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<10,000 temporary> how is this number to read? is it printmistake?seems high to me? i definitly saw that the stream got altered with pipes and rearanged driveways during the time i was there.since she doesent care about permits i wonder how many illigal projects she pulled trough.but than sueing nei...

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gosh tree you r cruel.all the happy faces.let me have the brainwash back and be back to sell out my spiritualety and my finances for the group succsess.why comes the word pinnholes to my mind or did they move the targets up down under?

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I own a gorgeous 5 acre hillside of mature forest between Yelm and Rainier, very secluded yet convenient[thats a plus close to the ranch], 478 ft elevation,[what a pitty just 28 feet short of what the ram recomends] well draining soils[for a ug] with a possible siphon septic system [builder and has ...

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how do you have a critical disscusion with a child who believes that ramtha altered history.or belives in twisted waterexperiments.the most bothering aspect is the preperation for the end days.the kids of the poorer parents who still focus on their ugstructure.or even the rich one who grow up in the...

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yes the teachings are lower than many people think.she also steals jockes from comedians like bill meier.the twinky story is homer simpson.he goes to the twinkyfactory after an atomic war.the whole ramtha story has manny paralells to alexander the great and spartacus.

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and all because nobody hanged the new calender up.did the world stop at 2000 because of all the y2k ?maby niburu delivers the new calender.in my youth a pandit read my hand and told me i get about 82-83yers old.plenty of time after 2012.and why dident he tell me that most peoples live ends at 2012?

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how fortunate i was.had only to go 1weekend underground for the end of the world.[during the allignment]ramtha is the best.everything is much more funn in rse than in other cults.jz is allways with her students.she will leave her chateu and joins them in theire underground society.iam shure am i???

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good for you.you r in the honeymoonphase.obviews contradictions happen later.you r obviews jzrs target group.[about 25 with a girlfriend who has a job].i guess you will feel soon the need to make your own dessision to go to the ranch to continue your edjucation.[but remember dr joe is fierd.you have...

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but beside that the teachings stand alone..no they dont.

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yes :so be it and throwing your hand =sieg heil and raise your arm.many of the technics are just softening your brain to plant jzrs neuronets.the teachings go hand in hand with twisted liveadwises [dump yor partner and spend your money in yelm]the teachings are held very crypticly untill you spend m...

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since you sb go for the knowledge:when jz was teaching for houers [between bathroooombreaks and wometing]the knowledge could be summerized in 123 sentences like:put beartraps up for burglars and remove the welcome mat.the army schould show pictures from female fighterpilots to schow this muslims...g...

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When i heard ram for the first time I realised that I had been ignorant and blind to what life and our abilities are about and this brang the power back to me and I had extraordinary OBE,[sorry my friend sounds like part of the brainwaschprogram. 90%of her audience would arque simmilar to defend the...

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I need a room for rent in Yelm area no more than 3 miles fare away to campus RSE.[probably not even a car or perhaps the vibrations?] With all the facilities included. I am single, no pets, no family, only focusing to do discipline. [no job so he probably pais events first than the rent] I been expe...

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i was in a room with manny people i made the decission to get out there.found a exit got in a new peacefull room.and heard:master...name come over here focus on my voice.so i got even a hint for the next exit.but :you master with the red shirt go away from my voice and take the ledder you find at th...

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Ok, if the end of the world as we know is imminent over the next 2 years, then why is JZ so busy building her JZ Rose business and dumping so much money into that inventory? b ecause she wants to mingel with the rich bellveu crowd.i wonder how she is received there.obviewsly she hides her other pers...

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something i heard this week:jzr teaches PARANOID SPIRITUALISEM .all have funn.

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what makes them think raising their hand will work?? the bloodvolume of the raised arm will flow into the lower brain by gravity and will benefit the focus.the bloodcirculationdeficit in your arm will not matter because you need only thoughts to get bananas and bread.no need for an arm doing things....

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no i dont. because he anounced the big things without doing any of it.i dident wanna pick a fight with you.yes you r right never give up hope my zynisem goes through with me.

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http://botw.org/articles/endworld.html this is a link for jzr and her staff.there r at least 2 more possibilitys you have to worry about.and all others remember there is a big difference between possibility and probability.

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wake-up call,watcha?dont you see the cycles.after doom and cloom comes the loving ramtha who pushes his people into enlightment with even compromising his integrety everybody will yell ram go ram or any other in slogan.its a cult most of the ramsters r followers.jzr anounced serious flooding in cost...

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no active recruitment from jzrcult members was the last thing which was different from other cults.concratulations to jzr that she reached the 100%mark of beeing a cultleader.a welcome sideefect will be that many ramsters get a serious realetycheck in comunications with other people.might go a other...

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you r definitly right.i dident asume you wanna interfier in that project.it is good buisness.this people will throw thousends of dollars toward this projects.and thousends will float towards rse.a fool and his money will soon depart.

