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I don't know why I feel the need to post this, but here goes. I was friendly with Linda Evans while I attended RSE. In my experience she was lovely, soft spoken, generous and kind. Her piercing blue eyes radiated kindness and genuine interest during our conversations. Because of her 30+ years with "...

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Hello Mindstate - Thank you for your participation in this forum. I really welcome and honor your experiences. I've been reading this particular forum for the past 20 minutes and have skipped many of the subsequent postings by yourself and others (which I will read when time permits). I hope I am no...

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Thank you, Ockham.

CD

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Thanks for the kind words, Seriously.

JZ is not worth the price of harboring hatred, but I sure would like to see her go down visibly squirming and taking responsibility for all of the harm she has perpetrated. It's happening, but slowly.

CD

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Although I haven't posted here in ages, I believe it is an indication of my individual progress and that gradually I am being released from the once all-consuming grip of JZ Knight/Ramtha and the negative impact it has placed on my life. I'm definitely not "at peace with" but have reconciled with my...

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I just ordered this book. Looking forward to a good read.

CD

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heyV - While I haven't commented yet on your posts, I have been following you and your situation closely. I too, like most of us, have been badly damaged by my years at RSE. I don't have much to add to what others have posted back to you, but I know you can rise from the despair that you are now exp...

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JZ has given herself permission to lie about any and everything. "Fookie" is probably trademarked now if it wasn't before.

CD

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JZ has given herself permission to lie about any and everything. "Fookie" is probably trademarked now if it wasn't before.

CD

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I recently responded to a post in the "legal issues" section of this board and I now see that that subject is now locked. I wish to amend the reply I posted to the following message: They have a long way to go, and not so sure they have any battles won. Rse in no way even measures to scientology. Rs...

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Hi Vanilla -

For a while there, I kept all my seeds- apple , avocado, orange, grape, apricot, watermelon and the list goes on.

Then, a few years later, Ramtha would spit olive seeds at the audience and people would scramble to retrieve them.

CD

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They have a long way to go, and not so sure they have any battles won. Rse in no way even measures to scientology. Rse is a small town group with few followers compared. Not really that many around the world, JZ/Scamtha is merely a "fookie" in her own game. Most people in the cult world have never ...

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hey V - I'm so glad you're finding this website helpful. How long were you a participant. It sounds like you took the on-line course. Hopefully, you didn't spend too much money before seeing the red flags that woke you up. For me, EMF has become a real support group in the true sense of the word "su...

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I remember Ed and his family very well. I remember their closeness as a family and their devotion to the teachings. Ramtha was apparently grooming their daughter for something, as she was frequently invited to join the in-group on stage. Ramtha named her "Teddy Bear." I remember Ed's declining healt...

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For whatever reason, my browsing today led me to this topic: Vanilla said: JZ told a friend of mine, that she has a machine that can talk to dead people and that Ed Wiltsie had an important message to pass to my friend. The message was three words: Snow December White . ( message from the dead) I'm ...

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Were children present at that event? It was sickening the way the audience laughed in agreement. Don't any of her followers even care or get offended anymore? What has become of their minds? Did they sign away their critical thinking when they signed the participation agreement? How would a ramster ...

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Reality check: the harder RSE works to deny it is a cult, the more sure you can be that RSE is a cult.

Ockham -
I was so brainwashed that I actually believed Ramtha when she/he said we were not in a cult. And I defended RSE to my outside friends using Ramtha's quotes as "proof."

CD

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Sometimes its disconcerting to sometimes view oneself as a "villager". Fortunately, those moments are short-lived, but I never see them coming. I just re-read this message that I posted yesterday and I wish to retract it. There is nothing wrong with being a "villager." I guess at the time of postin...

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Yes, Ex.

Sometimes its disconcerting to sometimes view oneself as a "villager". Fortunately, those moments are short-lived, but I never see them coming.

CD

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yes, there has been some of that now that you mention it, the self-questioning and general feeling of ungrounded weirdness. A history of -shall we say- encounters with the unexpected has taken away fears of death etc but I keep getting this "what do I hang my hat on now?" sort of deal. The sense of...

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No, I don't know who she is but there is something very familiar about her.

CD

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It seems because of the negative, ominous reality of rse, the truly devoted good hearted seekers end up coming out of it with the most arduous road to recovery. Where else in our lives is hard work and devotion penalized?

Jingz-

Your statement is spot on, and its implications are very sad.

CD

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Welcome, Jingz, Thanks for sharing your story. I can relate to much of it, too much of it. I know that each time one shares their story it is like having to relive it again and is many times painful. Yet, it's therapeutic to download the experience. One never knows which part of their story holds a ...

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Hi Awaken, and welcome. I just want to share with you that my personal "awakening" experience took place over several years. I joined this site back in 2008 (I think), and was still on the fence a little because of the impact of the enormity of JZ's fraud was simply too much for me to accept and dig...

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Here is another youtube video link.

http://www.nwdailymarker.com/2012/10/ne ... -mexicans/

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Case in point:

I was at an event when one student miraculously manifested a "master's C&E cape."

Strangely enough, at that same event someone else lost a cape identical to the one that someone else manifested.

CD

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David - Perhaps you can re-post these photos on another thread as well as this one. I just came across them and I can see they've been posted for quite a while now. They re-inforce for me that this place is a potential disaster-in-the-making from a safety standpoint, especially with all of the safet...

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He had one, about having been out in the cold and rain (not sure if this was yelm or Italy), and he was told to focus, but to see what you needed as coming from no place, time etc... He could not find his tent after hours of looking, was cold and tired, so he just laid down and went to sleep under ...

