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Germanwings Plane Crash Victim Daniela Ayón RSE Member from Mexico. Daniela Ayon.jpg Daniela Ayón, of Tampico, Tamaulipas, México, was a victim in the Germanwings airplane crash that killed 150 people yesterday in the melancholy majesty of the French Alps. Daniela Ayón’s mother, Gladys Razo wants th...

Excellent advice Ockham, Thanks for helping out... :idea: Best get your computer de-bugged forever. Another suggestion.... If you are running Windows 7, download Windows Defender (its free) and do a complete scan. Related: Windows Defender - Microsoft Windows http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windo...

if i was you i would be contacting JZ Knight haters for support and donations. Hi forever, thank you for sharing. I don't hate Judith, never have. I have seen 'Hate' first hand practiced at RSE with its dehumanizing cult doctrines.... that God almighty 'Ramtha' would teach us to become 'preservable...

Have you considered suing the legal aid for incompetence? Its MUCH worse than plain 'incompetence' forever...please understand... Defending myself in the US and NZ took a HUGE toll in my personal life. I foolishly trusted the NZ legal system....now I realize it takes serious money to go up against ...

After my NZ lawyer Richard Smedley was reinstated by the NZ LSA, This was after Richard agreed to continue representing me and ONLY to close the JZK settlement offer... Richard left me dealing with the Judge and JZK's lawyers ALONE refusing to speak to them and only offered to 'advise me' by phone s...

Will do..thanks...

The Verdict - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Verdict

- Moderator Comment - Hi forever, Sorry to hear this. Its very unlikely the problem is EMF directly ..but I will double check. Most likely your computer has been infected with virus that has hijacked/hacked your internet web browser. This form of virus redirects your page searches to the porn/spam ...

For the record. The letter I received from the NZ Legal Aid Services. See: David McCarthy Legal Aid Debt NZ March 2015 PDF Download http://freepdfhosting.com/bfd5e4dcbd.pdf Just to recap some NZ legal history here... I was forced into the 'JZK settlement' under direct threat from the NZ LSA services...

Media Cover-up for JZ Knight by the Nisqually Valley News
Why are there so many RSE scams going on?
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(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - I NEED URGENT HELP , Please
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Hi Hollander, Welcome to EMF I'm very sorry to hear about your sister. It is often the most idealistic and openhearted people who are deceived and indoctrinated into cults. Oftentimes dragging whole families into a quagmire of broken homes, relationships and divisions. We will do all we can to help....

March 19, 2015 - Steven Wyble NV News - "Chiropractor Who Led Ramtha DNA Study Sanctioned for Fraud". March 4, 2015 - Posted on EMF..... "In November 2012 the Chiropractic Commission charged chiropractor Matthew W. Martinez (CH60191433) with unprofessional conduct.Allegations include...

March 19, 2015 - Steven Wyble NV News - "Chiropractor Who Led Ramtha DNA Study Sanctioned for Fraud". March 4, 2015 - Posted on EMF..... "In November 2012 the Chiropractic Commission charged chiropractor Matthew W. Martinez (CH60191433) with unprofessional conduct.Allegations include...

Media Cover-up for JZ Knight RSE by the Nisqually Valley News - Yelm - WA
The topic can be found here> Why are there so many RSE scams going on?
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JZ Knight: "the videos were maliciously edited and taken out of context" "edited and chopped to make us look like bigots and hateful people" Steven Wyble and his Editor knows this to be a blatant lie yet refuse to report the truth while openly promoting JZ Knight and her RSE cul...

Hi forever,

Is this what you are referring to?
Khan Academy - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/user/khanacademy

Ice Chips Candy has no affiliation with JZ Knight or RSE. Here is the Email response from Beverly Vines > From: Beverly Vines-haines Date: 3/20/2015 11:23:57 AM To: enlightenmefree@gmail.com; Subject: To, whom it may concern regarding Ice Chips I have no idea who started or purports that RSE member...

-------Original Message------- From: EMF Date: 3/20/2015 10:09:47 AM To: Steven Subject: The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Forum • View topic - RSE SCAMS new students beware Dear Steve Wyble, FYI. I recently posted on EMF.... "Steve - Just how low are you and your NV News editors willing to sto...

Welcome to EMF Angelette... Thank you for sharing.... :idea: Just catching up with your posts. Fear and shame dressed up as 'spiritual enlightenment' is the weapon of choice for most religious cult leaders. JZ Knight is no exception and is 'adept' at prying into our deepest darkest secrets and fears...

You can try emailing or writing them to voice your opinion or your RSE scam stories, I'll drop them an Email. At least.... if they are not wanting any association with JZ Knight/ RSE they can make it public. Unfortunately most businesses around Yelm making extra cash from RSE seldom speak out. Case...

Hi Vanilla,

Is this what you are referring to...
a candy product?

https://www.icechipscandy.com/contact-us

David

St. Patrick's Day 2015 Tuesday, March 17.

