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by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:27 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8220

Re: us vs ballard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Ballard This case regarding the I AM Activty that started in 1940 set the standard for all subsequent legal cases against "religions" or spiritual movements. Jay is correct that the US courts cannot convict a cult leader of fraud no matter how bizarre t...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:48 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Jay posted.....
Replies: 11
Views: 2112

It is my opinion that Tree certainly has done things that constitute abuse. Clearly, I am not alone in that view. a⋅buse 1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority. 2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight. 3. to speak in...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:43 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Jay posted.....
Replies: 11
Views: 2112

Clearly, Jay is not posting within the context of the posted EMF guidelines.

Not on this thread, nor others.
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:36 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: DISCIPLINES
Replies: 4
Views: 1572

Compassion, JZR "teaches the disciplines", which are techniques that the students are supposed to use as tools toward achieving enlightenment. The student is supposed to do these techniques/disciplines ... disciplining oneself to do them regularly. The more "dedicated" the student is, the more time ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:30 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Judgement of Human Projection
Replies: 6
Views: 1316

I would agree that we have all been guilty of judging a book by its cover, plenty of times in our lives. Susan Boyle is a fantastic person to teach many a lesson along that line. Yes, as G2G mentioned, the critical view from those watching her, in the audience and even the snarky attitudes oozing fr...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:33 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

re discrepancies between Les Sinclair interview in beginning of Honolulu Dialogue video and jz's autobiography - someone I know who knows someone(and the source is irrelevant to the point) found many many many discrepancies between the two - asked jz's office, in innocence re the discrepancies, and...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:01 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Hi Cat, Good ! Keep searching. It's a bit humorous to watch how we each process our time Out ! We're all heading toward the same goal; moving on, in our own ways. Ramtha's School of Entertainment ! LOL hmm... Ramtha's School of Entrapment :evil: I like your mission. Those who read EMF and are "on th...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:55 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8220

hi unbound, sounds like you are in a gray area of life - a transition of sorts. literally ... sorting. i like what your friend had to say; that you can't go back home even if you do drive around the block a gazillion times. it's a memory we hold. my daughter recently had my first grandchild. just a ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:55 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Caterpillar, Remember the times when Ramtha would go back outside of the Door 5 where s/he came in from ? Or we had long latrine breaks and waited ? Or we were wearing our blinders during C&E ? That's when JZ went to the bathroom. As for what's in the bottles, JZ was drunk. How many times did we hea...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:42 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Judgement of Human Projection
Replies: 6
Views: 1316

Oh, yeah ! Susan Boyle rocks !!! We all watched her here. She's just getting started !!
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:30 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: What is ASTARA?
Replies: 8
Views: 2713

G2G, I haven't heard of Astara before. Perhaps this is it ? http://www.astara.org/home.shtml There are tens of thousands of channelers in California alone. This org is based in CA. I don't even know if the Ostara principles are based on alleged channeled material or not, so that fact may not even be...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:55 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Abuse on EMF
Replies: 58
Views: 9387

Another Viewpoint Tree said, "I am not a (diagnosed) soiciopath (and I have paperwork to back that up)." REPLY: Did you say that you were a sociopath' Don't recall that post. You did say that you've been diagnosed with mental illness; that's posted on EMF more than once by you. Due to that fact, you...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:35 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Abuse on EMF
Replies: 58
Views: 9387

Another Viewpoint: Replies to Tree's Comments From Tree's post: This is a pattern David which has reared its' head before. REPLY: Your comment is in itself a pattern of responding to any form of 'correction' or question of your behavior. INDEED ' this IS a pattern which has reared its head before ' ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:27 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Abuse on EMF
Replies: 58
Views: 9387

I have two posts that I have written out, and have not yet posted. Sometimes, when a person is one of multiple moderators on a forum, they find themselves in a certain situation. Of course, even moderators have their own viewpoints and opinions about issues. So, for me to post the two posts I've wri...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:32 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Global Oneness Community and 2012
Replies: 11
Views: 2673

David said, "There are many witnesses to the abuse of children at RSE, Unfortunately they will not come forward and report what they know to the CPS, for fear of the possible fallout to their families...! This is the power of the RSE Cult... they have left the fold, but not its hold." Here are some ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:45 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Global Oneness Community and 2012
Replies: 11
Views: 2673

Cat, So now the tidal wave is up to 4,000 feet ? Holy smokes, Batman !!! WHAT REALITY IS RAMTHA CREATING ? WHY IS S/HE CREATING SUCH A DREADFUL TIDAL WAVE ??? WHY CAN'T RAMTHA AND HIS BUDS, STOP IT ??? Hmmmm. One of the latter events I attended, included a similar situation. We were shown video news...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:35 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat, "From memory, I think it was a minimum investment of $100,000 and the investor has to be earning a minimum of $200,000 per year or have $1 million worth of assets. These conditions are required by law for that particular type of corporation." That is also what I recall. Also, the person I was r...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:58 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat, You can wonder if Ramtha is real, or ever was anywhere from 0 - 100% of the time. You have a right to wonder about it. You have a right to wonder about it and not be criticized or swayed. Time will take care of that. If you go through the rest of your life wondering if Ramtha is or ever was rea...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:43 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

Joe, It has been very interesting researching this information. It goes to show that as it is within a number of fields, there is disagreement about viewpoints. I think it goes to show that holding onto any one theory as The Theory isn't going to do anyone much good except support a rigidity that wo...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:08 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat,

J.O. was one of JZ's "significant others". Or "partner". You get the drift.
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:04 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

There are a number of THEORIES about WHY people join cults. Also, about how many people need professional help after leaving a cult. The majority of ?experts? that have made statements about this issue, agree that the minority of people need therapy after exiting a cult, and they are able to recover...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:47 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

This information isn't very long if one wants to read the entire page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-cult_trauma An excerpt of assorted opinions: Post-cult trauma or post-cult syndrome is term describing trauma and other problems alleged to be the consequences of one leaving a group perceived as ...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:35 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

Polarized views among scholars Social scientists, sociologists, religious scholars, psychologists and psychiatrists have studied the modern field of cults and new religious movements since the early 1980s. Cult debates about certain purported cults and about cults in general often become polarized ...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:31 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

AD60, Within the community of people in the exit counseling field, there is disagreement about the level of "harm" a "cult" does to an ex-member. The FACT is that there are models (theories) that counselors may ascribe to, but that is all there are; theories. The overwhelming majority of them agree ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:08 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

This website page http://www.cesnur.org/2003/brain_conv.htm contains a very long article that I suggest everyone read. It addresses the different viewpoints held by those in the field of "cult experts", and the divergent theories that they accept as valid to explain the experience of cult victims. E...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:01 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long

In talking about the need for a thread dedicated to the topic of short and long term cult recovery especially as it relates to the overall mental health of ex-members. As is true for most if not all of us on EMF, we have been self-educating, offering one another support (in most cases), and moving f...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:44 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Yes, there are several Vera Stanley Alder books. From the Mundane to the Magnificent is probably the one with the most Ramtha-type parallels. As for talking to current Ramsters who have a reason to justify anything even the death of the tsunami victims...now you know. As it has been stated on here b...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:41 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

