilly here in the US. Is this possible? God knows they number in ...
- Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:51 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Copyright to hide illegal acts & hate by Melissa Genson
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4946
Re: Copyright to hide illegal acts & hate by Melissa Genson
Melissa Genson, you are my new hero!!!!!
The best reporting on JZ Knight I have ever read.
Thank you. You are an angel.
The best reporting on JZ Knight I have ever read.
Thank you. You are an angel.
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:06 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Melissa Genson letter to JZ Knight
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5459
Re: Melissa Genson letter to JZ Knight
Bless you Melissa Genson, and your powerful, brutally honest words. The world needs more Melissa Genson's and Jacob Bolemes, and Vanda Boones. David, Can't the family of Jacob Boleme and Glenwald duToit sue JZ Knight in US civil court, as she not only literally called the Neniere's to the atrocities...
- Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:49 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: People need Support
- Replies: 9
- Views: 9530
Re: People need Support
I am really grateful to have you here Forever. I am reminded of myself not too long ago in your words, and it fills me with sadness at first, and then hope and then knowledge that you are going to make it. I will never forget that sinking feeling in my stomach, worried to the point of ULCERS over dt...
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:47 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Who 'is' Ramtha?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6851
Re: Who 'is' Ramtha?
Very well put Seriously,
If help is what you are truly here for Mindstate, this is the place to find it
If help is what you are truly here for Mindstate, this is the place to find it
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:22 pm
- Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
- Topic: Didn't Ramtha have any sons?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5006
Re: Didn't Ramtha have any sons?
JZ Knight is a terrible actress who leeches and pilfers from the most vulnerable in society, the open hearted! NOW THERE IS A FACT FOR YOU
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:17 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15727
Re: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
Actually, I wasn't going to post today but I am recovering from a hangover and so am going to write you while my head is recovering.
Never seen you drunk on here? Really.....
Never seen you drunk on here? Really.....
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:05 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Who 'is' Ramtha?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6851
Re: Who 'is' Ramtha?
Mindstate, There you go being all high and mighty, we need to bow to the all knowing all seeing mindstate, you have all the answers and we should just sit back and let you work your 'magic' right? Your days are numbered if proselytizing disproven hokey excrement is what you are here for. I think you...
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:42 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15727
Re: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
Mindstate, There you go being all high and mighty, we need to bow to the all knowing all seeing mindstate, you have all the answers and we should just sit back and let you work your 'magic' right? Your days are numbered if proselytizing disproven hokey excrement is what you are here for. I think you...
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:06 am
- Forum: Off Topic Posts - Recycle Bin - Really Weird Stuff - Moved to Here
- Topic: Can we 'wonder' off into the stars tonight?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 6483
Re: Can we 'wonder' off into the stars tonight?
Enough already with your soapbox sermons Mindstate. You are no different or special or capable of 'magic' than David Copperfield, and claiming you are only leaves rational people concerned for you. If you are here to convert people to your own form of jz knights nonsense, not only are you wasting yo...
- Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:40 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15727
Re: I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.
Hallelujah,
Thank you David!
Thank you David!
- Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:37 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: Can finally admit to myself what bothered me and why
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5989
- Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:40 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 27652
Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Now you have gone all breaking bad Mindstate, not a good argument for all your bumper sticker philosophies. I simply wanted to know what your motivation was, and you have revealed that very clearly. I honestly hope you find peace and the help anyone whose been through JZ's ringer obviously does. Not...
- Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:53 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 27652
Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Like all the responses you've given so far to honest, fair and simply worded questions Mindstate: cryptic, muddy and meaningless to anyone other than yourself. Extricating oneself from the clutches and mind raping holocaust of JZ Knight and her horde is an involved, personal and deeply troubling exp...
- Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:48 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 27652
Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Mindstate, Speaking for myself, I would just as soon as you kept your 'keys' that you got from the imposter JZ Knight, as I have experienced the devastation these so called 'keys' have wrought, and would caution anyone applying these 'keys' to their lives as foolhardy and in most cases counter produ...
- Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:43 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 27652
Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Mindstate, Can you decipher this for me, I'm not sure what you are saying here: "Since I am not hateful, I have a mission for you. Go on the RSE newsletter website and scroll all along the 'student accomplishments' thread. If you see anyone mentioned more than once, keep an eye on them. And ble...
- Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:51 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 27652
Re: The "Great Work" is real. And the RSE is a 'cult' also.
Hello Mindstate, everyone. I have read your posts, most of them, enough I think. If you go into a Casino, and give money to that casino, whether you win or lose, doesn't that make you a gambler? Casinos operate under the principle of having odds rigorously in their favor, and every 'game' in a casin...
- Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:11 am
- Forum: All Things EMF - Researching the Ramtha Cult? Use our EMF Search Engine
- Topic: Recent EMF hacker spam attack
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4075
Re: EMF hacker attack
YW David, glad you caught it and it didn't have the desired effect the hacker intended. Great job David
- Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:04 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Bio channel, my ghost story
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8361
Re: Bio channel, my ghost story
Another destructive fear tactic in the repertoire of JZ's sick and seductive playbook..........if you can scare the shit out of people with untruths or outlandish claims, you become their redeemer. Clever, but so was Joseph Goebbels.
- Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:14 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Bio channel, my ghost story
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8361
Re: Bio channel, my ghost story
Anyone remember the 'super spin move' JZ taught us to just spin those little enfared bastards right off of you? Each time I would spin those imaginary turds off, it took me back to playground windmills, (which is exactly what it was). I'm pretty sure it was a blue college teaching, because this is w...
- Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:04 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I think that many of you misunderstand Ramtha’s teaching
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8590
- Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:40 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I think that many of you misunderstand Ramtha’s teaching
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8590
Re: I think that many of you misunderstand Ramtha’s teaching
Thank you Shocked,
Your posts are very well worded and helpful to me, so please know that. Your words and posts have helped me more than you know, and again, thank you.
Your posts are very well worded and helpful to me, so please know that. Your words and posts have helped me more than you know, and again, thank you.
- Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:03 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I think that many of you misunderstand Ramtha’s teaching
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8590
Re: I think that many of you misunderstand Ramtha’s teaching
Cuellarm88, Thanks for posting. With all due respect, trying to convince people whose lives were devastated by the actions of Charlatan JZ Knight, that they are somehow wrong, by using JZ Knights manipulative and destructive dogma that caused the devastation, might not be the best approach. I apprec...
- Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:00 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Tree posts moved from MikeW's thread Re: RSE Fire Codes
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9797
Re: Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
Tree, Discussing this issue with you is counterproductive because: A.) As much as you might try and convince people otherwise, you don't know what the hell you are talking about pertaining to this issue, B.) I don't wish to give you any more opportunities to sabotage years of intense and thorough in...
- Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:44 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Tree posts moved from MikeW's thread Re: RSE Fire Codes
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9797
Re: Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
Tree, You are agreeing with an admitted liar and manipulative mouthpiece of an even bigger liar, only because you are angry that you didn't get the attention or credit you feel was owed to you, and the fact that we edited your posts. You can't post whatever you want to on this site Tree, there are s...
- Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:07 am
- Forum: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at (RSE), a division of JZK Inc.
- Topic: RSE Fire & Building Codes - John Michael "Mike" Wright Legal Affairs Manager for JZK.Inc RSE.Inc - Music Copyrights
- Replies: 48
- Views: 31016
Re: Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
EVERYTHING!!! Thank you Rooster
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:43 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Tree posts moved from MikeW's thread Re: RSE Fire Codes
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9797
Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
Tree, Leave it to you, in a situation such as this, to make this ALL ABOUT YOU! Why do you continue to poke a stick at David, a person who you have caused tremendous problems and time consuming headaches. It is because of David that you are even allowed to post here in this open and free forum, and ...
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:42 am
- Forum: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at (RSE), a division of JZK Inc.
