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by Marie
Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:52 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material
Replies: 16
Views: 5674

Re: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material

A difference in price yes -- availability... well I thought the thread of this discussion was that copies of "From the Mundane... " were hard to find. Amazon has everything!...;-)
by Marie
Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:51 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material
Replies: 16
Views: 5674

Re: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material

There are several copies of this book available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/From-Mundane-Magn ... 0877285047
by Marie
Tue May 28, 2013 5:15 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: The real cost of enlightenment
Replies: 11
Views: 1988

Re: The real cost of enlightenment

Linda, I'm in the same boat, having lost more than one family member to r$e. Mine have been involved from anywhere to 25 years -- my sister -- to 13 years -- my mother -- to 5 or more years, other family members. I also have no hope, and really no desire, at this point, for them to wake up. I don't ...
by Marie
Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:04 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: J.Z. Knight says she is "having a good time"
Replies: 6
Views: 2074

Re: J.Z. Knight says she is "having a good time"

CalDream, My mother's explanation when I questioned her about it was "oh, well, you have to understand that was not JZ, that was Ramtha, and he will do anything to get our attention." Which says what? That they are so thick they don't pay attention to anything unless it is delivered in a drunken hat...
by Marie
Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:47 am
Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
Topic: hobo prince scam
Replies: 15
Views: 2735

Re: hobo prince scam

Sounds a little like designing virtual shoes or furniture to fill virtual houses in the virtual reality game Second Life, but charging real money for them, which people do. I saw a documentary on Second Life where a woman made her living doing this.
by Marie
Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:49 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Article-Chaneler goes to court over release of Ramtha Videos
Replies: 1
Views: 1267

Re: Article-Chaneler goes to court over release of Ramtha Vi

wow.. thanks for posting this link. I was able to view the vids and they are indeed shocking, esp. coming from someone who claims to be enlightened -- she is nothing more than a foul mouthed drunk.
by Marie
Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:14 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Members!
Replies: 17
Views: 3023

Re: JZK,Inc claims "Conditions of Participation" on EMF Memb

If anyone from rse is reading this post -- either with their own eyes or from remote view -- bwahahaha -- I double dog dare you to threaten me with anything. I will do everything I am able to support Virginia and EMF. rse (and I keep it lower case b/c that's what it is, lower) and jz knight in parti...
by Marie
Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:45 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: New post from Bettye Johnson and reply:
Replies: 13
Views: 2779

Re: New post from Bettye Johnson and reply:

This is pretty funny. Coincidentally, someone I know -- completely impartial, a professor I had for an english class -- lives near Yelm and she says that to everyone in that area, RSE is known as a big joke.
by Marie
Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:20 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: disciplines beneficial???
Replies: 21
Views: 2950

Re: disciplines beneficial???

And my post was directed at Knight specifically -- not toward anyone who was only following orders to do the disciplines! I learned from my mother that she will live to be 200 as all good masters do!.... :lol:
by Marie
Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:24 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: disciplines beneficial???
Replies: 21
Views: 2950

Re: disciplines beneficial???

I think the emphasis on aging -- or not -- is probably due more to her pathological narcissism than any discrimination. My understanding is that growing old is usually denied by true narcissists.
by Marie
Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:05 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Finally....
Replies: 16
Views: 3189

Re: Finally....

Hi Kelku,

Thanks for your post. It makes me hopeful that one day the family I have lost to rse will also wake up.
by Marie
Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:55 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Rse discounts for children watching the stream
Replies: 9
Views: 1629

Re: Rse discounts for children watching the stream

Hmmm.... When I asked my mother, who is what I thought was a sober alcoholic for the past 30 years, what she did during the wine ceremonies when it was insisted that wine was drunk, told me that she drank juice. I thought, ok, maybe she can resist this pressure while at events. But when she moved to...
by Marie
Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:04 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: New discipline at the school
Replies: 12
Views: 4247

Re: New discipline at the school

Hahahaha.... That is just too funny. I wonder if they eat Twinkies with that?
by Marie
Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:00 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: RAMTHA calling all email warriors
Replies: 7
Views: 1763

Re: RAMTHA calling all email warriors

Same story, different year. She was spewing the same story 20 years ago. She is really embarrassingly repetitive in her fantasies.
by Marie
Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:37 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: feeling a bit lost and confused
Replies: 46
Views: 5509

Re: feeling a bit lost and confused

Hang in there outonalimb, you are not alone.
by Marie
Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:31 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: new signs
Replies: 17
Views: 2560

Re: new signs

David,

she probably paid for it.... ;-)
by Marie
Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:42 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: September 23rd 2011 Ramtha stream, more alien doom and gloom
Replies: 5
Views: 1812

Re: September 23rd 2011 Ramtha stream, more alien doom and g

Whenever I hear stories about "the greys" and how they are taking over / controlling the world / our economic situation I am always reminded of a video my sister showed me about 20 years ago... She was very emphatic that the world was controlled by a few and this was supposedly a video of one of the...
by Marie
Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:34 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: JZ Knight "Ramtha" drunken rant Video
Replies: 11
Views: 3299

Re: JZ Knight "Ramtha" drunken rant Video

Didn't we see this particular video before? Nothing new... If she could have worked a little pole dance into it, that would have been slightly amusing.
by Marie
Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:51 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
Replies: 43
Views: 4907

Re: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say fare

I'm not sure how close the connection between jz and indigo children but there was a time about four or five years ago that my mother went on and on about it... I had heard of them before so didn't pay too much attention to what she was saying... I'm thinking now that her then fascination had someth...
by Marie
Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:48 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
Replies: 43
Views: 4907

Re: Does thought create reality: I want to say farewell

I am totally with you on the positive perception outlook, LiS...thanks for clarifying.... :lol:

I appreciate your kind words.
by Marie
Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:01 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
Replies: 43
Views: 4907

Re: Does thought create reality: I want to say farewell

LiS said : "Personally, I have an analogous belief, that people, and 'the Universe' if you will, tend to fulfill your expectations of them" I have to disagree with this LiS... logic would then follow that I expected my family to dump me for a 35,000 year old warrior from Lemuria... Or a woman who sa...
by Marie
Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:41 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Adios Mother
Replies: 19
Views: 2496

Re: Adios Mother

Hi Adios, I'm so sorry about your mother. I can also relate. My mother moved to Yelm at the age of 72. My sister and her husband also live there as do my aunt and uncle. I understand your sadness, anger and frustration. It is very sad to lose a family to rse. My sister and mother's side of the famil...
by Marie
Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:08 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
Replies: 43
Views: 4907

Re: Does thought create reality: I want to say farewell

Hi LiS, I guess it doesn't "appear" that way to me... That we must have polar opposite views from ramsters... The rub for me is usually when an idea starts to sound too "magical," too restrictive in thinking, too too too over the top in anyway... not real, in other words... What has been nagging me ...
by Marie
Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:53 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Does thought create reality: Indigo...I want to say farewell
Replies: 43
Views: 4907

Re: Does thought create reality

I dunno, I am kind of of the mind that someone writing a post with their beliefs -- very similar to rse beliefs -- and then claiming, not black magic, not witchcraft, but truth nonetheless and then leaving and then I'm not supposed to post my own opinion about that b/c the person is no longer here, ...
by Marie
Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:39 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Replies: 69
Views: 13717

Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?