Cat, I'm going to go look up my Netflix "history" and see if I can find the title. OKay........I found it. Leap of Faith I strongly recommend it. If enough of us watch it, it would be a good thread for exploring. Also, The Devil Wears Prada is another good one to watch for the cult-like control over...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:07 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

oh, okay. darn, i like jodie foster ! anyway, i'll order it. sit down with the fam and watch it. we watched momma mia a few nights ago. what a hoot! all those ol' ABBA songs !!! i love ABBA's music, so now i will have to go buy the soundtrack. there is a really good DVD movie that is about cults...s...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:28 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Terry Cole-Whittaker
Replies: 14
Views: 2195

Terry C-W authored five books. One of them is titled, What You Think of Me is None of My Business. That book was for sale at RSE. I never heard of her before you guys mentioned her. http://www.terrycolewhittaker.com/Terry_Cole-Whittaker/Home.html She 'teaches' a number of things, including "self rea...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:12 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

Well, I did order Holy Smoke from netflix, so at least I will watch it. I also looked up The Piano. I found one movie by that title, so I assume it's the right one. But, in reading the description, I don't see what correlation there is to cults ??????????? Where's that Joe S ??? hehe What's it about...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:32 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat,

AMB didn't offer to tell anything about her experience. If she ever wanted to, of course we'd post it. Well, rather I should say I can't imagine why we wouldn't.
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:20 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

The Piano ?

I've not heard of that one.

When was that released ?

I'll have to look these up on Netflix. They have so many DVD's, they must have them.
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:22 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat, AMB sent EMF an email. Just to answer your question. It would be informational and helpful to hear AMB's version of her JZR experiences. Perhaps she'll consider that and post. Some people just prefer to read and not post, for their own reasons. I respect that, though it's a bit frustrating at t...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:42 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

I would like to watch it. I'm going to see if I can order a copy of it through Netflix and check it out. Just curious :D

Thanks for your comments about it.
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:24 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Also, he never discussed Clyde Hood being indicted, found guilty, and sent to prison. Yes, that's true. It was all over the newspapers, students talked about it, but from the stage, it was, "Mum's the word". What's more, is the students let JZR get away with the silence. Nobody stood up and asked a...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:14 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

Cult Video: Holy Smoke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Smoke! Holy Smoke! is a 1999 Australian drama film directed by Jane Campion, who co-wrote the screenplay with her sister Anna. It premiered at the Venice Film Festival and was shown at the New York Film Festival and the Taipei Golden Horse Film Festival before being...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:42 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat, I absolutely recall a number of occasions when R said that s/he would do "whatever it takes to get you to go home", including "I will lie to you". There are some folks who believe that the Scams that go through RSE, are "tests" from "Ramtha". If you give them the benefit of the doubt and assume...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:39 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

ex, i agree with you that each individual event can really be summarized in just a few sentences. jz will take one simple concept and make a big deal out of it, feeding crumbs to the students for an entire event. then, the students will say that it was the best event ever. then there are the events ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:24 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

JTR and Pete commented, ?Well, now the question, if he cant even supply an example to his students of the skills he is teaching, can he really take control over an entire school, from policy to marketing? We both know the answer... A very astute observation, one that I have wondered about why this i...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:03 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Report on the Perversion of Science to Support Mysticism
Replies: 0
Views: 754

Report on the Perversion of Science to Support Mysticism

Report on the Perversion of Science to Support Mysticism http://www.conradaskland.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/askland0405-science.pdf I don't agree with all of this article, but I do agree that there are some valid points worth considering, so I thought I'd post it. I stumbled across it when...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:57 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Viewpoint on What the Bleep
Replies: 0
Views: 773

Viewpoint on What the Bleep

BHAGWAN SHREE RAMTHA? I try to see as many movies filmed in Oregon as possible, so I was really looking forward to What the Bleep Do We Know?, parts of which were filmed only a few blocks from my home ["What the Bleep Is Ramtha?," WW, Dec. 22, 2004]. Several friends had described the movie as inspir...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:52 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Re: Disingenuousness

Yeah youre right, I only took time to read the posts that interested me before I went to JZ's school of freaks, and after I just posted in this thread... But be honest, I would spend weeks to read up on this forum.... Had part one of that conversation yesterday with David, was nice to actually hear...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:17 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

JZ just did some reading.....again, and incorporated it into her teachings. Yes, of course you're spot on that the medical literature was publishing/studying this topic. Gosh, if we could only count how many times she's read books and then they become teachings, afterward ! I had a private conversa...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:26 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Re: Disingenuousness

Hi Whatcha, You do have a funny sence of humor, like you show in your post... Very Happy But thats not the point. Ive been telling about myself all along, you know more about me then I know about you... David did his best to figure out those codes, but didnt reach me yesterday, perhaps he will toda...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:03 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Re: Disingenuousness

I had a few reasons... To keep this tread alive because nobody was posting To see what kind of reactions I would get... testing. To have less serious posts and have a little nonsence in between I figured with all the critical thinking in here, you wouldnt take that seriously, and on top of that, by...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:31 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Obama: off topic from NLP...
Replies: 7
Views: 1819

there are people who are saying that the u.s.a. is becoming socialist. i don't agree with that; what we're seeing unfolding in front of us, is fascism. now, i'm not "against" obama. my personal belief is that what's unfolding now, began before obama and he's now in the midst of it, by design or not....
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:44 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

About the topic of politics and NLP use, I just wanted to toss into the mix that it's not solely the policiticians quietly plotting out the use of NLP in their speeches (IF that is even true, and I'm unconvinced it is), remember... They have speech writers ! At least, there would have to be collabor...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:32 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

Whatcha, Back to the original question. Does JZ sit down and map out how she is going to perform on stage before hand or does she adopt a style of delivery that worked on her at some point; adding in the non-sense as she goes along? unbound, Yes, I understand your original question, but I don't hav...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:45 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

To unbound

It has taken me a few days to get this reply together...you posted these comments a little while ago ... An Opinionated Reply to unbound... 8) Unbound said, ?Although I'm a rookie in the field, the more I learn about mind and thought manipulation, the more evidence there is to support the perception...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:24 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Beautiful Dysfunctional RSE
Replies: 11
Views: 2183

Re: Beautiful Dysfunctional RSE

I have experienced many "photographs" where the orbs appeared in response to a happy occurrence Hi G, You know how it is, if you buy a certain make and model of car, then suddenly you seem to see them everywhere ? That's how I was with the orbs. One of my hobbies is also photography, and scrapbooki...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:54 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

Cat, You've probably (?) been in audience when R gives a spiel about how, when a student does the disciplines; let's take field work for example, R has said... 1) This is my school. If I decide you're going to find your card, you'll find your card. If not, you won't. YOU are in MY school. 2) All you...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:24 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

Taylor?s concern is with any human venture , be it science, religion, or politics, that restricts brain function from creative "stop and think" activity, which then becomes little more than another exclusive cult. Hallelujah !!! I have found that in my life now, being more cautious and discerning, ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:53 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Cat, I also want to add, that I am not intending to say that the staff are "excused" for their rudeness and/or arrogance (as Oldone stated), because "Ramtha" encouraged and fostered their attitude. We are, hopefully, all adults and if we assume a role of staff at RSE, one might expect it would be be...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:46 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Students have complained about the rudeness of most staff in Yelm. Could it be that this rudeness comes from the top Cat, It is true that a long standing criticism of RSE is the rude staff. Not all of them were/are rude, but I would say more than half, are. That is, the ones who interact with the s...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:45 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: passing this along ...
Replies: 9
Views: 1918

Where are those Master sized barf bags when you need them? EEEEEEEwwwwwwwwwwwww !! hahahaha. I understand. Well, the good news in the whole thing is that while hindsight is 20/20, it's also 20/20 vision going forward from now on, too. No rose colored glasses anymore. It was one heck of a way to get...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:30 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

ooops. meant to include this about the article. apparently the article is from nevada.



