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by joe sz
Mon May 23, 2011 5:13 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: should be under homor
Replies: 21
Views: 2667

Re: should be under homor

sad grandfather... Meccas? maybe Camping will finally submit to Allah and stop pretending to be His prophet 8) my guess is he's recalculating and will emerge with another date...or suggest that God used this as a lesson.. reminds me of Benjamin Creme, who I encountered twice in NM when he was on tou...
by joe sz
Sun May 22, 2011 3:06 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: should be under homor
Replies: 21
Views: 2667

Re: should be under homor

david, david, Have ye not heard that the prayers of the faithful have been used by the hosts on hi to spare you this karma in New Zealand? Have ye not learned the lesson from The Day the Earth Stood Still? As with all good cliff hangers, thy god saves when his hero is at the brink of destruction. Ev...
by joe sz
Sat May 21, 2011 8:55 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: should be under homor
Replies: 21
Views: 2667

Re: should be under homor

Camping employs 350 or so people in his radio enterprise out of Oakland Calf. average wage, $23,000. fully 80% of his employees or more do not believe in the end time hype and plan to be at work Monday morning. The devotees across the nation and world are another story. Camping's "non-profit" busine...
by joe sz
Thu May 19, 2011 8:49 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
Replies: 9
Views: 1490

Re: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha

Psss....as a caution, the skeptiko site promotes an idea that some science does and can prove or disprove spiritual experience of out of body/after life awareness without resorting to spiritual or religious faith. I do not completely buy into it religiously or skeptically, thus the tension you sense...
by joe sz
Thu May 19, 2011 5:52 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
Replies: 9
Views: 1490

SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha

from Internet radio show: "Alex Tsakiris: Today we welcome Joe Szimhart to Skeptiko. Joe is an expert on cults and has been counseling, lecturing, and helping people with cult-related issues since breaking away from a New Age sect in the 1980s. Joe, welcome to Skeptiko. Joe Szimhart: Yeah, glad to b...
by joe sz
Sun May 15, 2011 3:09 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Ramtha School since covering, has No More Masters of Cards
Replies: 9
Views: 2883

Re: Ramtha School since covering, has No More Masters of Car

Dove, you reminded me of something I observed decades ago with clients and in myself--- the lesson one learns on the path to enlightenment from a deceptive cult leader is that the cult leader is deceptive and not enlightened AND I can be fooled. The true master is one that bows out of the cult after...
by joe sz
Sat May 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: event on sunday
Replies: 30
Views: 3344

Re: event on sunday

Vanilla, No one predicted that Heaven's Gate run by Marshall Applewhite would end in ritual, mass suicide but that became a small, closed cult that caused little tension with neighbors at the end, and it had no celebrities to attract much attention to it. The similarity here to RSE/JZ is that the le...
by joe sz
Sat May 14, 2011 7:49 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: The Great Oom
Replies: 1
Views: 988

Re: The Great Oom

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Oom-Improbable-Birth-America/dp/B004KAB528/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1305398886&sr=8-1 From Publishers Weekly Eastern spirituality and Western commercialism fuse in this flamboyant tale of an iconic American guru. Journalist Love tells the story of Pierre Bernard, a ...
by joe sz
Sat May 14, 2011 7:05 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: event on sunday
Replies: 30
Views: 3344

Re: event on sunday

May 21 is Judgment Day: Christian group By Janet Davison, CBC News If the signs are to be believed, the end of the world as we know it starts on May 21. Billboards are popping up around the globe, including in major Canadian cities, proclaiming May 21 as Judgment Day. "Cry mightily unto GOD for HIS ...
by joe sz
Sat May 14, 2011 6:39 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: The Great Oom
Replies: 1
Views: 988

The Great Oom

The Great Oom: The Improbable Birth of Yoga in America by Robert Love (2010) is a great read filled with fascinating details about the crazy quilt of seekers and gurus during the first half of the 20th Century. This is a bio about Pierre Bernard (born Perry Baker in Iowa in 1876) later dubbed as the...
by joe sz
Thu May 12, 2011 7:20 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: event on sunday
Replies: 30
Views: 3344

Re: event on sunday

Lost, I no longer believe in prayer magic, those studies you refer to as science suck as far as I see, and even as a catholic [or because I am] I do not see prayer as anything more than communion with the sacred. I won't go in to why but one criticism of this sort of mantra magic or so-called eviden...
by joe sz
Wed May 11, 2011 5:09 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: event on sunday
Replies: 30
Views: 3344

Re: event on sunday

wow, Lost---you read all 13 of Left Behind! Impressive. I could stomach only the first one. Another in that vein is Perretti's "This Present Darkness" which is the 1st of a series that sold well among fundies but not a bad read. It gives an idea how fundamentalists believe prayer works to stimulate ...
by joe sz
Tue May 10, 2011 8:01 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: event on sunday
Replies: 30
Views: 3344

Re: event on sunday

EVERY CULT LEADER that stresses immanent apocalypse uses revelations to create a crisis in the group mind. This works very well to keep all believers anxious, thus easier to manipulate. The fear factor works to increase giving time to workshops and giving more money to leader. The JWs find this form...
by joe sz
Sat May 07, 2011 10:43 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
Replies: 9
Views: 1766

Re: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..

learn to erase the effects the mothership and the motherf**k*r who put it there... recovery theory engages all the new promising science behind the "plasticity" of the brain....fMRIs and all that show how the brain heals after addiction and after years of constricted cultthink. I still recommend a f...
by joe sz
Fri May 06, 2011 9:47 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
Replies: 9
Views: 1766

Re: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..

On the other hand you can also be psychotic and see things that aren't there. Hey, Judy?... skilled hypnotists can suggest things to smell, hear, and see that are not there and the compliant client will smell, hear, or see it. a hypnotist can also suggest away something that is there---one video I ...
by joe sz
Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:14 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
Replies: 4
Views: 1587

Re: satya sai baba--pseudo magician

Sai Baba, spiritual guru to millions, dies at 85 New-age icon dies of heart and breathing problems Reputation marred by sexual abuse allegations Jason Burke in Delhi guardian.co.uk, Sunday 24 April 2011 The death of Sri Sathya Sai Baba at the age of 85 from heart and breathing problems has prompted ...
by joe sz
Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:45 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Raelian ex members say...
Replies: 0
Views: 1127

Raelian ex members say...

There are some parallels to JZR with Claude Verilhon/aka Rael who claims to have been contacted by space ship aliens and "Elohim", now with more than 50,000 followers by some accounts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Vorilhon Dr Susan Palmer has studied this ufo sect since 1987--she's not too cr...
by joe sz
Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:37 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

Re: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES

yes, there was a korean cult led by a woman in the 90s--all 36 committed suicide. another in Australia were "Breatharians" led by a woman and someone died. But most of the more vicious cult endings are led by men. The Church Universal & Truimphant one led by Eliz Prophet was close to becoming anothe...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:35 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Father Micael eats at Burger King
Replies: 1
Views: 765

Re: Father Micael eats at Burger King

V, I've researched several hundred cult leaders in depth over the years. "Discrepancy" is more the rule than exception in diet, behavior, finances, sexual activity, D&A abuse, etc. The rule for totalist, self-proclaimed gurus goes something like this: You must follow the rules to protect yourself un...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:54 pm
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Yelm
Replies: 26
Views: 3080

Re: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Ye

I reviewed this book which is a send up of Festinger's study When Prophecy Fails http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_imaginaryfriends.htm Cultic Studies Review, Vol. 5, No. 1, 2006 Imaginary Friends Alison Lurie Abacus, 1967 original. Owl Publishing Company; New York, NY: Henry Holt a...
by joe sz
Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:03 pm
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
Replies: 6
Views: 1784

Re: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?

my "art" page is under construction--so more coming soon since i got a studio 2 mo ago at the goggleworks art center---trying to reboot an old career ;-) That painting is one in a line of liturgical pieces I've done---it is going to a show in Dayton OH ....ravens were common during crucifixions, rea...
by joe sz
Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:11 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
Replies: 4
Views: 1370

Re: DO WHAT THOU WILT

Ockham, Actually....there were many new spiritual movements already camped as "Gnostic Schools". One I am dealing with now is The Gnostic Movement headed but the controversial Mark Pritchard who calls himself Belzebuub--may have mentioned this in another post. So, i imagine JZ and co. have to be car...
by joe sz
Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:07 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
Replies: 4
Views: 1587

satya sai baba--pseudo magician

Montreal Gazette By JOE SCHWARCZ, Freelance April 16, 2011 He vanished the Taj Mahal. He made a train full of people disappear. He can turn a baby elephant into a horse. He performs to full houses more than 400 times a year, travels with a crew of 75, carries 48 tons of equipment, an elaborate laser...
by joe sz
Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:00 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES

http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/inde ... an_we.html

A good example of fanatical devotion and where it can lead...
joe
by joe sz
Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:10 am
Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
Topic: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
Replies: 6
Views: 1784

Re: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?

