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by See&E
Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:06 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
Replies: 20
Views: 5275

Required Reading Books

Caterpillar

J.Zerox indeed used to send out letters this time of year with the required or top books of the year.
The Gods of Eden and all of the many other books by same, were available and sold at the 'annex'. Along with
new age music on the list.
by See&E
Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:10 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: elizabeth prophet dies
Replies: 3
Views: 1779

And in the end...

Thanks for the update and post Joe. I think it's time for my long contemplated funeral pyre, and i'll burn all my CUT books, decrees, KOF, POW, and then Follow with the plethora of RSE books, tapes, cd, dvd... 35 years of being mislead and mistrusting those who convinced me of their authority to spe...
by See&E
Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:23 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: DISCIPLINES
Replies: 4
Views: 2285

Disciplines Equestrian and

Discipline is a word that is also used in equestrian circles, perhaps when the horse business didn't pan out, and the Arabian business enterprise didn't work out, training two legged animals versus four legged animals, to learn "disciplines" instead of horses, was a natural, given the owners could l...
by See&E
Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:52 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: What is ASTARA?
Replies: 8
Views: 3430

Compost Heaps circa 1930 that proliferated books followers

Joe, Interesting lead on Spalding. I also had heard some time ago that he had met with and/or had dinner with another popular spiritualist-guru who claimed not to be a guru... that I'm sure you'll recall ... Krisnamurti. The infamous DeVorss publishing era and the spiritual marketing of it's authors...
by See&E
Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:39 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 37201

Stop Lights Red Yellow Green Blue Leads

Tree, Something I never really understood. Once upon a time, in the teachings of 35K yrs ago, and the great march there was the 'red guard' or what have you. Terms that were mentioned in school like: Red Guard Staff (I'll skip all the various groups, as I've posted on the old board about those) now ...
by See&E
Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:01 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Just wondering ...
Replies: 167
Views: 37201

Caterpillar, Just reading your posts for the first time, and it appears that all of your questions have been addressed or answered. I just wanted to share (as the others here have already) that we "all" have been there, and from time to time, may still be. In time, with more and more distance, it is...
by See&E
Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:31 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 'Ramtha The White book'
Replies: 10
Views: 3261

Douglas Mahr

Was this similar to Douglas Mahr's one or two Ramtha books?

Joe, do you know who he (Douglas) and whatever became of him?
by See&E
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:28 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blueheeler posted
Replies: 45
Views: 7657

Congratulations

Congratulations Grandma Watcha,

(------waves back--------)

Great news!

See&E
by See&E
Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:06 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: blueheeler posted
Replies: 45
Views: 7657

There are many, many gems, words of wisdom, and heart-felt sharing on this thread, and this particular thread, certainly is sharing the essence, the potential benefit of continuing to read and participate on EMF. The pain, the fear, the anger, and the grief of living on the cusp of, or having left t...
by See&E
Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:08 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Anyone remember "Rockwork"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2774

Do you Grok Rocks?

Speaking of old timers and rocks I kept mine (frequency specific of course, like everything else was supposed to be) "Let the rock choose you... uh huh..." Anyway, years ago, to laugh at the folly of ever again paying someone time and money, to learn the secret of life... I painted on the rock on on...
by See&E
Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:04 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Are Former Students Who "Talk" in Real Danger???
Replies: 42
Views: 7209

Bee Leafs

JTR, Thanks for the chuckle also! IT also has always reminded me of how the many documented cases of various people, soldiers, who have been living under war conditions (e.g. WWII, other conflicts) at some point... years... even decades after the war ended, slowly, carefully come out and encounter t...
by See&E
Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:32 pm
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Entertainment Humor Only: Laughter is Intent
Replies: 2
Views: 1801

Happy Halloween

Happy Halloween!

Tarot Carot Solomon!

See&E
by See&E
Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:57 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Entertainment Humor Only: Laughter is Intent
Replies: 2
Views: 1801

Entertainment Humor Only: Laughter is Intent

These links are offered for humor (that is as in laughter, spasms of the diaphram) because this EMF Area says, "Laughter, A Healthy Part of Moving On" It seems the tale of 1966 in Rachel KS involving eye witnesses and the Psychic Occult group there (wink/grin) tell a tale that could happen in many t...
by See&E
Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:39 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Would RSE students drink the kool-aid ??
Replies: 4
Views: 2004

organization) 11) Pay $1000 for a reserved square of astroturf up front in RSE 12) Pay between $10k and $200k for the chance to talk directly to the class instructor, Ramtha This flies in the face of the whole explanation of WHY Ramtha didn't, doesn't appear to us, in order that he avoid people "wor...
by See&E
Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:05 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Is RSE A Cult? thread 1.
Replies: 128
Views: 32923