"An Interesting Article from the "Conservative Weekly Voice of Las Vegas' "
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:26 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

AD60 & Joe, the article was published many times as AD60 said, and when I followed some links, I found it published on www.scribd.com, which has a ? document reader, anyone can easily upload and immediately share their original works on Scribd.com or any other website.? ? Further clicking on links f...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:36 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: passing this along ...
Replies: 9
Views: 1918

I now recall that one of the first things that tweaked my mind on this forum was a post by Joe which described how critical thinking is warped by a radical alteration in routine. Can we say that filling one's day with new disciplines might accomplish that? So if we agree to that then is it too far ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:46 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

AD, that was well said. There are more than 2 types of ex-Ramsters due to different personalities and perceptions of the experience. Cat, I have posted a number of times before, but it bears repeating; it was thanks first to the kindness, compassion, and TIME that was gifted to me by a number of pe...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:20 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: passing this along ...
Replies: 9
Views: 1918

unbound, i wish i had known before i ever went to rse, too. i would have had a different life without that mistake and its fallout. yet, as you said, i am able to separate it all out, remember the good times and ...well...we have emf to warn others, about the rest of the times.
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:01 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: passing this along ...
Replies: 9
Views: 1918

passing this along ...

The Christopher Hansard Courant March 26, 2009 The Emperor?s Tantric Robes - Codes of Secrecy in the cult An Interview with June Campbell on Codes of Secrecy and Silence Tricycle: Is it your understanding that Kalu Rinpoche broke his vows? Campbell: I don?t know what his vows were. We never spoke of...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:43 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: $ - not enlightenment
Replies: 1
Views: 921

it's good to see that there is still more information out there to showcase these realizations ! don't know how you dug that info up, cerulean, but they are good points.
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:38 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

Re: Just wondering ... Current students lament

Watcha, I did have a 'subconscious' fear of Ramtha sending me a big Runner for even reading and posting here. Cat, Just for your information, there have been some posters on EMF who became "recognized" by the content of their posts, and they started to get harassed, some rather strongly, via emails...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:09 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

I am going to revisit my initial post, after which things took a?. a turn. I was REPLYING TO JOE. I intentionally did not name the person I was referring to, though I explained, in my response to JOE, that I had become aware of something disturbing, even though I was not posting further about it at ...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:25 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: govt. mind control?
Replies: 2
Views: 837

Cerulean, I'll say this ... I had a chat with a friend a little while back. Nobody on this forum, actually. The conversation came about an entirely different way. It was related to the current terrible economy. Even around that issue there is the conspiracy theory that the global financial elite are...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:14 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: restructuring beliefs
Replies: 10
Views: 1947

I have decided to toss all that Ramtha taught, and only revive it if I find it from another source which I find trustworthy (and my judgement of trustworthy has gotten much stricter, that's for sure) and from which it still rings true. .... and my judgement of trustworthy...has gotten much stricter...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:32 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

Joe said, "I really had no idea you were yet on a campaign to expose ICSA. "

Joe, I am just getting online and checking the posts. Just saw this from you ...

I will speak for myself. I'm not on any campaign to expose ICSA.
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:22 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

we had more than one phone conversation. more than a few, actually, and you know plenty about me and vice versa. yes, you did confide things you did not want repeated. and i did not repeat them. that i am making a mountain out of a molehill...well...we can agree to disagree about that. nobody should...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:35 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

PART TWO OF TWO QUESTION: -Does anyone know what happened to the 2 students that did the Torsion process in Assay 3 in 2003 and disappeared. They only came back for their required events. Ramtha was supposed to have taken them to the 23rd universe. Is that proof that the teachings work if focused? A...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:31 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 27072

PART ONE OF TWO Hi Caterpillar, Thanks for posting. You talked about doubt. I know that in the beginning, & considering exiting, it can be hard to do, but it gets easier. Ramtha won?t strike you down for it, as we can attest to. That is actually, a common fear. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. My favorite book, T...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:36 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Lee Harris-Onaxis channel
Replies: 23
Views: 7477

Re: JZ and Lee

After reading the cult information that Joe suggested and some books likes, "Cults In Our Midst" , the really amazing thing for me was that basically, all cults are the same. I guess mind control is mind control and unfortunately it's simple and basic and the same methods are used to sell anything....
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:25 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

I want to comment further on the overall topic of what I?ll call ?whistle blowing?. Perhaps it?s food for thought, for everyone. Along that line, here are my comments and opinions. I see two issues here: 1) The pot calling the kettle black. I have openly admitted that I have not come forth with all ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:28 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

that whole paragraph is somewhat amusing. here, we are trying to expose things and encourage people to speak out. this line is so cryptic. maybe just not say anything right now rather than bait people as it were, indeed Tree, As far as my comment goes, I firmly stand by it. You can perceive it how ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:39 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Lee Harris-Onaxis channel
Replies: 23
Views: 7477

KT posted a quote, "If you'll live along the simplest of coordinates, and always be honest, you'll be fine. And even if you don't, you'll be fine, at the bottom line, because no soul will be "left behind", you are all tended. " LOL...yeah ? WHERE will they be tended ? Maybe there's an empty cell nea...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

ICSA related exit counselors have tended to avoid all use of NLP or hypnosis-like influence techniques. Back in the late 1980s and early 90s there was quite a debate with one 'exit counselor' who was accused by a few others of using and advocating NLP. The accusation was troward S Hassan. I think t...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:05 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: restructuring beliefs
Replies: 10
Views: 1947

Hi Cerulean, I do remember going through a period of time, especially intense, when I considered the teachings, and the RSE dogma as I understood it. I knew I couldn't possibly go through every single event or teaching and dissect it to decide what I discerned to be valid or invalid. The thought of ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:11 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: WAKING UP
Replies: 7
Views: 1383

yeah, that post doesn't belong here !! how did that happen ? ......... scratching head ............
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:35 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Lee Harris-Onaxis channel
Replies: 23
Views: 7477