V...
Geis is still at it around NY/NJ area --a few years ago I exit counseled 8 of his inner cult who left him--he still has control over a few women and a young man, as far as i know. Ramtha's "prediction" was naive...see:
http://www.jszimhart.com/theater_cult
by joe sz
Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:56 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
Replies: 4
Views: 1370

Re: DO WHAT THOU WILT

CROWLEY WAS A PROLIFIC [SECOND RATE] WRITER AND POET (oops too loud). he was a wastrel, lived for most of adult life on inheritance from a wealthy grandfather, was actually named "the Beast" by his mom when he was a teen due to behavior issues. He had several "Scarlett Women" who were his sex-magic ...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:43 am
Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
Topic: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart
Replies: 9
Views: 29024

Re: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart

Vanilla you made my day :-) Jeff Knight read an earlier version of the same article and he told me in 1990 it was "the icing on the cake" that blew Ramtha out of the water for him. It is nice that someone "thanks jesus" but someone had to sweat through all the info to put that essay together. But Je...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:25 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Replies: 24
Views: 4710

Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question

Cd and Robair et al your dilemma as to what can "I believe" now is so common with ex-members of any cult. One of the other former members groups I assist [as I can--ex-members are all over thw world] is this one----I posted an essay for them: http://www.movementsofgnostics.com/2011/04/11/belzebuub-a...
by joe sz
Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:19 pm
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: My sister
Replies: 8
Views: 1518

Re: My sister

even IF JZ/R had made a proper prediction, so what? Look where the sovereign masters end up? A circus in Yelm where they parade to watch the two-headed lady prance around on stage as they perform rituals in the carnival spook house. Yelm is no safer than anywhere else along the firey belt that rims ...
by joe sz
Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:05 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
Replies: 4
Views: 1370

DO WHAT THOU WILT

Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) created an ouvre as "the Beast 666" and the go-to guy for wannabe satanists and practitioners of "Magick"---a word he coined. In a recent, well-researched biography by Lawrence Sutin (2000) [Do What Thou Wilt: a life of Aleister Crowley---483 pages] the reader can find a...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:15 pm
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Is Ramtha There?
Replies: 12
Views: 2974

Re: Is Ramtha There?

interesting view using the 'black' icons of hinduism and catholics. There are similarities. The general Hindu approach, as I understand it, to religious expression is layered. All layers are considered "real". At one level the gods and deities are real entities, especially to devotional Krishna and ...
by joe sz
Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:48 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Is Ramtha There?
Replies: 12
Views: 2974

Re: Is Ramtha There?

yes, free, it is 'infestation.' that would be what the minister's wife had in my example. but all this is academic. As ex points out, look at the "fruits" of what JZ has wrought. If we examine RSE philosophically according to knowledge conduct governance RSE gets very poor marks. During a very slow ...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:59 pm
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Is Ramtha There?
Replies: 12
Views: 2974

Re: Is Ramtha There?

not sure if what I say here is gospel, but demonic affliction [the Latin is often mistranslated as "possession" but affliction is the proper meaning] can occur in 4 ways: obsession, oppression, ??, or possession. Here is Catholic Encyclop: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm According to this...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:02 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Is Ramtha There?
Replies: 12
Views: 2974

Re: Is Ramtha There?

A.D. there is some validity to what you say. According to the literature demons choose to come and go but are more like parasites, that once they settle in, there they stay and thrive until dismissed. In most cases, the individual can heal themselves through prayer and 'fasting' [does not mean starv...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:58 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Is Ramtha There?
Replies: 12
Views: 2974

Re: Is Ramtha There?

there was a time when I firmly believed that it was possible to either be possessed, or be a medium to some other entity. I had always been taught, however, that this was a Very Bad Thing and could comprise the firmly closed door to the soul, lead one into madness, cause problems for future incarna...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:26 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Guest Speaker Roseanne Barr at RSE
Replies: 10
Views: 2357

Re: Guest Speaker Roseanne Barr at RSE

could the connection here be the same plastic surgery firm?

crazy is as crazy does....
by joe sz
Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:50 pm
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: Dr.Ian Wickram felony charges
Replies: 8
Views: 2232

Re: Dr.Ian Wickram felony charges

the wickram guy may be scum "as it were" in his sexual behavior but that has nothing to do with his crappy "science." “She’s not faking it,” added Dr.Ian Wickram of San Francisco’s Saybrook Institute. “we got results which could not have been manipulated”! "Faking it?" Faking what? It matters not a ...
by joe sz
Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:48 am
Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
Topic: Doomsday & doomsday cults
Replies: 8
Views: 2609

Re: Doomsday & doomsday cults

The rise of apocalypticism What on earth is the world is coming to? Montreal Gazette By AL KRATINA, Freelance February 19, 2011 The world is coming to an end. Depending on how closely you paid attention in science class, the above statement could either refer to entropy on a massive time scale or a ...
by joe sz
Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:41 am
Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
Topic: the truth about the mayan calendar
Replies: 2
Views: 846

Re: the truth about the mayan calendar

good toon! http://news.aol.com/story/_a/thousands-expect-apocalypse-in-2012/20080706152409990001 Experts laugh off these notions. "These prophecies of doom really don't have any basis in what we know about the Maya," said Stephen Houston, an anthropology professor at Brown University and an expert i...
by joe sz
Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:56 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: The Demons & Jinn Watching Us As We Focus Into Mirrors
Replies: 6
Views: 1158

Re: The Demons & Jinn Watching Us As We Focus Into Mirrors

there, here, hear. I watched the link you suggested. http://www.youtube.com/user/snake85eater#p/u/28/5sqru4xvNhY I have no idea what it means. Can you explain it for us? People on mental wards are the least 'mind controlled' because their minds are out of control. That is primarily why they are ther...
by joe sz
Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:33 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: STAND BY ME
Replies: 3
Views: 863

STAND BY ME

for those who have not seen this, enjoy!
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2539741
by joe sz
Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:44 am
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pyramid power
Replies: 3
Views: 915

Re: pyramid power

Thanks. It does appear Craig is the opportunist, and JZ/RSE is an opportunist on the coattails of New Age 2012 apocalyptic hype. This "new age" dawning of the Age of Aquarius thing or turn of the ages has been around forever. More recently [1890s] the Masons launched a magazine called The New Age . ...
by joe sz
Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:32 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Question about "Val Valerian"
Replies: 3
Views: 1103

Re: Question about "Val Valerian"

Wiz, To answer your questions, yes 1 and 2 are the same from what I can tell on the website. I do not believe there was/is a personal connection between V V and JZ although a number of RSE folk I knew read the V V Matrix stuff and perhaps JZ also read it. Maybe someone else knows more or better than...
by joe sz
Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:49 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Question about "Val Valerian"
Replies: 3
Views: 1103

Re: Question about "Val Valerian"

Wiz I looked over V V Matrix effusionisms many years ago and just looked at what this self-absorbed occultist is doing now--no growth, same old matrix. VV has a fixed delusion that he somehow has tapped into the cutting edge of human evolution and perception. You are quite correct, I think, that his...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:10 pm
Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
Topic: Are Cult victims gullible?
Replies: 39
Views: 5336

Re: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hy

I can't recall how many times I've lectured about the cult problem. No matter what the audience grouping, be they Mensa conf attendees, Freemasons, Native Americans, Police depts, college students, skeptics organizations, clergy, psych hospital staff---I am asked the same question: What kind of pers...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:51 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 'The Rockumentary'
Replies: 13
Views: 3031

Re: 'The Rockumentary'

that was quick--now the video is deleted!
http://vimeo.com/7993138 as of 3:40 pm today
Joe
by joe sz
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:30 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Manhunt for RSE cult couple Phillipe Neniere and Agnis Jarde
Replies: 55
Views: 7643