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"A 4? thickness mono slab with steel reinforcing is standard for a house basement.
standart are also proper steelreinforced footings.3feet below groundlevel or 12 to 20feet below groundsurface make the difference.sorry my english is not good enough to explain this in the proper way.

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4"slab underground?.doesent this guy know that the floor has to hold the push of the dirt toward the wall?most of the wood ug colapsed because people dident take care of this problem.is this intended murder in the days to come?like squirls filling holes with food to dig it out later.only one or...

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well G2Gyou must be wrong.jzr stated on an event that only people with an obsession to control get trouble with prosac.otherwise its cuting edge medicine.because you cant conect to your past therefore your neuronet which created the condition for your illnes in the first place cant uphold the sick c...

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i was on abeginner it was a catch up and follow up for 250[good deal]gs came out and ask the crowd the best week in their live question.because the staff was tired from importent bc events[&ramtha dident show up]it was a very lame event.only56%lifted their arm.gs was very dissatiesfied.so he wor...

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that beats a 1000$seminar.and all understanable in coherent clear sentenses.so jzr it is possible to edjucate people and not keeping them dumm with secret cryptic teachings.

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I told my partner that all financial obligations to the school will not come from my income to this family. Money from my partners salary will have to be used to fund these trips. i had the same arrangement.since some of her money helped to pay the bills this arrangement dident work.i paid all bills...

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i was on the event when geis and his wife were called on stage. a girl wrote a letter to jzr to let her now that the geises had sex with her. [keep in mind that i was a total brainwashed ramster in this time. i didn't know any of the background]jzr pointed out that the girl is not on the event becau...

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well the reserved seating program is the real deal.if somebody is in doubt of the statements made here on emf thats the proof for:its all about money....peorsanal CULT......the amount of dizotiation a follower is abel to.....people with reserved seats should wear a sticker with the coulers all the t...

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hi tiger i know you r right in the fact that 80% of military people buy the new houses in yelm.as i stated before many ludicrus orders from jzr are only to understand that she trys to make political power demonstrations.yes thanks to the military this region is booming and not through growing ramste...

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there goes a very valuable thread into a more or less frutless disscusions over poletics.i dont mind that political orientations get mentioned but to go crazy about it like it happened several times before clearly misses the purpos of this bord.tolerance? yes iam all for it.but the point for me is r...

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how important elections are doesent show in the media its how many people go to elections.its not more than in other democratic countries.i agree with you that the military determins more and more the landscape in yelm.which is good.i like to meet people who dont know jzr.but remember military edjuc...

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Water ERU?s (inside city limits) - $1500.00; (outside city limits) - $2000.00 ... (360) 458-3144 FAX. Yelm, WA 98597. www.ci.yelm.wa.us. CITY OF YELM ...

doesent make much differents the development and the ranch are close by.the water naturaly dont ask were the citylimits are.

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well its only my guess :but waterrights are very important and limited for buildingsites.this development is more than 2 years on its way.jz obviously dosent have her ducks in a row for getting her plans in.so she fears dwindeling value of her properTIES.this is all about money.also all this new peo...

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the question which could stire something is more or less how many teachers are selfproclaimed.to my knowledge even the main teachers are not necesarely edjucated as such.especialy one peorson in the kindergarden is only qualivied because she is a ramthastudent.kids are not subjected to special cruel...

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well tiger were r you? i hope you r well.i thought you would fill us in by now.what happened?some of the moderaters might know you and look after you?

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yes truly were r you all? i miss some of the old board.because there were many littel realy good written posts.thanks for the link david i think it should be available on the index.i for myself :i thought alot about the right current ramsters have in their choiseses.the warning was out there what el...

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they do 20 minutes focus in the morning.the scoolboard will not care because nobody steps on the toes of a religios minorety.

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nascar was just a powergame from jzr to show how much she can move.with her pupet steve kline running for major she clearly lost it.since then probably all "villigers" know that the political force is locked to the countryside buissy digging holes.ye waterrights are limited so if you plan ...

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here my mathproblem:75%-25%=50% the amount of people who leave churchservices in europe acording to greg simmons.now comparing apples with oranges.75000people who visited events at rse.now you have 6000curent students around the world=8%.the rest obviously left rse sevices =events.so rse lost92% com...

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watcha i know so much.but is there neglet involved .does a meeting of several hundred drincing not requires medical staff?did he lay in the corner looking pasedout and was already death?did he get imidiate help?i know that the party continued.

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clint easywood like....is actually clint eastwoods son.took medication which dident combine with alcohol.he also had a drinkingproblem and fell off the wagon due to wineceremonies.then there was a guy he worked for omar the tent man.he showed up with menengities on a event.got brought to a hospital ...

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No, I was not asking for references regarding validity of the school. I was referring to the type of references that joe sz and david post (where possible) -- that's the short version of my reply, I lost my original reply to you on that one. it allways blows me away that people who accept the fairyt...

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