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so now the teaching is changed and his daughter, the RSE Channel, is doing the right thing by constantly having Plastic Surgery, Jaw realigned, Teeth Capped, Nostrils plucked, etc to help her in her life and, but of course, help the marketing of the school to present a wiser and stronger looking Ra...

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At least 21 treated for burns after Robbins event (July 21, 2012) Associated Press – 3 hrs ago Email Print RELATED CONTENT FILE - Tony Robbins poses for a … FILE - Tony Robbins poses for a … SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) — Fire officials in California say at least 21 people were treated for burns after atte...

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Vanilla - Nothing that happens at RSE surprises me anymore. I witnessed many marriage ceremonies, some of which didn't make sense at all since the bride and groom weren't even seemingly attracted to each other. They were, however, flattered and honored by the fact that Ramtha conducted the ceremonie...

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Is it possible/or a good idea to put posters around town announcing this event?

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I agree with Ockham. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

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Hi David - I never understood what the Karma post rating was. Now that I know what it means, I am not in support of it. For those of us still working on obtaining our mental sobriety post-RSE, it feels to me like a report card. I, for one, continue to work on self-esteem, and it is uncomfortable to ...

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Rooster, Marie -

Don't worry. I know where you were coming from.

Good thing I was gone before the twinkie teachings were presented. I only know what I've heard on this board about the twinkies "discipline

-- How absurd!

CD

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Hi Kelku - Welcome to EMF. Thank you for your willingness to share your experiences as a staffer; they are hugely important in spreading the message that JZ Knight is a total scamming fraud. I'm certain your posts will open many eyes. Most of us "regular" students were always interested in learning ...

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Thanks everyone for your comments on my post. Upon re-reading my post with fresh eyes, I am slightly embarrassed that I may have come across as a narcissistic victim/spoiled brat. :oops: I'm really not a sniveling miserable person but I do have some big insecurities that I never had before attending...

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Some of the affirmations on our "list" still have me messed up to this day. - I am 30 years young - I am fabulously wealthy -I am unlimited potential and master of all - I am a healer of all things - I am my genius mind Everytime my body shows a sign of natural aging I freak out, because I actually ...

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We really need an international contest

Or, a collection of more of these shorts could be combined into a short film and be entered into the Oscars for Best Animated Feature.

That would certainly get exposure.

CD

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I love the hand gestures appearing on the right side of the screen in Part 2 -- no visible body, only the occasional pointed finger, the so-be-its, and the suggested NLP gestures.

I noticed these gestures only on Part 2, but they may have also been in Part 1.

CD

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Thanks for posting this, Virginia. This is absolutely hysterical.

Perhaps a "series" can be developed.

C.D.

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SG -

Great photo. Powerful enough for Times Square

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Since the term "ramster" has not yet been trademarked, perhaps it's time to trademark the term ourselves and link the term directly to EMF so that when it's googled the reader gets the full picture.

CD

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A beautiful piece of music took me to the "void

" every time it played: Chariots of Fire, by Vangeles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEF4zH6XHCk

Judy, how dare Judy taint these masterpieces.

CD

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When you are in a cult you think it is very unique to this planet..the only project..one of a kind, special..you become very unique, part of a mission. "I have never seen this anywhere else in the world. No other experience". Very special. I remember feeling so special in life because I was in the ...

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Hi David and Robair -

Can you tell me how to locate threads that I have bookmarked?

Thanks so much.

CD

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I can't believe that I ever took this gibberish seriously.

And those poor people who go home and study it until they "get it." If they don't get it, they feel they are inadequate.

CD

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David - Thanks for posting these interview tapes. I had never seen them before. It's so disturbing to me that JZKnight still continues to ensnare her existing and new followers. In these tapes she smirks about the fraudulent scam(s) that her followers partake in. She says it's their fault for what t...

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outonalimb - You mentioned that you're currently without close friends. I met a group of new close friends when I began attending AA meetings after leaving RSE. It took me about 8 months, but after attending many meetings and listening to stories from ashamed, angry and demoralized members of the AA...

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Hang in there, outonalimb. You're now on the right track. This website is a valuable, supportive, resource. In addition to devouring the EMF website, one of the things that I have found extremely healing is to openly discuss what I have been through with close friends who do not judge me. I've found...

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Now, as Rooster points out, the NESARA crap and the Omega Ponzi scheme are back, like an evil hydra that is reassembling itself after being chopped up. Now we've got Sheldan Nidle and, 'Suzy Star,' performing CPR and patching up the old Omega swindle. I hope nobody in RSE or anywhere else is naive ...

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I believe I read on this board somewhere that JZ Knight entertained Clyde Hood in her home during the Omega frenzy.

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I found this write-up on Clyde Hood on Wikipedia today. I think some mention of JZ Knight's involvement should me included if anyone out there knows how to add input on Wiki. This page was last modified on 14 February 2012 at 07:45. Omega Trust From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article does...

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What a fascinating post. I wish I had been a fly on the wall for this hearing, or that Court TV covered the trial. This is huge. The ramifications could be explosive as ex-members now have a precedent-setting trial to support them if they chose to talk. JZ and her posse are most likely closely follo...

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I've noticed that Scientology is running recruitment ads on television these days.

I can't hope but wonder if RSE will follow in Scientology's footsteps.

CD

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In an emergency would JZ use her arena to house and help her students if they are left homeless in Yelm or hungry?

Me thinketh NOT!