Re: Manhunt for cult couple

good points ex.. I read the recent article too. "no, we are not a cult." :roll: because J Gordon Melton, RSE's onetime resident scholar, said there are no such things as cults :roll: [he really did once on tv!] I'm reading a new book "Charles Manson Now" by a male Canadian psych nurse (Marlin Maryni...
by joe sz
Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:45 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
Replies: 5
Views: 1054

Re: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video

WE I meant only that There is in that nuisance category. There does not make effort at rational response to criticism---of course I am not referring to a person here but only to posts as presented. I do not know There or if the posts are even authentic in the sense of "honestly, this is how I really...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:47 pm
Forum: All Things EMF - Researching? Use our EMF Search Engine
Topic: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
Replies: 5
Views: 1054

Re: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video

SG I agree with you to quash There's impulsive nonsense posts and if s/he needs it I sincerely hope There is helped. We work crisis lines at the psych hospital in my dept among a host of other responsibilities so we get a portion of anxious, drunk or mentally distrurbed callers who abuse the system ...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:30 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hypns
Replies: 3
Views: 1817

Re: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hy

;-) There, there is another more sophisticated use of "doubling" developed by Robert J Lifton in his well worth the read book "The Nazi Doctors". Lifton defines doubling as the antisocial behavior of someone who can act benign around his wife, kids and family on one hand then go to work as a doctor ...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:05 pm
Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
Topic: pyramid power
Replies: 3
Views: 915

pyramid power

Someone who had no idea who Ramtha was until he bought a small desk ornament [pyramid] emailed me about this site. I wasn't aware of it before. http://precisionpyramids.com/ The site promotes RSE: http://www.precisionpyramids.com/pyramidlinks.htm Anyone know who this "Craig" is in lalaland around Ye...
by joe sz
Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:44 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Is there any truth to this?
Replies: 15
Views: 2330

Re: Is there any truth to this?

The Mausoleum is open every day from 10:00 am to 1:00 pm, except Mondays and Fridays. Visitors still wait in long lines to see Lenin's body, for which entrance is free of charge. Visitors are required to show respect while in the tomb; photography and videotaping inside the mausoleum are forbidden,...
by joe sz
Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:09 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: RSE in Australia
Replies: 8
Views: 1430

Re: RSE in Australia

bluesky, the story you tell of this mother is almost a parody of too many similar stories I've dealt with over the years, with dozens from the ramtha cult. what the husband in this case might experience from the Ramtha wife falls under the category of 'gaslighting'. I just helped a nurse I know reco...
by joe sz
Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:12 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

I think that what Lost does has tremendous value for people ooking to live with meds with some success typo--meant to say "for people looking to live without meds" the studies I've seen re depression show that most patients with clinical depression rise out of depression with or without medication ...
by joe sz
Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:58 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

thanks oldone. this is both an unwieldy and important topic as WE, Lost and others have so eloquently in their own ways stated. The struggle as i see it has been apparent since the days of Freud and Jung who both tried to use scientific principles to treat clients yet find ways to address metaphysic...
by joe sz
Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:30 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

back on the rails :arrow: The people from RSE that I am acquainted with are quite sane, and I would say the same thing about most people here on EMF. I have to say, I don't believe in DSM either, Joe. All the best, Lost in Space Lost, I get your point but need to address the "faith" issue. Is "sane"...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:47 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
Replies: 2
Views: 892

Re: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980

oldone being in trance, aka entranced, is a state of mind in which peripheral reality and discursive thought are diminished. One can be either deeply focussed or feeling generally diffused [dissociated] but the key is lack of applied reason and questioning. If you notice, stage hypnotists use a rapi...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:25 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

this thread is close to going off the rails..... as to orb demons, et al: I tell my clients who believe in/or feel effected by this woo-woo stuff, who believe/experience the dangerous or benign occult powers of their gurus [Satya Sai Baba, Zen Master Rama, for example] that I have been an open criti...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:17 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
Replies: 2
Views: 892

Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980

Someone involved with Ramtha in the earliest days in Richard Chamberlain's house contacted me and sent me audio tapes from 10May1980. Jeff Knight and others i won't mention are on the maybe 2 hours of the session. It has been over 2 decades since I've listened to early ramtha tapes. Sorting the word...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:04 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

Lost, you said: I think Ex is right, they only have the power over you that you give them. Not so fast. I think that some of what 'There' is bringing up re hypnosis is accurate. We all can be manipulated to do what is normally against our will or awareness. the S Milgram experiments, Prof Phillip Zi...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:49 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Replies: 47
Views: 6035

Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?

the wiki post on Tod checks out: Todd was arrested in May 1987 for the rape of a University of South Carolina graduate student. After his arrest, he was additionally charged with sexually molesting two children who attended a karate school where he worked. He was convicted of the rape in January 198...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:33 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: "The List"
Replies: 25
Views: 2287

Re: Constellations

W.E. "Silent decrees (ribbit affirmations) and spoken decrees (rapid and loud ribbits)" ROFLOL, Joe. So apt. Although I was not a member of CUT, the organisation I belonged to taught us to 'heal' etc, using white light and coloured rays of energy. I remember it well. Only when studying psychology di...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:52 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: "The List"
Replies: 25
Views: 2287

Re: Constellations

I had a colleague in the deprogramming field decades ago who had some brilliant if simple challenges to people who overvalued the power of prayer. He was a Vietnam vet that got caught up in a Bible cult for many years, then broke away with the help of an ex-member. Sadly, he died in the early 1990s ...
by joe sz
Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:37 pm
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: "The List"
Replies: 25
Views: 2287

Re: Constellations

thanks for posting the subliminal "ribbit" list, KL I see how readily JZ and her crew have fallen into basic New Thought patterns. The idea behind new thought and the 'science of mind' movements is that thought itself conditions reality, and not only personal reality but thought with intention can c...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:03 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

I hope you will not mind me quoting here from your review: "faith in God relies on a slim intuition at the borders of our testable reality." Mmmm, yes, I do agree. did i really write that? Some insight must have slipped in... The corollary is that faith implies an awarenes of some kind of relations...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:49 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material
Replies: 16
Views: 3326

Re: Strange findings...

C&C careful, mate. I've been at this cult expose business and helping "others" since 1980. It is easy to get overwhelmed as well as messy. the former because you are entering crazy territory riddled with anti-social personalities, schizophrenia, deceit, and delusion--not to mention rigid true believ...
by joe sz
Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:09 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

let us keep paddling..... marie, I reviewed Lobdell's Losing my Religion on Amazon/if interested scroll down: http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Religion-Reporting-America-Unexpected/product-reviews/B002QGSWGK/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_3?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addFourStar&pageNumber=3 I ask at the end ...
by joe sz
Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:56 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

JZ/Ramtha and her "Church of the I Am' actually did thrust everyone of you (and me by default) into this discussion on this thread. You all bought into her claim that "Ramtha is Christ for you for this age", an early White Book era teaching. You bought the idea that some big guy with a beard in the ...
by joe sz
Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:51 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

god as character could mean what are god's traits? Traditional Islam gives 99 'names' or traits of Allah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam only one is truly harsh, the Avenger. This also comes from Jewish tradition: Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. one post used that old canard o...
by joe sz
Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:06 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

I agree w Oldone: This discussion could be fruitful in the right context. There are many 'christian' related sites on the Net. perhaps Duk and others can join one of them. Those recovering from RSE and similar groups like Prophet's CUT in my case, have special needs. ex-CUT members find catholicism ...
by joe sz
Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:01 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
Replies: 36
Views: 4051

Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character

I sure would like to hear Joe’s take in all of this since he has struggle with it much longer than all of us and seem to have found a place of peace. Oldone Just lost my elaborate answer to this---took too long and the 'submit' kicked it off :-x I'll save this one before trying to post.... An old f...
by joe sz
Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:12 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

GOOD POINT AD---REAL FOOD vs MYSTERY MEAT AND KOOL-AID there was a "back to Blavatsky" movement among Theosophists who were upset with the Besant-Leadbeater-Krishnamurti direction tyhat was embarrassing the TS in the press around 1910-1920, according to Guenon. Leadbeater always had sweet young male...
by joe sz
Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:22 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

correction;
Guenon managed to recover from his 7 year stint in Parisian occult circles as a college grad, then, as an "ex-member" get his PhD in math and go on to excel in metaphysics.
he did his thesis in math, on Leibniz---his "theological' doctoral dissertation was rejected.
by joe sz
Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:12 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