For the record, my post was not directed to any one person in particular but a generalized sentiment that yes, I am free to post at any time.
by Marie
Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:37 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Replies: 69
Views: 13717

Re: Do Thoughts Create Reality?

I am dubious about jumping into this fray but since I do frequent this board I'll put in my two cents... take it or leave it. With all due respect, I do not see the "vitriol" or "hatred" in the PMs quoted above. They seem questioning and fairly benign to me. Annoyed maybe, at a stretch, but certainl...
by Marie
Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:42 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: Child abuse at RSE The Tank...a disturbing experience
Replies: 53
Views: 10041

Re: The Tank...a disturbing experience

I love when she breaks out in that little hobbit-like voice! hahaha.
by Marie
Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:16 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Do Thoughts Create Reality?
Replies: 69
Views: 13717

Re: The Law of Attraction - Thoughts Creating Reality?

I tend to agree that taking too much credit for the events in your day or the reactions, responses you get from others is bordering on the jz version of creating your own reality. Sure, honey attracts more flies than vinegar, that saying has been around long before jz appeared. But geez, give the re...
by Marie
Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:34 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: We traded our religion for a very fear based culture
Replies: 10
Views: 2466

Re: We traded our religion for a very fear based culture

Seriously, I am impresed with your level headedness, maturity and take on the world and life, given your parental roots in rse. I heard someone say one time it doesn't really matter if what I believe is true or not, what does matter is what that belief does, or doesn't do, for me. And if quality of ...
by Marie
Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:33 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: We traded our religion for a very fear based culture
Replies: 10
Views: 2466

Re: We traded our religion for a very fear based culture

Every time I hear the lizard reference I always think about when my mother lived with me and I had a pet lizard... She never said anything but I always wonder now if it scared her in a way I never imagined!
by Marie
Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:46 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Another doomsday cult story
Replies: 18
Views: 4781

Re: Another doomsday cult story

My mother was always a health nut... When I was a small, which was a long time ago, she used to make us eat wheat germ, take cod liver oil, never had fried foods and limited junk food as she could with two little begging children...:-)... Now I find boxes of Twinkies in the house because judy knight...
by Marie
Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:37 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Ramtha/JZ predictions that have never come to pass.
Replies: 6
Views: 3192

Re: Ramtha/JZ predictions that have never come to pass.

Seriously -- I'm with you!...It's not EVEN that I debate with them or start arguments or am the instigator in trying to poke holes... But when they come to me with ridiculous theories and just plain BS I will not silently nod and agree... That would be "enabling"...:-)..... I once told my mother tha...
by Marie
Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:44 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: New Scamtha Blog
Replies: 2
Views: 1745

Re: New Scamtha Blog

I like it! And I commend your motivation and efforts to get the word out about the fraud and try to save others the pain, humiliation and financial loss associated with jz knight. You must put a post up about the Twinkie Teachings! :lol:
by Marie
Thu Jun 30, 2011 2:59 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?
Replies: 45
Views: 17300

Re: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?

I understand the process of being indoctrinated into a cult. I have been following this board for three years and have read most of the topics more than once or twice. I don't deny my family the right to their beliefs. I do not instigate debates or attempt to lure them back home. Actually I never ha...
by Marie
Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:43 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?
Replies: 45
Views: 17300

Re: And the appeal of JZ Knight's message is...?

I have to respond to the post about always being gentle and loving to friends and loved ones still stuck in rse... This is not meant as a personal comment to the poster at all, it is just my own thoughts and feelings about that concept... As someone who has lost my mother, sister, brother in law, tw...
by Marie
Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:49 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: 17 HOUR EVENT
Replies: 19
Views: 3094

Re: 17 HOUR EVENT

Ockham -- regarding the Twinkies... The irony is that even though ramsters will SAY they "know" jz was joking or they "know" it's not true, despite that, I have found a huge box of Twinkies in my mother's cupboard, when she otherwise never ate them. It is that paradoxical, nonlogical cult behavior. ...
by Marie
Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:42 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: I am Lothar, I am such as Ramtha
Replies: 14
Views: 3201

Re: RSE is not a Cult...!

ex -- bwhahaha... too funny.... thanks for the laugh today! ;-)
by Marie
Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:30 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Alcohol kills the new brain
Replies: 8
Views: 2174

Re: Alcohol kills the new brain

Re june 15 -- a conversation I had with my mother about a month ago she said yes, the destruction was to begin on june 15 and she stated in no uncertain terms that she "did believe this to be true." She said she "knows not everyone does but she does and she's not afraid of death."... When I replied ...
by Marie
Sun May 08, 2011 3:44 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Prince Charles was on a "waiting list" to see Ramtha
Replies: 2
Views: 1583

Re: Prince Charles was on a "waiting list" to see Ramtha

I have no "inside info." I am not a "higher up, " connected to royal or political circles, the press or anything else of that nature... However, I do think it's safe to say that no one of any politcal, royal or celebrity stature has ever been interested in rse and blown off... Do you really think jz...
by Marie
Sun May 08, 2011 3:33 pm
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: In RSE- You can meet yourself after you are dead
Replies: 10
Views: 2278

Re: In RSE- You can meet yourself after you are dead

Well said, Free. That is exactly what it is.... convincing oneself that up is really down, black is really white, tapping your heals together two times will make you a butterfly, and ON and ON.
by Marie
Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:26 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: 3/31/11 'Ramtha' livestream quotes
Replies: 25
Views: 8145

Re: Who or what is Ramtha? 3/31/11 livestream quotes!