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I just spoke with my friend. She watched the most recent two-day (or two-night?) event on tv, and said the teachings were that one needs adversity in order to gain knowledge. She proceeded to rave that she is finally "getting it" after 23 years. :roll: She also mentioned they had a guest author who ...

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Hi David - In the "rockumentary"I gave you a couple of years ago JZ as Ramtha was disgustingly drunk. I think snippets of copyrighted material can be legally posted as long as they don't exceed a certain amount of minutes or seconds. I'm glad I sent you all of the CDs and videos I owned. It would be...

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"Most users ever online was 70 on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:22 pm"

Wow. This was just yesterday. Think I'll call my friend and get the buzz.

CD

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Tree, Thanks for your thought-full reply. I will apply whichever of these techniques come to mind next time. A couple of days ago I was in an uncomfortable situation with someone and later, when I was alone and began thinking about the it, I said to myself "blow it out." Yikes! :shock: This would ha...

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Tree said: But I used some techniques that were given to me. I have to be willing to work at them to keep getting better and building the old roads in my brain that were more dominant before RSE. Hi Tree. What kind of techniques are you using. I still find a lot of the world's natural beauty tainted...

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It's wonderful to hear from you, Tree.

I missed reading your posts. I still see myself in much of what you write.

Welcome back.

CD

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I wouldn't be surprised if RSE turn this into one of their stories about RSE/Ramtha's "miracles." Published Thursday, Dec. 15, 2011 0 Comments Wash. family about to bury dog finds surprise The Associated Press https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/wash-family-about-to-bury-dog-finds-surprise/509-c0e49cb...

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Please take me to court and this time it will not be about infrienging you trademarks, you will have to bring your 8 Foot buffoon. Come on you fake faces let do it. Robair, If JZ takes you to court, I'll travel to Washington and sit on your side of the courtroom and testify as a witness if need be....

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My good friend who remains in the school after more than 20 years has changed dramatically over just the past year. Each time I talk with her she has sunken deeper into delusion. At one time she was a sensible person who was willing to consider the pros and cons of remaining with RSE even after I sh...

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Quote: In a sense, cults create a transcendent experience that “stops time” for the follower who feels the aura of a final answer to life’s questions. Thereby, “the original exploratory impulse” that got them there freezes. All that remains is to deflect criticism and doubt and to stay in orbit aro...

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Perhaps Jz/Ramtha's explantion about Lars will have something to do with the tale she spun about how "Roses" (aka Lars) courted Ramtha's beautiful daughter and how they were never able (for some forgotten reason) to consummate their torrid l love affair. Perhaps JZ will say she is now merely only fi...

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My recall of the "RockWork" was during blue college we would wake up each morning (still blindfolded) and prior to going to the field with our pet rock we dutifully prepared and drank a daily Sea-11 water potion, mixing a white powder into dead sea water hoping to get the measurement correct all the...

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Looking at these diagrams again, I find myself feeling sad and naive. They recall a time in my life when I thought I was experiencing true joy at the most meaningful level a human could experience. The deception I lived through all of those years still burns deeply -- some days more, some days less....

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Sunday August 14, 2011 Hosted by Rob Simone Guest(s): JZ Knight, Dean Haglund Founder and President of Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment, JZ Knight, joins guest host Rob Simone (email) for a discussion about her experiences connected with the channeling of a 35,000 year old warrior from the lost cont...

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Actually, I don't doubt that the quotes are accurate. Some of them might be taken out of context, but I have personally experienced hearing many surprising and horrible words flow out of that mouth.

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Hello Moderators:

Can you please adjust my account so that I can send and receive private messages. I have a new email address, and ever since I changed it my account preferences are not as I wish them to be. I'd like my email address to show on the memberlist.

Thanks.

CD

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I just looked up Robbins' biographical info, and wow, a some of his theories have more than a little similarity to the disciplines taught at RSE. From the description of his book, "Unlimited Power," from 1987 it sounds like Robbins describes breathing exercises that are C&E-like. Hmm, sounds like a...

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In 1996 I worked with someone who said he is a long-time friend of Greg Simmons. He told me of some of their childhood pranks. Anyway, something that I find of interest is that the name of Tony Robbins came up. Anyway, this person that I worked with had been involved on some level with Tony Robbins....

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Hi Vanilla- I think the name of the guy is CIA Ron. (not bob or rob). Anyway, do you know if he is still at the school? And do you know for certain who I am talking about? I will tell you of my several encounters with him, but I prefer that it be via an email. I really want to give you a thoughtful ...

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Vanilla - No, I didn't think that I was a prostitute in my past life with Scamtha. I believed that I was a dancing temptress. Or maybe there other whores and dancers for his army here in the school now. Probably many students fantasized about being glamorous and sexy in his army. To this day, I stil...

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Sometimes I wonder about those who have been there from the start, believing and doing everything and anything JZ as ramtha tells them to do. Would they believe it if JZ herself told them it was all her "vision?" Or would they be in denial? "Oh, it's just a test." Reminds me of the movie, in a way,...

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I think my contact info shows up online, but if not I'll p.m. you.

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I wonder if CIA Rob/Bob?? is still in the school. He was a trip.

CD

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Thanks for the clarification, Vanilla.

Unfortunately, now I have a vision of JZ in a bikini on the Mediterranean. The only vision that could be worse is if she followed local tradition and went topless on the beach.

CD

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My friend was blindfolded and said he saw in infrared -a black guy with long dreadlocks, real ugly looking giant dude come bend over and look at him.