PETS

oh yes, ... the PETS Pets (Cats & Dogs) were only for those people who wanted to be in first three seal consciousness (wanted to CONTROL their lack of love live). Those who had failed relationships, (women and cats was often used as an example) kept the cats, because it allowed affection on their ow...
by See&E
Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:01 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Is RSE A Cult? thread 1.
Replies: 128
Views: 32923

Blue Body & Pets

One additional period, post Construction paper "UV" healing, and the analogical dance, after you created an index card with blue webs (like a spider...) connected to blue body... We were told to draw blue pentagrams on each others foreheads initially. This was a variation of the original C&E breathi...
by See&E
Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:17 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: the nature of reality
Replies: 2
Views: 1792

C+E-->R

How bout, Consciousness and Energy create the nature of PERSONAL Reality That was in my notes in the early years. This was a variation from the Tony Robbins "notes & teachings" at seminars (in years before the foundation of the school (who learned them from Jim Rohn) where, Wherever you put your FOC...
by See&E
Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:17 pm
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: The Genuine Philosopher's Stone: The Internet
Replies: 2
Views: 2438

The Genuine Philosopher's Stone: The Internet

The Authentic & Genuine PHILOSOPHER's STONE: The Power & Enlightenment of the Cyber Realms* *Previously Only Granted to Avatars, Masters, Mystics, Charlatans, Leaders of Church & State When the world we lived only offered communication via Personal Stories & recollections The Invention of The Print...
by See&E
Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:17 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: The Wisdom Available From the Rear-View Mirror
Replies: 3
Views: 1778

The Wisdom Available From the Rear-View Mirror

Greetings EMF readers! Happy Hallow'Een Month of Things Designed to Scare, Frighten, or Entertain You... As I was hiking in the mountains and foothills of Boulder this past week, I had the humorous, enlightenment and reflection-- which was granted only through exercise, nature, and the incense of Pi...
by See&E
Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:29 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Frustration
Replies: 13
Views: 2801

Places in the Heart

Journey, Tree, and all~ Thanks for your timely post. Your reflection upon how you might have chosen your words, actions, or lack of action ... differently regarding how you might have saved or prevented lost time, years, money, but more than that, the slow parasitic growth that in time overgrows one...
by See&E
Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:31 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: RSE Fact or Fiction?
Replies: 35
Views: 6695

lol

so THAT's what those blindfolds were all about all those years! lol
by See&E
Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:24 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: email from Greg Simmons
Replies: 12
Views: 3625

New Events Scheduled MEERKATS (SM), Quantum Mechanic (SM),

There has just been an new cyber event called after the exciting new teachings and deeper understand of the QUANTUM MECHANIC (SM), and MEERKATZ (SM) and a guest cyber speaker who actually travelled back thru the space-time- cortinium and tri-laterally re-located over the cyber-grid gossamer thread t...
by See&E
Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:07 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: email from Greg Simmons
Replies: 12
Views: 3625

The Teaching of the Quantum Mechanic & Numismatic Folly

One of the long-time mandates of various religions, cults, and militias (all translating to fear and conspiracies causing previously 'normal' people to become fanatical) is the 'sell everything and turn it into gold, silver, precious metals. This is not anything new, but personally experienced this ...
by See&E
Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:56 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Missed the boat
Replies: 99
Views: 16267

Welcome Swamibinton, I hope that you will continue to post in this current student debate forum (thread) if you are sincerely interested in either learning critical thinking skills, or retrurning to them (as Tree shared with you). If your primary reason for posting was to see if you might score any ...
by See&E
Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:05 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: being willing to ask tough questions
Replies: 5
Views: 3204

Thank you Inquire-Me-Free for your gentle and thoughtful sharing. Just this morning, I was contemplating just how far back any of us as individuals, as a society, or even historically, would have to go to discover a time when we were not subtly conditioned to have the need and compelling desire to s...
by See&E
Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:53 pm
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: Cults and their Mind Control Techniques / RSE Parody Website
Replies: 18
Views: 4307

Power of Suggestion Mind Control Hypnosis Google Links

A simple google of ?power of suggestion? will provide many links with various information. I have no doubt whatsoever the people are very sincere in their belief that they see, hear, remember or Anticipate all manner of suggested beliefs which the ?soil? of the mind can often grow into the experienc...
by See&E
Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:37 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: The Story Of Chicken Little
Replies: 4
Views: 2011

The Story Of Chicken Little

http://www.geocities.com/mjloundy/

If you don't have a copy of Chicken Little in your library or home, here is one
of many links to review this parable.

Of course, if it is not exciting enough, one can always read
"The Ant & The Grasshopper"
by See&E
Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:59 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: RSE, Raelians, and anti-Catholicism
Replies: 31
Views: 7909

Joan of Arc, Will the real Joan please stand up...