AD I see what you mean about "sameness" but i also see that having that "experience" of oneness is universal. L in Space reports how UUs derive from that Principle to come up with a list of worthy "principles" as do all religions and cults with their codes, mission statements, beliefs. Guenon would ...
by joe sz
Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:28 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

W.E. I'd like to hear others weigh in in this weighty :?: also reminds of a story about the angry Unitarian who burned a question mark on his neighbor's lawn... I guess I am saying that maintaining a position of 'oneness' is innocuous enough as long as one does not move to express it or put it into ...
by joe sz
Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:37 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

W.E. That is the ultimate "conclusion" or cliche that 'we are all one'. Even mathematician Fr. LeMaitre who invented the so-called "big bang" theory called it a "singularity" that all we call the universe emerged from. Blavatsky and her Theosophists claim to represent this "one source" of all religi...
by joe sz
Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:22 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

W..E.. My inclination after all these years of skeptical application is to continue to accept a 'philosophia perennis' or a 'theosophy' that is behind everything. Jacob Boehme an earlier, idiosyncratic [is there any other kind?] theosophist called it the "Ungrund". Some forms of Deism fall under per...
by joe sz
Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:51 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

discussing this stuff makes me 'barmy' too sometimes :shock: it is like skating on thin ice imbedded with gravel over a murky lake on Mars....that's a mindfull...sorry ;-) I did get Rene Guenon's [original 1921] book in the mail yesterday and I am well into it. Like revisiting an old eccentric frien...
by joe sz
Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:45 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

btw, WofthesunEofthemoon great limerick about HPB! I still think that "Ancient Wisdom Revived: A history of the Theosophical movement" is one of the best scholarly resources on Theosophy and HPB by Bruce Campbell (1980) I more esoteric, densely written book in French "Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-...
by joe sz
Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:51 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Helena Blavatsky
Replies: 26
Views: 3206

Re: Helena Blavatsky

have not posted lately, moved my household into a smaller, older, needs work home. --even had to reset my password that I forgot. HPB always attracts my attention. The first long research paper I wrote in 1983 after I left CUT/Summit Lighthouse was "Mad B's Myth" at 100+ pages [it was referenced in ...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:54 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
Replies: 3
Views: 1352

gerald bryan

btw, I interviewed Gerald Bryan's widow, Olive, in 1982. She said he was a wonderful man, a chiropractor who got caught up briefly with the I AM until he smelled the rats inside the castle. He noted how many spouses were grieved over their mate's breaking up with them because they would not join the...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:42 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
Replies: 3
Views: 1352

email correction

sorry bout that, hidesert

my email is
jszimhart@windstream.net
not dot 'com'
my old email still works as well
jszimhart@dejazzd.com
by joe sz
Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:47 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
Replies: 3
Views: 1352

Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940

Psychic Dictatorship in America was published by Gerald Bryan in 1940 under 'Truth Publications'. The book is a collection of a series of monographs or chapters he wrote in the late 1930s to expose the "I AM" Activity cult founded by Guy and Edna Ballard around 1933. It's been out of print since the...
by joe sz
Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:59 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Dr Susan Blackmore Changed Her Mind About The Paranormal
Replies: 3
Views: 1152

there may be "11 dimensions"...who knows. String theory, eg, in physics that attempts to tap into other dimensions is yet in its infancy and may be scrapped by science someday anyway for something more coherent. Skepticism is at the root of all philosophy which exists to refine questions about knowl...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:51 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Dr Susan Blackmore Changed Her Mind About The Paranormal
Replies: 3
Views: 1152

women and skeptics

I heard Blackmore lecture a couple of times at Skeptics conferences. She was one of the rare females to speak or attend these conferences that I estimate as 85% or more male dominated. Another interesting factoid is that most New Thought, New Age, psychic and occult religion participants and leaders...
by joe sz
Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:28 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ms. Knight's Altered Ego
Replies: 6
Views: 1337

self-talking

Channeling has, in my view, always been self-talking. Shirley MacLaine, that paragon of popular enlightened self-talk, was highly influenced by jzramthaisms [they did drink redwine and get sloppy drunk together during those expensive ($1000 a half hr?) private sessions per "Dancing in the Light" by ...
by joe sz
Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Ms. Knight's Altered Ego
Replies: 6
Views: 1337

illusionist It seems to me you confuse or equate Ramtha w Ms Knight who as far as I can tell remains a 'student' of the big R and as such has not attained enlightenment, so all her foibles, flaws, inabilities to sustain a naturally youthful face, soured relationships, false advertising in Arabian ho...
by joe sz
Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:14 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: old litigation tactics arise
Replies: 0
Views: 1235

old litigation tactics arise

The by now legendary lawsuit Scientology leveled against Time Magazine http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html [CoS lost eventually] set a highwater mark in aggressive cult tactics to silence freedom of press and speech. Here they go again. St Petersburg Times has been report...
by joe sz
Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:15 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: "David Wants to Fly" film on TM
Replies: 1
Views: 1022

"David Wants to Fly" film on TM

Perhaps we will someday have a similar film for a festival re the RSE experience. Title could be " Vinny wants to Void " or something like that ;-) "Posted by Gina at 2/18/2010 03:10:00 PM "David Wants to Fly" is receiving wonderful reviews at the Berlin Film Festival, per links in German, below. Pl...
by joe sz
Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:21 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Scientology - !
Replies: 41
Views: 10833

ex-co$ speak out at recent conference

By Randy Sly > 2/15/2010 > > Catholic Online (www.catholic.org) > > On Friday, six ex-scientologists spoke out about their experiences inside > the Church of Scientology at a Press Conference in Hollywood. > > > > WASHINGTON, D.C. (Catholic Online) – The airwaves of Los Angeles were > buzzing w...
by joe sz
Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:39 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: disciplines
Replies: 10
Views: 1562

flying reindeer

on another thread [scientific test of jz] I posted an example of the protocols that Randi and scientists would require to test a paranormal claim. This also includes the agreement of the psychic to the protocol, of course. I heard Randi lecture once about this protocol. The example he used was the c...
by joe sz
Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:38 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: how to test paranormal
Replies: 7
Views: 2023

how to test paranormal

fyi, setting up proper protocol for testing a psychic or for psychic power is not so easy. To psychics the very protocols interfere with their psychic ability---a copout. eg. I've experienced mediums and channels refusing to perform or failing to read my aura because I was in the room or my energy w...
by joe sz
Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:19 am
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: disciplines
Replies: 10
Views: 1562

Kenny and Debbie seem to think seeing future numbers can make for some good horse racing and roullette +EV gamblings. (as a direct result, in their eyes, from being able to see through the cards). I know over 30 people can now do this. Anyone have a scientific explanation for this? :roll: I'm from ...
by joe sz
Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:40 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Scientology - !
Replies: 41
Views: 10833

Two days after the tragedy, and presenting themselves as an organisation called National Mental Health Assistance, representatives of the Church of Scientology duped Fox News into running the church's freephone number for five hours on the bottom of the screen, apparently in the belief that it was ...
by joe sz
Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:38 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Scientology - !
Replies: 41
Views: 10833

parasites in Haiti

Problems with groups like RSE and CoS are the layers of hidden agendas and the bottom line of failing to deliver anything remotely resembling the promises on their brochures and websites....read on. This UK commentary hits a bullseye in my view. Don't panic Haiti, the Scientologists are coming! For ...
by joe sz
Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:36 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: social influence study
Replies: 1
Views: 906

social influence study

This new study reinforces social influence theory as well as explaining how the events of The Wave [film based on the 1967 high school experiment gone awry] occured. I think it can help explain why someone "joins" a group like RSE especially after attending a workshop or event AND how one can better...
by joe sz
Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:53 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Ramtha ?virus? spreading?
Replies: 18
Views: 3094

black sun

This book by Goodrick-Clarke will give you all you need to know re theosophy and Nazism http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_blacksun.htm Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke New York: New York University Press, 2002, 371 pages. ...
by joe sz
Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:43 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Ramtha ?virus? spreading?
Replies: 18
Views: 3094

theosophy's anti-semitic bugaboo

RSE in Israel poses a host of problems IF they make the news there. Israel has been tough on "sects" settling there, eg Scientology. Yet some have managed to find limited acceptance [for example the Black Hebrews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites Main article: African Hebrew Isra...
by joe sz
Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:43 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
Replies: 46
Views: 8523