Sounds like your friend might have encountered SR.

CD

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As for me, and I was not on staff, in my past life I believed I was a dancing girl/enchantress dressed in bells and finery, accompanying the great march.

Yes, I was absolutely certain and felt quite privileged to have participated as such in the great march.

CD

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Maybe the smartest ones were the folks who dared to put the pinholes in their blinders so they could see !!! In a strange way, one can see what courage it took to do that; they had to over ride the fear/guilt factor. Question: Did people really poke pinholes in their blinders??? I could never belie...

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I saw the whole thing. I couldn't believe it, one hour of twinkie talk, another hour or two on when Jz got confused by Penny Marshall by Oprah who Ram called "Black Bitch"

Vanilla, please elaborate.

CD

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Vanilla said:

What do I reach for next, the opposite? No, I don't want to.
I think I will just spend my days and energy reading classic lit. now.

Vanilla, enjoy being a new mom and love that little baby of yours. Be glad that your baby doesn't have both parents in a cult.

CD

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"Let it Snow" was one of the many themes of the Assay+Boktau I attended in October 98-99. Scamtha led us all, many times throughout the event, in the cheer "let it snow" (we were having an early Christmas) and it never did snow. I just KNEW it would start snowing any day. Since we were all experts b...

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Hi Vanilla - Welcome! Your energy is so refreshing and it causes me to reflect on my own state of mind when I finally made the break from Ramtha/JZ. I really encourage you to continue reading this website. This Message Board turned out to be the springboard I needed to ultimately propel me out of th...

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Here is a thought about Ramtha being there and gone. Can someone explain to me why a so call powerful God would leave and let someone use and trashed his Good Name. Do they also have Trademark laws in his dimension that would bind him to do so, I guess JZ was Smarter then he, and Trademarked the na...

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Hi All - I watched the video this morning for the first time. The music that was played in the YouTube video is the exact same music that was played at an October 1998 or '99 one-month Boktau. The YouTube video was trippy to watch because the music automatically took me back immediately to that even...

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I gave my copy of the "Rockumentary" to David, but not before I watched it one last time. I recall a drunken and sloppy foul-mouthed Ramtha kissing someone's baby on stage. It was a raucous free-for-all. The couples dancing on stage appeared to be in a drunken trance, and of course they were. Ramtha...

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I just learned that Louie Enos and Michelle Enos have quit their teacher jobs at RSE. They have both been with RSE since the 1980's. The RSE structure continues to fold.

Also, I understand that all teachers at RSE are now required to master reading the deck of cards.

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I think the ongoing death talk is a desperate attempt to maximize attention getting JZ Knight will be 74 years old in March. I imagine on some level she must be getting very weary of this charade she has created. She has created her very own Hell on Earth, and now she must dwell in that hell as lon...

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My friend who told me about JZ supposedly dying" in Spring of 2011 has since informed me the Ramtha has announced that JZ will die peacefully in her sleep in March 2011. I'm thinking this will end up being yet another unfulfilled prophecy because of a changed timeline. In the event JZ actually does ...

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A couple of days ago a friend of mine who is a long-student told me that at a recent event "Ramtha" told the group that "JZ" will die in the Spring of 2011.

Has anyone else heard about this?

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Enlightenment said:

can someone give an example of ramthas brainwashing teachings? what exactly does she say?

JZRamtha directly told our group back in 1996 or 97: "I am going to wash your brains." and, unbelievably, a cheer erupted from the audience (myself included).

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At the time of our new 4:00 a.m. ritual, conveniently for the first time there were 8x10" color glossy photos of JZR available at the "bull pen" (on-site bookstore) that we could purchase to use in our 4 a.m. ritual. While toasting with the wine and bread, we were instructed to focus on the eyes in ...

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is the population of RSE dwindling More so than ever since Judith just fired a whole bunch of RSE staff members! Hopefully they will soon discover how wonderful it is to be free of the RSE madness and Judiths hornets nest. David (Glad to have finally found this revised website.) Who got fired and w...

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Thanks WebMasters for writing this thorough letter/document.

It will certainly catch someone's attention, as it is a truthful, well-researched and fascinating read.

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Illusionist said: I wrote a piece against RSE and I get abused by David who behaves like the Spanish inquisition. This to me sounds like a puppet from the not-too-distant past that EMF is familiar with, whose purpose on this board (and maybe in life) is to recycle ignora nce . Most likely a ramster ...

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School spokesman Greg Simmons said the school's teachings included no reference to "lizard people." "I don't recall that ever coming up," Simmons said. To the best of my recollection, Ramtha never actually used the phrase "lizard people," it was the RSE students who gave them that label. Ramtha alw...

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As I Recall It - Welcome to EMF, and please keep sharing your experiences of RSE. I joined in 1988, and your postings take me on a trip through memory lane, or shall I call it Hell's Gate? :twisted:. My recall of the "Light Teachings" being told that upon our transition we should focus on the void a...

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But for the grace of God in showing me the way out of RSE, I was becoming someone who would do whatever test JZRK put me up to. Therefore, if a sweat lodge was to be the next "great teaching," I would have complied because of my misguided faith and brainwashing. I was in the worms in the tank with a...

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Based on what was posted, this Richard guy really does sound like a ramster.

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I continue to be amazed that students of RSE are able to rationalize that they will live to 200 years when more and more continue to die and so many more are in need of "blue healings?" Sure, JZRK explains away the deaths by saying that the deceased are now dancing with him/her/it in the 23rd Univer...