[Joe shares] "Of course, comparisons between the two groups will break down easily in many details but I think it is interesting that for most female cult leaders to gain power there still has to be a prominent male presence. Blavatsky had 5 "masters" all male. Penny Torres has Mafu; Liz Prophet had...
by See&E
Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:41 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: How can I keep my daughter from taking the grand kids to the
Replies: 18
Views: 4925

Alternative Choices

Dear Sad Grandfather, Perhaps you and/or your son-in-law might get results by providing the opportunity for the grandkids to have other options presented to them. This works really well if they have other friends, or kids about their own age (or a little older) that can offer to do fun things with t...
by See&E
Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:33 am
Forum: RSE SCAMS, FRAUD & PONZI SCHEMES Sea-11 Water Scam
Topic: Sea-11 Reference
Replies: 27
Views: 7011

Clustered Water?

Is this the same period when they were selling "clustered" water which you
had to make and keep in your refrigerator?? Or is this the same product du event?
Thanks
by See&E
Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:30 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: What does the tree know that YOU don't know?
Replies: 2
Views: 2066

Can't See&E the Forest for the Trees

Dear Tree, Is this how you chose your nom de plume? (just kidding) Yes, I remember the Tree question in the great hall in the making (cough cough... dust in the air) At the same time, during the self-help, motivational inspiration era, a very well known billionaire international speaker, business co...
by See&E
Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:22 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: What IS enlightenment??
Replies: 33
Views: 7619

Enlightenment & Mastery

For me, Enlightenment was both the journey and the promised manifest goal that would happen. In the beginning, even if we never came back into the audience, we were told we could find enlightenment. When the school was marketed and reorganized after the bomb scare and end of the dialogue era... it c...
by See&E
Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:41 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: a _____ (you fill in the blank) story
Replies: 39
Views: 4951

UG Rememberance Hoodwinked Helpers

Tree, yes I remember the original secretive mandate! omg! One event I flew in and was invited to stay at the home of a member who was out of the country. What was curious, in spite of all the secrecy, when I arrived, there was a nice welcome note informing me of how to make myself at home for the tr...
by See&E
Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:22 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: For your Entertainment & Consideration: Time Reveals All
Replies: 7
Views: 1463

I agree with both 2cents each shared. Thanks! I add it and say ditto. Again, my only reason in sharing the link was as I came upon it by accident, there were examples of people using headsets and pretending to heal, etc. I also think that skeptics who attempt to debunk everything (including science,...
by See&E
Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:14 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: For your Entertainment & Consideration: Time Reveals All
Replies: 7
Views: 1463

For your Entertainment & Consideration: Time Reveals All

In the 70's and 80's there were many people claiming psychic powers. There were millions upon millions of people who believed in the "scientifically documented" powers of Uri Geller and others. For at least decades, if not centuries & millenea, faith healthers have provided a place in our societies ...
by See&E
Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:40 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Brain Neuroanatomy Personal Account of Consciousness TED.com
Replies: 5
Views: 1263

Brain Neuroanatomy Personal Account of Consciousness TED.com

Neuroanatomist Jill Bolte Taylor had an opportunity few brain scientists would wish for: One morning, she realized she was having a massive stroke. As it happened -- as she felt her brain functions slip away one by one, speech, movement, understanding -- she studied and remembered every moment. This...
by See&E
Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:47 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: Spouses and partners involved with RSE
Replies: 22
Views: 5285

Hi Kryptonite, Congratulations for your caring enough to stand up, set your boundaries, and attempt to explain and reason with your partner. The challenge is, given the type of mind set that develops over time, it almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy to the faithful follower when they are chall...
by See&E
Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:13 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Who lies behind the eyes ???
Replies: 39
Views: 8537

G2G, the whole Jesus channelling was very different from the others. Not what one would expect. It was the one and only time that it was attempted. Like many other things, in years later, there were always different different teachings about who/what Jesus really was, ranging from a composite of 13 ...
by See&E
Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:53 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Myths of Christian Fundamentalism
Replies: 4
Views: 1190

deliverance

Maybe this whole followers thing has been going on forever.
What about all those in the Biblical story who were finally set
free and led by 'Moses' (after parting the red sea) only to wander in the desert for ...
.... 40 (symbolic) years... ??? :lol: j/k
by See&E
Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:48 pm
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: JZ won't provide medical insurance to staff and their CHILDREN
Replies: 7
Views: 1933

time & money

Thought for the day:
If you were at the required retreat this week (to remain current), you would have spent over 1k US$ plus food, transportation costs (airfare/rental car/gas), 'supplies?', and at least a week vacation time.
by See&E
Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:06 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Happy Spring
Replies: 2
Views: 809

Happy Spring

Just wanted to wish everyone (in the Northern Hemisphere) a very Happy Spring!