Arizona news Jan 12

Sweat-lodge documents reveal chaotic scene Arizona Republic, January 12, 2010 By JJ Hensley The participants in James Ray's fatal sweat lodge outside Sedona describe a chaotic scene and a spiritual leader that was reckless and had admittedly "let his ego get in the way" during prior events, accordin...
by joe sz
Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:17 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: dahn hak yoga 'cult'
Replies: 3
Views: 1469

good links for dahn hak, Cat. Makes you think how cults use the brain to fool the brain 8) It goes back to what Kathleen Taylor explains in her science oriented book "Brainwashing": chapter on 'The Traitor in your Skull' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing_(book) This book should studied by ev...
by joe sz
Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:07 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: dahn hak yoga 'cult'
Replies: 3
Views: 1469

dahn hak yoga 'cult'

Steve Hassan and I are quoted in this Jan 2010 Glamour Magazine article:
http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2009/12 ... 0000195005

If you know anyone in it or ex-members, they may be interested
joe
by joe sz
Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:41 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 400 years of imaginary friends
Replies: 3
Views: 1963

a real and good imaginary friend

(CNN) -- A small town in Luxembourg once destroyed by fierce fighting remembers one of the bright moments in the dark of World War II -- a visit from Saint Nick. For Dick Brookins, a U.S. soldier standing in for an absent Saint Nicholas, it was to change his life also and help him find some meaning ...
by joe sz
Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:17 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: 400 years of imaginary friends
Replies: 3
Views: 1963

400 years of imaginary friends

I have permission to send a pdf file to any individual who requests to read the out of print book "400 Years of Imaginary Friends" by Kenneth Paolini and Talita Paolini (2000). This is a self-published personal testimony and historical survey by ex-members of Church Universal and Triumphant who were...
by joe sz
Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:24 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: possessed by spook lawsuit
Replies: 0
Views: 974

possessed by spook lawsuit

Rare witchcraft charge laid Fraud Alleged National Post December 11, 2009 Amy Husser, Canwest News Service Police have invoked a rarely used witchcraft charge against a Toronto woman accused of defrauding a lawyer of nearly $150,000 after she reportedly suggested she was possessed by his dead sister...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:57 am
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: Miceal Ledwith
Replies: 8
Views: 7042

fox and starhawk

I got curious about Ledwith now that you brought him up, looked over his info on the web. This is from http://www.ramtha.com/teachers/Miceal_Ledwith.asp "The insights of leading-edge science indicate a very different understanding of God and our place and purpose in creation than the ways of thought...
by joe sz
Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:22 pm
Forum: Children in RSE
Topic: Miceal Ledwith
Replies: 8
Views: 7042

http://www.regainnetwork.org/ Cat The website above regards Fr Maciel, another controversial priest/founder of Legionairies of Christ. I know J Paul Lennon, an ex-priest, who helps to run ReGain and who used to belong to the Legion. He's native Irish and may know more about Ledw. Lennon wrote "Our F...
by joe sz
Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:47 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: How to be a charatan & make millions
Replies: 2
Views: 1026

20/20

The 20/20 team visited with me and videotaped me at my home, then in New Mexico, for that piece they did on Ramtha @ 1987. Jud Rose and dave Doss [producer] both told me about the interviews they did with Sandy Fallis and other old friends of JZ. Those former friends were apparently clear about what...
by joe sz
Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:01 am
Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
Topic: Many new Masters of Cards?
Replies: 45
Views: 6674

slight of hand brainswashing

like magic most brainwashing techniques operate through misdirection. Eg, in boot camps that militaries set up world-wide for new recruits, the apparent reason for the boot camp is for training and fitness as well as instruction in combat, etc. The underlying effect and purpose of all that pressure ...
by joe sz
Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:10 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
Replies: 36
Views: 11055

edit: Sorry, I have a bad habit of spelling 'perennial' wrongly... :oops:
by joe sz
Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:55 am
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
Replies: 36
Views: 11055

perrenialism

The White Book is a presentation of the perennial philosophy, the perennial Wisdom, caste with a certain mythology around it, but I tried to keep it pure. I tried to keep it, ya know really in accord with what is call ?perennial philosophy?, if you?re familiar with that. There are two issues here t...
by joe sz
Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:49 am
Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
Topic: how do I deal with a partner still in the school?
Replies: 25
Views: 3815

Sympathy for the Devil

Great posts enlightenmypocket! Good people in bad cults is an old drama. The Rolling Stones released this song Sympathy for the Devil in 1968. One of the lines goes: Ah, what's puzzling you, Is the nature of my game.... Another goes: But what's confusing you, Is just the nature of my game Any number...
by joe sz
Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:19 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: hunk ra
Replies: 0
Views: 1086

hunk ra

Despite having matured, Boopsie is still easily influenced, and has gotten heavily into new age practices, which B.D. considers absurd. She firmly believes in reincarnation, ESP and channeling. She herself has had a great deal of unintentional success in the latter, and became a vessel for "Hunk-Ra...
by joe sz
Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:44 pm
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Banned from Private Messages.
Replies: 3
Views: 932

transparency and time

Over the years I have had to gather information on literally hundreds of RSEs. In every case i either purchased the materials outrights from the group or, more likely, after exit-counseling someone from the group, thus building an incredible deep trust, the ex-member would hand over the stuff knowin...
by joe sz
Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:51 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: obamacare and Christian Science
Replies: 2
Views: 948

my view

If this legistlation passes we will open the gates to a radical change in what we the taxpayers are required to support in medical expenses. "We don't believe there should be hurdles between an individual and spiritual treatment that could be the most important solution to healthcare in this country...
by joe sz
Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:22 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: obamacare and Christian Science
Replies: 2
Views: 948

obamacare and Christian Science

latimes.com Healthcare provision seeks to embrace prayer treatments A little-noticed measure would put Christian Science healing sessions on the same footing as clinical medicine. Critics say it violates the separation of church and state. By Tom Hamburger and Kim Geiger November 3, 2009 Reporting f...
by joe sz
Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:27 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
Replies: 20
Views: 3914

SG It is not so much an individual reponsibility to remain rational because no way can any one person no matter how smart he or she envisions the self, can be rational about all things in one lifetime. Its a relational thing and about the quailtiy of the relationships. That begins with the family sy...
by joe sz
Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:01 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
Replies: 20
Views: 3914

V brings up a host of popular concerns if Earth were invaded by an alien force disguised as a friendly advanced race. Liz Prophet of CUT and other Newage groups in the 60s--70s taught that humans were divided into types that had different types of heart-flame. A true "keeper of the flame" in CUT had...
by joe sz
Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:38 pm
Forum: RSE Discrepancies
Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
Replies: 20
Views: 3914

V pilot

You can see the new V pilot here:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/106763/v-pilot

great reptilian alien invasion flick remake of 1983 series. very good.
by joe sz
Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:46 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
Replies: 5
Views: 3018

Cat Kaukl makes a bogus issue out of the so-called "brainwashing" claims of Jeff Knight. Jeff claimed he was due more money than he got but that he was not able to think clearly about challenging the god ramtha/JZ at the time because that is how he viewed the relationship. He thought the Ram was rea...
by joe sz
Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:26 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
Replies: 5
Views: 3018

I am not sure if JZK ended up paying the $800,000 settlement No, she did not have to. This was an "evidentiary hearing" with no jury. The judge did not find enough evidence to totally prove that Jeff was a victim of fraud. His [Jeff's] attornies got costs/fees only. I was his first witness. I lost ...
by joe sz
Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:48 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: maria lionza religion in so america
Replies: 0
Views: 935

maria lionza religion in so america

Devotees of the Mar?a Lionza religion, a mix of Catholic, West African and other customs, make a pilgrimage each October to Sorte Mountain in Yaracuy State, Venezuela, home of the high altar to the religion's central figure. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/10/28/world/20091028VENEZ_index.html ...
by joe sz
Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:59 pm
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
Replies: 5
Views: 3018

Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993

3 Ramtha Pays More [J.Z. Knight, divorce] Spiritualist J.Z. Knight, known as Ramtha, was ordered in March to pay $125,00 in attorney fees and $24,160 in costs to attorneys involved in the divorce settlement case with her ex-husband Jeffrey Knight, who accused the famous "channeler" of coercing him t...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:20 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion
Replies: 4
Views: 1260

yes. I learned that from seeing "Cats" 4x with my wife.
by joe sz
Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:15 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