Old Helena Blavatsy ended in a perambulator in her last years, obese and most likely diabetic and with bad lungs from her chain-smoking habit. http://www.williamjames.com/Folklore/Blavatsky.JPG what's her mug doing on a william james ' site ??? it's too late at night...i'll have to back that link u...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:18 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

I did not realize you had been away for a time and then treated your 5 year old to an extended weekend. Remember in 1997 when that big tent was up in the summer (Boktau), and there was some mini-event at the same time for part of the bigger event ? Well, anyway, it was at that event (I was there wi...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:53 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: WAKING UP
Replies: 7
Views: 1383

during the height of the wine ceremonies which led to my incarceration because of me defending my property against her and her wine drinking, alcoholic buddies who decided they would not leave my property while in a drunken stupor, etc etc. this just goes to exemplify how UNevolved the current rams...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:08 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
Replies: 55
Views: 10041

David, I'm trying to remember if it was a wine ceremony or not. I do remember that night, Rambles was walking around the arena, staring at people, stopping here and there to say things. I'll just describe it how I perceived it, like "he" was in a mood. A few barbed remarks were said to people. "He" ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:44 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Tree,

It was a FUNNY. Nothing more, nothing less. I was encouraging EMO to lighten up on you. He thinks we're jumping on him, and we're not. Though, I'm confident he realizes we're not, now.

And yes, I am trying to get caught up on posts. Sorry I have so many in a row.
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:41 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

People were clapping and saying "how beautiful," not realizing this poor woman dragging herself down the field was *not* any better at all, and I was very concerned she could slip in the mud and injure herself. [color=#]I wander what would have happened if she actually had hurt herself, makes me sh...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:31 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Enlighten me objectively wrote: living on the ground instead of underneath
Laughing my butt off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PETE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where is your sense of adventure ????????????????
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:23 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Only after that could anyone eat. (I admit I ate an energy bar I had with me - sorry, not going to let my blood sugar drop "just because" someone tells me not to eat). Pfui to such an imposition. Okay, I'm going a tad off topic for a second with a story from the RSE past. I think this is funny and ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:14 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

So anyway, here?s my point ?.is it ethical to support a place that does not practice what it teaches, a place that, in fact, harms others? ?is it ethical to do that because we think we are finding a few good things in it and we enjoy our experience at the ?ranch?? Pete, this isn?t meant as a critic...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:57 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

so EMO is not quite clear yet in his thinking. [color=#] Shame on you :shock: And does not believe critical thinking to be a vital life skill. [color=#] I had more of my intuition, but dont reject critical thinking either... Thus sets the stage for his further answers. Everyone is demanding answers...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:52 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

EMO

I frequently told all of the Ramsters that Ramtha shouldnt mock the wisdom inside Buddhism, they didnt want to hear about it, felt sorry for them Rambles can't stand, nor will 'he' tolerate, 'his' students going to any other teacher/guru. We were even told that we'd be kicked out of school, or weed...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:32 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Pete said, Im sorry if I attacked you with my DONT monologue :-) I had too much people telling me what to do in my life and I felt like you were telling me what to do and what not to do, so I appologise for that ;-) Pete Pete, I think it's speaks VOLUMES about your character that you would care enou...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:18 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

I'm catching up on posts....so this post and my next ones may appear fragmented or out of order.....but....here goes !!! GOENKA ? BUDDHISM I?ve always liked Buddhism. Still do like much of it. Taking EMO?s request seriously, I did Google ?Goenka Buddhism? and I found tons of sites, these two among t...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:37 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

the show is impressive.not showing peorsonal up is just to make you strive forward to be part of bc.you will find the desire growing in you to come back to restore the spirituall uplifting feeling you get through all the "work".thats the first programing. please forgive this metapher but its just l...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:34 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Lee Harris-Onaxis channel
Replies: 23
Views: 7477

Joe said, The ex-members say they were able to see just how pathetic these two are since the charisma bubble popped for them. Yes, well I'd bet that many on here could say the same thing for how pathetic JZK appears, once one finally sees through the facade of the Powerful Rambles, and into the hig...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:12 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

AD60 said, "And why should the healthy intelligent people be encouraged to be participant in a cult, but not the unhealthy? Everyone, intelligent stupid centered crazy drug free and drug addicted have been harmed by their participation. Should only people in good physical condition cut their arm of...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:59 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

AAAAhhhhh, I see I've sparked a lively debate !

Thank you, Pete.
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:26 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

Pete posted, "Wow, my eyes were wide open when I read your post... You wander why I am still posting here? :arrow: Just ask me to leave and you will never hear from me again... I am convinced about RSE? Didnt you read I see RSE as a cult, dont agree on their policy, feel sorry for all the people wh...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:04 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
Replies: 55
Views: 10041

I would really like to believe that if someone were assaulted with the force to knock them over, or set them off balance so that they fall, another student there would intervene. Or that multiple people would. I don't want to get into speculation about it, though, because we just don't know. What I ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:29 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Lee Harris-Onaxis channel
Replies: 23
Views: 7477

Joe posted, "Sometimes the justice wins out in these cases."

YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet another ray of hope that someone else can/will follow SUIT.

pun intended


;-) :D
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:25 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

EMO said, "I agree with you on kindness, the loving way... and I dont get what the Conan-approach is all about, but find it very amusing nevertheless... " A few comments: * As the teachings go, the first three seals would be the territory in which the "Conan-approach" would be based from. If you acc...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:10 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

pete, for now i will just say that i'm encouraged to know that 10% of you doesn't believe in rse/ramtha/jz. that's a ray of hope. also encouraging to know you still feel compassion toward others, and it invokes your sadness and anger. good news. that means that you haven't succumbed (yet) to the not...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:51 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
Replies: 55
Views: 10041

hi megan, it's very interesting that you drew the parallels between your sister's childhood, and what jz/r said to her. since she was close to jz for a time, jz knew which buttons to press in her. and did. how tragic. it makes me so mad. i wish i could rescript that day and have sister turn to jz/r ...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:52 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
Replies: 55
Views: 10041

Hi Megan, I'm so glad you posted. I've posted on EMF about your sister, many times. Yes, I knew her, though not closely. We were partners at an event, and had talked a few times. I wasn't a real chatty one when there. I saw your sister's assault by Ramtha/JZ. Abhorrent. I was livid that the man with...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:30 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8220

Welcome, unbound.

Glad that you've found your way here and it has been of some help. As AD60 already said, if you are willing to share some of your story, it may help you to do so, and it will surely help readers.