See&E
by See&E
Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:15 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Books, & Notes
Replies: 0
Views: 1307

Books, & Notes

Any suggestions on what one might do to free themselves of Decades (with a capitol D and ending the plural) of all manner of Books, Audio, VHS tape, booklets, materials from various authors, teachings, correspondences, notes, on the nearly lifelong journey to enlightenment? I recall a scene in the r...
by See&E
Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:29 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Prophet's remorse
Replies: 2
Views: 2142

Thanks Joe

Thanks Joe for the links to Seans ongoing documentation & journey. I wondered what happened to him. I also enjoyed the links you shared and this one: http://www.blacksunjournal.com/science/847_atheist-metaphysics-and-religious-equivocation_2007.html from the Blacksunjournal. It sounds as though ECP ...
by See&E
Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:59 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Fox News Whistle Blowers
Replies: 3
Views: 1918

Fox News Whistle Blowers

This is about 10 minutes long, but worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc
by See&E
Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:19 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Blue College February 2008
Replies: 11
Views: 4460

David, lol! Yes... and remember that we were actually doing transmutation of the dust into saffron dust or ?gold dust? It was mentioned that someday, if we did our disciplines righteously we would be sitting on saffron dust.. cough cough...

Dusty (lol)
by See&E
Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:45 pm
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: assigned seats
Replies: 3
Views: 1778

wow! Remember when it was a student's focus and analogical mind that brought them to the seats closest the stage? It was left to the "random seat generator" I think they once called "Big Bertha" to assign seats. Then there are those on the site that have shared they never paid, or rarely paid for (a...
by See&E
Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:36 pm
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: Blue College February 2008
Replies: 11
Views: 4460

I'd forgotten about that, voidgate! Wasn't that also why the M.O.M (smile) also played the music really loudly and in certain keys? LOL! Yup, when I think back on those early years, I almost always came down with laryngitis and cough/cold. One time developed bronchitis and pneumonia. The dust in the...
by See&E
Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:37 am
Forum: EMF Debate Forums - Rules For Posting, How to post, Registration Agreement Terms and Contact Info
Topic: EMF POSTING GUIDELINES Registration Agreement Terms
Replies: 6
Views: 7500

Cyber Manners & Enforce the EMF Rules

David, Thanks for the post. I believe you and/or the moderators of the board put it very clearly: The intent of this particular board (it's purpose) and for those who may not have read them, PLEASE READ THE ABOVE RULES AND CLEAR EXPECTATION FOR THE ABILITY TO READ, POST, OR USE THIS BOARD on EMF. My...
by See&E
Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:50 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Where has everybody gone?
Replies: 27
Views: 5759

Bon Voyage! G2G!
Happy to hear you're enjoying travelling and doing well!
Take care,
See&E
by See&E
Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:39 am
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: Where has everybody gone?
Replies: 27
Views: 5759

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by See&E
Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:29 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: The Days to Come "TDTC" using fear
Replies: 20
Views: 4842

It was also taught that our calendar years are wrong

we are probably already at the 2012 or very close to it
(according to the teaching given), as it's 'later than you think'

(*music plays, "no time left for you" ))
This reallywas played after that was shared one time

S&E
by See&E
Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:39 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Ramtha on TDTC
Replies: 2
Views: 2040

Ramtha on TDTC

removed
by See&E
Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:37 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Quienes mas macha... EC o... JZ ?
Replies: 1
Views: 712

If you compare this video clip from Elizabeth Clare Prophet (aka Guru "Ma") with the shared clip(s) today of the Merv Griffin show and also the other you tube links with Jz/R many years ago, it is an interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing the link (on other topic) of various videos of JZ, and JZ...
by See&E
Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:16 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: What the Bleep Movie - Is it Real Science?
Replies: 18
Views: 5213

Journey Enjoyed your comments and perspective. a mystery school or ancient school of wisdom, or gnostic school, or enlightenement, would be a place not to be another oprah-esque 'book of the month' club, with music from the movie of the month-club. And a collage and smattering of all manner of reade...
by See&E
Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:12 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: What the Bleep Movie - Is it Real Science?
Replies: 18
Views: 5213

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by See&E
Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:32 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Pot and wine
Replies: 19
Views: 5685

We were also told that a Ram's Horns were worn as a 'crown' of (acknowledged) wisdom And that is also where the notion of beings (demons? satan?) with horns coming out of their heads were symbolic representations of wisdom. Later, some 32,000 years later, the horns were changed into light, halos, au...
by See&E
Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:38 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Leaving friends behind.
Replies: 21
Views: 5900

Friendships & Belief Dear FreeNow, One of the things I miss most from attending events at the ranch, was also the great fun and friendships that were developed from all walks of life, from all over the world. We all had the 'journey' and the school, and our expectations and individual reasons for co...

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