I heard that the new biography on Spalding that will be fact based and NOT newage fantasy is nearing completion. Stay tuned....it may be out in a year or so .
by joe sz
Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:50 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion
Replies: 4
Views: 1260

amazon review

yes see my review on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Religion-Reporting-America-Unexpected/product-reviews/0061626813/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addFourStar&pageNumber=2 Cats and the ineffable name, October 18, 2009 By Joe P. Szimhart (Douglassville, PA USA) Losing My ...
by joe sz
Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:31 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: amway litigation and new book
Replies: 0
Views: 1033

amway litigation and new book

http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/ New updated book by former longtime AMWAY leader "The book has been completely edited and updated to include details on class action lawsuits filed against Amway/Quixtar, law enforcement raiding Amway offices in India and The UK Department of Trade and Industry?s...
by joe sz
Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:23 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Scientology - !
Replies: 41
Views: 10833

paul haggis

Paul Haggis Renounces Church of Scientology in Blistering Letter

http://www.movieline.com/2009/10/paul-h ... p?page=all
by joe sz
Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:43 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: Wellspring Retreat and Resource Center
Replies: 4
Views: 2132

David, Most of the clients I referred or took there in past years were very pleased with the treatment and education they got there. Average stay was 2 - 3 weeks. I heard a few complaints as it is not a good fit for every personality. No place or therapy is. Most they could take at a time was six cl...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:23 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: landmark "training" exposed on french tv
Replies: 1
Views: 925

landmark "training" exposed on french tv

There is a convergence of techniques in almost all 'new age' mass therapy cults. The sweat lodge cult and RSE use similar behaviors as landmark, insight, psi-worold, tony robbins, lifespring, etc. this recent French news program [with English subtitles] is worth viewing: http://www.culthelp.info/ind...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:16 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
Replies: 46
Views: 8523

more nytimes

On a conference call Mr. Ray held last week for sweat lodge participants, Dr. Bunn was shocked to hear one recount the comments of a self-described ?channeler? who visited Angel Valley after the retreat. Claiming to have communicated with the dead, the channeler said they had left their bodies in t...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:04 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
Replies: 46
Views: 8523

ny times article

She also described a game ? enacted again at the retreat this month ? in which Mr. Ray wears white robes and plays God, ordering some participants to commit mock suicide. For the ?vision quest,? the exercise that required spending 36 hours in the desert without food or water, participants had sleep...
by joe sz
Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: I, Psychopath Documentary
Replies: 2
Views: 1145

God and the temporal lobes

Cat, I watched the i-psychopath documentary. very good, concise. It is important, as the film points out, never to make or impose a diagnosis until the results of scientific or reliable psychological tests are in. I looked at a few more documentaries on that url. I would recommend this one for ex-cu...
by joe sz
Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:12 am
Forum: Keith Raniere - NXIVM
Topic: Mark Vicente RSE - NXIVM' (ESP)
Replies: 10
Views: 7959

david, No, I have not exited anyone from the 'ESP' or NXV#*M cult. 3 weekends ago in Denver at the ICSA conference we had a memorial session to talk about Paul Martin. Very moving. He was one of my quiet heroes in this cult business with a meticulous scientific approach as well as having deep empath...
by joe sz
Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:55 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Frederick Lenz's Cult
Replies: 9
Views: 3366

I "exited" maybe 2 dozen people out of Lenz's cult so I had to study every nuance of his history and teaching---that meant listening to hours and hours of his lectures---ugh...and reading and reviewing his books for journals. Here's one review: www.csicop.org/si/show/snow_job_in_the_himalayas/ and a...
by joe sz
Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:40 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: elizabeth prophet dies
Replies: 3
Views: 1204

elizabeth prophet dies

Published 10.16.2009 Former CUT leader, 70, dies at home By Camden Easterling, Enterprise Writer Elizabeth Clare Prophet, founder and past president of Church Universal and Triumphant, died Thursday of complications from Alzheimer?s disease. She was 70. Prophet died at her home in Bozeman, said Thom...
by joe sz
Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:39 pm
Forum: Drug & Alcohol Use at RSE
Topic: Alcohol's benefits 'exaggerated'
Replies: 1
Views: 1054

This brings up one of the host of contradictions I found within movements that claim to represent the Great White Brotherhood or Theosophical Society milieu of "ascended masters". In the Agni Yoga teachings instituted by Nicholas and Helena Roerich @1920s under "Master Morya" it was clearly taught t...
by joe sz
Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:32 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
Replies: 46
Views: 8523

James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths

Deaths at Sweat Lodge Bring Soul-Searching New York Times By JOHN DOUGHERTY October 11, 2009 SEDONA, Ariz. ? Tucked into stunning red rock formations and canyons punctuated with splashes of green junipers, this town of about 11,500 has long been a high-end golf and tennis resort, the choice location...
by joe sz
Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:22 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 2850

caterpillar I got the book and am 85 pages into it. Lobdell intros his book with a quote from Descartes: If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. The book is an easy read. Nothing hammy or pin-headed so far.
by joe sz
Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:10 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 2850

losing my religion

Marie, This might be a new thread....but it relates to the pray idea also. I am reacting to your signature. I just got the book "Losing My Religion: How I Lost My Faith reporting in Religion in America--and Found Unexpected Peace" by William Lobdell (48, award winning jounalist). www.williamlobdell....
by joe sz
Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:45 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 2850

Marie, I hear what you mean about dogs but I am not so sure everyone feels the same about "their" dog. Dove, a in nail the church coffin came for me when I was sitting in church one Sunday and heard the minister say in his sermon that animals are "less" than people..anyone who has owned a dog knows ...
by joe sz
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:05 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

I missed Lisa's talk as i attended another one at the same time. I will have to read her paper too.

I wrote to Dr Whitsett to see if she has her paper or talk posted somewhere
Joe
by joe sz
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:15 pm
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: Do You Still Pray?
Replies: 14
Views: 2850

scared to sacred

David, et al, After i broke with Mother E C Prophet's cult in 1980, a cult that required an incessant amount of "prayer" called decreeing [hyperspeed chanting] as well as use of New Thought style affirmations and Hindu chants or 'bhajans', and I include Aums or Oms and Buddhist 'Om Mani Padme Om's--...
by joe sz
Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:49 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

denver icsa 2009 w hassan

I am on my way home after 2+ days of a conference put on by ICSA mainly for a limited venue--maybe 80 people inclunding many mental health pros w PhDs atended. Good conference,. S Hassan gave a talk on his take on altered states and hypnosis. I spent some time talking with him personally, catching u...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:37 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: The Guru Scene
Replies: 10
Views: 1668

decades ago I learned how to cast horoscopes and do astrological readings. I had readings by some famous, published astrologers as well as by just average ones that charge reasonable prices. I'll admit it--I was a quaisi-believer in the art back then but the quasi soon won out over the believer and ...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:27 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: The Guru Scene
Replies: 10
Views: 1668

horse of a different color

"To know things about yourself you could never see changes one's life in unimaginable ways," - Private Session participant I have no idea what that quote means. But I hear the same [almost exact] statement from people who see 2-bit astrologers. Could there be a connection? 8) These private sessions...
by joe sz
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:00 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Another cult leader's opinion of JZ
Replies: 18
Views: 2749