- Topic: RSE Fire & Building Codes - John Michael "Mike" Wright Legal Affairs Manager for JZK.Inc RSE.Inc - Music Copyrights
- Replies: 48
- Views: 31016
RSE Fire & Building Codes - John Michael "Mike" Wright is the Legal Affairs Manager for JZK.Inc RSE.Inc
Mike Wright, Of all the things that implicate JZ Knight, RSE and yourself in a decades long cult/con that has destroyed hundreds of families and individuals, you choose to comment on 'fire and building codes'? You have to be shitting me, you have some balls. What about Omega, the scam that JZ convin...
- Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:45 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
Hi HeyV, Your post was the highlight of my day! I am so happy for you and inspired by you. The impact of your words in the days and years to come, read by people in the condition many of us found ourselves after rse, will impart hope and joy. This inspirational epiphany will mean the difference betw...
- Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:58 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: BURLINGTON FREE PRESS/RAMTHA ARTICLES
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6078
Re: BURLINGTON FREE PRESS/RAMTHA ARTICLES
I got them by remote viewing :lol: That is a valid point Joe, great description of how contagious just a few carefully picked words can be. It definitely takes a special kind of bastard to do so. The reams of notebooks I had full of them went up in 8 foot flames on my BBQ last summer..........very c...
- Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:44 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Return of Compassion
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8996
Re: Return of Compassion
Great to hear from you Newshoes. This is definitely a process, but a beautiful one that I have come to embrace. My thoughts are with you in this trying time. ps. point of order for that youtube poster's info, Curt died in 94, Everybody Hurts was written in 92..........huge Nirvana fan..............h...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:55 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: BURLINGTON FREE PRESS/RAMTHA ARTICLES
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6078
Re: BURLINGTON FREE PRESS/RAMTHA ARTICLES
Thanks Joe, Here is yet another example of the tremendous and permanent damage JZ Knight inflicts upon her 'students' and the outlying effect of collateral damage on those who may have innocently interacted with them. Not dissimilar to the pain and suffering I caused my friends and family at Judith'...
- Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:24 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: the verbal, psychological, and physical abuse as well as, sleep deprivation, that I witnessed
- Replies: 27
- Views: 16138
Re: how relieved I am to have found a forum of ex-RSE studen
Welcome Survivr, Thank you for your post. The experience I had at rse and my subsequent recovery from that nightmare, have altered my life substantially, and if it weren't for EMF and the people on this site who helped me through my darkest days and nights, I would still be suffering, with no end in...
- Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:42 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I was hooked
- Replies: 31
- Views: 19100
Re: I was hooked
Hello Shocked and a warm welcome. :-) Thank you for sharing your powerful and heartbreaking experience. What everyone has said is right on the money. I am reminded every time I read a post such as yours of the same exact sense of shock,, surprise, anger, sadness and guilt I went through, and still d...
- Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:26 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information???
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7136
Re: JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information?
I know how outlandish and ridiculous much of what spews from the mouth of JZ sounds to me now, and I also remember how seriously I took it all, from the flesh eating reptilians, the infared beings that perched outside of bars, waiting on the unsuspecting ignorant social conscious person to latch ont...
- Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:32 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information???
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7136
Re: JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information?
Hi Seriously and everyone, Without re-listening to the tapes, I have to tell you of this off the top of my head, from what I remember. Mind you this was in the early to mid nineties, when ufo's, reptilian politicians, infared beings, and the such were all the rage for jz and rse. JZ Knight, pretendi...
- Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:12 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Hello all, this is Breckan, the attorney for Enlightened Europa.
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14216
Re: Hello all, this is Breckan, the attorney for Enlightened
Thank you Breckan,
That makes much more sense now.
That makes much more sense now.
- Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:58 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information???
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7136
JZ Knight has to use a court to try and get information???
In the name of all that is holy, why does the person intimately connected to the God "Ramtha", the god of the wind, the great co creator of Jesus Christ, the 'ramtha' that knows all, sees all, hears all, is all, blah blah blah need with a court of law to attain information to sue people? C...
- Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:19 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Hello all, this is Breckan, the attorney for Enlightened Europa.
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14216
Re: Hello all, this is Breckan, the attorney for Enlightened
David or Breckan,
Can you please help us understand what it means by 'the judge did not strike the declarations'. What are the declarations, and what does this mean? Thank you for your time and support.
Freemysoul
Can you please help us understand what it means by 'the judge did not strike the declarations'. What are the declarations, and what does this mean? Thank you for your time and support.
Freemysoul
- Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:29 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
We are all here for you HeyV. Don't hesitate to post or contact people on the pm feature if you need to. There is always someone on that is willing to lend an ear or shoulder and getting the things that are depressing you out in the open is sometimes the best way to alleviate it.
- Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:20 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Yelm NV News: Ex-RSE group battles subpoena
- Replies: 19
- Views: 16376
Re: Yelm NV News: Ex-RSE group battles subpoena
Great job Breckan, thank you sooooo much for your support and expertise. It is because of your legal guidance and belief in the ideals our constitution stands for that JZ Knight cannot inject even more fear into the lives of those who have finally pulled free of her manipulative grasp. Congratulatio...
- Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:35 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: I cannot believe I just found you guys..
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12548
Re: I cannot believe I just found you guys..
I understand completely NS :-) and you are in great company, This is a process, a deliberate, sometimes painful, but completely liberating process. It was almost like a rebirth for me, relearning things that most take for granted. Still now, more than two years since my last event, I still struggle ...
- Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:46 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: I cannot believe I just found you guys..
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12548
Re: I cannot believe I just found you guys..
Welcome Newshoes,
So glad to have you here and posting so eloquently. The more of us bound here by our shared experience strengthens each of our resolve.
Freemysoul
So glad to have you here and posting so eloquently. The more of us bound here by our shared experience strengthens each of our resolve.
Freemysoul
- Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:41 pm
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: What the … ?!!!!!!
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4390
Re: What the … ?!!!!!!
Great research and find Delavie, these guys are typical of the 'too good to be true' investment scemes JZ has involved the members of rse with for years. And for her to warn of the consequence of misleading or attaining things by fraudulence is laughable. The snake oil salesman in JZ is drawn to all...
- Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:03 pm
- Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
- Topic: Sir Robert The Biggest Loser a Casino ever Saw
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14618
Re: Sir Robert The Biggest Loser a Casino ever Saw
These allegations of 'winning the lottery because of what people learn at rse' are no different than all the other outlandish, dishonest tactics jz has to resort to because there is no verifiable EVIDENCE, or CORROBORATION of anything astonishing or extraordinary EVER happening at rse, or to anyone ...
- Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:01 am
- Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
- Topic: Sir Robert The Biggest Loser a Casino ever Saw
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14618
Re: Sir Robert The Biggest Loser a Casino ever Saw
We need to start advertising in the same paper for EMF, just to keep the playing field even for people who don't know what and who rse really is. This is the epitome of false advertising. What about the thousands of others who will and have spent their life savings on a degenerate gambling addiction...
- Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:21 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: First move to Yelm, Washington Part 1 Derrick Lee
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8663
Re: First move to Yelm, Washington Part 1 Derrick Lee
Derrick, Thank you and Welcome to EMF. Your post and powerful words struck me like a bolt of lightning. "RSE has brought me very much unnecessary: pain,anguish,sorrow,confusion,fear,bigitry,un-love,un-feeling,anxiety un-rest,un-peace,un-freedom non-harmony, and overall a diversion from the fund...
- Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:27 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Child abuse at RSE The Tank...a disturbing experience
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28567
Re: Child abuse at RSE The Tank...a disturbing experience
Including: Investing in scam after scam, that JZ convinces people will make them rich beyond belief (omega, clustered water, blue vitamins, seawater, her horses, gold coins, etc.). Convincing people to take Prozac to expand their limited minds. Convincing and commanding people to drink red wine, in ...
- Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:53 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Child abuse at RSE The Tank...a disturbing experience
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28567
Re: Child abuse at RSE The Tank...a disturbing experience
In my opinion, based on almost 20 years of rse indoctrination and many years of evaluating those experiences, the only purpose that JZ's 'disciplines' have or ever will have, is to condition a person to follow unquestioningly the words/advice/commands of their 'teacher', detaching critical thought a...
- Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:44 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
Thanks for sharing that Roy, I could relate to everything you had to say and am proud for you to have pulled yourself free the way you have. Your experience and what you share here on EMF is invaluable, giving hope to those in that hopeless place most all of us have been. Thanks again for having the...
- Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:35 am
- Forum: Drug & Alcohol Use at RSE
- Topic: JZKRamtha - Prozac Enlightenment - Dr.Kathy May - Illegal Use - RSE
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16325
Re: Judy Knight / Ramtha recommending abuse of Prozac
Prozac was so common and prevalent at rse that it attained the nickname vitamin p by 'teachers' and 'students' at rse, and on numerous occasions JZ would ask the audience if they were taking their 'vitamin p', encouraging them to do so if they were not. It sickens me and reminds me of the depths of ...
- Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:54 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Here's a comforting thought.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5573
Re: Here's a comforting thought.
I second that thought. Every doomsday scenario or half cocked hair brained scare tactic JZ has ever uttered has not only never come to fruition, but JZ will attach something she said 25 years ago to something that happened yesterday, and in some manipulative way, relate the two even though they aren...
- Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:34 am
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: How did you get Hooked into RSE?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7145
Re: How did you get Hooked into RSE?
Hello and Welcome Sunshine, Your story touched me deeply and I wanted to reiterate what Rooster has said so well, and you are not alone. All of us that have pulled free from rse, and it isn't just simply leaving as some people may think, there is a process, a deliberate, difficult and emotionally ov...
- Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:22 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15257
Re: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
Hi Cheryl, Kenny set up a paypal account for people to supplement his gambling addiction, under the guise of becoming the next 'Henry Sugar'. Most people know that Henry Sugar was a fictional character, created by Roald Dahl as a short story. Because jz/r convinced her audience that Henry Sugar was ...
- Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:39 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15257
Re: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
I agree Cheryl that Kenny could very well be suffering some form of mental illness, and that there are many people who take part at rse that get drawn in, and fall into the cracks of JZ's madness, and I have compassion for those who find themselves caught up in this quagmire by simply wanting to bet...
- Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:06 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15257
Re: Kenny Thompson JZK Shill?
It made me physically ill reading Kenny's BS. He fell flat on his face at that blue college event he speaks of, another one of those times JZ pulls back attention to herself from a student, the same thing she did with Grandma, the same thing she did with The Chiropractor. She finally figured out tha...
- Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:32 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: my last event was on March 2012
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6518
Re: Breakfast for former RSE students
Welcome Dimensions, so glad to see you here. This takes time, lots and lots of time, but it will get better, life will get better. There is so much helpful information on this site to clear the fog of rse and cleanse the poison that is jz knight, so read as much as you can, when you can, and be gent...
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:52 pm
- Forum: Drug & Alcohol Use at RSE
- Topic: JZKRamtha - Prozac Enlightenment - Dr.Kathy May - Illegal Use - RSE
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16325
Re: Judy Knight / Ramtha recommending abuse of Prozac
To command people to lie to Physicians to obtain and consume a powerful anti depressant so they become easier to manipulate, control and deceive is wrong in any language, any culture, any where, and this is EXACTLY what JZ Knight did to her 'students'. Then, she commanded these same people to drink ...
- Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:34 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Merry Christmas Everyone!
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5905
Re: Merry Christmas Everyone!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!May you get everything you need and live happily with love my friends.
- Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:57 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Scamtha and the CIA
- Replies: 20
- Views: 16780
Re: Scamtha and the CIA
For YEARS JZ 'charged' her victims to not watch TV, as the television was full of so many brain washing and manipulation techniques. After looking back at everything JZ 'taught' during this time, you could match her weekly teaching with whatever had been on television the week prior, allowing me to ...
- Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:22 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Everyone has their own problems -
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6497
Re: Everyone has their own problems -
Sad Grandfather, I was heartbroken reading through your journal posts. I know what its like to have people who you love and care for deeply act so selfish and hurtful, so I want you to know that you aren't alone. There are many people here who share your pain and are here to listen and share that bu...
- Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:34 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
Here here West. Vanilla, your posts have helped many, many people , myself included. Your insight, compassion and honestly allow people who come here shattered, the information they need to help start piecing their lives back together again. I know when I first began reading this forum years ago, it...
- Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:43 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10231
Re: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
Hi Ockham, great reply, I just love pulling the wool back from peoples eyes destroying this illusion JZ has built up over pure myth. There isn't 1 SINGLE verifiable fact that there has ever been a ramtha, yet hundreds upon hundreds of excuses and rumors, which take on a life of their own among an ea...
- Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:15 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10231
Re: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
To your point on JZ umming and not acting exactly as 'ramtha', which I watched intently while there, I can give you an example of performers performing, and performers being themselves that may be helpful. Jim Nabors, who played Gomer Pyle on Andy Griffith and then his own show for many years, strug...
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:52 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Guidelines for Posting in this Thread
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7011
Re: Guidelines for Posting in this Thread
I have read, and know this guideline by heart Interested, I would suggest instead of glossing over what you want to highlight and use as justification for your actions, that you re read it. The part about posts proselytizing being deleted without notice in particular.
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:46 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
Interested, You have confused Debate with Proselytizing. This Debate forum is just that, and like I have said before, you are not debating, only advertising your personal lifestyle choice of living a life in JZ Knights nightmarish reality of fear and manipulation. I will not be dictated to by you by...
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:25 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
Interested, I have removed your post. This is a debate forum, and that is not what you are using it for. You are simply spreading your message of how innocent, harmless and helpful JZ and her cult are, and that will not be tolerated, nor will your demeaning and vitriolic posts be tolerated. If you w...
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:57 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
Interested, I am giving you notice, that no more Pro Ramtha/JZ Knight posts will be tolerated further by you. If you insist on posting quotes from JZ Knight or continue flooding your posts with New Aged, Ramtha based ideas, quotes and advice from a proven Sociopath and destroyer of lives, your posts...
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:37 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
Lostinspace, I appreciate that this is a JZK/R RSE Supporters debate forum, and I would love to debate with Interested the merits of rse and jz knights harmful propaganda. Having found none, merits that is, I went directly through the bullshit to question Interested's intent. I know this, from my ma...
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:18 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
Thank you RoyGBiv, Thank you. What you have shared is the exact type of honest self evaluation and thought provoking introspection that drew me to EMF in the first place. What you have shared here WILL help someone in the very near future. I don't know this out of some otherworldly 'feeling', or mys...
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:04 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
Hello Interested, welcome. After reading your posts, it is still unclear to me what you wish to find here. If you find "ramtha" still helpful to you, and live those types of philosophies, and justify JZ Knights deviant behavior, what could we here, at a site created by former students of R...
- Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:42 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Hooked by a celebrity
- Replies: 14
- Views: 12020
Re: Hooked by a celebrity
Very well said RoyGBiv. I truly understand where you are coming from Awaken, as there was a point prior to my recovery process that I felt exactly as you do now. What I can suggest is to read as many posts on this site, and do plenty of research on the honest truth of JZ Knight. What I have found is...
- Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:07 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: In A Moment I Awoke from my slumber
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15915
Re: In A Moment I Awoke from my slumber
Welcome Jingz, I am glad you are here, and thank you for such a thoughtful, emotional post. I look forward to you sharing, and coming together with us in the healing process.
Again, welcome and I am grateful you are here.
Again, welcome and I am grateful you are here.
- Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:04 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Hooked by a celebrity
- Replies: 14
- Views: 12020
Re: Hooked by a celebrity
Hi Awaken and welcome, I am glad you shared your story and have come to EMF. The thing you need to understand about JZ Knight, is that she cares about one person, JZ Knight. I also think that JZ is far more interested in Selma's billionaire husband than she cares about Selma, as JZ is a power hungry...
- Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:33 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: My RSE exit story Cheryl - It is good to be free.
- Replies: 24
- Views: 23809
Re: My exit story
Cheryl, Thank you so much for sharing your story. Your last event was also mine, and I was looking at everything the same way you were. What do they say, great minds? I remember the maid sheet smelling incident, and JZ as ramtha bashing James, who eventually left the arena after the third or fourth ...
- Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:08 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: JZ Knight Ramtha Behind the Mask 1 of 4
- Replies: 30
- Views: 20156
Re: JZ Knight Behind the Mask 1 of 4 - YouTube -
freedom foundation still has them
- Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:56 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Members!
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12892
Re: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Memb
The last thing JZ wants to do is sue, or go to court with Virginia. She knows, as well as we do, that her 'use agreement' isn't worth the paper its printed on, and also knows that the court of public opinion, which will make up any jury, will see through her lies and her ignorant hate filled rants. ...
- Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:16 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Members!
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12892
Re: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Memb
All this heat has got JZ pulling out what is left of her hair. It sucks when someone shines a light on the dark recesses you thought would never be seen in public, by people who think rationally and honestly. And it must really suck, that the public at large, the 'social conscious' JZ berates regula...
- Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:12 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Spirituality imagination
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5981
Re: Spirituality imagination
The FACTS remain: There is not ONE documented case of extraordinary behavior, action, or occurence at rse. Everything you hear is gossip, exaggerations and outright lies. Don't you think that if people were actually doing things outside the bounds of human nature that rse would be more popular than ...
- Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:29 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: New post from Bettye Johnson and reply:
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10755
Re: New post from Bettye Johnson and reply:
Oh Bettye, you poor lost soul, how I do feel for the situation you have gotten yourself into, but it isn't too late for you to save yourself from the clutches of jz and her fools. If you truly feel that there is a ramtha, and that jz is its channel, what is it about an ex student posting videos on a...
- Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:21 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18975
Re: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
The amount of times Phill says: me, I, mine, etc., etc., is an obvious symptom of the selfish and egocentric rse member. Just from personal experience, I was also as self absorbed and self concerned as Phill. For people so self concerned, it never ceases to amaze how ramsters love to throw around wo...
- Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:39 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18975
Re: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
OK Phil, I stopped reading your nonsense about five words in because I know it is some ramthaesque rant that meanders endlessly and tries convincing people how smart you are, so I am going to make this simple. Anyone who reads what you post knows exactly who and where you are, and nobody here is int...
- Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:07 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
- Replies: 33
- Views: 18975
Re: Ramtha, As far as I am concerned it is him.
Phil, I understand where you are, and I have compassion for all the people you have and will hurt with the attitude and behavior you are exhibiting right now. What are you posting here for? If you are so far evolved beyond us ordinary folk, what could we here on this site possibly have to offer such...
- Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:27 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8761
Re: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
Wow, I thought I had seen it all. So JZ has created a site to document the unfounded horseshit that is RSE. I am sure it will fill up with more blurry helicopters, like that one, or grainy orbs that are anything and everything but orbs, BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ORBS. It just goes to show yo...
- Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:14 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8761
Re: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
It sounds to me like Judith is feeling GUILTY Vanilla. She knows how much devastation and despair she has wrought on her masses, so maybe she is understanding that she has some answering to do with a power much greater than herself. When she looks out into her audience, she sees the confusion and lo...
- Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:17 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: From freemind
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4991
Re: From Virginia
Hello freemind and welcome, I wish you the very best with the situation you have found yourself in, it can be very difficult at first, but please know that we are all here with open ears and open hearts, with plenty of experience on what you must be going through right now. Being in a relationship w...
- Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:20 pm
- Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
- Topic: James fired
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12084
Re: James fired
ALL yellow guards have NO affiliation with the school?
I know of at least 2 who were blue college.
I know of at least 2 who were blue college.
- Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:32 am
- Forum: For Children who have moved on from RSE
- Topic: Growing Up
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6535
Re: Growing Up
I really appreciate this topic thread and such thoughtful, emotional posts. I was 23 when I joined rse, and had two small children while I attended. Luckily for me, I never had them come to the ranch, although I did think about it often, while I was lost in the muck and mire of JZ's. I thank my luck...
- Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:22 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: very powerful and it works - is the mirror…
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10152
Re: very powerful and it works - is the mirror…
Here here Robair and Kelku, Its one thing to claim personal experience and a whole other to claim success and power from the ridiculous things that JZ Knight has used to bind and enslave her 'students'. I know there are the excuses that "JZ didn't invent 'mirror work' or 'scrying' or any of her...
- Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:59 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: very powerful and it works - is the mirror…
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10152
Re: very powerful and it works - is the mirror…
Hi Naturegirl, and welcome to EMF. I was curious and concerned about your post on 'mirror work/scrying' or whatever it is called, and your comments on 'Orbs'. On this site, most people are working at detaching themselves from rse/jz knight's harmful practices and everything they experienced there, b...
- Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:22 am
- Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
- Topic: James fired
- Replies: 17
- Views: 12084
Re: James fired
Me too. Which James is it you are speaking of Vanilla? The James I know never worked security either, but as one of JZ's 'builders', and was always by JZ's side because they were a couple.
- Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:11 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: JZ KNIGHT SAYS 2012 doomsday is not happening
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8908
Re: JZ KNIGHT SAYS 2012 doomsday is not happening
This is a typical three hand monte game that JZ has been playing for 30 years now. Since you have everyone scared shitless, confused, desperate and broke, give them a slight reprieve that 2012 doomsday isn't happening; because they changed the timeline of course. As soon as everyone is comfortable a...
- Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:28 pm
- Forum: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at (RSE), a division of JZK Inc.
- Topic: Fire, Health and Safety Violations at RSE posted YouTube Sept 10 2012
- Replies: 20
- Views: 16821
Re: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at RSE YouTube
Anyone who has ever been to an event at Judith's barn know exactly how chaotic, disorganized, and packed liked sardines it becomes. Add to that the smoke of over a thousand people chain smoking pipes, intoxicated from Judith instruction to 'toast' until inebriated, all the while alcohol and prozac p...
- Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:32 pm
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: No Sick Pay and Benefits for RSE staff
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7239
Re: PEOPLE WHO NEVER POST
If you listen to JZ breathe, she sounds exactly like my Grandmother did, who died of lung cancer/emphysema years ago. I think JZ brags about healing lots of things that she either never had in the first place, or says she heals them, only to be truly afflicted the entire time. It wouldn't surprise m...
- Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:22 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: RSE Conditions of Participation Doc Review by U.S. Lawyers
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10152
Re: RSE Conditions of Participation Doc Review by U.S. Lawye
What I really love about this post: RSE Conditions of Participation Doc Review by US Lawyers, is the work David and whoever else may have helped, put into it. I admire that dedication, and in effect, the heart and pluck of people who give of themselves in this way. I find a kindred soul in those who...
- Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:55 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: RSE Conditions of Participation Doc Review by U.S. Lawyers
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10152
Re: RSE Conditions of Participation Doc Review by U.S. Lawye
LMAO, ROTFLOL.
Yes Virginia, that is exactly how that would read.
Yes Virginia, that is exactly how that would read.
- Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:57 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Eddie
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7230
Re: From Virginia
Welcome Eddie, I appreciate your posts and thank you for sharing your story. I know what its like to leave RSE and hold onto things I have learned there, but view what it is and what good it serves in a different vain. I concede that the entire thing, JZ/Ramtha/RSE is a soul draining, pocket emptyin...
- Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:19 am
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: Steven Wienberg Interview July 1 2008
- Replies: 9
- Views: 21863
Re: Steven Wienberg Interviews David McCarthy July 1 2008
I think Ockham and Rooster have it pretty well nailed down. What I remember was JZ saying, "If Einstein was a woman, and not preoccupied by sex (sexual thoughts, desire, male perversion, etc.), that he would have ascended." This sums it up for me where JZ stands in reference to sex, that i...
- Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:26 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: JZ Knight/Ramtha Merv Grifin Show P2 1985 - YouTube
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4756
Re: JZ Knight/Ramtha Merv Grifin Show P2 1985 - YouTube
This was a huge eye opener for me five years ago when I first saw it. I couldn't get over her seeming lack of the English language, and I always thought that her; as it were indeeds, and so be its, and in your times, and all the other filler words, were just that, FILLER. Spaces that she couldn't fi...
- Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:09 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: How Do I Tell My RSE Friends That JZK / Ramtha is Fake?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 13966
Re: How Do I Tell My RSE Friends That JZK / Ramtha is Fake?
Great job UKGirl. Time, for me anyway, made things better, and I have made more friends in the last 3 years than I have lost from rse. Also, I understand now how shallow and 'unloving' those relationships really were. For me, they were based on a foundation of dishonesty and great falsehoods. While ...
- Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:52 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Guess who also sold her soul to 'Rain Man'
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6024
Re: Guess who also sold her soul to 'Rain Man'
Here Here David. Lets keep it as simple as it is: JZ Knight is and has always been, since her early creation of 'ramtha' in the 70's, a manipulative charlatan, eager and willing to prey on other human's desire to better themselves. She feeds on the financial gain and intoxicating sense of power she ...
- Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:30 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Understanding the attraction to religion after RSE
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4823
Re: Understanding the attraction to religion after RSE
Thank you Kensho for sharing such a personal and heart felt post. It touched me, and I totally relate to detaching myself from past religious experiences and morality, only to come to the understanding that I was on to something all along. I too have welcomed back those ideals of selflessness, consc...
- Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:09 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: How Do I Tell My RSE Friends That JZK / Ramtha is Fake?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 13966
Re: How Do I Tell My RSE Friends That JZK / Ramtha is Fake?
Hello and Welcome UKGirl!!!! It was wonderful to read your post and be reminded by your example that others WILL SEE THROUGH the giant illusion that JZ Knight has created. I am very proud and inspired by you, and all of us who have pulled ourselves clear of rse's treachery. The responses you have re...
- Sat May 19, 2012 3:52 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Remote viewing; what are the odds?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4202
Re: Remote viewing; what are the odds?
There are more blue stars on the walls of JZ's 'great hall' than anything else it seemed to me. There was a time that I thought this really meant something, but understand now how much of a coincidence it really is. The color blue and trees also permeate the walls, as they are the most common guesse...
- Thu May 10, 2012 6:16 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: courageous memoir by Kate B
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7276
Re: courageous memoir by Kate B
I remember at least 3 people that JZ claimed were reincarnated from the Dalai Lama, and at least two who she claimed were William Wallace. She would get so drunk she couldn't remember who she gave what title, or when for that matter. It just goes to show you, JZ Knight is fully aware of hooking peop...
- Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:37 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: JZK loses trademark lawsuit - JZK, INC. v. JOSEPH G 1994
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5207
Re: JZ Knight loses defamation and trademark lawsuit 1994
IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can begin to "channel" ramtha, and my message would be: JZ Knight has never had my permission to speak on my behalf. It is obvious, being omniscient, that JZ Knight does not and has not ever known me, or what I am about, as I have been an Orthodox Jew my entire lifeti...
- Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:49 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Brainwashed to death?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9049
Re: Brainwashed to death?
Very well said Kensho and thank you for your thoughtful response. I still am working through the guilt associated with my time at RSE, and am far from the person I was two years ago, but there is still work to be done on my part. Thanks again for such a well thought out post. It really is helpful fo...
- Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:20 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Brainwashed to death?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9049
Re: Brainwashed to death?
Great posts. I have always been a compassionate person, from the time I was a little child, seeing a human or animal in pain, physical or emotional, would touch the part of me that wanted to help in some way, even if that way meant only to be a shoulder to cry on, or the ears to listen, I wanted to ...
- Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:23 pm
- Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
- Topic: Do any of these people actually believe their own BS?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 9102
Re: when JZ dies, then what?
I have spent a lot of time in and around Livingston/Bozeman Montana, the Paradise Valley, where one of CUT's main bunker/churches is at. What surprised me, was the very similar attitude that non CUT and non RSE members of the community have towards the cults, and it seems to be one of "out of s...
- Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:40 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
Too funny. I remember a 'discipline' JZ made up for blue college in about 1995. She had them all blindfolded, duct taped, ears plugged, etc. and then driven or walked into the brushy woods there on the property. Every single person, including several of my friends ended up with serious cuts, gashes,...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:37 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
:lol: I don't think that is sexist Vanilla. It fits. Early on when I first joined EMF, I was hypersensitive to all things jz/rse, and felt extreme unease even reading ramster material, so I know for people who are new here, and just shedding their post cult layers, many things may trigger an emotion...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:20 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
Thank you Vanilla for clearing that up. I understand the dilemma of ramtha said/jz said, it was the same as when I was under her spell and any time you would say she, ramsters would jump on you correcting you with a stern "HE SAID!", or "RAMTHA SAID!" I appreciate your posting Va...
- Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:50 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
No kidding West. I had a question of Vanilla. In your post you state, "Ramtha himself", as if there is such a being. Do you still believe that there is, or ever was a 'ramtha'? Also, even with all the evidence to the contrary, do you believe that people can use their 'ramtha powers' to 're...
- Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:18 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
Kenny can see in 'ultraviolet' and 'hertizan' (as jz likes to call it), but he can't stop smoking like a chimney, cussing like a sailor and drinking like a drunk. I question Kenny's 'abilities' because I know how full of shit he is, and how he would do anything to gain favor in JZ's eyes, including ...
- Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:04 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE alternative to humanity's future
- Replies: 22
- Views: 12057
Re: RSE alternative to humanity's future
Jaime memorized the cards just like I did, and just like every other person that memorized 52 scratches, matching them to their suit and number. He knows whats going to happen to him no more than I do, or anyone else for that matter. Its amazing what holds sway to JZ's brood, and if he gets too far ...
- Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:44 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: SO BE IT!!
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4587
Re: SO BE IT!!
In many languages, Amen translates loosely as 'so be it', Hebrew, Arabic, etc. Its typical JZ Knight, to take something many people use in an honorable way and steal it for her manipulative cause. It is no different than the Nazi salute Hitler stole from the Ancient Romans, for use in his Reich. Any...
- Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:40 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: USA news outlet picks up on MIVILUDES story
- Replies: 23
- Views: 12958
Re: USA news outlet picks up on MIVILUDES story
Way to be on top of it David! You notice how quick Mike Wright is to use the 'cult' word when it is in some way beneficial to JZ. I believe it was JZ who said people that use the word 'cult' use it to defame or slander people with its use. Mike sure was quick to throw it around to separate rse and j...
- Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:50 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: DEEP Thoughts by Ramtha May 21 2004
- Replies: 2
- Views: 5447
Re: DEEP Thoughts by Ramtha May 21 2004
In the next breath she says, the only thing a god can't do, is make someone love someone else. So the list of things a god can't do grows, depending upon what JZ has read or saw on the History channel that week.
- Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:44 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ramtha quotes 2004 from notes
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8431
Re: Ramtha quotes 2004 from notes
That should be enough for people to understand what an incoherent contradictory flimflammer JZ Knight is. In the many years of notes I had acquired and reread year after year, searching for its meaning, I could never find it, because she says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with a thousand words, and contradicts...
- Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:28 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Rse discounts for children watching the stream
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7458
Re: Rse discounts for children watching the stream
It is disgusting and reprehensible what JZ is doing. I do understand though, listening to hours of JZ's drunken, incoherent tirades, searching for meaning in meaninglessness, because I did it for years. I would decipher my notes like some crazed grad student cramming for finals, thinking that if I c...
- Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:44 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Robert Hoffman owner of RSE....?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11950
Re: Robert Hoffman owner of RSE....?
LMAO, that brightened my day David. Thank you
- Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:37 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: My partner fell into the cult behind my back.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6365
Re: My partner fell into the cult behind my back.
Welcome Prudence. I am sorry to hear of your relationship, as I experienced something very similar, except decided to follow my 'partner' into rse, only to be left for someone "with more virtue": her excuse for wanting to be with someone else. HUGE MISTAKE. Although I believe she was doing...
- Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:12 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: feeling a bit lost and confused
- Replies: 46
- Views: 26418
Re: feeling a bit lost and confused
In the first few months after leaving rse, 'c and e' was definitely a trigger. For 8 years, almost every single morning and evening, I would do 'c and e', create my day, etc...etc... I had made it such a part of my life, and was so habitually transfixed on it that months after leaving, as I would wa...
- Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:40 am
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: Liar Liar JZ Knight Ramtha vist (EMF) for the Truth
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9289
Re: Liar Liar JZ Knight Ramtha vist (EMF) for the Truth
Propaganda 101. Man shes got some creepy people working for her.
- Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:20 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: feeling a bit lost and confused
- Replies: 46
- Views: 26418
Re: feeling a bit lost and confused
Welcome Outonalimb. I am very happy you have found us, and many here can relate to the overwhelming emotional rollercoaster that leaving rse can have on us. Please, for your sanity's sake and the sake of your happiness, know that we here truly care, empathize and understand what you are experiencing...
- Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:00 am
- Forum: Omega: It Never Paid. The David Hudson swindle and other RSE scams and shills
- Topic: Original News Tribune article from 2004 on the Omega scam
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7919
Re: Original News Tribune article from 2004 on the Omega sca
Hey Ockham, is there a link to that Greg Simmons in 'wake up' clip......would love to see that.
- Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:18 am
- Forum: Omega: It Never Paid. The David Hudson swindle and other RSE scams and shills
- Topic: The David Hudson swindle at RSE - White Powder Gold - Sea 11 water
- Replies: 18
- Views: 17621
Re: The David Hudson MLM swindle at RSE
Welcome RbtBruneau. I am very glad to see you here. I encourage you to post as much as you need to, and as often as you need to. I know when I first found EMF it was like Christmas morning reading all the posts and seeing myself in most all of them. The revelations kept coming and coming. What I hav...
- Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:46 am
- Forum: Omega: It Never Paid. The David Hudson swindle and other RSE scams and shills
- Topic: Clyde Hood - Wikipedia (Omega, It Never Paid)
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5622
Re: Clyde Hood - Wikipedia (Omega, It Never Paid)
Great post CD. Wiki needs one correction that I know of personally and that is the fact that Hood stopped accepting clients in 1995. He was still accepting money well into 1996 and maybe even into 1997 under the name Omega. I'm not sure how to do corrections or add on Wiki but I will look into it an...
- Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:26 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Legal actions against RSE Step 3
- Replies: 20
- Views: 12481
Re: RSE Student Deaths Thread 2
I understand what both you, David and Joe, are saying here, and it is quite a conundrum. On one hand, here is JZ Knight, purposefully exploiting her 'students', some to death, but no one is holding a gun to their heads, according to the legal system. On the other hand, rse is a direct cause of the p...
- Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:59 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Diane Glock died in the RSE parking lot - RSE Student Deaths
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11061
Re: RSE Student Deaths Thread 2
Greg used to be the great claimer of all the healings and magical success of the 'disciplines', but whenever questioned about 'results', his pat answer has always, and will continue to be, "We aren't in the business of 'proving'". Which to any logical person means, there is no proof, there...
- Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:47 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Diane Glock died in the RSE parking lot - RSE Student Deaths
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11061
Re: RSE Student Deaths Thread 2
"She wanted to die." This is the callous explanation, interpretation, that ramsters will label this poor lost woman's death. This, to me anyway, is a searing indictment of jz's perverted and often belittling perspective of this woman's entire life. Who she really was, all the good she ever...
- Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:16 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: My Friend has been involved with RSE for about 20 years - Help
- Replies: 44
- Views: 22541
Re: New Friend
This is a great thread. Sandy, I don't know if its wishful thinking or not to expect your friend to act like one, if this is what you are asking. I know this tho. My friends that are still part of rse, I only speak with on a yearly basis, if that, and it is never a real conversation, always empty ba...
- Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:13 pm
- Forum: Drug & Alcohol Use at RSE
- Topic: RSE Prozac has now stopped, but the wine ceremonies
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8307
Re: RSE Prozac has now stopped, but the wine ceremonies have
JZ, while faking her ramtha persona, delivered an hours long wine ceremony where she instructed blue college to begin taking Prozac. She went on for several hours, using her photographic memory to relay the prescription drug information on Prozac and other ssri's, claiming "Vitamin P's" 'g...
- Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:51 pm
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: My Friend has been involved with RSE for about 20 years - Help
- Replies: 44
- Views: 22541
Re: New Friend
Hello Sandy, and welcome. I apologize for taking so long to respond. As far as JZ's demands and requirements on the 'students', logic takes a back seat to control and manipulation. Logic, common sense and 'reality' are the first things that JZ separates newcomers from, as this makes molding a ration...
- Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:28 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: My Friend has been involved with RSE for about 20 years - Help
- Replies: 44
- Views: 22541
Re: New Friend
Hello Everyone, Ockham, check out Powell's Book's website in Portland, Oregon for 'From the Mundane to the Magnificent'. Last time I was in there they had two copies. Welcome Sandy, and let me just say that I wish you the best as far as your friendship is concerned. Speaking as a former member of th...
- Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:17 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Yelm
- Replies: 26
- Views: 14005
Re: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Ye
Thank you Rooster. There is hope for them all, even though JZ has most of them so baffled with bullshit that filtering out control and manipulation from reason, is at times, impossible.
- Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:41 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Yelm
- Replies: 26
- Views: 14005
Re: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Ye
So it isn't 'The Days To Come' any longer, now it is 'The Days That Are Here', wow. I am reminded of all the justifications I made for JZ's 'prognostications' and lies, just as this woman does in her article. Every time someone questioned JZ or my belief system at the time, I had a pat answer for al...
- Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:49 pm
- Forum: All Things EMF - Researching the Ramtha Cult? Use our EMF Search Engine
- Topic: Occupy RSE Inc
- Replies: 42
- Views: 19496
Re: Occupy RSE Inc
I LOVE IT! Brilliant David! You are gonna go up a notch on JZ's poop list, and I will join you by placing them all over Yelm next weekend.
- Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:59 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: new signs
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10012
Re: new signs
GREAT SIGN DAVID!! I would love to see them plastered around Yelm and the surrounding areas. Brilliant idea. Thank you freemysoul Hopefully someone close to Yelm will take the initiative :idea: EMF would place it in the Yelm local paper if the editor had some backbone.. But just the same as JZ knig...
- Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:00 am
- Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
- Topic: Is RSE A Cult? thread 2
- Replies: 19
- Views: 13025
Re: Is RSE A Cult? thread 2
Knowingness to me when I was involved with rse meant I had blocked out anything and everything from my mind, becoming completely single minded on one idea or object so as to 'bring' that thing into my life, putting aside doubt, or any other thought contrary to that desire. With the help of time and ...
- Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:24 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ramtha said there are some people doing the walk for evil
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6162
Re: Ramtha said there are some people doing the walk for evi
The "evil" is only "evil" when JZ Knight has a use for it. In this case, I am willing to bet she wasn't getting the reaction she wanted from her 'students' and felt the reins slipping away so to speak. So, as she does when she throws out the old "The Sky is Falling!!!!!!!!!!...
- Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:27 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: No one would listen to the teachings if
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6042
Re: No one would listen to the teachings if
When I started to hear about RSE in the mid/early nineties, the internet was not nearly as common or massive as it is today, so when I did a search back then on RSE and JZ, most search results were positive feedback, or links to its site, which was brand new at the time. The same search today brings...
- Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:47 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Jz has a new man? One of her employees?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13974
Re: Jz has a new man? One of her employees?
This post is almost straight out of Globe magazine, or The National Enquirer. Only from rse and JZ could such deprivation and disgusting defects of character be so common and universal. JZ is spiteful, and thrives on drama. What a better way to stir up shit, and cause chaos, then to create turmoil i...
- Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:25 pm
- Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
- Topic: Is RSE A Cult? thread 2
- Replies: 19
- Views: 13025
Re: Is RSE A Cult? thread 2
First of all, thanks Joe for all the great info. The word 'cult' should be clearly defined so people don't have more misunderstanding and confusion in an already complicated arena. With all the double speak and the generally misleading nature of rse, it is refreshing to have an incontrovertible expl...
- Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:36 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Ramtha School New BS Prediction 2011
- Replies: 34
- Views: 17937
Re: Ramtha School New BS Prediction 2011
In one breath Ben speaks of how overloaded and 'hungover' he is, and the next line saying just how this information 'overload' has 'tied everything together' for him. God that sounds so familiar, all that double talk, like 'teacher' like 'student' I suppose. If you don't at least pretend to understa...
- Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:01 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: RSE Indoctrination diagrams circa 1991
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9768
Re: RSE Indoctrination diagrams circa 1991
Wow, this brought back such vivid memories. I remember too what stock I put in all that rubbish. The imagery and ideas were so beautiful and mystical to me at one time, and I protected them as if they were holy. Looking back now on these images, I can't fathom how such meaningless dogma could hold m...
- Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:24 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Ramtha School New BS Prediction 2011
- Replies: 34
- Views: 17937
Re: Ramtha School New BS Prediction 2011
Ten years from now, JZ, or someone in her stead, will be proselytizing on another doomsday scenario that is too vague to mean anything and just scary enough to get her 'students' attention, AGAIN. This exact drama has played out repeatedly for 25 plus years now, and for many of her 'students', it ha...
- Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:57 pm
- Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
- Topic: Is RSE A Cult? thread 1.
- Replies: 128
- Views: 78016
Re: Is RSE A Cult?
Vanilla, That's probably the best use those cards ever got, you actually having fun with them and using them as they were intended to be used. I remember feeling the same way about all my 'rse' crap. I looked at the white book as if it were a bible for years. I am so grateful to be free of the fear ...
- Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:47 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: RSE "RED GUARD" The Stanford prison experiment.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5990
Re: RSE "RED GUARD" The Stanford prison experiment.
Great article David. I remember vividly the difference in attitude and actions of the 'red guard' that took place between my beginner event, and the first assay I took part of. At my beginners, they were comforting, supportive, and took time to answer questions and even chat friendly at times. Howev...
- Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:13 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: JZK scheduled on Coast to Coast Sunday night, August 14.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10144
Re: JZK scheduled on Coast to Coast Sunday night, August 14.
With the way the 'students' emulate and follow JZ Knights every whim, its eerie and foreboding that JZ is soooo cheery about her own demise. This sets a disgusting precedent for her followers to be soooo happy and comfortable about their own deaths and leads too what I have been fearful of for years...
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:03 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: Business advice from a Ramtha Student to Another
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3840
Re: Business advice from a Ramtha Student to Another
Hi Vanilla, It could be just another justification he has made, the 'ram students don't have any money' part. I made many honest assessments while a 'student' while still believing in the bulk of malarkey I was told so its not a huge leap to think that this man knows that current students are mostly...
- Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:46 am
- Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
- Topic: master connection pseudo-science
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9923
Re: master connection pseudo-science
Well said Grandfather, if your community absolves itself of all personal liability and responsibility, the whole while running around like chicken little screaming 'the sky is falling', it sure as hell isn't a community I would want to live in, let alone be neighbors with. As far as the 'masters con...
- Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:57 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Tidalwave
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8282
Re: Tidalwave
Thanks for the reply Joe, very insightful and helpful. It goes to the heart of the thread of hope and belief I had about rse/ramtha when I was there. It really all stemmed from the idea of the magical, and the possibility of their 'discipline' providing results. Regardless of the few truths sprinkle...
- Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:04 pm
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Tidalwave
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8282
Re: Tidalwave
Great post Joe. This reminds me of finding my cards. Before that point, I was questioning everything RSE, doubting, and had many unanswered questions. I told myself that I would give this card thing 100%, and if it didn't pan out, I would leave this sham behind, and think nothing more of it. The pro...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:26 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: The latest in Yelm?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4246
Re: The latest in Yelm?
Vanilla, my heart goes out to you. I understand that feeling of betrayal and distrust very well. I would be curious to see the things you have found on OMEGA, I lost thousands on that one. I wish you well, and appreciate your posts and honesty.
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:21 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
- Replies: 43
- Views: 20631
Re: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say fare
So much for the PAST not existing Indigo. If your posts, and returning to the "PAST" to check on responses isn't indication enough, you will never see it, but maybe you don't want to. I sincerely wish you all the best in whatever your future endeavors may be, and as far as your 'process' i...
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:10 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: JZ Knight and Psychology Today
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3919
Re: JZ Knight and Psychology Today
If that woman had any idea who she was talking to she would have ran for the hills. JZ bashed psychologist and psychiatrist HARD in the mid 90's, and called them clever filthy names. Now all of a sudden she has concern for our youth's 'psychological' well being? She's probably found a way to make mo...
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:44 pm
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Adios Mother
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11409
Re: Adios Mother
Hello Adios Mother, Welcome. Your post was touching and familiar. Thank you for sharing such a private painful experience and for so eloquently doing so. I hope you can find healing here, I know in the beginning for me, it helped just to know that people were listening and those people cared. Thank ...
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:17 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: THE LAST STREAM
- Replies: 18
- Views: 10547
Re: THE LAST STREAM
I think if Ockham's post is reread, they aren't calling W.E. anything.
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:00 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
- Replies: 43
- Views: 20631
Re: Does thought create reality: I want to say farewell
Hi W.E., I hope this answers your question. I think everyone should respond however they deem fit. Live and let live works great when someone leaves sincerely and with good tidings, and there is nothing wrong with responding in kind. I don't find Indigo's post as such, and think anyone who reads it ...
- Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:43 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
- Replies: 43
- Views: 20631
Re: Does thought create reality
Lost, You and I see Indigo's posts differently and I would agree with Marie. Whatever grace, dignity and blessings were there were definitely tempered with their philosophical beliefs and unrealistic views of reality. Its rather easy and childish in my opinion to 'have to have the last word', especi...
- Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:43 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
- Replies: 43
- Views: 20631
Re: Does thought create reality
"The past does not exist". REALLY? No delusion involved? REALLY? Indigo, from my perspective, and the majority of the human population, the past is VERY REAL, and VERY TANGIBLE. To be specific, I ate garlic chicken pizza last night, and have the same gas I get every time I eat garlic chick...
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:20 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Justtruth, In your most recent comment: It is a crucial time to help others especially with this timeline of 2012 hanging over Our heads. I say that because I am not clear of the indoctrination of it and I am concerned of the actions Of others, what they might do if they haven't done everything R sa...
- Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:39 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Thank you to everyone who has posted. This thread has been the most challenging I have experienced and have learned much because of it. I thank you Robair for your heartfelt post and take your advice on a solution to this issue. Agreeing to disagree is a noble and thoughtful solution. Although there...
- Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:38 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Although I disagree with AD60's assessment of my posts, I do agree with you about one thing. I think we alllllllllll need to carefully re-read the relevant posts and re-think/re-perceive our positions here. -- I know I will, 'cause I'm just not seeing/hearing what you are. Posts involving JZ's destr...
- Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:39 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
This is a site for open discussion and debate on the experiences and opinions of former/current rse students and loved ones who have been abused by JZ Knight and rse. Lets not confuse this open discussion and debate with being judgmental or close minded. If there is a disagreement or a question over...
- Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:05 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: i am new and so confused about so many things..........
- Replies: 24
- Views: 13087
Re: i am new and so confused about so many things..........
Thank you iamgod17 for your honesty. For me, it was a very dark time, and not one that I like to rehash, but I know that in my experience there are things that may be helpful to others that are questioning this whole experience, for it is a complex and very emotional one, and after years of being to...
- Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:33 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: THE LAST STREAM
- Replies: 18
- Views: 10547
Re: THE LAST STREAM
Thanks for the post Vanilla, was this the second half of the 17 hour post, or a new one? I remember when JZ started wearing those stupid R hats with the torn fronts that sold for 45 dollars at qc, or the R cards that came out as soon as card mapping became all the rage selling for 20 dollars a pack....
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:49 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: A MUCH SAFER PLACE than where they were...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8814
Re: A MUCH SAFER PLACE than where they were...
Thank you AD60, I hadn't thought about the cards on the chest thing, and you are right, that does reek of social conscious, look at me, I'm better than you. I think for me as a beginner, this was the beginning of separation of people, like in high school, that I experienced. "Wow, they are sooo...