Its like the RSE Mafia, with the RSE plant Steve Wyblie, in the Nisqually Valley News making an ass of himself, every issue, they need to replace him with a better RSE plant Hi Vanilla, everyone, Interesting you mention Steve Wyble. One of many JZ Knight shills working outside the gates of her RSE ...

(EMF) View topic - RSE SCAMS new students beware
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I no longer want to be known as OUTONALIMB but I'm unsure how to change it, maybe you can tell me David.

All taken care of....

Welcome back > Carol

David

Happy St Patrick's day...

however...

The Real Irish American Story Not Taught in Schools Zinn Education Project
http://zinnedproject.org/2012/03/the-re ... n-schools/

Hi Vanilla Not heard of David Fairley. A quick Google search comes up with Websiteproperties.com and Remote View Daily - Develop Remote View Skills to win Lottery Jackpots https://www.remoteviewdaily.com/ (will ask you to sign up for security system to view, you do not have to) Bizarre to say the le...

- Moderator comment - This post has been split and moved from the topic thread - Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post threads http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2584 _____________________________________ Nor is it a question of "faith". Is or isn't ...

Hi forever, It's in reference to the basis of EMF -of which i am a part-being unaware that we attack and criticize as fraudulent-we actually practice and believe in. Including me I do not accept the > we < in your opinion of yourself. What is it that you believe I am practicing that is fraudulent in...

Joe posted destructive cult activity that doesn't hold a candle to the murders and abuse in bible-based on channeled information from someone claiming to be in contact with an invisible being. Hypocritical? - Moderator Comments - Hi forever, everyone... Here is the Thread topic forever is referring...

Is it not appropriate to combine the 3 separate post threads, Moderator Comment - NO. Not when posts are taking off on different topics and tangents. There are bound to be overlaps and this is often let ride if the topic thread is regained but if they wander too far 'off topic', very likely a moder...

David, Where's your post about the people that threatened your life for criticizing Ramtha? They were dear friends of yours-not passed away? Here ya go… (EMF) View topic - JZK's Rules of Murder and Fear: South Thurston Journal I recall a personal and frightening incident in Yelm when I discovered a...

- Moderator Comment-
forever
Thank you for clarifying your questions and statement....

Where's your post about the people that threatened your life for criticizing Ramtha? They were dear friends of yours-not passed away? This happened around 2004. I don't have a thread about that situation....he was drunk and came to my home. I did posted briefly what occurred. I will try and find it...

Here ya go....

How do I copy a web page link?
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000867.htm

The Sneetches and Other Stories - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sneetc ... er_Stories

Sneetches - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPhOZzsi_6Q

its often a sad fact that those that are drawn to cults have also been severely abused in their lives and are looking for answers and healing. Cult leaders know this well how to 'Trojan Horse into a life" and target "The Victim Market" for fresh blood... :sad: "The boiling frog s...

Thank you forever, forever . People DO have a choice. In the context of religious cult indoctrinations .... So you don't think its possible a person can be brainwashed to have their freewill (choice) removed? IE: That an individual is not freely capable of exercising free will (choice) to leave a cu...

David, domestic violence IS same as RSE. It is. Mind control. Beaten down. Head game. So you would also believe.. "people in a domestic violence situations have a choice. If not everyone that's posting on a Domestic violence help forum would still be there? They DO have a choice" regardin...

But it has to come from within a profession. Why wait? What when the 'professions' have been subverted by greed and corruption? or a society is 'failing'? Destructive Cuts are a symptom of a much greater disease in society. "“I noticed that these jihadists have little to do with the local cult...

I am asking you David, what do you think professionals can do?

Educate themselves and find the moral backbone to speak out publically against the likes of JZ Knight in their own neighbourhoods

David, i uninstalled abi. That's when messages began double tripping and all i got was blanks. The back door? It's a manual. I am not sure how i got to it. It's a URL? -Moderator comment - I recommend you do a complete anti-virus-spyware sweep on your computer by a professional David Related; What ...

You think that RSE is different? People DO know. What can they do? Forever, Yes.. I do believe religious cults are 'different' and RSE especially so. 'People' do not 'know' nor understand the methods of cults (such as RSE) nor their recruitment methods and abuses, Nor the needs and struggles of cul...

I am through a back door that if i can find....something to think about.

- Moderator comment -
This is the very first time I have heard of this problem.
What is the 'backdoor method' that is working for you?
Have you totally cleaned out the virus from your computer?

Despite my unpopular position the adult customers of RSE DO have a choice. Hi forever, I am sure your opinion is shared by many.... I view RSE as a virus of the mind. For some it has proved deadly..much the same as the HIV virus. Yes this is 'CHOICE' but bounded and gagged through the RSE deception...

The children do not have a choice. I wasn't referring to children. The adults do have a choice. Thank you for clarifying :idea: On the victimization of children? What about children in a household of smokers? Everyone knows the health hazard. Helpless babies breathing smoke? Is the answer to pass a...

I couldn't get to the post because i had to circumvent system. Wearing my Moderator Hat again :-) In the interest of making sure EMF is operating correctly and that our other posters do not have the same problems.... Can you explain what you had to circumnavigate? is this a problem on your computer...