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littlewiseone said: Now I think it's more likely we couldn't remember because we were in a hypnotic state and once removed from that state it's hard to remember what happened while you were in it... certainly a different explanation, but similar idea. And most ramsters wouldn't bat an eye at that ex...

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Two quotes were made to me couple of days ago by a student of 20+ years who had just attended a September event: 1) "Oh my God, toward the end of the event Ramtha gave us some vital information that he's been holding onto all this time . It's now all beginning to come together." 2) One other thing t...

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I physically left the school in 2000, and Greg had already levitated by then and Ramtha shared Greg's "story" with the audience. I believe it was in 1998. Supposedly it happened during fieldwork. However, his rental car incident didn't come to my attention until I read it in his book a few years aft...

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JZ is auctioning her collection in September, 2009 [/b] What would satisfy me in terms of "getting even" with JZ would be to have her exposed big time for who she really is and the scam she is perpetrating on so many trusting souls and their families. Her "collection" at Bonham's is most likely pai...

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Does anyone know what Judith wears to disguise herself in public? The reason I ask is because I was in Las Vegas last weekend and believe I saw her at a show . My heart jumped and I couldn't take my eyes off of her. There was something very familiar about the eyes and face. She was standing and dres...

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I'm going to bed! I get a headache just thinking of people believing this crap!

I am so nauseated by all of JZerox's b.s. predictions, self-promotion and deceptions that I haven't even had the motivation to comment on this board lately.

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Dove, Welcome!! Correct me if I'm mistaken, but it seems like you are a current student. By my reading these threads, I got so many answers to unresolved questions I had about RSE. It was a process, but after a year of reading and participating online, I learned so much -- not only about RSE -- abou...

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The whole Ramtha story sounds so ridiculous now. The only way I've coped is to put Ramtha in with Borat and Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen's fictional characters). Just imagine Borat or Bruno at the wine ceremonies ... quite similar to some students' behavior. OMG, Cat, that is just too, too funny. That ...

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I lost everything by believing that ...moderator edit in the arena and my mother is now a prisoner of Knight's school. Voidgate- My sympathies exactly. I spent some time with a friend last week who has been in the school for decades. She was telling me that the majority of students in RSE are now p...

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Is this increase in pregnancies the result of Prozac use? Is it the result of the drunken binge sessions at the School? No one knows for sure. But it certainly is worth mentioning because many lives are affected. I remember the early wine drinking ceremonies. People were deliriously drunk and all s...

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I previously said: The twinkie theory was borne and was attributed to Dan White's "snapping" and going on his murder rampage. What I neglected to mention was that Dan White's defense team pleaded a twinkie theory defense because of his regular consumption of numerous twinkies. http://peacesecurity.s...

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The first time I heard of the "Snapping" theory was very shortly after Dan White murdered San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and fellow supervisor Harvey Milk back in 1978. (Dan White eventually committed suicide.) The twinkie theory was borne and was attributed to Dan White's "snapping" and going o...

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Caterpillar said:

She also managed to sell off the AstroTurf that was full of wine, vomit and spit ...

Are you KIDDING?

I'm serious, Cat. Is this for real?

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[quote]Oldone said: I only watched half of the show, but just had to comment on the rather large lump on the left side of her face. Probably the spot where the Botox was injected. And she was the only guest rearranging her hair and wiping the lipstick at the side of her mouth. True, I watched the sh...

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Ordinary Mind said: I wonder how the RSE "community" is going to be able to rationalize the more and more deaths that will naturally occur as students age. Surely, you would think it would cause more red flags. Anne was just a mere 61 years young. I think students deal with the deaths of fellow stu...

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Wake-up said (in a different thread): How many times did we hear "death is the failure of living." So even though the teachings include reincarnation in their foundation, it's such a failure in the community mindset to be seriously ill or die. I know had that judgement. I just learned that Anne Cas...

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In an early C&E teaching we were told to focus on what we wanted to create and then blow out the letters of our desired manifestation in reverse , i.e., to breathe out in one C&E breath and see the letters floating out of us. "Fabulous wealth" would be blown out as: THAEW SOULUBAF Needless to say, t...

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Catepillar said: P.S. JZ will exit RSE in 2012 before the 12,000 foot wave but the investors/inner circle will try to manage the school with the Wind if it's still standing. This is channelled information from Mickey Mouse. Hi Catepillar - I have a question for you. I physically left RSE in 2000, a...

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Oh NO!!! My question is: Was anyone in the audience when R said he would do anything to evolve us ie lie, deceive? That's why we have the failed investments? We haven't heard that one although I do remember him saying said that masters often push people off the cliff if they are 'stuck' in that inc...

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Yep, that's the happyhoneys! Check this out. Mitja K. confirms it. Are the downline all RSE students? and http://www.vimeo.com/2225574 Watch the video, WHERE DO I SIGN UP??? A community in Yelm ... Hey, is that manifestation of fabulous wealth? I heard that those proteins shakes come in handy at Bl...

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For me the dangerous part is when the parroting of ?mirroring? of speech of the leader/s creates a viral effect that has the ability to infect others and the person/s doing it are unaware of that taking place. It's difficult for me to break the habit of saying "so be it." I've been programmed on su...

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a trivial sidenote re "Students sit in stinky sweats" and plastic surgery -- sweatpants, rolling in the mud, puffed lips at least and probably the other plastic surgeries are simply explained: Linda Evans. Linda couldn't be prettier than JZ if she was wearing sweatpants; humiliating famous Linda wa...