FYI -- I did speak with my mother a couple of days ago... I usually don't mention rse / ramtha / tdtc at all to her as it tends to only alienate... But because of the recent stream and amping up of the doom and gloom I wanted to see where she was with that... I told her I had "heard that jz was ampi...
by Marie
Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:43 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: 3/31/11 'Ramtha' livestream quotes
Replies: 25
Views: 8145

Re: Who or what is Ramtha?

I agree -- I'm over the whole "higher being" and "may the higher forces be with you" and "this is a fight between good and evil"... all sounds too close to the whole jz schtick to me, just another form of it....
by Marie
Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:45 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Jz loves her students so much-she can't have boyfriend
Replies: 9
Views: 2351

Re: Jz loves her students so much-she can't have boyfriend

bwhahaha... this always cracks me up whenever I see that... "JZ loves her students so much she can't have a boyfriend.'
by Marie
Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:50 am
Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
Topic: Sir Robert had sofa that JFK and Marilyn Monroe had sex in
Replies: 2
Views: 1616

Re: Sir Robert had sofa that JFK and Marilyn Monroe had sex

I always think about how "coincidental" it is that all of jz/ram's references, such as the couch, famous people, music, peace marches, etc etc., all come from the time frame of jz's youth/young adult/adult years... I remember when my mother used to tell me, "oh ramtha just loves music from the 60s" ...
by Marie
Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:02 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: RSE Student Deaths Threads 1 of 2
Replies: 33
Views: 13053

Re: RSE Student Deaths

I love what Joe Sz said once... You believe that a former satellite tv saleswoman channels a 35,000 year old warrior from lemuria who claims to be god and can foretell the future because .........SHE SAYS SO? Think about that.
by Marie
Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:55 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: The CIA measure the energy coming from the Ranch
Replies: 22
Views: 3011

Re: The CIA measure the energy coming from the Ranch

:lol: :lol: We love you. Don't be hard on yourself.
by Marie
Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:44 pm
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: Greetings, I am new.
Replies: 19
Views: 4046

Re: Greetings, I am new.

It has also been noted that many students said many things that weren't true but would make them "look" better if you know what I mean, Vanilla... ie, don't trust that every one who said ramtha came to them in a dream actually had that experience. Doesn't jz also teach to lie lie lie when it serves ...
by Marie
Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:08 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My story, first post. Therapy, if you will.
Replies: 12
Views: 2602

Re: My story, first post. Therapy, if you will.

Appealing, I said the same thing to myself while watching that last video! I was like, "wow, obviously that's a WIG" and if she HAD to wear one why such an obvious one? Interesting. Vanilla, in answer to your question about the lightening, I think that David's house or nearby did have a lightening e...
by Marie
Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:49 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart
Replies: 9
Views: 30136

Re: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart

Hi Vanilla, Sounds like your bf's mom was thrilled to finally have "you back." :lol: The more you read this board the more you will see that it takes many people a long time, if ever, to develop a belief system in "something else" after they have left a cult. There is a whole thread devoted to just ...
by Marie
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:37 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: JZ Knight-Ramtha doomsday quotes 2010
Replies: 6
Views: 2125

Re: JZ Knight-Ramtha doomsday quotes 2010

Keep posting, Vanilla....Your critical thinking is returning..... :D
by Marie
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:05 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: My story, first post. Therapy, if you will.
Replies: 12
Views: 2602

Re: My story, first post. Therapy, if you will.

Vanilla, Thank you SO MUCH for your post.. I know it took a lot of courage for you to post. Your efforts are not wasted. I understand and appreciate your fear. I was never in the school but have lost my mother, sister, aunt and uncle to the school. They are there now, waiting for the end of the worl...
by Marie
Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:44 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Latest News from RSE re. Japan
Replies: 35
Views: 4524

Re: Latest News from RSE re. Japan

wow.. pretty funny / sad / pathetic... I'm no spring chicken but I was surprised at how old most of the people there were!... I thought it would be easy to spot my mother because I figured she'd be one of the few "white heads" there.. wrong!.... A great majority of participants seemed to be well ove...
by Marie
Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:46 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Fear
Replies: 9
Views: 2334

Re: Fear

I'm very interested to know how Japan is being received in yelm. I was almost afraid to talk to my mother as I imagined that she would be near hysterics and be talking of nothing but the beginning of the end. When I spoke to her however, she was calm and appeared rational, making statements that thi...
by Marie
Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:31 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Robair coming out post
Replies: 6
Views: 9938

Re: Robair coming out post

Robair, you are my hero....:-) Thanks always for your honesty and courage. And if that reporter needs any more voices, please have her contact me! My mother and sister have been blabbering about "the days to come" for the past 10 years.... And that was exactly what precipitated their moves to Yelm. ...
by Marie
Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:42 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 5097

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

faith in God relies on a slim intuition at the borders of our testable reality."
Mine's been tested... god lost... ;-)
by Marie
Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:31 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 5097

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

My "bible" for the past year or so has been "Losing My Religion" by William Lobdell. I used to have what I considered a strong faith in "something" prior to losing my family to rse. I generally believed in god, attended a christian church, although never entirely subscribed to all the dogma, but it ...
by Marie
Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:03 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: And the beat goes on.....
Replies: 2
Views: 1387

And the beat goes on.....

To all of you who read this board regularly and know my story -- and those of you who don't or haven't, welcome! -- just a "family" update... My mother's sister and her husband just moved to Yelm. So now I have five family members stuck in the muck, my mother, my sister and her husband, and now my a...
by Marie
Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:12 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: JZ Rose Warehouse Giveaway
Replies: 10
Views: 2428

I thought it was interesting the song playing was "Dream a Little of Me".... it struck me as just another example of the huge narcissism... She is spreading "her self" outward.. so no one forgets her... Either that or she's getting on top of a bad hoarding habit!... :lol:
by Marie
Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:40 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: JZ Rose Warehouse Giveaway
Replies: 10
Views: 2428

I'm wondering why any of the students would need these things if the world as we know it is about to end? What fun is a designer dress and matching handbag if you're stuck in an underground bunker fending off lizard people and idiot villagers trying to get to get to your food source?
by Marie
Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:06 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Missed the boat
Replies: 99
Views: 16273

That's one boat I'm glad I'm not on! :shock:
by Marie
Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:39 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Many new Masters of Cards?
Replies: 45
Views: 7778

FMM, I think you are missing my point..... ;-) Three cards, 16 cards, 32 cards, cards with symbols, a real playing deck, it makes no difference ....My point is exactly what ex said above -- anyone -- my dog included, and that was a real story!! -- can pick or see through the right card, by chance......
by Marie
Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:33 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Many new Masters of Cards?
Replies: 45
Views: 7778

Many new Masters of Cards?