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:43 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: A MUCH SAFER PLACE than where they were...
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8814
Re: A MUCH SAFER PLACE than where they were...
I agree, it is a very crappy thing to scare people into moving here, and then leave them out to dry, but JZ has been doing that for 25 plus years now, so the Japanese are just her most recent 'victims'. As far as JZ Knight remote viewing anything, just check her track record, and not the one rse lik...
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:32 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
I hope you don't stay off any of the forums Lostinspace, your opinion, and posts are very valuable, and definitely make me think and see perspectives that I might not of, so I hope you continue to post. I understand that there are things people are going to want to hold onto that they got at rse, I ...
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:33 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
Lostinspace, Not to split hairs either, what exactly did you find regrettable or distressing? I had an opinion, I stated it, and Justtruth and I disagree, I don't see the regret or distress in that. I am sure if you wanted to, there are thousands of lines in the White Book you could quote also, and ...
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:50 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
Justtruth, I may not know what you feel or think, but I can surmise through your posts and come to a conclusion based on what you've placed in them when you post things like: Once again, thank you Indigo I like what you said, it puts you in a conscious state to create On one of the next to last stre...
- Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:06 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
JZ Knight is a butcher of souls, who bleeds people emotionally, physically and financially, so I equate her with people like Osama Bin Laden and Charles Manson and have nothing but disdain for her. The feeling, or lack there of I hold towards JZ Knight, stems from her continuing abuse towards her 's...
- Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:35 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
Justtruth, What does when you started posting have to do with anything, weren't you posting 4 years ago as beautifulmind? Also, I am not attacking you, merely questioning the wisdom of accepting anything, especially advise on love, from a person as deviant and shady as JZ Knight purporting to be 'ra...
- Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:47 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
Justtruth, I can appreciate your opinion, and in the second line of my post, that is exactly what I did, ask you. Maybe if you reread it you can see that I was asking what you meant, not telling you. I understand what its like to hold onto the things you find helpful to you, and I completely support...
- Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:28 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
I just want it to be clear Joe, your post was one that I had no problem at all with, and you are consistently helpful to myself, and I know others. Your insight has helped me make that transition from delusional cult follower, to happily recovering cult follower and it was the video of you at the pa...
- Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:29 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ramtha is our movie star our idol
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4596
Re: Ramtha is our movie star our idol
For those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear, the truth is out, JZ Knight is a con cult leader that preys on people for her own personal gain.
- Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:18 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36925
Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?
Justtruth, when you say things in posts like you did above, I find it irrational and perplexing. You say that 'in a sober moment ramtha said', yet, I am at a loss as to what that exactly means. When you say things like this, is it that you are cherry picking what JZ says that feels right to you, and...
- Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:41 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Another doomsday cult story
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12881
Re: Another doomsday cult story
I have had a couple friends come to the school with disease, one with diabetes and the other chronic asthma. After becoming current and attending several events, they became convinced that c and e and focus would replace their medications, and they both stopped taking doctor prescribed meds. Both ha...
- Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:57 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: here is another perspective
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7749
Re: here is another perspective
Thanks iamgod17, I sincerely appreciate your posts and understand your perspective as well. Thank you for your insight also, as it will be of much help to many people here. I would feel the same way if my parents were abusive towards me, and wouldn't subject myself to that either. Again, thanks for ...
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:37 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: here is another perspective
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7749
Re: here is another perspective
Very well put AD60 and ex. I have a hard time holding my tongue when someone starts with ramthaspeak iamgod17, and I am sure you mean well. Its just that every bit of that philosophy has been tainted. Everything JZ has ever said as Ramtha was meant to control people out of 'fear', 'love', 'jealousy'...
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:14 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Is RSE just one big MKULTRA experiment??????????????????
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5920
- Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:56 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: i am new and so confused about so many things..........
- Replies: 24
- Views: 13087
Re: i am new and so confused about so many things..........
iamgod17, I sincerely appreciate your honesty and your posts. I completely understand what you say when you talk of 'ramtha's older teachings', yet have a polar opposite view on that subject. If I understand your posts so far, you still believe there was and still is a 'ramtha', that he is who he sa...
- Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:11 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 45000
Re: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?
The red flags for me were many and from early on. You must suspend all rational thought, all common sense, and most all preconceived ideas about anything you thought you knew in order to be a part of JZ's circus. I would have to say, the idea of JZ channeling Ramtha was the biggest red flag for me. ...
- Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:50 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Vanda Boone murder
- Replies: 14
- Views: 14041
Re: Vanda Boone murder
Although I agree that Vanda was happy to be in Yelm, I can tell you that she left many things behind. I knew Vanda and some of the other people she associated with, and had dinner with them on a couple of occasions. Vanda moved to Yelm because of what JZ Knight has told anyone willing to listen. &qu...
- Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:40 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: Just need to say
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18393
Re: Just need to say
Thank you Ockham for putting that article back up. I know it is on here somewhere else, but this was a refreshing reminder. That article is one of the best and most accurate accounts I have read of RSE, overall I found it very accurate and unbiased. It is kind of dated, and it would be great if the ...
- Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:25 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: 17 HOUR EVENT
- Replies: 19
- Views: 10318
Re: 17 HOUR EVENT
1.829 AU is 1.829 Astronomical units or 273,614,742 Kilometers. I have a hard time accepting any numbers, or scientific data from someone who swears by JZ Knight's ignorance, so I am willing to bet they are just numbers he has plugged into an equation that JZ read in Scientific Weekly recently.
- Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:13 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: Just need to say
- Replies: 30
- Views: 18393
Re: Just need to say
Great topic and posts. What I read here are peoples personal opinions based on their personal experiences. I know for me, there were wonderful times that I had at RSE, in that, there is no doubt. I also had wonderful times at keggers in high school, and rock concerts surrounded by pot. Just because ...
- Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:29 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7634
Re: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
The moment I approach RSE or JZ in conversation with current ramster friends, it always goes to the same place. My friends will tell me that I just don't understand because my doubt and questioning have clouded my opinion. They also revert to the old standby: "Thats your truth." I haven't ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:48 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Ramtha on-line auction
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5877
Re: Ramtha on-line auction
Very well said Seriously. This "one on one private session" scam that JZ has going is another one of her huge money makers, along with the 'ramtha feasts' JZ puts on more and more frequently. From what I have heard from friends who still are part of RSE, the people who attend the one on on...
- Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:27 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Heartbroken after involvement with an Ramtha devotee
- Replies: 28
- Views: 20713
Re: Heartbroken after involvement with an Ramtha devotee
Hello Ponysong, thank you for your posts and perspective, it is very much appreciated and touched me deeply as I too was involved romantically with an RSE member. I can say that with time, it does get better, and especially with the help I have found here at EMF, life gets back to being wonderful an...
- Tue May 31, 2011 9:07 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Conspiracy theory fuel - Yelm water spat and Sally Paulsen
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9105
Re: Conspiracy theory fuel - Yelm water spat and Sally Pauls
Ramtha, or better JZ pretending ramtha, wouldn't last 5 minutes as a witness in a court of law, and JZ knows this, thats why it will never happen. Just imagining the line of questioning a good lawyer would put her through must give her nightmares, this is why she distanced herself from the sexual ab...
- Fri May 27, 2011 5:30 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: JZ Knights Sally Paulsen comments
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4698
JZ Knights Sally Paulsen comments
I just read on JZ Knight's website, her response to Sally Paulsen's death, and am both disgusted and taken aback at her audacity. What really gets me is that I have heard JZ Knight's take on death, and I know what she really thinks. So to have her use her website to protect her image and product is ...
- Fri May 27, 2011 4:50 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Sally Paulsen: Suspicious death in Yelm
- Replies: 18
- Views: 11979
Re: Suspicious death in Yelm
"Why would she create that for herself? Oh well, maybe in her next life, because of this experience, she will watch her step. So be it, she got exactly what she wanted from this life, learned what she needed to and was ready for the next one." Sadly, these are the comments floating around ...