Congratulations on being ... unbound !
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:39 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

http://www.examiner.com/x-2644-Charlotte-History-Examiner~y2009m3d14-One-bad-apple-no-longer-spoils-the-whole-bunch-with-nanotechnology One bad apple no longer spoils the whole bunch with nanotechnology March 14, 3:29 AM ? Add a Comment ShareThis Feed Order your home and have it built in a day. Want...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:21 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

More ... of possible interest ... Violating a not-so-exclusive exclusion principle. Link to this page <a>Violating a not-so-exclusive exclusion principle.</a> Violating a not-so-exclusive exclusion principle exclusion principle, physical principle enunciated by Wolfgang Pauli in 1925 stating that no...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:39 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

David, It IS a lot to ponder. What seems apparent, though, historically, is that as human beings there is much we do not know. I try to be cautious of falling into a dogmatic trap of ... well, possibly being arrogant and deluding myself on any level (intellectually, emotionally...) that I have all t...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:14 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

Bilocation The presence of a finite being in two places at once ???? * Published by Encyclopedia Press, 1913. Bilocation (Latin bis, twice, and locatio, place). I. The question whether the same finite being (especially a body) can be at once in two (bilocation) or more (replication, multilocation) t...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:53 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

I'm not going to engage a debate about whether or not bilocation can, ever have, does, or ever will happen. Instead, I elect to comment on historical and current data regarding bilocation. If bilocation is "real", I want to know the truth. If it's "not real", I want to know the truth. That desire is...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:23 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

From the Journal of Physics

This is also interesting reading for those with an interest in it. Excerpted from: http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1742-6596/67/1/012033 New experimental limit on Pauli exclusion principle violation by electrons (VIP experiment) Abstract. The Pauli exclusion principle (PEP) represents one of the basi...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:13 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pauli exclusion principle and Bleep
Replies: 13
Views: 3553

as for the bleep movie, they ruined their credibility in a number of ways using their "artistic license". this post i'm making has nothing to do with that movie. my comments and information are along the line of addressing the pauli exclusion principle. yes, i would agree that the pauli exclusion pr...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:12 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
Replies: 36
Views: 11056

Tree asked, "but I would be interested to know how she got the rights back to the white book if Weinberg is so set on destroying the thing he created." Hmmm...did anyone say that she did get the rights back ? If so, I'd like to know who and how. So far, I am not aware that such has occurred. :wink: ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:37 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Designer Babies & Longevity
Replies: 1
Views: 959

The Methuselah Foundation

http://blog.methuselahfoundation.org/ Check this out. What really cracks me up in here, is I remember Rambles saying that in "fifty years" there will be a little robot that could be inside your body monitoring your systems, etc., etc. HAHAHAHA.........that was just a few years ago that the old goat ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:22 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Designer Babies & Longevity
Replies: 1
Views: 959

Designer Babies & Longevity

I don't know where to put this info...so I figured this is a good place. In "moving on", we can also talk about our lives as they don't relate to RSE. (yeah !!!!) Anyhow, as some readers know, I am quite fond of science (college major). One area in particular that I enjoy keeping abreast of, is nano...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:35 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

On longevity... http://www.lef.org With the research on longevity, immortality, and incredible gains in science through nanotechnology, I wouldn't rule out extreme life extension. But if....or when...it arrives, it will be thanks to science, not JZ-Rambles "prophecies". It's not a secret if you rese...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:09 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: more auction material
Replies: 4
Views: 1021

Wow. That brings back memories !

Stage redesign ? Haven't seen that for a while. Time to change the furniture, I guess. Probably copper lined for the Days That Are Here.

:roll:
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:52 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

EMO, Okay, so you just go right ahead and attend the event, you silly if not stubborn, curious guy. (teasing & humor) I do agree with you that it will be an experience. I'll agree with "Ramtha" who has also said many times that once we have an experience, it's already in the brain chemically, so how...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:33 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: RSE Newsletter - Ramtha prophecy about the Black Pope
Replies: 16
Views: 3147

My Opinion...

JZ Knight, as Rambles, stated that Obama is the first black pope (etc, as posted above), on December 31, 2008. HOWEVER... as is typical JZ fare, she is regurgitating information that has already been on the internet (at least) about that. Rambles is going to have to come up with something more "orig...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:25 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26759

(I'm just getting caught up on posts) Hi EMO, Welcome to EMF. I just finished reading through this thread and I can say "Ditto !" to everyone's comments back to you. One thing that I will gently mention here, is something I noticed as I read through the thread. When *you* say that you are going no m...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:06 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10778

AD60, That's really good information to have yourself, and of course for others to see, too. It sheds light on, as you said, the "how could that happen to me" syndrome. Excellent material for those on here that we know read/post, and those who read and never post. We're SO not alone having gone thro...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:55 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 'Ramtha The White book'
Replies: 10
Views: 2508

This made me giggle; "If people could just see and realize she has been making things up all along, it might help them to see that the entire charade is a fraud. " We say this sort of thing about THEM (current students), but for how many years this was US ! Yes, it would be a relief if the current s...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:55 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 'Ramtha The White book'
Replies: 10
Views: 2508

Gosh, Joe.

It sounds like the White Book isn't about ...Ramtha... since Steve edited it. Edit means "distorted" in RSE-land.


It's the ... Church I Am Steve Weinberg !!!!


JZ allowed this. Amazing.
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:05 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Wiki on JZK
Replies: 7
Views: 1528

I'd say that the moderators might want to contact Wiki and thank them for including the link. Maybe they'd like links to the google videos EMF has ? EMF was mentioned on Rick Ross, too. His msg board(s) include folks who have directed readers to EMF. Nobody I know did that !!! No conspiracies, hahah...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:23 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Wiki on JZK
Replies: 7
Views: 1528

I haven't a clue how it got there ! I didn't contact them and ask for it to be included, either. I'm just happy it's there. Obviously, people need to hear TWO sides of a story before going there. The marketing campaign of RSE, and the TRUTH that's missing in the marketing campaign, from those who we...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:34 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Wiki on JZK
Replies: 7
Views: 1528

Wiki on JZK

Someone just emailed this to me.

I quickly scrolled down, wondering WHY they sent me a JZK link. LOL

Now, I know why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Z._Knight

EMF is listed at the bottom of the page with other additional information links.

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by Whatchamacallit
Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:29 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 'Ramtha The White book'
Replies: 10
Views: 2508

'Ramtha The White book'

AD60 said, "The discrepancies of the "White Book Ramtha" and the reality of the foul mouthed drunk need to be shared." I have an old copy of the White Book. If one looks closely, you will see that the book was not "pure" in its presentation. I use that word intentionally because of how many times st...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:14 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: From a Quantum Physics Student: Blog Comment
Replies: 0
Views: 921

From a Quantum Physics Student: Blog Comment

Excerpted from a blog comment: "Our second topic was What the Bleep!? and Quantum Mechanics. What the Bleep Do We Know!? is a film which uses misinterpretations of quantum mechanics to promote a rather new age view of the world. The really funny part is that the film is a basically a front from this...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:09 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Article: Who Wants to be a God ?
Replies: 0
Views: 787

Article: Who Wants to be a God ?

This article about the "fallen spirit Ramtha" does have a christian perspective, but I'm sharing it not because I endorse that view, but because I see the similarities noted between Knight and the Moonies, etc. If you care to read it, you'll see what I mean. http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.co...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:25 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Global Oneness Community and 2012
Replies: 11
Views: 2673

yup, i can confirm that 2012 has been, and continues to be a huge part of the rse worldview.

end times.

aliens coming.