My most sincere apologies to freemymind. During moderation of a post on this thread I inadvertently removed the following post. Many thanks to littlewiseone who had a back up copy. Here is freemymind's post in its original form. Much love, Kensho Lynds (moderator) **********************************...
by Marie
Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:38 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: how do I deal with a partner still in the school?
Replies: 25
Views: 4710

At least one thing remains untouched, and that is my instinct. It kept me from falling too far down the rabbit hole. That is your critical thinking you kept intact. The emphasis on getting rid of your doubt in rse, is really "get rid of your critical thinking" and so that you will believe whatever ...
by Marie
Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:26 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Guess who's getting married - again
Replies: 8
Views: 2760

Bwahaha.... too funny! Glad to see you still have your sense of humor EMP!
by Marie
Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:15 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: how do I deal with a partner still in the school?
Replies: 25
Views: 4710

Hello, EMP -- thanks for your post! I appreciate the time you took to write. You hit many things regarding rse / JZ / students on the head and most of the community here can empathize with you.. I am not a current or past student but my mother and sister and her husband are in the school and have mo...
by Marie
Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:41 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
Replies: 20
Views: 5278

From what I recall, Cayce also taught that the human race was a "blend" of apes and "our enlightened spirit"....I remember my mother telling me this was in one of his books when I was little, back in the 60s.... something about "our spirits wanted to experience all the senses so we hovered around ap...
by Marie
Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:29 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion
Replies: 4
Views: 1880

William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion

Hey Joe,

Have you finished that book yet?.... :shock:

Thanks.
by Marie
Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:05 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Balloon Boy connected to RSE?
Replies: 3
Views: 1729

wow, he really does! My interest was piqued by the 2012 and underground bunker talk, but the reptilian people and government conspiracy theories leave little doubt! I wonder what all the buzz in yelm is about him?
by Marie
Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:52 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Balloon Boy connected to RSE?
Replies: 3
Views: 1729

Balloon Boy connected to RSE?

I heard on the radio this morning that the Heene's believe the world will end in 2012, and that they had launched this ballon hoax with their son hoping that the money they could make from it would pay for the underground bunker the want to build to survive 2012. Anyone know if they are any relation...
by Marie
Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:35 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Evidence of levitation in RSE
Replies: 16
Views: 3364

Bwhahaha, Cali Dreaming....I have been hearing almost exactly the same thing from my mother verbatim...."I guess it's all beginning to come together"...."I have just learned vital information"..... and "I'll write more when I come down from this high and can digest what I have just learned"....meani...
by Marie
Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:26 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: Medical advice from RSE
Replies: 5
Views: 2634

Hi Cat...your post on coral calcium was timely for me, as I had just been thinking the other day about it.... My sister had a tooth implant that went bad December of 2007.... She ended up getting a jaw infection from the implant and had to have the whole side of her jaw removed and bone from her hip...
by Marie
Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:15 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 3639

I hear what you mean about dogs but I am not so sure everyone feels the same about "their" dog. Hey Joe... I agree with you -- it struck me that in your post, the word "religion" could be substituted for "dog" and still make sense..... not everyone feels the same about their "religion" either!!.......
by Marie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:56 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Update?
Replies: 15
Views: 2758

Thank you!... :lol:
by Marie
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:47 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 3639

Disenchantment with prayer, etc., affects family members as well.....It has taken me probably a year to come to this place, but my belief in any "god" has gone by the way side as well... and actually I find it liberating.... .... I don't pray right now because there is still too much association bet...
by Marie
Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:38 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: The JZ Knight Collection
Replies: 30
Views: 6034

Makes one wonder why the sudden shedding....Is she planning on going somewhere?
by Marie
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:25 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Update?
Replies: 15
Views: 2758

Yes, a still hot looking Bruce Willis saves the day!.... :lol:
by Marie
Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:55 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Update?
Replies: 15
Views: 2758

G -- I saw "Surrogates" recently and that's what it reminded me of! No one actually DOES anything they all just stay in their rooms, in their pajamas and live their lives through surrogate robots they are hooked up to!... at the end -- spoiler alert --they all come wandering out into the street in b...
by Marie
Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:43 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: rhetoric
Replies: 12
Views: 2748

And if I remember correctly, Cunningham was not giving pointers on how to "get a clear bullet shot to JZ from the trees" but was speaking about JZ's OWN FEAR that someone doing that ...She makes up stories about how these imagined situations might come about, leading her students to think that her f...
by Marie
Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:33 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: rhetoric
Replies: 12
Views: 2748

And actually, now that I think about it...Jz has gone beyond threats .. as evidenced the times she has physically punched and beaten students during events, in view of the other students there.
by Marie
Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:28 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: rhetoric
Replies: 12
Views: 2748

Hello AreWe: From what I have gathered from ex students on this board, I would bet just the opposite to be true...People are so frightened from threats from R and JZ that they are afraid to leave rse...Afraid they "will be brought down" as R has verbally threatened... Afraid their worlds will come t...
by Marie
Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:11 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Update?
Replies: 15
Views: 2758

Good morning, Unbound... Thank you for your kind reply. I have not posted here regularly for awhile so you probably don't know my story, but my mother has been involved with rse for about 9 years....My sister has been involved for about 20 years, the first 10 or so being video tapes and books, atten...
by Marie
Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:26 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Update?
Replies: 15
Views: 2758

Update?

hi everyone, I was just curious if anyone has heard what the latest rumblings at the ranch are, as far as teachings etc...Same old stuff, variations on the same old stuff, or anything new... The reason I ask, is because I understand that my mother has been attending a lot of events since she moved t...
by Marie
Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:13 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: James Allen's Transformational Classic As A ManThinketh
Replies: 20
Views: 3975

I can recall seeing that book, "As a Man Thinketh," on our bookshelf the entire time I was growing up.... YEARS ago... I tried reading it once, but couldn't get through it... too much circular logic.... Ironic now that my mother is living in Yelm and preparing for the end of the world, not taking he...
by Marie
Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:46 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Do I Detect A Lie -- "Ramtha" JZ Knight
Replies: 19
Views: 4793

