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HumblePied Piper

Humans are emotional. Whether you judge or observe, you do so with feelings. That is our nature, is it not? To conform to a teaching that we should not listen to our emotions tells me that my emotions are invalid. What societal value does leaving our emotions out play? If not for our emotions (guilt...

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Wake-up - I certainly do recognize the benefits of "having a good/positive attitude". Having direction, purpose, and motivation is an important aspect of accomplishing my goals. If that is what is being taught by the "Create your day" mantra, then I have not an argument to presen...

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free will is relative - you can claim that you have free will. if you have already been manipulated (unaware) to think that truth is being presented, how can you tell that you are acting freely. i suggest reading the the thread labeled 'RSE discrepancies'. swami - would you agree, that if JZ is a fr...

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Hi again. The reference to RSE being a cult -- defining cult, as JourneyTR has stated, may enlighten you to your own awareness of the dysfunctional learning. It is a closed loop -- the learning comes from JZ to the students without accountability by the teacher. If you don't understand, then you are...

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Thank you for that article... made my day! How funny...

let the defense go on record to say:

"it has never been a problem before!"

I want to make a new T-shirt "Karma Happens"

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Forgive me... my post was not about method, rather about philosophy. Instead of how, why?

I apologize, as this may be the wrong thread. Hpp

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miri, i am not a student, but my partner believes that she can "create her day" (if she focuses enough). here is what i can tell you about the technique and attributes: -depression; life always seems to not cooperate with her creation, and her day never lives up to its expectation; obvious...

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Swami, I am not a former student, but am in a relationship with one. She also has a need to be 'different'... a need to have experiences that 'normal' people aren't privvy to. She claims out of body experiences, a better understanding of the teachings than the other students, and of course, the abil...

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wolf - totally agree, especially as an outsider. here is an opportunity to see, not just the socio-pathology of good 'ol Judith, but of a whole cross-section of students. my partner and i have to deal with one such student (it is hard to acknowledge that he is a "person"). the scariest of ...

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Cali Dreamz: If you could get my partner on here, she is Mac savvy... I think that that would be a GREAT alterior motive to get her on this website! Whatcha: I cc'ed you on an email that I sent to major newsmedia outlets and investigative reporters. I hope you received it. Concerning that, I have on...

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I would like to postulate that JZ's interest in bringing her "subjects" to Yelm has an alterior motive. - Abusers and controllers flourish in an atmosphere of isolation. Moving folks out to Yelm, taking them away from their friends/families, also physically removes them from their support ...

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LMAO

I just about pooped my pants

too funny, guys.

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Humbled, I am a personal friend of Audrey's and I know her field work and archery work for fact. She has no interest in marketing anything, and she does credit these things to Ramtha. Debbie used to be a personal friend, and I have witnessed both her and Kenny live doing the reading of cards. I don...

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Tree -- My questioning isn't to conclude with whether you believe Audrey has these psychic powers... I am questioning whether it has been accomplished outside of the school, in an environment that is not familiar, test given by people not affiliated with RSE, Audrey, friends of Audrey, without any g...

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along with the namefield.... I have seen Audrey find her card more accurately than anyone else, and in such a short amount of time ( 6- 7 minutes in a 2 acre lot). not to mention, I have seen her card placed on a FENCE POST, not just the usual fence, and she go right to her card. . I would like to,...

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Posing the question from a logical standpoint specific to this "finding your card game" (not that it needs to be discussed): can we make a list of all the variables? such as, were the cards always put in 1 or 2 or 3, or certain general areas; on fences, on 1 fence; are the people that find...

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And further, from my last reply, it keeps the RSE member to occupied/unavailable to receive love and closeness... what is life without love and closeness?

HumblePied Piper

Perhaps I am short-sighted on what really matters. With your insights, I am now seeing all the time these people spent on their disciplines and everything else the school has them do --- all of that time, being unavailable to their loved ones.

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Mr. Webmaster, sir. I had a special person email me advice on CPS. I replied to the emails, which I now understand I inadvertantly replied to messageboard@enlightenmefree.com. One was a long email... from a lazy man stand-point, can you retrieve those? or are they lost in cyberspace? If so, could yo...

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G2G - I have never even heard of Ramtha or the RSE till 2 years ago when I moved out here. These card tricks that Debbie shows??? it is memory. I've played card games all my life, and can count cards... especially if it is only 1 deck. I can shuffle the cards, and still come darn close to knowing wh...

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That video is histerical! Boy, wonder why JZ hasn't taken the huge fortune she has acquired and let Kenny double and triple it for her... you think she would go for that? I think there is much better classes to learn parlor tricks... these aren't even good ones. I think it is well beyond money-hungr...

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I tell you, those invisible bars came unshackled right there in Arizona. I will NEVER forget it. Your whole description is so moving and real. With my partner, I often wonder if she "feels" anything when talking about the disciplines. It seems canned, and perhaps, she can't tell if it is ...

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This is HilaRioUs... if not for the true parallels with RSE

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I would have to disagree about the dysfunctional childhood, my partner had a wonderful happy childhood with loving parents and has had a pretty typical life since. Good jobs, nice lifestyle, happy long term relationships with women. Its just the RSE stuff that makes him a bit weird, apart from that...

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10. Personalization. A primary weapon of cult indoctrination is to train members to believe that everything bad is their fault. The guilt that accompanies this sort of personalizing is crippling and controlling. You are out of the cult now, so it is important to take responsibility only for what is ...

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Cal D, It is a beautiful image you have in your head. For me, I try not to think of what the next life has in store... that future tripping removes me from the responsibilities of my life today. I don't understand, though, if you feel so passionately about these animals -- why isn't that dream/hope/...

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I am speaking from an observational stand-point- all the people I have met that have been involved at RSE... and I do say ALL that I have met, have either shared with me a dysfunctional family in their youth, a dysfunctional social network in their youth, or have given me the impression that their S...

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got it. great stuff, and it also makes me feel a bit better knowing that my critical thinking is intact. even though i love her (my partner) and think she loves me, when this stuff is discussed, her tendency is to make it as though i don't and can't understand... i'm not "open-minded"... i...

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yes, yes, yes... exactly. independent studies vs blind faith acceptance

thank you, David, for posting this

HumblePied Piper

California Dreamin'....Perhaps this info will help.. I hope this is not overwhelm for you.. if so.. Drink a big glass of Doctor Emoto's positively energized water.. Dark chuckle.. My partner has tried to use Dr Emoto and his cutting edge scientific discoveries as a way to "prove" that RSE...

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I'd be very willing to speak with you about CPS. I've done quite a lot of homework with regard to this overall topic. I have a lot to say. I'm going to email you privately within the next few days. Okay with you ? yes, please, i accept. i take it that, in the meantime, i should just chill... i have ...

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I would love to hear of something, appropriately timed with a wine ceremony, involving CPS. I am ignorant of all the event scheduling; could this be a possibility?

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Our 2 yr old, who was there with her (bio) dad, spoke "Glass of Wine", clearly and concisely. I am sick with worry and anxiety (although it is totally out of my control) because she is there right now, at the ranch. They have a beginners thingy -- 5 days, with her very sick dad, and all th...

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Thanks for the welcome, Tree - She doesn't speak much about JZ or JZR to me; I have made my views known to her on multiple occasions when we were dating, and moreso when she moved in with me. Those conversations "tire" her and produce no good results (in her opinion) for our relationship. ...

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Hello folks, This is my first reply. I have never attended, but my partner and her whole family has 20 years under their collective belts... I have watched several recordings and do agree with aussiegirl's analysis. I see nothing other than, perhaps, a level of psychosis in JZ. I had a thought that ...

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