Interesting stuff on rajneesh/osho. There is still a huge market for Esalen-like workshops and that is basically what the Osho center in Pune, India offers now. By the time I came across them, his books did not impress me. Back in the day, I exit counseled a number of his sannyasins successfully but...
by joe sz
Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:31 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Video MRI scans on psychopaths
Replies: 5
Views: 1596

check out the latest SPECT brain scan this center uses to help treat addictions and mental illness. I've worked with people who have been to this treatment impressive center in AZ, Sierra Tucson. http://www.sierratucson.com/therapies_trtmnetmod.php I do not agree with all the treatment modalities th...
by joe sz
Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:53 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Movie - Bloodline
Replies: 9
Views: 1444

rottontomatoes

Here's a review I can agree with. But one question we all must ask isn this: If the Society for Biblical Literature and academics who study this stuff scientifically have not come up with evidence, why would you believe a sensational film maker? Bigfoot in mouth :lol: http://variagate.com/film08-2.h...
by joe sz
Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:31 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: Movie - Bloodline
Replies: 9
Views: 1444

hoax history

bloodline claims that the lineage of the priory of Sion exists. Not.... in my view. I reviewed the Da Vinci Code for several publications and looked into this then: http://icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_davincicode.htm my words: "The novel claims that Leonardo Da Vinci was a Grand Master of...
by joe sz
Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:50 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: mcgee
Replies: 13
Views: 2226

not within

"the power is within me." I find that exactly the message of Christ. ".... Which Christ is that? Certainly all the channeled New Agey Christs parrot the within routine ad nauseum, but is that what the Gospel tradition says? My answer has nothing to do with whether one is a Christian believer or not ...
by joe sz
Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:00 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: Meditative/Trance state may be HARMFUL
Replies: 1
Views: 2743

cat this is an excellent reference. Both science and common sense experience tell us that overloading any of the senses causes a disruption in brain fundtrion, therefore perception. eg, listening to rythmic drumming for many minutes will induce trance in most people to soe degree. Once in teance the...
by joe sz
Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:56 am
Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
Topic: The Ramtha Phenomenon-Geomagnetic Data- British Library
Replies: 12
Views: 2667

stage magic is about distracting people from the obvious with simple and elaborate diversions

Thanks for posting the real data from that study, Cat.
by joe sz
Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:33 am
Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
Topic: These Red Flags woke me up
Replies: 5
Views: 2471

dove
the red flags you described are valuable insights for anyone thinking of leaving RSE. Thanks.
best wishes,
joe
by joe sz
Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:38 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: religion and schizotypal traits
Replies: 1
Views: 884

religion and schizotypal traits

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/06/06/ev ... ion-s.html

This lecture [long, fast paced] by a Stanford professor is good for stimulating discussion and thoughts about why rituals and and odd religious beliefs occur
by joe sz
Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:05 am
Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
Replies: 8
Views: 2373

correction: i wrote She says she was in a "tunnel" like the sleeping prophet E Cayce In that Science of Mind article JZ says she went to bookstores after 1977 at the direction of R to help herself answer questions about "What is this? What am I to do?" "I'd gone to bookstores on his direction and on...
by joe sz
Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:01 pm
Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
Replies: 8
Views: 2373

No. I think she meant that Ramtha is in the same milieu as all those folks exhibiting and seeking for "healing" and "energy" at the psychic fair I attended. Here's the statement: "What I'm really honored to know about myself along with aboout seventy million other American people is that what we con...
by joe sz
Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:19 am
Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
Replies: 8
Views: 2373

science of mind & jz 2006

earlier today I went to a metaphysical fair or Annual Holistic & Spiritual Expo. It was in a Fire Company hall. I paid a $5 entry fee for the privelege of visiting perhaps a hundred exhibits. beyond the usual psychic readers, massage folks, reiki masters, and crystal healers there were pet psychics,...
by joe sz
Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:01 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: moved from Leaving RSE: the Aftermath-Leaving RSE and New..
Replies: 12
Views: 2286

good point littlewisewoman people with anti-social personality disorder see no right or wrong in their actions but are clever enough to lie or to hide when necessary to protect their own a$$. it is my personal experience on numerous occasions which offer me the 'proof' that matters to me. This fail ...
by joe sz
Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:52 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: Scientology - !
Replies: 41
Views: 10833

sailor boy has hissy fits

If ramtha was really a man, things could be worse! Scientology: The Truth Rundown, Part 1 of 3 in a special report on the Church of Scientology St. Petersburg Times Sunday, June 21, 2009 By Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin, Times Staff Writers Part ONE of THREE The leader of the Church of Scientology ...
by joe sz
Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:55 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Snapping:America?s Epidemic of Sudden Personality Change
Replies: 12
Views: 2111

Snapping first came in @1979. It was one of the few books out with critical updated info on cults at the time. I know it helped me to get a grip on what happened to me in Prophet's cult. A flaw in Snapping and the newer edition [that now includes Ramtha] is the limited and somewhat skewed demographi...
by joe sz
Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:52 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: ?Cults and New Religions? book includes RSE
Replies: 8
Views: 1612

caution yellow light

If you buy this book be aware that it will reflect Melton's view and not mine or Jeff Knight's for example. ...we are not listed in the index. This book looks like a patched together text for new students in religious studies. There will be nothing in the book that the authors might be sued ofr, thu...
by joe sz
Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:23 am
Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
Topic: EVIDENCE
Replies: 8
Views: 2012

litigation re cults

caterpillar Ford Greene was successful with the Molko case but that case also was a setback for expert witnesses. The anit-anticult crowd gathered to counter Dr Margaret Singer's theory of brainwashing and "coercive persuasion" as unscientific and won. She was not allowed to testify and it compromis...
by joe sz
Thu May 28, 2009 3:50 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: JZ competitor from the past
Replies: 9
Views: 2086

oldone Jach Pursell as Lazaris [accent: la-ZAR-is] was managed by his "wife" Peny and her partner. The last I checked ten years ago they all lived in a $30 million complex [Jach by himself] in FL. Lazaris has been far far more successful in the channeling market than ramtha. btw, Lazaris is not an i...
by joe sz
Wed May 27, 2009 6:28 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: wisewoman posted..Liquid Zeolite is an effective Chelation a
Replies: 12
Views: 2043

Zeolite marketers ordered to stop illegal claims. The FDA has ordered Zeo Health Ltd to stop illegal claims for three zeolite-containing mineral products: Destroxin (cancer prevention and treatment), Esdifan (diarrhea) and Zeo (hangover preventive). The warning letter noted that the company's Web si...
by joe sz
Sun May 17, 2009 9:58 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: OH NO! JZ is back on Larry King
Replies: 16
Views: 2284

my wife called me while I was at work to tell me that vanpraaaag, jz and another was on LK. she saw a later broadcast. She said she watched ten minutes but turned it off---waste of her time. She did mention that jz looked 'botox'ed. What ever happened to growing old gracefully? Thank God for the Mot...
by joe sz
Sat May 16, 2009 10:46 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: OH NO! JZ is back on Larry King
Replies: 16
Views: 2284

ratings

LK's producers arrange to have psychics and other New Age curiosities now and then because a certain demographic audience eats this stuff up. Van Praagh has been on before. LK also has had as guests Elizabeth Prophet, Fred "Zen Master Rama" Lenz 2x and a host of other bizarre cult leaders. These fol...
by joe sz
Mon May 11, 2009 3:49 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Evaluating Guidance
Replies: 13
Views: 2351

cayce cayce on the wall

AD You are correct, I have no repect for Edgar Cayce's channelings yet I understand why others feel his "truth is within" illusion is not an illusion but very real. Cayce says: ?For truth is a growing experience in the hearts and the minds of individuals as they apply those tenets of the law in thei...
by joe sz
Mon May 11, 2009 3:35 pm
Forum: News Articles
Topic: legal fine for infiltration of raelians
Replies: 0
Views: 1009

legal fine for infiltration of raelians

Sun Media Corporation and the "Journal de Montr?al" fined $10,000 for invasion of privacy of Raelians MONTREAL, May 11 /CNW Telbec/ - The Court of Quebec found Sun Media and the "Journal de Montr?al" guilty for invasion of privacy of two Raelians, one of which is a priest. Sun Media was ordered to p...
by joe sz
Wed May 06, 2009 6:57 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

AD I follow your logic. That line of argument is obvious and common but it is also a false analogy to compare the myths and miracle stories of a Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, or Jesus to those claimed by modern day mystics and gurus who can submit to real tests, video taping and so on to prove their pow...
by joe sz
Mon May 04, 2009 5:03 pm
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

cat the Bruton book indicates that Baird's grandfather "John" Spalding did live in India where Baird's father may have been born. So it is conceivable that Baird "III" had real ties to India. Bruton states that Grandpop John wrote an unpublished manuscript that Baird later used and edited to concoct...
by joe sz
Sat May 02, 2009 5:41 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: "The Brotherhood" an Australian Documentary
Replies: 1
Views: 896

no, can't recall this one. caterpillar mentioned them to me a bit ago. I would like to see the video. There were many many communal experiments in the sixties and seventies, but most flopped within a few years. In hindsight nearly all of them developed cultlike symptoms. Poor managing skills tend to...
by joe sz
Fri May 01, 2009 7:03 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