"time" as we know it now, will cease to exist in 2012 as we "create" a new future.
(gee, that one has been around for too long...it's getting cobwebs)
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:22 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blueheeler posted
Replies: 45
Views: 6719

hi, i'm just getting slowly caught up with the posts, as i've been busy visiting daily with my newly born first grandbaby =-) also found out that we have another one on the way this summer. anyway, reading through these posts, i can save time by just saying i agree with what oldone posted. toward a ...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:40 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Guest Speaker Dr. Brooks Agnew
Replies: 2
Views: 967

jtr, you're giving her ideas !!!

you could send her a bill for consulting fees, i suppose.
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:35 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: the continued bashing by Ramsters
Replies: 2
Views: 1132

A few things come to mind when reading this ... 1) Generally speaking, Ramsters believe they are the radical few (read: special and know more than the lowly villagers), so they adopt a Ramtha-like critical attitude which presents itself in the fashion cited above at the mtg. What they fail to realiz...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:04 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: JZ & Developers Duke it out
Replies: 11
Views: 2046

what about all of the individual portable-travel-potties that students will have with them, so that they can do their business in their tents ??????????


where is the department of health ?


maybe a little birdy has whispered into their ears.......
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:30 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blueheeler posted
Replies: 45
Views: 6719

David, Tree and Aussie, You've all taken great care to respond to blueheeler. I hope it is appreciated. In private emails, many times, I enjoyed chats with blueheeler. After a while, I felt beaten down because I always supported "moving on" in some fashion. I gave suggestions for finding even the sm...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:04 pm
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Homeopathic Nasal Spray Effective for Allergies

Study Finds Homeopathic Nasal Spray Effective for Allergies (NaturalNews) Researchers from Strategic BioSciences and the Institute for Asthma and Allergy in Wheaton, Maryland, have found that homeopathic nasal sprays using capsicum, an active component derived from the fruit of the cayenne pepper pl...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:48 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Letter from JZ Knight ... Event sales must be down :)
Replies: 10
Views: 1646

how many times over the years had we heard that rambling was leaving ? many.... the students went into disbelief, denial, despair.... if "he" left for good, or if the students discovered beyond any doubt that rambles is a fraud, the hard core devotees would likely crumble. it would be very sad, and ...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:44 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Steve Klein using Carroll Cobbs' info
Replies: 5
Views: 1350

oh, good. i'm so glad you posted that !
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:01 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: The Attorney General Complaint Letter Jan 3rd, 2007
Replies: 27
Views: 10327

unless a complaint letter to the atty general presents with a cause of action for either consumer fraud or a crime, the atty general is powerless to take action. so, in that way, it's a waste of one's time to write if they expect an action to be taken without meeting the criteria. having said that, ...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:44 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Letter from JZ Knight ... Event sales must be down :)
Replies: 10
Views: 1646

So, JZ has been abandoned by Blue Body and now she's being abandoned by students who are putting their OWN needs before HERS.

My goodness sake, perhaps a new day IS dawning, after all.
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:27 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Editor-wannabe
Replies: 12
Views: 1628

CA, good point.

Makes me think of Humpty Dumpty.
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:04 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Editor-wannabe
Replies: 12
Views: 1628

Hmmm...

Is Steve a victim ? Is JZ a victim ? Creating such things !

Oh. There is purposeful good in the wall being smashed, right ? You know, like those dead tsunami victims. The deserved their reality, too, RIGHT ????


It's a blessing that such hypocrisies arise for people to see.
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:57 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Anyone remember "Rockwork"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2039

Hi See, nice to "see" ya ! Har, har, har... G2G, it's embarrassing, but really...I'm over it ! I'm just laughing/joking about myself, that's all. JZ got her property all picked up from the loads of rocks that were laying around. Just have a bunch of events where you tell students they need to go pic...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:32 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Anyone remember "Rockwork"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2039

Remember in the early 1990's when we made masks for the pagan dance, and we were instructed not to be wimps, and to include our BLOOD on the mask for the frequency ? Let's think about how stupid that is. (Hey, I can say that since I was there !) If we need to put our blood outside of our body, then ...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:25 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Anyone remember "Rockwork"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2039

Rock work was around 1991 - 1994.
I can gauge "when" major stuff was going on by when I was/wasn't pregnant ! LOL
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:21 am
Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
Topic: "RSE formula" for the Sea-11 water?
Replies: 18
Views: 4316

The teaching and recipe for Sea-11 Water were given in 1996 or 1997. It was possibly at the required autumn follow-up event of 1996, but it was absolutely by early 1997.
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:33 am
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: how's Blue Body ?
Replies: 50
Views: 8374

March 16, 1946 Happy Birthday, JZ. She'll be SIXTY-THREE in less than two months. Almost time to retire to Greece. Or France. Or Hong Kong. Asia. Yep. Whatever it takes, to preserve her TRUE beloved; her MONEY. Make NO mistake about that, Blue Body or anyone else. And no, I am not jealous of her mon...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:56 am
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: how's Blue Body ?
Replies: 50
Views: 8374

i know...pretense...i have often thought about him saying that, too. too bad he doesn't post on here. i'd love to talk to him. the irony is, if he saw me, he'd recognize me. not that i'm anyone special, but ya just can't be there so many years with the same faces all the time and not remember the fa...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:42 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: The Inauguration
Replies: 5
Views: 1241

Tree said, "and the "supposed" responsibility is one that has been twisted through thought reform to mean something totally, utterly different than the one Obama is suggesting that the US and the entire world embrace. " Yes, exactly. By the way, the woman I was referring to in my previous post, was ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:46 am
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: how's Blue Body ?
Replies: 50
Views: 8374

AD60 said, "But Jeffrey was her soulmate!!! How many soulmates does she have? Is there such a thing as "mulitple soul disorder" ? Does anyone have the Soulmate audio from the mid-80's?" How'd I miss this post ? Anyway, cute humor about multiple soul disorder. When you read the general new age views ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:51 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: The Inauguration
Replies: 5
Views: 1241

I just wrote a post, and had left the computer, come back and forth a few times...and then the post was "timed out", so I lost it. Anyway, what I had said was I was glad Tree started this thread because it's a good one. We made a family day of the inauguration today, watching it all. We talked to on...
by Whatchamacallit
Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:27 pm
Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
Topic: "RSE formula" for the Sea-11 water?
Replies: 18
Views: 4316

Song, Are You Sitting Down ?