Judy gains the nickname of "Zebra" due to her ability to make black and white decisions; (this moniker was later to be abbreviated into the familiar "JZ").? I'm not even sure why they brag about this as if it's a good thing -- usually higher maturity levels and attributes associated with being "wis...
by Marie
Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:19 pm
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: These Red Flags woke me up
Replies: 5
Views: 3086

I love reading posts by recently ex- or soon to be ex-students who have attended recent events. It allows me a "fly on the wall" view of what my mother has been exposed to recently. Unfortunately, she can't tell me herself because she is still too immersed in the deception.
by Marie
Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:14 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 9478

Hi unbound...Thanks for your post, I think it helps to sort things out when you write them down -- but sometimes it just depresses one further :roll: .. It's probably good to have someone you can confide in, like a therapist, as has been suggested on this board in other places... Someone who can hel...
by Marie
Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:24 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 37206

I'm not a lawyer -- althought I work for one!! -- but I think it would be like trying to hold alcohol distributors and gun manufacuturers for related deaths... That's just my opinion, not the people i work for... Although i have talked briefly to them about what justice can be done and really, as lo...
by Marie
Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:31 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 37206

Grandpa... I know exactly how you feel, as you probably know from reading this board that I lost my entire family as well... My mother and sister directly to rse -- mom moved there last October -- and my aunts and uncles, mom's brother and sister and their respective spouses when I had the nerve to ...
by Marie
Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:12 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 37206

You know, what strikes me when reading this post is I'm not sure it makes any difference from where JZ lifted her material -- and I am not saying this in a flippant manner -- but I remember my mother talking about and reading Cayce since I was.... 6??.... Which was.........a LONG time ago....:-).......
by Marie
Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:14 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 28288

I will write more later too, but just wante to echo for now what CD said, that I do not believe R is a separate being / entity / life force... Personally, I am skeptical in general that other entities w/o physical bodies actually take over or inhabit human bodies, and it is from reading this board a...
by Marie
Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:29 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Blue College Retreat 2009
Replies: 7
Views: 2787

I heard it poured all week....
by Marie
Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:47 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Yelm's growth
Replies: 8
Views: 2144

Wouldn't it be interesting to see *just that* in the New York Times...."
Fortunately, she's just not that important.
by Marie
Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:51 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Blue College Retreat 2009
Replies: 7
Views: 2787

Tree said:
I am never too amazed to see the continual marketing spin of words and how it can entice students.
Amazing.
I think it's just...........[yawn]..........boooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrring!!
by Marie
Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:14 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed...?
Replies: 21
Views: 4734

) we would not get hooked on alcohol and 2) we would NOT GAIN WEIGHT Spoken like a true alcoholic!! Alcohol may or may not be "the crack" that evenually propels my mother toward leaving. Our family is familiar with alcoholism -- another red flag, ding ding ding! -- and she will either become turned...
by Marie
Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:19 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed...?
Replies: 21
Views: 4734

dissciplins are the brainwashtechnics Exactly -- I remember eight years ago when my mother was just starting to become involved, my sister telling ME, "you HAVE to make sure she does her disciplines in order for this work." My mother really wasn't that gung ho until she started doing the discipline...
by Marie
Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:33 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Colloidal silver..does it work?
Replies: 12
Views: 2796

Hi David,

I know nothing about the colloidol silver remedy, but do know that in regard to sinus infections, antibiotics do work!

Hope you're feeling better soon.
by Marie
Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:17 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: EMF 2008: THE YEAR IN REVIEW
Replies: 3
Views: 1730

Job well done, thank you all for being here. May the EMF community continue to grow in 2009. While my own family relations fell completely apart as a result of rse's influence -- my mother moved to Yelm, my sister no longer speaks to me, and my aunts and uncles, mom's brother and sister and their sp...
by Marie
Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:11 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: New Discipline Weekend
Replies: 7
Views: 2873

Sounds like "the best yet" - don't you dare miss it
Aren't they all?
by Marie
Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:07 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: DanceTheWind posted..
Replies: 28
Views: 5814

My dearest Splinter-Group-Guru Tree..... :lol: :lol: .. In seriousness, in response to your post above, I also think the arrogance and superiority are for some, or better said, "coming" from some, feels to me, like just another version of too many versions out there already of human insecurities try...
by Marie
Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:42 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Marjoe Gortner
Replies: 24
Views: 35571

There are some common characteristics/behaviors I?m coming to recognize about people who seem so charismatic i.e. you just like them almost immediately ? and you believe when they tell you how special they are in some special way ?and feel so compassionate when they tell you how much they?ve suffer...
by Marie
Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:56 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: NYE
Replies: 4
Views: 1877

Heck, you could even send a care package DURING her retreat with goodies in it. Send it to the Ranch c/o of the Maintenance Dept with a note saying it is for a participant. She would probably consider that quite the manifestation Hahaha -- I laughed out loud when I read that -- because she WOULD!.....
by Marie
Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:43 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: NYE
Replies: 4
Views: 1877

NYE

I spoke to mom a few minutes ago -- she is going to the arena tonight for the NYE teaching -- "creating your year"... It is freezing there, all that recent snow... and her back is killing her she tells me.... I can hear the wind blowing outside my own window -- I do not live near Yelm -- and the tem...
by Marie
Wed Dec 31, 2008 4:18 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: DanceTheWind posted..
Replies: 28
Views: 5814

Ramtha - "lord of the wind?" aka as nothing but a big phart...
Too funny, G2G!!

Happy New Year everyone. Take care of yourselves.
by Marie
Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:05 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Are Former Students Who "Talk" in Real Danger???
Replies: 42
Views: 7211

It's just that if you want to believe something, it becomes real, in your mind.
Mental hospitals, governments, malls, the WORLD -- is full of people who believe what they want, regardless of the realities.
by Marie
Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:44 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Feud Escalates
Replies: 1
Views: 1446

What a hoot -- it's like arguing with a brick!
by Marie
Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:28 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: NVN Article 11/7/08 - RSE Sewer Overtapped ...
Replies: 14
Views: 2689

I did not read the whole thing, just scanned .. so I apologize if I inadvertantly posted any material on the blog not relevant to this current discussion.... Below is the post from the above link CD provided: **************** November 8, 2008 COURT UPHOLDS LETTER OPINION - CITY CAN'T OPERATE "BUSINE...
by Marie
Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:57 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: PLEASE DON'T HATE ME - PLEASE FORGIVE ME
Replies: 79
Views: 12901