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Cat said: I think I'm in between the two types. Must be a third type? I feel the need to clarify my position since I had previously stated that I can identify with you. I am definitely not the "third type." Count me amongst the first type you mentioned: I note there are two types of ex-Ramsters. One...

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Cat - I'm intrigued by all of your posts, and I'm blown away by how much I identify with you. Somewhere on this forum I've read more than once that people who are current with RSE or have left still love the teachings, saying they are beautiful. What bugs me about that is that Ramtha/JZR claims to b...

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EMO said: Could it be that your 'higher self' made you aware of the importance of 'CT' in RSE, or was it maybe that 'CT' was the spring-board that develloped you to act out of that 'CT'-foundation of intuition? Was it a chicken that you ate, or did you had an egg? I mean: apparently you kind of comb...

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and Pete, Not to stop you from making your own decision about returning to an event -- that is purely your own decision -- but it appears to me that because you are willing to attend a second event it is an indication that JZ has you where she wants you -- tempted by the carrot being dangled just ou...

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Pete - you said: "Critical thinking didnt get me very far, it is not 'seeing things as they are', it doesnt help you to be without judgement, nor does it help you to leave certain things unanswered... Instead it keeps you separate from your own intuition, and makes you believe that the mind has all ...

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Pete - "I'm for 90% sure that it actually is Ramtha inside JZ Knight. Or at least that it is an other entity inside her." Thanks for sharing your experiences at RSE. I need to re-read your post before making further comments, but I feel compelled to comment on the above: If in fact Ramtha were real,...

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Unbound - Welcome. What great way you phrased your processing of the red flags: "When I was a new student I chose to navigate around them through a warped justification; but within the first year I was simply able to ignore them through "what is termed" (LOL) delusion." Now, I look forward to readin...

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"Blue College Retreat 2009 -- wait, did I see the dates right? JZ does not have love interests on the 14th?? What an awesome sacrifice JZ." So, what's the word? Did JZ introduce a new boy-toy at Blue College? Or is she trying on different boy-toys for size? :lol: . . . enquiring minds want to know. :P

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"it?s ironic in my life, my greatest joy was creating the White Book and my greatest mission now is to destroy the White Book" David - WOW. The implications of your conversation with Steven Weinberg have the potential for HUGE ramifications. Thank you for posting it. And thanks to Steven for the wi...

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"3. Im well prepared by EMF, dont worry..." Pete - Although you're "well prepared," I have an additional caution for you: Before your event concludes, you will be ENTICED/LURED to either stay for the next event, or commit to a future event where the great secret (or something along that line) will b...

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Welcome, EnlightenMeObjectively - I've been thinking about how to share with you my experiences in RSE, but one of the best ways to understand the progression of my Life After RSE experience would be to read my thread of posts on this forum. (You can do this if you go to Memberlist and click on a me...

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Wakeup -

"I am everything Ramtha is" was on the original list - i.e., what's on the recorded CDs"

Back when we did the original list, it was "I am everything a Master is, " and I find that affirmation preferable to the newer version on the CD.

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?IS HE THE LAST FIGMENT OF HOPE? HE ABSOLUTELY IS. But if he prays to a Christian God, he will lose. If he follows his intuitiveness, he just might win.? This statement goes totally against Ramtha's teachings. What the heck is he teaching saying that Obama (or anyone other than ourself) is OUR last ...

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RSE students revere the White Book in the same way the Holy Bible is revered. Now that my critical thinking has returned (for the most part), I believe that both the White Book and A State of Mind are both mostly fiction and the mere fantasies of JZRambles. The deception dished out to the earnest st...

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US NAVY, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY By Rosalind Peterson February 21, 2009 NewsWithViews.com The United States Navy and the U.S. Department of Defense have decided that their Northwest Training Range Complex, in the State of Washington, should be expanded, and have devised ...

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"A -Moderator edit- would be great fun as well."

I read this comment prior to the moderator's edit. What a delightful idea, if only one could be assured of not getting caught.

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"Accurate records on paper are essential for legal proceedings." I have no receipts from RSE left after all of these years, but I have volumes of notes. The plagiarized teachings are rampant in my notes. I also have, as I have said many times before, voluminous audio tapes and the "recalled" videos....

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If you are ?genuine?....! and are seriously considering taking legal action against JZ Knight/RSE, I recommend you contact Whatchamacallit. Your confidentiality will be respected. Hey everyone, FYI I've contacted Whatcha regarding an Attorney General letter. I'm definitely on-board. I don't want to...

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DAVID SAID: "For entrenched RSE members to consider that JZ Knight and Ramtha may be "one and the same", is near impossible.. Even to the point that if JZ Knight confessed she was a total fraud, and then apologized for her deceptions?. many RSE members will brush off her statement as a test of their...

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"At this point, I am very skeptical of anyone who claims they can do para normal things. David Blaine does a great job of performing such feats under the guise of the title: Illusionist. I am not going to take anyone at face value anymore." Para normal - those were the words I was looking for when I...

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CALIFORNIA DREAMIN' SAID: "my experience is that at this stage of my recovery from RSE I am reluctant to believe ANYTHING that smacks of the supernatural." I feel the need to clarify this statement that I made -- I have personally experienced supernatural experiences, and those I accept. However, I ...

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JOE SAID: "but, yes, real blood can, in rare instances, seep out of the palms or some skin surface of a believer and quite profusely. The evidence of modern stigmata gives credence, for example, that Jesus could have "sweat blood" in Gethsemene during his "agony in the garden." Joe, my experience is...

