The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

Hey Mr. Wizard, thanks for the heads-up. I am very curious to know whether this guy was influenced by anything besides a movie about an alien invasion... But for know I just hope that he doesn't harm any more people or himself.

Thanks Freemysoul, Lostinspace and Ex for your understanding. I agree that this discussion has shown how difficult it is to navigate in words when it comes to RSE. Scamtha's twisted ideas about various concepts, such as the concept 'victim', are present in the back of our minds and so it is logical ...

Reading the reactions of Freemysoul, Ex and Lostinspace, I get the impression that they automatically assume that my view of myself as not having been victimized by RSE comes from Scamtha's teachings regarding the concept 'victim'. I just would like to make it clear here that this is not the case. I...

Yes David, I believe dat when I joined RSE I was more easily tricked or deceived than I am today. The way I see it, I am the one responsible for my life and my actions and no one else. If I had been more discerning then, I could have seen the BS RSE is really about right from the start - after all t...

In reaction to freemysoul's post: I have no problem with calling myself gullible, because that is - to me at least - exactly what I was when I joined RSE. And that is what I tried to communicate in my previous post in this thread. So, maybe we can agree on the fact that we have a different view of t...

Hi Hotdog, Just want to let you know that I sympathize with what you must be going through. My mother became an RSE student more than 10 years ago, so I know what it feels like to have a loved one join RSE. For a while I joined RSE too, one of the reasons for that being that I thought that I would n...

Hi Robair, Nice to finally 'meet' you and congratulations on this big step. I know it must have been a difficult decision for you. When I became a member of this message board I thought about this too, but then decided to use my real name right from the start. But for me that was an easy choice, sin...

You have said it very well Sad Grandfather: people who fall for Scamtha's BS do so, because they hear what they want to hear. I know from personal experience: I fell for it, because I was at a point in my life where I really wanted this stuff to be the truth. Looking back now, I can see with perfect...

Thanks Oldone. Well, the statement from RSE that RSE does not believe the world will end in 2012 is a lie. JZ/Ramtha has been going on for years about severe, radical changes coming around that time: earth changes in the form of huge floods and superstorms, the collapse of the financial system, wars...

Hi everyone, In addition to David's post with the Ramtha quotes from the white book, I would like to add that in the 1999 hardcover edition (published by JZK, Inc) of the white book these quotes can be found on pages 135-136. So, not finding the quotes on the pages David mentioned does not mean that...

Indeed, I agree with what Freemysoul has said: I did not have to pay David for this site or for sharing his experiences. Also, I have never caught David preaching or declaring that he's got the ultimate truth (if such a thing exists). Also, I cannot recall that he has ever endorsed disrespect to peo...

Exactly freemysoul, very well put! So this evening I will drink a glass of champagne to celebrate the new year AND the end of CSE.

There, Reading your reply shows me that you are apparently - from your point of view - really sincere in that what you present as proof actually is what I meant when I asked for proof. So first of all I'll say that I do appreciate that you did not just ignore or brush off my request, but made an eff...

Hi There, I have seen the orb-photographs (and have taken a fair share of them myself, with my digital camera) and what I see on them are balls of light, some with patterns in them and some without. That's it. And that is also the only fact there is. When it comes to the question of what they are, i...

Hi There, Why do you need to believe in demons? I just don't get it. Do you have proof of your claims that demon(orb)s exist? If so, I'd like to see it. A guess tells me however that you do not have such proof, because the simple truth is that demons do not exist, except in the minds of humans. In o...

Hi everyone,

I just came across this link:

CHILDREN'S SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE CLOSES - LEAVES REMARKABLE LEGACY
http://yelm.com/2010/12/childrens-schoo ... nce-4.html

Well, that depends on how one defines 'remarkable' I guess..

Very good news as far as I am concerned.

WONDERFUL!!! Thanks so much and a wonderful christmas & new year to you.

Wow, I didn't know about Derren Brown until I read these posts. I checked out the videos and that blew me away. What a great approach, insightful, funny and, to be honest, also a bit embarassing (in a good sense though) in that it made me realize (again) how gullible, how easy to manipulate I am whe...

Hi Voidgate, I recognize a lot in what you say: the dissatisfaction with human life, the yearning for more. I have always had that too and the promise of new and exciting abilities and possibilities was a key factor in why I became a student of RSE. But then I came to see that what RSE teaches is a ...

Thank you, I really enjoyed reading 'Trappings', it's got just the right mixture of insight and humour.

Hi ex, My thoughts exactly, if the ramsters create their own reality: why such a crappy one??? Actually, I asked my mother that once and suggested to her how that seems so at odds with the 'teachings'. With the whole ug-building and storing food for the 'days to come' stuff going on at RSE, in my mi...

Wow, thanks Lost in Space. I'll make sure to point that webpage out to my mother next time I speak to her.

Anemone and sad grandfather, Thank you for sharing your experiences. I have not been able to post a reply before, but I just want to say to you that I really feel for you and what you're both going through. My thoughts are with you! Your experiences with your father, anemone and with your daughter, ...

Wow, I did not yet know about the fact that they actually teach that the small, sometimes almost invisible imperfections on the backs of the playing cards are that particular cards 'equation' or 'symbol' or 'mark'. Ha!! Now I get how my mother could become one of the so-called 'masters of cards'...s...

Life is getting funner, easier and exciting again for the first time in a long time. Again, thank you all. I totally recognize that, Freemysoul. So it was for me once I started to disentangle my braincells from Scamtha's ramblings. Every day now isn't one giant disappointment after another because ...

:D Yes, you'd indeed expect Scamtha not to mispronounce a word like 'labyrinth', after all he/she/it is the impotent one, right? Ooops, of course I meant omnipotent one, sorry for that little mispronounciation there... :twisted: Another Dimension60, Thanks, I knew there was another one I'd heard, bu...

I agree with Freemysoul. The Glen Cunningham interviews were great eye openers for me too and so I am also very grateful for the fact that he had the courage to speak out. It would be great if he could answer more questions in the future. As for the words that are mispronounced by Ramtha in the same...

Hi Marie, I think you're right in assuming that your mother's sister and her husband are in RSE. Since Scamtha has geared up the 'end of the world in 2012'-machine and is telling the ramsters (again) that Yelm is the only safe place, my mother keeps telling me (over the phone) that I should consider...

Hi WofthesunEofthemoon, Thank you for your wonderful reply to my post. It means much to me to hear your point of view, being the mother instead of the daughter. I had not yet thought of the possibility that she might feel embarassed towards me and others, once she wakes up, but I can imagine it. As ...

Hi David, Thanks for the information. I agree with you and the others that it would be tragic indeed if she was attacked while doing the Neighborhood walk. The fact that you had to become totally oblivious to the world around you while doing it, was the reason I never 'nailed' that 'discipline'. I c...

Hi, I'm new to this message board. My mother is a student of RSE (has been for about 10 years now). When she first came across the school, I was 22 years old and did not live at home anymore. Im am glad about that, because, although it still was hard to cope with the startling transformation of her ...

Hi Oldone,

Thanks for the welcome! I will post the piece I wrote on the wide eye cinema-site. I'll put in the 'experiences with family or friends at RSE' section of this message board.
Greetings, Felicitas

Hi there, I'm new. I just read the posts about Vanda Boone. I did not know her, but I gather from the content of the posts that something awful has happened to her. Could you tell me what happened, so I can understand the posts fully? Thanks. By the way, I hope I'm not intruding in this particular f...