After all, we are ALL masters, here, but maybe of different specialties.
Hahaha, Grandpa!..... :wink:
by Marie
Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:43 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: PLEASE DON'T HATE ME - PLEASE FORGIVE ME
Replies: 79
Views: 12901

Another thing to keep in mind -- not all fantasies are bad for you, in fact, they are healthy ways of helping us cope.. Just because Judith Knight SAID that you create your own reality with your thoughts, does NOT make is so.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
by Marie
Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:40 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: PLEASE DON'T HATE ME - PLEASE FORGIVE ME
Replies: 79
Views: 12901

In speaking with Joe Sz once, he mentioned it's typical for family members' reaction to want to "get rid" of the problem, although it is a very impractical reaction for obvious reasons......My impression was it was a normal, human reaction. As SadGrandpa said, we want to protect our loved ones from ...
by Marie
Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:51 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: recycled ignorance
Replies: 5
Views: 1956

also, i see that all current students are being invited to join blue college Yep, broke my heart this time last year when my mother announced with a proud gleam in her eye that "she had been invited to join Blue College" still believing it was some sort of elite group and that she had passed muster...
by Marie
Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:49 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Orbs: The Debate
Replies: 31
Views: 6152

Life is precious, We are precious, and to walk with honor and love is the greatest gift we can give to our self and each other; That?we really are all one, and one family of love. And when my special day arrives.. and I find myself leaving this beautiful world, and those that I love? It will be? A ...
by Marie
Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:06 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Australia Workshop with Ramtha
Replies: 15
Views: 3932

You're not letting ME down, AussieGirl!.... I vote no anyway.... I am with you, that it is a complete waste of time and money...The only two cents I'd spend on JZ Knight, are the ones that come with my opinions!

:wink: :wink:
by Marie
Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:05 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: RSE officials lash out at Glen Cunningham interview
Replies: 21
Views: 3612

Bravo to Glen for speaking out. I keep wondering what my mother is thinking in the middle of all this, if and how it is affecting her..... When does Blue College start? This weekend coming up? I HOPE she's thinking "I've been in Yelm all of one week and it's all already falling down around me!! Drat...
by Marie
Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:58 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Religulous and Washington Post Article on Gold
Replies: 0
Views: 1364

Religulous and Washington Post Article on Gold

New movie coming out that looks hysterical to me.... http://www.lionsgate.com/religulous/ and an article in today's Washington Post on gold.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/29/AR2008092903257.html?hpid=artslot Must be a heady time for all end-of-the-world-as-we-know-i...
by Marie
Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:03 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: People who've "seen" Ramtha
Replies: 21
Views: 5321

Wonder what the great sword was made of
Syrofoam?? Knight's imagination??..... :lol:
by Marie
Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:44 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Mom's Move
Replies: 4
Views: 1975

Yep, not much to say that hasn't been said before. Thank you both for your kind words.

Whatcha -- interesting you mentioned she and I being in "opposite" parental / child roles -- I have felt our relationship was always more upside down that way than not.
by Marie
Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:54 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Mom's Move
Replies: 4
Views: 1975

something she really believes in.......[
I meant to say "believes in" is really a debateable term at this point, since it is MY belief that she no longer is really making decisons based on critical thinking and "free will."
by Marie
Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:16 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Mom's Move
Replies: 4
Views: 1975

Mom's Move

I haven't had time to write indepth lately, and of course as everyone knows, you could write a BOOK... but wanted to catch people up.... Mom is leaving permenantly for yelm this Sunday.... As far as I know she'll be staying initially at a house my sister owns there, but also rents to two current stu...
by Marie
Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:57 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: RSE Fact or Fiction?
Replies: 35
Views: 6698

What keeps coming to my mind in the "does it work" or "doesn't it work" debate, is really, the whole need for anything to work in the first place is more about control than anything else... Wanting more control over one's life... It seems to me, that it is healthier emotionally and psychological to ...
by Marie
Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:00 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: JZK vs. Weaver: my Opinion
Replies: 47
Views: 9539

?Everything else is sour grapes.?
I'm thinking the only sour grape here is the alkie who drinks all that red wine and defines love and "enlightenment" by how much she can charge per head.
by Marie
Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:52 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Tahoma Terra Claims RSE is Overtappintg Water Supply
Replies: 12
Views: 2187

?This whole child mentality of throwing mud is ridiculous.? Hmmmmmmmm...... which is more ridiculous?? Holding accountable an "organization" that draws "thousands" of people to its conferences by ensuring that organization is in compliance with county and state regulations so as not to endanger oth...
by Marie
Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:08 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Need help! Parents are Ramsters!
Replies: 13
Views: 3293

Dave -- Your story made me laugh and want to cry at the same time !!... Thanks for taking the time to post.... I can relate to MUCH of what you said......My mother is 74 and plans to live well past 100...!!... sigh...... My mother, and family, is much like yours.... Always been a little different, b...
by Marie
Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:46 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Need help! Parents are Ramsters!
Replies: 13
Views: 3293

BigDave, hi and welcome to this forum -- I don't have time to give the response I'd like to your post, but can't at this moment -- because I have other stuff I need to do -- you are not alone... I have a mother, sister and brother in law heavily into rse .. My mother is moving to yelm the end of thi...
by Marie
Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:52 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Origination of Nomenclature
Replies: 9
Views: 2890

mm mm mm.... That is hysterical!

I can't decide if rse is a documentary, a mockumentary, a sitcom, a soap opera or a silly reality show!....
by Marie
Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:34 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Thank you
Replies: 6
Views: 2401

I'm not sure it's even all that complicated. I think they're still just in the honeymoon phase.
by Marie
Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:09 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Missed the boat
Replies: 99
Views: 16273

Re: Orbs, videos, pics, etc....... My mother's response to my questions about rse, orbs, levitation, etc., is always the same "but I've seen the PICTURES and the VIDEOS"...... I am a graphic designer and have to always remind her.... "Ever hear of PHOTOSHOP????" You can REALLY create your day with A...
by Marie
Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:18 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Book
Replies: 10
Views: 2758

And I did not read the word "deconversion" as being all that literal.... Just as a sort of short hand or other way of illustrating or describing the process.. It did not imply to me being "converted against one's will or wishes"... just a process of going in the opposite direction as one went prior....
by Marie
Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:15 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Book
Replies: 10
Views: 2758