This book by David Bruton on Spalding must be read with care as to the author's pov. Although I could easily ferret out what was factual there is an element of the occult and spiritualism in it. The author makes no claim to pursuing clairvoyance or psi but he was apparently a spiritualist who had ma...
by joe sz
Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:15 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

I imagine if the Ramtha myth is correct that Judy will be sitting in a kitchen somewhere with her oxygen bottle when she's 80something, and some guy she keeps calling Ramtha will appear to her with a wheelchair ready to take her away. Spalding was a real oddball it seems. He was 5'6" tall but very f...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:19 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

spalding

PS: The Bruton book offers a good bit of personal insight into Spalding's relationship with his publisher Douglas DeVorss. Bruton and DeVorss interacted personally to settle the Spalding estate. What is of interest is that DeVorss seemed to be manipulating Spalding and nthe legend around him all alo...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:59 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
Replies: 16
Views: 5070

baird spalding as I knew him

Just read a short book, Baird T Spalding As I Knew Him by David Bruton (1954). The author gives us a very friendly but realistic picture of Spalding without buying into his fantasies. The book exposes Spalding as a con-artist who nevertheless did not exploit his devotees--iow, he never started a cul...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:41 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: ..Supernormal powers..
Replies: 3
Views: 1120

nice quote but be careful with using Assagioli as a reference. he was a disiple of and promoted Alice A Bailey channeled material. AAB started an offshoot Great White Brotherhood movement [Arcane School & New Group of World Servers] in early 1920s after joining and teaching at the Theosophical Socie...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Skepticism and concern
Replies: 9
Views: 1652

ex I challenge any of JZ's most "successful" remote view students [or ex-students who still believe they have this power] to take the simple ouija test I proposed above...and they would not even have to use a ouija board 8) :lol: Let a trained stage magician conduct the test agreed upon by both side...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:37 am
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: Skepticism and concern
Replies: 9
Views: 1652

Chris others have good things to say in prior posts about this but keep in mind, as far as science is concerned that kind of singular study of JZ has no meaning if there are no comparative studies using the same tests on many other channelers as well as actors who fake "channel" to see if the brain ...
by joe sz
Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:37 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: list of channels
Replies: 0
Views: 1157

list of channels

An entire procession of cults and obscure religious sects has followed Blavatsky's lead, copying their doctrines from her and from one another while simultaneously denying their true sources and instead attributing their second- and third-hand revelations to further contact with the Hidden Masters ...
by joe sz
Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:30 am
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8217

watcha modrators may wish to start a thread with this legal stuff. If you wish to find legal opinion from a sociological persepective that would tend to "defend" new religious movements or cults, turn to this site below for starters. I met with Prof Richardson once many many years ago and have read ...
by joe sz
Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:07 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8217

us vs ballard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Ballard This case regarding the I AM Activty that started in 1940 set the standard for all subsequent legal cases against "religions" or spiritual movements. Jay is correct that the US courts cannot convict a cult leader of fraud no matter how bizarre th...
by joe sz
Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:32 pm
Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
Topic: unbound
Replies: 55
Views: 8217

conned, tricked, cheated, brainwashed

Unbound and others. This is a good thread for sorting out, iow, "naming" what happened. Here are some thoughts to consider. I have tended to look at the idea of cult influence as a kind of social disease that causes psychological symptoms. We can better treat and recover from a disease when we name ...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:08 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: What is ASTARA?
Replies: 8
Views: 2712

see&e Good article on Krishnamurti. I remember when he was in Los Alamos, NM--I read the news about it in Santa Fe papers at the time. I would not waste a day driving to hear him---found his autodidactic approach to teaching to be a bore. Like he said, "Aristotle will lay down certain principles and...
by joe sz
Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:56 pm
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: What is ASTARA?
Replies: 8
Views: 2712

ruth "walkin"

G2G You are digging into the deeper layers of the new age compost heap 8) Ruth Montgomery was a journalist turned New Age/occult author/psychic based on her belief that she had intimate contact with 'aliens', esp one called Lily [a male entity]. Her alien contacts endorsed Frederick von Meiers [aka ...
by joe sz
Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:41 am
Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
Topic: What is ASTARA?
Replies: 8
Views: 2712

I had a file on Astara many years ago. I looked on wiki to jog my memory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astara,_Inc. I think of it in the category of an 'I AM-lite' new age group, kind of like most small New Thought groups or the Unarius Society. The 22 lessons they offer is in the same category as I ...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:20 am
Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
Replies: 8
Views: 3132

That's interesting stuff, Watcha, about the ACM and mixed views about what happens to people who defect and why they join cults. It's enough to make you crazy as viewpoints are all over the social map from Dick Anthony/J Gordon Melton to Margaret Singer/Michael Langone. "At the end of the day" as "t...
by joe sz
Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:40 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

OOPS, that was Holly Hunter not J Foster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Piano
by joe sz
Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:18 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

no correlation with cults in The Piano. It's like a 19th century era piece about people coming to NZ as I recall.
Harvey Keitel and Jody Foster are in it though.
by joe sz
Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:21 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
Replies: 12
Views: 2000

I recall when the campion sisters were researching for this film interviewing "exit counselors" in America. they retained Rick Ross for content--Harvey Keitel interviewed him and played the part. Also interviewed Tal Brooke for "baba" content based on his experience with Satya Sai Baba. I first saw ...
by joe sz
Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:30 pm
Forum: All Things Books - Debate
Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
Replies: 36
Views: 11055

Oliver vs Ballard's St Germain Fdn etc

A writer just tipped me off to this: The following is case law re copyrights of books purportedly from 'celestial' or metaphysical sources. The lawsuit by Urantia Foundation includes mention of a similar suit brought by the family of the author of Dweller on Two Planets by 'Phylos the Thibetan'. Thi...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:10 pm
Forum: JZK/Ramtha RSE Supporters Debate Forum.
Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
Replies: 197
Views: 26756

So let me explain that: I think when you learn how it works, you come to a junction in your life, and that both ways lead to the same point, only one of them is shorter than the other one. So, you can have the selfish way or the compassionate and love your enviroment way, and have the same things a...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:24 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

yes you can learn to avoid nlp, caterpillar learn to "stop and think" as suggested by Dr Kathleen Taylor Home review by Joe Szimhart November 25, 2004 Oxford University Press, Great Clarendon St., Oxford OX2 6DP, UK ISBN 0192804960 Hardback, 324 pages Ł18.99 (British pounds) Challenging is one word...
by joe sz
Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 am
Forum: News Articles
Topic: passing this along ...
Replies: 9
Views: 1918

traveller in space

Traveller in Space: In Search of Female Identity in Tibetan Buddhism. June Campbell. George Braziller, New York, 1996, 240 pages. Review by Joe Szimhart, 1997 Anyone who has followed the recent histories of Zen and Tibetan Buddhist teachers with Western devotees knows that, too often, these same tea...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:17 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

barack to the beginning of this thread

I finally had time to look over the entire 67 pages article quoted from that began this interesting thread---- http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf Disclaimer: I voted for McCain, do not feel Obama was or is ready to preside over America. Nevert...
by joe sz
Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:00 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

journeythroughramthaland thanks for trying to get this thread back on the rails :-? I dislike getting into personal disputes on these forums but Tree, that last post was harsh, schoolyard 'tit for tat' stuff. It belongs in another venue. maybe y'all can start another thread or keep it off EMF as Dav...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:39 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

maybe "campaign" was the wrong word but this does seem very important to you. I am merely trying to help out. btw I was referring to "member" as in: Government. a. a member of Congress, esp. of the House of Representatives. b. a member of the British Parliament, esp. of the House of Commons. c. any ...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:14 am
Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
Topic: govt. mind control?
Replies: 2
Views: 837

cerulean. I agree, good thread. Here are some questions that may help this along. This is from what I wrote on my website on "Cult 101": http://home.dejazzd.com/jszimhart/cult101.htm Thought control 1. The practice by a totalitarian government as attempting (as by propaganda) to prevent subversive a...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:37 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

skeptic view of nlp

This is a pretty good synopsis of NLP. I hope ity helps that some people are making too much of NLP's powers. It is not NLP that works but the belief in it that makes people more compliant within NLP workshops. http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html Do people benefit from NLP? While I do not doubt that ma...
by joe sz
Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:00 am
Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
Replies: 69
Views: 10777

watcha
I will speak for myself. I'm not on any campaign to expose ICSA
shows what I know
I already wrote to carol....

Joe

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