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David - That is so sad that not even one RSE "master" was available to assist Alana. How tragic. This moving account of her last Christmas should be posted throughout Yelm, or at least mailed to Nisqually Valley News as a human interest story. (I wonder how long it would be before the postings would...

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She forgot to mention there are no discounts for Blue College attendees. The tone of that letters rings of desperation of JZ Knight and RSE. Also, the release date of the enlightenment-by-mail course has been delayed from it's original January release date. Some new angle is probably being incorpora...

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I just rented Marjoe the movie. Fascinating. The people in his audience reminded me somewhat of the zealous ramsters attending RSE events. They were screaming, dancing, shaking and totally caught up in the moment. No critical thinking going on in those audiences. The folks were lining up to give Mar...

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TREE SAID: "she made a HUGE statement building the wall in the first place. secondly, this is NOT the first time someone has hit that wall in that exact place. several other times in the past, this wall has been reported as being hit." I was just thinking about the fact this wall has been hit in the...

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How about the "witch doctor" pagan dances? The outrageous masks we made and the crazy dancing and primal screaming we did to be come analogical with our desired reality, just like the witch doctors did. We must have put on quite a show for the red guards to watch. They were probably ready to explode...

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I copied the following text from the thread re Attorney General Complaint Letter. My thinking is that anyone new to this forum might gloss over the AG Complaint Letter thread and miss this crucial input concerning Wine Ceremonies. QUOTE: Wine Ceremonies ‘ ‘Education’ For quite a few years Ramtha gav...

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Did anyone on this forum (other than myself) take the "est" training? Here is an article I found which aptly describes the training and brings back many memories. It would appear that JZR may have also taken this training, as her teachings have similar themes, and the fact that these seminars were i...

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TREE said: "I never once thought that I would never NOT go back. I thought I was just taking a breather
....until I stumbled upon this site."

My thoughts exactly. Prior to stumbling upon this website, I always entertained the idea of returning some day, even if just one event per year.

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" P.S. I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed." " At the first wine ceremony, we were told that everyone must drink wine or they had to leave the event. This applied equally to recovering alcoholics. We were told that if we had "promised" anyone that we wouldn't drink, to disregard that...

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WHATCHA said: "It's interesting, the comment about how (tree) started to detach from the dedicated ritual of doing less and less daily disciplines when the end was in sight. i did the same thing. i suspect that is a fairly common reaction to the internal decision making process going on, as well as ...

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As I think about JZ and the facets of her life, I can honestly say there is nothing about her or her life that I would ever aspire to be or have. She has no characteristics that I covet. She most certainly is not a role model. She's intelligent, but just look how she has chosen to abuse that gift.

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WHATCHA said (in another thread) "wow, how in the world did i miss that one ? blue body was "selected for ascension" ??? i just remember jz talking to the audience (you know what i mean.......as herself). she was blubbering about how she goes out of her body so that the ram can come in and take over...

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Thanks, Sara. The function that I just can't get cooperation from is the quote box. I'll test it now on you last message and see what happens. [quote]"left click" on a mac California, the equivalent of "left click" (or is it right click - not the usual one but the other one) on a mac is to hold down...

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Whatcha- Perhaps my interpretation was incorrect about Blue Body being selected for ascension, maybe he was just being selectively "groomed" for the big ride. However, I discussed this with several others who also understood as I did that BB was going to ascend. Perhaps that was intended as a "hook"...

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Hi Sara - Welcome. It's great to have you here. You bring new life to topics which have been dormant for a while. Now that I've been out for a while, I realize that the biggest red flag for me and the main reason for my leaving the school was the in-bred fear surrounding the days to come. I just cou...

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Whatcha said:

"30 years and not one ascended student!"

I guess Blue Body who was the only student (to my knowledge) who was "selected for ascension" chose his own path of ascension.

As someone once posted on this forum, "RUN, JAMES, RUN!!"

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I'm truly thankful for having made this EMF connection.

Wishing all of you loving and health-filled Holidays.

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I stumbled across this unfortunate posting on Rick Ross' website: December 24, 2008 02:17PM speakable truth Date Added: 10/13/2008 Posts: 5 Re: Ramtha anyone?? Rabbi Baruch Ha-Levi... (aka. Jason Perelman) a new age rabbi of Congregation Shirat Hayam of Swampscott, Massachussetts is urging his "cons...

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Definitely Oscar Wilde was quoted and discussed throughout a couple (at least) of wine ceremonies. And the rhyming, while funny at first, got to be unbearable. For the longest time after those rhyming sessions, I would find myself constantly rhyming everything in my head. Talk about brain washing. A...

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Remember the Chaos Teachings? Well, it now seems as if ol' Rambles is experiencing her very own experience with chaos. Now that her beloved Blue Body has evolved and abruptly departed, there have been at least two teachings that have been cancelled due to ?? (probably lack of signups) and she is tak...

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Ordinary Mind -

I'm having the same problem as you appear to be having on my computer which is a Mac.

C.D.

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P.S. I was living a full and joyous life when I stumbled upon RSE. The month before I joined RSE I had a tarot reading in which the reader told me that in a month's time a male energy would enter my life that would be extremely influential in my life. Of course, the reader did not say whether the ma...

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Absolutely NO

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Whatcha - I love it. This video headline appears on the Wide Eye Cinema page just beneath a link to Masters Connection and Secret Behind the Secret. Great placement. I only hope that Glen's interviews will enlighten people who are on the fence about joining or leaving RSE. I hope they have the ears ...