It is not like a revivalistic Christian conversion experience.
Hmmm.... yeah, I didn't read it that way, but I can see how the word "rejoices" can carry that implication... I guess I just took it as being very relieved, happy to be free of the mind trap, etc....
by Marie
Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:10 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Book
Replies: 10
Views: 2758

Also wanted to say, never really thought of Unity Church as "new agey" but of course I do not know the history.. Makes sense it is a "new thought" kind of church... I was, in fact, married in a Unity church quite a long time ago and my husband, now ex, refused to go to any other church for YEARS I g...
by Marie
Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:03 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Book
Replies: 10
Views: 2758

One rejoices in a new identity.? Hi Tree....:-) It does not happen overnight, as maybe this phrase implies -- but I have seen you do a fair amount of rejoicing since leaving rse!.....And that is a GOOD thing.... :wink: On another note -- I am somewhat surprised -- although I guess I shouldn't be --...
by Marie
Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:24 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Missed the boat
Replies: 99
Views: 16273

I find myself perplexed by the timing of this comment (i.e., immediately after I shared my new realizations with her). How can this be explained?????? Sometimes it seems like the better idea to search for "explanations" than to just accept that in life we have such limited or no control over other ...
by Marie
Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:42 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Book
Replies: 10
Views: 2758

Book

Joe Sz mentioned a book in a post recently that he was reading / reviewing about different "movements" or followings, including Joel Osteen -- I can't recall anyone else mentioned, except of course, JZ got a couple of paragraphs... I can't remember the name of the book, and can't find the post -- ca...
by Marie
Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:42 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Dang, These ads get me......
Replies: 5
Views: 2111

ex -- you are so funny..... :lol:
by Marie
Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:20 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Remarkable Students of RSE
Replies: 20
Views: 6397

I HAVE seen my DOG -- as I have said before in this forum -- pick the right cards out a handful on more than one occassion 90% of the time.....How special does that make HIM? He's just very empathic -- read Dr. Michael Fox's books on dogs and cats, his theory is that because animals cannot communica...
by Marie
Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:57 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Blue Body - instructions
Replies: 16
Views: 4238

:wink: , Aussiegirl..... I know whatcha mean!.... hugs.
by Marie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:08 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Experience with my sister
Replies: 21
Views: 4475

"you ARE at peace".... geez..... :lol:
by Marie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:07 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Experience with my sister
Replies: 21
Views: 4475

my main point which is how wonderfully freeing it is to not have that f?ing commentary running around in my head anymore ?it?s gone .. totally gone ?and I feel, well, 10 years younger
OM -- YAY!....:-).... I'm glad you at peace.
by Marie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:32 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Blue Body - instructions
Replies: 16
Views: 4238

Also -- I think when you have beliefs that are so nonconventional, ie, lizard aliens, orbs, fairies, teleporting, levitating, creating one's own reality and the rest of the world be damned, etc....it's a little naive to posture yourself with shock and surprise that anyone would challenge those belie...
by Marie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:50 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Blue Body - instructions
Replies: 16
Views: 4238

Hi Wake-Up....I know I come across as a little sarcastic here, but USUALLY when dealing with my family, I try not to step on the toes of their beliefs... I think I just politely declined the offer from my sister, don't remember what I said exactly, but something along the lines of, well, thanks, I'm...
by Marie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:39 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Cults - The Wave .. a Movie
Replies: 9
Views: 3031

Tree.... Awesome.

I'm so happy, proud of you.......You have a great amount of courage and are an inspiration to many.
by Marie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:49 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Blue Body - instructions
Replies: 16
Views: 4238

A few years ago I tore my shoulder rotary cuff in three places -- very painful and left me not able to use that arm for awhile.... However, my dear sister being the god she is, offered to heal my shoulder for me.... Although, she let me know that for her to do so, would be EXTREMELY tiring for her a...
by Marie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:35 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: On Being "Special"
Replies: 5
Views: 3024

I love this "special" topic because it all makes so much sense to me......being the "special" person that I am...[ahem]...:-) My brief thoughts / opinions on this subject: 1. Feeling special is actually an old surivival skill / instinct -- the more special one is, the closer to the leader of the pac...
by Marie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:42 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: The "Myth" of Ramtha
Replies: 22
Views: 5399

I recall reading in either Margaret Singer's book, Cult's Among Us, or Peter Olsson's book, Malignant Pied Pipers, or both, that part of the cult indoctrination or process is to suggest or manipulate in subtle ways that one rewrite one's own personal history so that it gives one more of a reason to ...
by Marie
Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:37 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: What is EnergySM?
Replies: 17
Views: 2627

Gladys is a character who is the maid in one of the body's cells.
It always comes back to the TV Ms. Knight has been watching!.... Sounds like the old TV show about the maid named "Hazel"....About that same time period, there was another sitcom about a couple named Pete and Gladys.
by Marie
Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:49 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Evidence of Reincarnation Conference Marina Del Rey CA
Replies: 20
Views: 3646

and Laurel & Hardy.
Bwhahahahaha..... :lol:
by Marie
Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:44 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Self Marketing
Replies: 5
Views: 1727

sitting and praying about the perfect job/chocolate cake/vacation/whatever, and expecting it's going to knock on your door cuz you're so special and you're God and you Said So, isn't going to get it done. If it were that simple, humans would have figured out the plan, long ago. Whatcha, Reminds me ...
by Marie
Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:47 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Self Marketing
Replies: 5
Views: 1727

instead of helping people in a concrete fashion, at RSE it appears that the belief is that one need only send positive, healing, blue light energy to help and heal unfortunate people and world situtations Agreed, LiS.... There isn't a lot of actual "doing".... Most of the "enlightenment" and "bless...
by Marie
Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:43 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: CIA and Judi
Replies: 8
Views: 3099

If your a blatant liar Ramtha will save you. If you are a closet liar he will keep bringing you back to the Ranch to extract your C and E and $.
Too funny.
by Marie
Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:21 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: CIA and Judi
Replies: 8
Views: 3099

And it makes a good story for JZ.
by Marie
Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:20 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: CIA and Judi
Replies: 8
Views: 3099

Well, you are assuming that he was actual CIA is truth -- There are many, many people out there who claim to be "CIA" but it is all in their head...
by Marie
Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:51 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Wayne Allen Geis Acting Cult
Replies: 35
Views: 16257

Talks like Dr Farber's got me thinking about the plight of someone like JZ who was admittedly severely abused as a kid. Interesting to note that now her personality is completely invaded and overridden by a capricious, possesive male entity that she in her subconscious created and recreates. It fit...
by Marie
Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:34 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

