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Indigo

I couldn't resist having a final look to see what all those responses were to my simple, (in my mind, anyway) farewell post. I didn't expect all of this. Let me clarify, once and for all, and this time I won't look again: I know nothing of the "indigo children." The name Indigo came from a...

Indigo

Hi all: This will be a very brief note of clarification that my post regarding thought creating or impacting reality was absolutely, in no way, in support or RSE or JZ. It was, rather, an attempt to offer a gift of a process I, and many of my colleagues and friends have used with much success over t...

Indigo

Hmmmm, clearly not looking for congratulations in my post. The intent was to ask of others who had been there the first day, if any are on EMF, and confirm my memory of the promise given that we would not have to do the tank again. Were "doors" opened for me? I have absolutely no clue, dun...

Indigo

Thank you for the information. Funny how time tends to alter the bouncy and chipper appearance and exuberance, eh? I like how you use sanitized to describe the video. I lost interest ipartway through the video, but enjoyed, sort of, the part I did watch. My memories of the tank and the field are not...

Indigo

I so appreciate you, thank you. It is deeply touching to have other souls who share similar values and paths to exchange experiences with, and recall past experiences on the path to right now. I love your daily intent. I think we are onto something really good, myself. I am leaving town to visit my ...

Indigo

Lost in Space and Just Truth, thank you. I knew this was a topic of great interest for me and I felt compelled to share my life experiences with whatever you wish to call it, meditation, affirmations, mindfully focusing our thoughts, even vision boards, but I did not realize it could create such pas...

Indigo

This is interesting. Thank you for posting the link. I only watched part of it and it all looks so peaceful and calm. My, the tank has grown if it is over an acre now. I was in the very first tank and did make it to the void. I don't know why so I cannot address that, I was not part of the "in&...

Indigo

This is quite an interesting thread to me. If I may, I think the vast majority of those who came to RSE came as serious seekers. I must agree with those speaking of the early days, before there was an RSE, when the teaching was filled with much love and compassion. However, it didn't take long for t...

Indigo

Very interesting. I wonder how JZ explained doing the video vs the no photo rules at that time?

Indigo

Wow, was this video done at the retreat in Estes Park where he named Elohim, the first group? (sp?) I think that's where he named them anyway, I missed that one for some reason and was home in Yelm. I have a fuzzy memory on those details. Way back then I recall absolutely no photos were allowed to b...

Indigo

Yes, Marie, I so agree. Once you are out you can look back and almost see and feel the dark cloud of fear, poverty and hopelessness hanging over Yelm, despite what the students tell themselves about the disciplines. At least when I was there the weekends with Ramtha, and events, were mostly positive...

Indigo

David and Ex: A frightening thought occurred to me as I read both your posts, all JZ has to do is send everyone to their bunkers when she is ready to flee Yelm and start her new life, sans the Ramtha idenity. No one will come out until whatever the "signal" was to be is given, so she is ho...

Indigo

Yes, Kensho, your posts are so insightful, kind and compassionate. I love reading what you write, it is almost a meditation or poetry and speaks directly to my heart. The guidance is invaluable. As for songs coming to mind, today, after I posted on EMF to someone truly heartbroken with the concept t...

Indigo

Good morning: In reading this thread, I wanted to share my experience years after leaving RSE when I took time and trained in Raja yoga, wanting to become a yoga teacher and know more about the traditional path, not the Westernized cookie cutter path. I was quite shocked the first morning we rose at...

Indigo

This is most disturbing. I discussed the situation with a close friend from Washington. He suggests contacting the Sheriff's department. Clearly the local officials and newspaper appear to be bought and paid for by RSE, or, they just aren't doing their jobs. Not being familiar with these type of thi...

Indigo

This was a trip down memory lane for me as well. It had to be 20 years ago. For years, the smell of duct tape always made me think of the tank and the dread of knowing I was going to be blindfolded for 4 hours or so. Uhhh. Funny, that! What I realize I still do is rush ever time I have water runnin...

Indigo

G2G posted this some time ago, which I copied and pasted, below. It is very well said, and it captures the essence of RSE as I knew as it took a turn to the bazaar, but I left before the wine ceremonies so I cannot speak to that. I personally saw people blindfolded fall into the river and hurt thems...

Indigo

What a trip down memory lane this topic was for me. I was at the very first tank, and the first forest walk you all have been discussing. I had forgotten all about these things until I read the posts, which are so accurate and descriptive. As I recall the first tank was sprung on us as a surprise at...

Indigo

Hi All: I have been away from EMF and on vacation. Upon my return, I was curious about what had been going on here at EMF and then checked the RSE website,for fun. With the projected June 15th disaster just around the corner (once again) I noted that RSE is offering bidding for a personal session wi...

Indigo

Well said, everyone. I so agree. Conspiracy no matter which way you turn. This whole imminent disaster number from JZ has been beat to death for financial gain and the small amount of "esteem" she gets from bamboozled students. She must know she is sinking into a hell hole of her own makin...

Indigo

So this new disaster was interesting enough for me to check the NASA webpage, out of curiosity. (Boy, if it isn't one thing with RSE, it's another. You would think people would just burn out after so many years of this kind of fear mongering.) Here is what I found at NASA: Question So what the deal ...