AD60 said, "And, to all of us who so freely bash ramsters in one form or another - she has a ramster friend who is taking care of her when no one else will, who faithfully drove her everyday for treatment at 5 am literally through snow and ice and wind and rain, who has given up all privacy in his s...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:19 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Peter Moons latest books
Replies: 7
Views: 1660

Kaworu, I agree that he presents himself well. Calm, sounds like a voice of authority...that's fine for the surface. Yes, he is marketing himself. Hmmm. Yes, "he also talks about that we only use 10% of our brain capacity, which I believe has already been debunked here.he also talks about that we on...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:20 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Acupuncture, homeopathy, naturopathy, and other "complementary" therapies are no longer dismissed as quackish pursuits of New Age pioneers . And it's the rare pharmacy that doesn't stock a healthy inventory of vitamin and herbal supplements. http://www.utne.com/1998-09-01/the-codex-conspiracy.aspx A...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:17 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

New Homeopathy Info

NEW INFO ON HOMEOPATHY I know that some of the readers on EMF are interested in the subject of alternative medicine in general, and homeopathy more specifically. My posts about that topic were birthed from another post that used it as an example of quackery, similar to cults. I respectfully disagree...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:12 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed...?
Replies: 21
Views: 3866

Tree said, "Rambles had come up to her and had this poor old woman fill her beach tumbler ( at least 22 oz) to the rim and down it. not once, but twice. I just cannot fathom the mind that orders people to do such things. just the Sociopath Next Door." Wow. That's awful. Right when I was starting to ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:02 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

Sara, Hubby was willing (and was actively pursuing and had an offer) to transfer to WA. Ironically enough, after a particular event ~ thought not at all in a time frame where I was ready to leave RSE ~ I was seriously looking at real estate. I couldn't do it. I'm going to share something here and I ...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:55 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

yes, lurker ! i agree with that. on both counts !

LOL !
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:43 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

yeah.........but there's some pretty feisty aging people, too ! no worries, jz is aging and she hasn't given it up, either. so how evolved can she really be ?! :shock:
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:17 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed...?
Replies: 21
Views: 3866

it is true; we were told countless times that "we need to hear it", or "harsh words? someone has to say them to you." both comments were clear messages that rambles knows more than we do, and more specifically, knows more about US than we do ! (not) so the dedicated student does not question the ram...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:48 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Colloidal silver..does it work?
Replies: 12
Views: 2129

David, Here's a website for Colloidal Silver that you might find of interest. http://www.silver-colloids.com/ I have a machine to make my own. I don't sell it; it's for personal use (don't want to risk giving the wrong impression here) . The particles need to be a certain size to work, and not to ca...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:38 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Peter Moons latest books
Replies: 7
Views: 1660

yeah, i have to admit, i'm very skeptical of this stewart guy. i did watch the entire video, though, to give it a fair chance. he's still promoting new age dogma. the message he talks about, re: a feigned, holographic alien invasion to use "mind control" to band all global humanity together, rallyin...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:28 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

lurker, there are posts where people have posted on here that rse was not "all bad". however, they don't then equate that because it was not "all bad" that it then justified what was/is bad. personal viewpoints and choice. as for relationships, the teachings have been contradictory (as usual). the b...
by Whatchamacallit
Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:41 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Peter Moons latest books
Replies: 7
Views: 1660

Thank you for posting this, Kaworu. I'm going to watch this entire video. I've watched a short segment and it looks very interesting to me. Years ago, I read quite a bit about Crowley, and a lesser amount about Hubbard. Although, a very dear friend of mine was high up in Scientology for ten years. I...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:52 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Do we create our reality ?
Replies: 3
Views: 1475

Wow, AD60, what an great post ! You put into words some of the thoughts I've had and you described it so well. Exactly...for the sake of debate, let's say that we do create our reality all of the time, even for unknown reasons. It would absolutely stand to reason that if we are evolving to HIGHER le...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:43 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: EMF 2008: THE YEAR IN REVIEW
Replies: 3
Views: 1131

Marie, Your story reminds me so much of Sad Grandfather; he also lost his family. It's the opposite, in a way, whereas you lost mom/siblings, he lost child/grandchildren. The pain you both carry is palpable. I'm glad that EMF is a place that helps both of you out in its own way. Never give up hope. ...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:28 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Do we create our reality ?
Replies: 3
Views: 1475

Do we create our reality ?

Do we create our reality ? My current VIEWPOINT, based on science, (NOT PSEUDOSCIENCE) and based on experiences in RSE and the like, is that we do not have full control of our reality experiences in these physical bodies, in this lifetime. Needless to say, this is a controversial topic. So, I am pos...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:17 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

I also wanted to mention that the new age view of 'because we don't understand something, we can't possibly judge or understand it, but would respect it' reminds me of "thought stopping", which is a mind control technique that some of us are educated/informed about the use of. It's akin to the Rambl...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:52 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

Sara said, "EVEN IF those who died in the tsunami did "choose" or "agree to" it - that is so different from saying that they deserved it because they were too stupid/unaware to see it coming. I've never heard that view anywhere else than from RSE! According to the view that they "allowed" it to happ...
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:41 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Magic in words.
Replies: 13
Views: 3389

CA,

Oh, I believe you ! I just really don't ever remember hearing that. For as many events as I attended (aaaaaaaaaaaack !), I really just don't know how I missed that. But, I did !

Yeah, you're right...he ascended right outta that place. So, is he Magic Number One ? LOL
by Whatchamacallit
Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:32 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

sara, something else popped into my mind, to share with you, also. along the line of "we create our reality" (which i don't believe is accurate, but a partial truth), perhaps you've read the thread(s) where myself and others have addressed the multiple times when jz and jzasrambles rambling to the r...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:33 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

sara, perhaps an approach with the person you're referring to would be not to say "you're in a cult, run outta there", but to point out the discrepancies in the core claims of such a new age teaching. 1) we all create all of our reality by our thoughts, which are things 2) we can heal anything 3) we...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:20 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: New Discipline Weekend
Replies: 7
Views: 2119

the cream is rising to the top !!!!!!

ROFL !



permanent febrile state ?! that's a good one. actually, she reminds me of that three faces of eve movie we were forced to watch.
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:15 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Never knew...
Replies: 5
Views: 1543

the basic emotions of love and fear... i suspect that has been cited by many new age channeler's/teachers. i read that in a book......years ago....kryon, i believe. lazaris said/says it, also. insert humor ... maybe all the new age groups/individuals can merge together and create a United Global New...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:07 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: "No ordinary love"
Replies: 4
Views: 1842

From the lyrics: "And even though
It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah"

Yeah, yeah !!! You're sure right; it fits.
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:00 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: hooked
Replies: 9
Views: 3189

yes, there are probably men and women who have bypassed the time of life when one typically has children and raises a family. but, with the kindest of intent, i would suggest that if one is in whatever situation where they would not or could not, biologically parent a child, there is always adoption...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:52 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: experience as a hook
Replies: 4
Views: 2062

reality ? what is reality ? subjectivity of reality ? oh, yes. years ago, when i was studying medicine, and did a rotation on a psyche unit in the hospital, an elderly patient (male) walked over to me as he was heading to the bathroom. he very, very carefully and tenderly extended his two cupped han...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:47 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Magic in words.
Replies: 13
Views: 3389

wow, how in the world did i miss that one ? blue body was "selected for ascension" ??? i just remember jz talking to the audience (you know what i mean.......as herself). she was blubbering about how she goes out of her body so that the ram can come in and take over. she said when she is out, she's ...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:42 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Magic in words.
Replies: 13
Views: 3389

tree said, "But I didn't go any further along with that thought process. " yep ! the ol' thought stopping process. good for you (LOL) ... at least you did the thought stopping well ! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack ! i hear cher's song in my head........"if i could turn back time..." hindsight is 20/20.
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:35 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: "No ordinary love"
Replies: 4
Views: 1842