LWO -- and everyone else who responded.... you are all sweeties, thanks so much for letting me vent and giving me support! :roll:
by Marie
Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:33 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

LWO -- Yes, I have previously considered almost every point you raised -- what would she do if she found out and how would that now affect our relationship??... I guess it's safe to say that our relationship, as well as my relationship with other family members because of her and my sister's influen...
by Marie
Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:44 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

LWO -- absolutely I am reading her mails.....Trust between us was compromised when I discovered more about rse through this board, and attemped discussion with my mother and her family, and was promptly shut down.. At that time -- and still -- I cannot trust what she tells me, as she says one thing ...
by Marie
Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:36 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

I can't thank you all enough for your words and support... It really means a lot in this stressful time.
by Marie
Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:15 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

Thanks for the response, Whatcha... I'm in a very meloncholy, sad mood today... I finally made an appointment to see a therapist about some of "all this" with my family.... I had been putting it off for the past year since I found out the magnitude of the belief system / cult behavior of rse, becaus...
by Marie
Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:45 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Pink Bands
Replies: 33
Views: 4397

When you are "on the outside" it's hard to tell what a current student "really" believes... My mother tells me that my sister is into the whole TDTC thing than she is... That "she, my mother, doesn't really believe it".... I think I get this from her because she knows on some level how stupid it all...
by Marie
Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:04 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: judgemental thinking
Replies: 32
Views: 4057

Hi Tree... Sometimes human behavior is just "human behavior".... I had exactly the same thing happen to me by a painting contractor once... I was doing some painting for a woman I knew -- I did professional faux finishing at that time -- she had contacted me because she did not trust the prices anot...
by Marie
Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:47 pm
Forum: EMF Debate Forums - Rules For Posting, How to post, Registration Agreement Terms and Contact Info
Topic: EMF POSTING GUIDELINES Registration Agreement Terms
Replies: 6
Views: 7500

Mods, Thanks for the board and all of your unpaid efforts thereof... We don't all always agree -- such is the spice of life!..... :lol: But I am glad to have someplace to go to read and connect with others about rse issues... .. which wouldn't be possible without this board and the people behind it.
by Marie
Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:44 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: What IS enlightenment??
Replies: 33
Views: 7620

I confess I have not read all the posts on this thread yet either -- but needed to add, that this dilemma affects family members as well.. I had always considered my faith in god, a higher power, a good and loving "vibe" to be pretty rock solid... I don't subscribe to a particular religion, and my p...
by Marie
Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:08 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Tyger has been banned
Replies: 21
Views: 6651

Bud -- good to hear..... I would like to hear more from you in the future.
by Marie
Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:40 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: a _____ (you fill in the blank) story
Replies: 39
Views: 4951

"You could be having a discussion with a Ramster about the amount of lead in a pencil,
and they will come up with hair-pulling, maddening off-the-wall logic."

Bingo!
by Marie
Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:21 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: a _____ (you fill in the blank) story
Replies: 39
Views: 4951

True enough....... There is no logic involved -- all logic and critical thinking has gone out the window... The only acceptable statements are ones that agree with what they want to do and the whacky rhetoric that has been implanted in their minds by JZ.... Many, many times I have experienced the in...
by Marie
Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:54 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: If the World Doesn?t end, be Suspicious
Replies: 5
Views: 1339

Bottomline..........

C u l t s in
O u r
N e i g h b o r h o o d s
by Marie
Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:03 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Calvary Baptist Church & RSE
Replies: 5
Views: 1137

Whatcha, That's a compelling link.... ..the story / letters are so so familiar.
by Marie
Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:00 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: a _____ (you fill in the blank) story
Replies: 39
Views: 4951

This thread is SO funny -- I wish I could share these stories with my mother!!.... :cry:
by Marie
Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:17 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Tyger has been banned
Replies: 21
Views: 6651

HI Cooee, This board has gone 'round before about all of the -- in my opinion -- valid points in your post, ie, that there is a definite sense of what is and what isn't acceptable on this board in the way of opinions and posts with everything from "no rse sympathizers allowed" to even just saying ou...
by Marie
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:27 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Breathing
Replies: 9
Views: 3306

Hey Whatcha, I know it is the breathing associated with the disciplines, because I can actually hear the breathing -- loud loud intakes and loud loud whooshing out -- when she is in her bedroom with the door closed and I am even on another floor of the house!.... I asked her once, "what's that noise...
by Marie
Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:18 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Breathing
Replies: 9
Views: 3306

Breathing

I was speaking with a friend and mentioned that I thought all the heavy breathing my mother is doing, the C&E, was having affects on it, ie, making her spacey and confused, disoriented, etc...and he asked me what the difference was between hyperventilating and deep breathing, which is what I can act...
by Marie
Fri May 23, 2008 2:42 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Spouses and partners involved with RSE
Replies: 22
Views: 5287

zyxwv -- I'm glad to hear your ex has been able to see through the muck! ... My family -- mom, sis, bro in law, continue to be heavily involved and are still planning their move to Yelm, as they are SURE that the end is "coming soon" and "very quickly"..... sigh.
by Marie
Wed May 21, 2008 9:40 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Gray Men and World Banking
Replies: 0
Views: 1542

Gray Men and World Banking

Reading through another post, I think it was David's, mentions teachings from about 20 years ago, of chaos in the world economy and destruction of it by way of "the gray men"....I recall about 20 years ago my sister showing me a video of a panel of men in suits sitting at a table talking... and talk...
by Marie
Wed May 21, 2008 9:23 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Update on Mom, Sis and TDTC
Replies: 0
Views: 1499

Update on Mom, Sis and TDTC

I don't want to make this a long post so it might seem a little disjointed, but I think those that read here will understand what I'm saying. First, my sister's jaw bone infection seems to be under control, they will not know for sure for a few months. She has an appointment this month to schedule a...
by Marie
Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:15 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: RSE Student Deaths Threads 1 of 2
Replies: 33
Views: 13053

Whatcha -- this is awesome, I can't read the whole thing now, but it looks promising!... Thanks much.
by Marie
Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:14 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: RSE Student Deaths Threads 1 of 2
Replies: 33
Views: 13053

Hi all -- Hopefully this post will not fall into the "student death" category yet, but reading this thread made me want to post an update on my sister who has been attending events for the past 8 or so years but who I believe has been studying RSE for much longer than that, maybe around the past 16 ...

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