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P.S. I should add that it was my Amway sponsor that deceived me and others for some pretty big bucks.

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Leave it to me to be the victim of a Ponzi scheme whilst I was an Amway distributor (in addition to Omega and Destiny). Do I have "sucker" stamped on my foreheard?

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I posted this a couple of months ago, but it seems to fit better in this thread: "I recall that the name Ramayana is the name that Ramtha said was JZR's name when she was his "daughtern" back in the Lemurian days. Supposedly JZR as Ramayana was a spirited girl who desperately wanted to be a warrior ...

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Thank you so much David and Glen. Looking forward to Part 2.

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WOLFMAN SAID: "Flea Bay-Lee........Is Judie's secret head lawyer.......aka......F Lee Baily........ Ever hear of him?" But of course. :oops: F. Lee Baily. Yes, I know who Melvin Belli is. Wolfman - I get the impression you are being antagonistic with us. Why? I for one would like to know what you ar...

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G2G - No apologies needed for typos. I've been known to make (more than) a few myself in my rush to communicate. :oops: WOLFMAN said: "the rumor for a long while was that Judi did not receive her big money via penny stock trade. She received it through Omega paid with and by our money and by turning...

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From the one-on-one sessions: "the currency of love is truth" and "truth, the currency of love" I suppose these are the new "buzz-words" Don't you think that for $10,000 (and up to $30,000) the big guy could at least have materialized as the cinnamon colored, seven+ foot tall wonderman that first ap...

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I gave incorrect info. Michael Kodosky is dead, not Clyde Hood.

Here is an interesting link to the scams Omega/Alpha/Destiny. At least I was only suckered into Omega and Destiny. Lucky me.

http://www.quatloos.com/cm-omega/cm-omega.htm

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We used to create our year at the New Years event.

But of course -- CYY is another money-making opportunity. Wonder if they'll have any nifty new products for sale? I believe the new Enlightenment By Mail kit will be available around that time.

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In another thread this question was addressed, but the answers became a discussion. I just want Concerned Friends and Family Members reading this forum to have my humble opinion on this question.

"Would RSE Members Drink the Kool Aid???"

YES:!:

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In a different thread, Tree said: "Yes, Preston Nichols DID come to speak at the Ranch. As well as CLyde Hood (Omega) personally visiting jz" Clyde Hood and JZ Knight acquaintances?????? I have been wondering if anyone else out there has entertained the possibility that JZ was in cahoots with Clyde ...

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What the heck is a CYY Progressive Discipline Workshop? What is CYY

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Truster said: [quote]hey i just post. if you have ever noticed i never jumped on anyones post until they jumped on mine hows that for tact kind of shifty of you claim that, for cd to jump on my post when diareah is mentioned cali dreaming i'd appreciate it for tree and cd not so judge me so negative...

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Truster - are you really Mike Wright, or Steve Klein? Certainly not Dr. Greg or Sir Robert . . . .

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Tree said:

"truster-
I was wondering why you are actually here.
Curious your constant attacks.
Interesting tack and tact in your posts."

Yeah, Truster, what exactly is your point?

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"The message I am telling you is this: that if you be God ? and indeed you are, philosophically speaking, that is ? that should be an enticement to experience that nearer to that principle." My interpretation is: the teachings of Ramtha are the same principle from which the foundation of earth/cosmo...

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[quote]"P.S. I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed." what a surprise. She has been dumped and the best way she knows how to deal is drink. What a great time to be an old timer, reading EMF, and waiting for huge contradicting blunder."[/quote] I couldn't agree more. Alcoholics (and most...

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It appears as though Mayor Harding is reading EMF message board. Either that, or he's really got JZ Knight pegged. Mayor calls Knight ad misleading Yelm officials this week called a full-page ad placed in the Nisqually Valley News by channeler JZ Knight ?standard propaganda.? Posted Nov 28, 2008. E-...

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P.S. I understand that the Wine Ceremonies have "resumed."

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Sad Grandfather - As I reflected on your post, I believe that one of the first indications for me that I had begun my journey out of RSE was during a wine ceremony at which "Ramtha" drunkenly rambled on until at least 5 a.m. and I could no longer keep my eyes open. For the first time ever, I left th...

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I clearly remember manyl times when "Ramtha" would arrive on the stage and open a monologue with the word "INDEED," to which (most) everyone would yell and shout back in reply "INDEED" as if that was a meaningful statement. Then the arena would explode in a huge applause. I've often wondered at myse...

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I just want to take this opportunity to acknowledge and thank all of you EMF members. I feel very fortunate to have you to share with me this amazing journey called "Life After RSE."

Happy Thanksgiving.

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I remember filling out those forms and having it "suggested" that when in doubt about the amount of $ spent, embellish. Pavel used to hand out those questionnaires. Whatever became of Pavel?

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I forget. Were children encouraged to ingest the Sea-11 Water concoction? I remember being told to drink it each morning on an empty stomach before going to the field. Everyone (to my limited knowledge) drank it. Since we all drank that horrible stuff, we certainly were impressionable enough to will...

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I really enjoyed reading this book. JZR uses many of the same tactics as ECP.

Bet you won't find this book on RSE's recommended reading list.

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Is there any update on this?

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Thank you David and Glen, for making this a Happy Thanksgiving.

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Does anyone know if JZR was trained in NLP??????? Why are her eyes so freaky even when she is not portraying Ramtha? Man, her eyes look freaky in some of the videos when she is simply trying to be herself. I think we are all watching the beginning of the end for her. She's spreading her energies rea...

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