Hi Sara, Yes, I have compared the "loss", when leaving RSE, to that of the grief involved in losing a loved one; a death of sorts. That loss encompasses the belief, the feeling of trust in someone that you fairly respect to hold your spiritual heart safely in their Ascended God-wise hands (not to be...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:06 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: New Discipline Weekend
Replies: 7
Views: 2119

Yeah, bringing supplies which will relax the folkies even more, plus that dreaded, boring teaching of El Camino...yikes. I got yelled at one time when they replayed that awful thing, because I was falling asleep. BORING. Such drama. Who needs it ? And, who needs it DRUNK ? They won't remember it, an...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:02 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

ex, That's an EXCELLENT point; your observation about JZ fighting the developers about the water rights issue, when she spouted off the statistics she did about housing 5,000 per event title, and that's okay ? Gee, that deserves to be explored in its own thread ! Where's Steve K on that point ? LOL
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:02 am
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Magic in words.
Replies: 13
Views: 3389

"and then to be able to detach enough to have compassion for this lost soul who is genuinely wretching the life out of people. She DOES need to be held accountable. " i can understand that. yes, there were some fun/good times there. however...consider this... (i'm addressing all readers with a hypot...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:57 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Future of RSE?
Replies: 37
Views: 3233

i think "splinter groups" have happened, in a broader sense, since before all of us were born. the philosophy of "god within" predates even the more fossilized among us (giggle). i think i know what tree is saying about no splinter groups, in the sense that jz most likely will have herself positione...
by Whatchamacallit
Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:38 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Hey J -oe Sz? What do you think about Stanislov Groff vs RSE
Replies: 13
Views: 3587

Sara

"prema" means divine love. i had a conversation with a woman years ago, whose mom taught yoga. she taught more than one approach. i recall this woman (ex-rse student) telling me (shortly before she left rse) that it was her opinion that her mom was closer to "the truth" than rambles. she said that t...
by Whatchamacallit
Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:41 pm
Forum: Off Topic Posts - Recycle Bin - Really Weird Stuff - Moved to Here
Topic: wolfman's entire post has been removed due to flaming.
Replies: 5
Views: 1573

aussiegirl

hi aussie, just want to let you know, and other readers, that the post that was pulled, written by WOLFMAN, was an attack toward you and i. it was highly sexualized, and an insult to ALL females. since this forum clearly states that vitriolic posts IS a reason for being banned permanently WITHOUT NO...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:53 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: secret santa gifts $100 bills
Replies: 1
Views: 727

secret santa gifts $100 bills

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28086291#28086291 A very short video clip of an anonymous person donating $100 bill to adults and children. no c&e required =-) no blinders no field work no tank no staff passing out money so folks believe they manifested it just a real live human being with a...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:59 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: a High Holiday Happening
Replies: 2
Views: 779

how can some of us vote when you didn't include chocolate ? i'm still waiting for greg to get back to david about david's invitation to jz knight to have a videotaped session with him. he offered to do tape it and give jz free air time ! she hasn't taken him up on the offer. new year's eve with jzra...
by Whatchamacallit
Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:52 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: The Children?s School of Excellence is seeking a full-time
Replies: 4
Views: 1607

You're right, Tree. Aging faces. So much for that aspect of the teaching. They think they're going to live to be at least 200 ? How ?

The Red Lion: Wine: The Elixir of Youth ????? Where ?
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:12 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Website evaluating Amway as a cult
Replies: 11
Views: 2256

G2G, quick, copyright it !!!!! LOL
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:45 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: MONTAUK
Replies: 21
Views: 3547

or in the washing machine.......or the dryer.... or in the 23rd universe.....LOL.
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:41 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

good point. although...i think the "off topic" section is sort of a "room" where posts go to that are just sitting idly. not to be started/continued. maybe that's why it got moved here ? oh...thinking to self...this "started" as a comment back to joe's book review. asking myself how did that topic e...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:37 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: The Glen Cunningham followup Q & A Video Interviews
Replies: 15
Views: 2757

Wakeup, that was a generous act on your part. You also bring up a good point. I've seen people at events bring things and place them on other people's mats. It could be a certain food, flowers, etc. But it happens all the time. I know of one woman who wrote checks and gave them to a couple of studen...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:33 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Ramayan/Ramayana
Replies: 6
Views: 1993

G2G, I misspoke ! It WAS the Mahabarat that we saw ! I mean, it was LONG ! I am almost certain it was also done as a made-for-tv presentation. I think it was a series for a week, if I recall correctly. I don't have time right now, or I'd go see if I can google info about it, because I'm 99% sure.
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:40 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/printerfriendlynews.php?news

Whatcha's note: Nanotechnology is frequently used as an umbrella term for all things very small, though a nanometer is only in a narrow range of measurement, smaller than "small". It's confusing and not uncommon that the term is precisely, misrepresented. In any case, an interesting article that is ...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:34 am
Forum: For Professionals: Teachers, Professors, Healthcare Workers
Topic: Homeopathy
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co

Just want to share a couple of tidbits that I got...a new article... Religious 'shun nanotechnology' Attitudes to nanotechnology may be determined by religious and cultural beliefs, suggest researchers writing in the journal Nature Nanotechnology. They say religious people tend to view nanotechnolog...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:30 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Website evaluating Amway as a cult
Replies: 11
Views: 2256

G2G One can maintain an open mind while at the same time not going "comfortably numb." Wow, excellent description. CD, I have to agree...Amway is SO pervasive and so SLICK in their presentation. I heard about a year ago that they have programs now, where they don't mention the word "Amway" at ALL. ...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:25 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: The Glen Cunningham followup Q & A Video Interviews
Replies: 15
Views: 2757

DreamWeaver Hello, great video. As to the "The Manifestation Evening" segment...read a woman's testimonial in the latest RSE Newsletter where she found a 100 $ dollar bill in her new sleeping bag. Hi Dreamweaver, I don't have the RSE newsletter. My email delivery was discontinued at one point, even...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:18 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Ramayan/Ramayana
Replies: 6
Views: 1993

G2G, Years ago, in my early years of RSE, we went to see the Ramayana at a movie theater. It was a loooong movie ! Whew !! Many of us went to see it, as it was being talked about. Out there, word spreads fast. Of course, we were led to believe we were seeing Ramble's life history. The epic was playi...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:15 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: MONTAUK
Replies: 21
Views: 3547

aussie said, Wolfman sounds exactly like an RSE member. That ridiculous attitude - "you are too stupid to understand what I know". Just as well everyone doesn't think like that or we would all be walking around in diapers talking gibberish. From my experience an attitude like that is born from doub...
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:04 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: MONTAUK
Replies: 21
Views: 3547

eye candy

G2G, you're an animal ! Stop checking the hotties out ! I want to talk to your hubby !

ROFLMAO !!!

:lol: :D :lol: :D :shock:
by Whatchamacallit
Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:02 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: MONTAUK
Replies: 21
Views: 3547

G2G

G2G,

I sent you two PM's a little while ago. Did you get them ???? Perhaps you can email ?

Whatcha

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