Indigo

Ockham and Ex: Yes, I think we are in agreement. JZ exaggerates the possibilities the scientists are telling us from their research, and uses them as a way to generate income. it is to her financial advantage to create a fearful, dependent and panicked environment for the students of RSE. However, f...

Indigo

Interesting. NASA also has articles on this situation, and, I did a research paper in Universty, many years ago, on sun spots around this time, and their potential effect on the earth, but I am not a scientist.. This NOAA input just caught my attention. I guess we will wait and see what happens. Tha...

Indigo

Interesting. Have any of you seen these recent articles on solar storms from NASA and NOAA? I came across this by accident today. The Huffington Post: Solar Storms Could Have 'Potentially Devastating Effects': NOAA Official http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/solar-storms-noaa-2013_n_862923.html

Indigo

If you Google Abraham Hicks + beginning you will get more on them. Here is a bit of what came up. Nothing at all on Ramtha. The first Abraham book came out around 1985 I believe. Wayne Dyer includes Abraham-Hicks among his esteemed teachers and they have many NY Times Best Sellers to their credit. I...

Indigo

Hmmmmm. Speechless here. No comment. :-) Blessings to those still at RSE on this mad journey they are on. And counting my blessings that I left a long, long time ago. Way before any talk about orbs. We all have our own learnings for this lifetime, so, I am working on being nonjudgmental and just sen...

Indigo

So orbs are supposed to be light beings from another dimension? Sorry, none of this was part of RSE when I attended. When was this introduced? What is the purpose supposed to be?

Indigo

What is this teaching on orbs? What are they supposed to be?

Thanks

Indigo

I was there the day Ram/JZ ,whomever, gave the instructions to set up the Master's Fund. It was to feed people who were hungry, ill, needed housing, care, etc. Wow, that was a long time ago. As I recall we all chipped in a small amount $5.00 to 20.00 or something like that. There must be a ton of mo...

Indigo

There is no comparison between the Ramtha of the early days, as I remember, and what is now being shown on YouTube and quoted here on EMF. I am puzzled why anyone would pay that kind of money, invest the time and effort and be abused. And, mostly video teachings? No.. I also recall that absolutely n...

Indigo

I wasn't going to post again. But, it is quite interesting to me to find myself going back through several of these threads on a quiet, sunny afternoon. I am still stunned by the radical change in what I knew as Ramtha in the 80's and early 90's. I met Ramtha and moved to the Yelm area a few months ...

Indigo

PS to Another Dimension Ahhh, the dance of Ram you mention, I forgot to comment on that. What a day. Were you there the day Ram first did the dance? It was quite an amazing thing for me at the time. As I remember, he just started to dance without warning when we took a brief bathroom break in an eve...

Indigo

Another Dimension: I agree with you. As I remember it, I found RD much different from RSE, when that began. Ramtha Dialogues was kinder, more encouraging. Do you remember the event in Yelm where we all made a huge Father's Day card and signed and gave it to Ram on Father's Day. We perceived him in t...

Indigo

Free My Soul: I loved your post. It is inspiring and wonderful to hear how you have moved on, leaving the RSE experience in the past, to a new productive, happy life full of gratitude and compassion. Now, how could you go wrong with a focus like that? Gratitude is everything. Love it, you inspire me...

Indigo

I am so overwhelmed by the lovely, kind, articulate and thoughtful responses to my posts. It was like waking up to Christmas here today. I have enjoyed your posts immensely and you have touched my heart and made me smile. Perhaps this is why we were all drawn to the RSE experience, to exchange learn...

Indigo

BTW, after I watched that video of JZ today,, I turned off my pc feeling quite sick and shaken. I had a little talk with myself and then took myself to my yuppy Sports Club for a sauna and jacuzzi, to immerse myself in happy vives. My, how life has changed from RSE days and living in the woods with ...

Indigo

Thanks for the kind responses. I guess I had a lot bottled up inside on this topic and once I got started it just kept bubbling up. To answer your question, no I don't practice anything I learned at RSE. Some of the early teachings about creating your own reality are found in many other "religi...

Indigo

If I hadn't seen this with my own eyes I would never have been able to believe it. This sums it up...speechless. I cannot believe JZ let them put this on youtube. Nor can I believe this is supposed to be a school.

http://youtu.be/NbleQv1e0-8

Indigo

One final (I promise) last thought from.Robair's question to me. If Ram was real and then left, (pure speculation here for fun)...the thought occurs to me to ask.... .Did the wine drinking, drugs and smoking, verbal and physical abuse start about 7 years after the original school opened? Just curiou...

Indigo

Ok, so it posted and I am still on my memory lane deal, I will finish. I wanted to talk about the madness of going out into the woods above the tank, blindfolded and spending hours thrashing around in the woods, bumping into trees and rocks and then blackberry brambles, trying to find the tank, then...

Indigo

Boy, this is my third try at posting a response....I hope they don't all show up. If so, please accept my apology. I must be hitting a wrong button here. LOL. So, here's the deal in a nutshell this time. I must have left Yelm around 1991 or 92 because in backing this up, I first saw him in San Diego...

Indigo

I am curious as I left the school shortly after the first few tank and field experiences, and the first "all nighters" sitting in the field, in the rain and snow, and I think 3 Essays. I moved to Yelm before there was a school and stayed for about five years, but while I built a mostly sel...

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