Hi forever, Thank you for posting.... :idea: David, professionals DO care!! forever, my EMF moderator hat ... It would be more helpful when posting a response to any thread not start a new thread....simply post a reply to that thread.. :idea: If readers are confused as to what forever is referring t...

Hi forever,

I know it can be VERY frustrating at time dealing with computer viruses and bugs.
I hope you get it sorted soon and are free to post again from your home computer and IP...
You are very much valued on EMF.

David

Hi everyone, I received an email today from someone upset, confused and convinced I have blocked their IP from accessing or posting on EMF. I have tried to reassure them this is not so, and most likely their computer has a Trojan virus that has hijacked their search engine. If an IP is blocked or a ...

The Freedom Foundation's Glen Morgan on being sued by JZ Knight
Originally aired: Monday, May 19, 2014
Category: News

The Freedom Foundation's Glen Morgan on being sued by JZ Knight...or maybe it's Ramtha
http://kiroradio.com/listen/9971900/

Thanks Joe :idea: You know firsthand the pitfalls and risks it takes exposing cults and helping survivors regain their lives and sanity. As you also know from experience getting sued by a cult is no picnic and finding a balance of protecting your family and exposing a cult is a hard call at times. I...

I'm a big fan of Peter Gabriel, Thought I would share a few of his performances I find inspiring.. Peter sings with the New Blood Orchestra - Live in London I hope you enjoy.. David Peter Gabriel HD - "Don't Give Up" - New Blood Orchestra - Live in London - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/...

Just finished watching the first series back to back on Netflix.. I just wish doomsday cult survivors were as 'unbreakable' as Kimmy Schmidt... Great stuff.. its good to see humor drawn from the mindless doomsday cult world... I'm so temped to call RSE follower's 'Mole People'...see the series if yo...

Gloriavale religious commune: 'No one is here against their will' NZ Herald News Thursday Mar 12, 2015 Gloriavale Christian Community has responded to accusations by a family that walked out at the weekend claiming they were living in a "false system", by saying that "no one is here ...

Neville Cooper a religious cult leader / sexual predator, founder of the 'Cooperite religious sect NZ' had previously been charged with sexual abuse in 1994 and sentenced to five years but only spent 11 months in jail. Shutdown in Australia now setup shop in NZ. There is a local cult near where I li...

Physicians and other professions ignoring the Cult Issue.. Something else that was 'revealing' came up with a recent examination and debunking by a professional biologist regarding JZK's DNA claims. This is something I have personally battled to understand since realizing JZK-R was a sociopath and ...

Here is a review of the JZ Knight DNA test presented to a professional with a degree in bioscience. This person wishes to remain anonymous. Thank you V & A :idea: David In reply to your DNA question, the information provided is inadequate to make any conclusions. First, the lab results are not l...

Hi Ockham, I think I would tend to downplay any covet connection between RSE and the US federal government as some sort of secret mind control experiment. I think its plausible... but a waste of time trying to prove. I've researched enough information to believe Governments have explored/experimente...

Hi forever, everyone... We have touched upon this murky subject elseware on EMF.... Perhaps the' truth' of R$E is hidden within the bizarre… a perfect no-go-zone hidden in plain sight! :idea: I suspect the “unexplainable” experiences at RSE (Such as Remote View Success and Fail Rates) were given ove...

Thank you journeythroughramthaland, Joe, Ockham, forever, Interesting thread… Hey JTRL..good to hear from you... :idea: forever.. Davids group laid the ground work for group i was in. He was part of implementing field, i wasn't. It was already established. Hi forever, everyone.. This "ground wo...

Thank you WP :idea: New Age channelers out of tune, linguistics prof says The Pittsberg Press Oct 2 1989 By Mary Pat Flaherty Some New Age channelers' messages are being transmitted with a little too much static to convince linguist Sarah Thomason of their authenticity. The University of Pittsburgh ...

(EMF) View topic -
an honest question requesting a response from all who read.
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David, you get the emails DNA?

yes..and I replied...

Here ya go..
Facebook -Timeline Photos - Ramtha's School of Enlightenment
https://www.facebook.com/RamthasSchool?fref=photo

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Perhaps this test will show up a genetic cause for sociopathy.. :idea: geneticists have found some good leads on genes linked to sociopathy. They’ve done this by comparing DNA sequences from people who are thought to be sociopaths with DNA from individuals who are thought to be non-sociopaths David ...

Oh yes publicity stunt with kickbacks from Dr. Mat? follow the money .... Just how much does it cost for a Dr. Mat's DNA test? More on DNA testing.. Thank you WP :idea: Errors (University of Texas) When DNA typing was a new technology, its introduction to the courts in the U.S. was hotly contested b...

More on Chimeric Genes Thank you WP :idea: Oct 2013 Formation of Chimeric Genes by Copy-Number Variation as a Mutational Mechanism in Schizophrenia (The American Society of Human Genetics) These results suggest that the formation of chimeric genes is a mechanism by which CNVs contribute to schizophr...

David's wife is a constant reminder to him :!: What wife? she divorced me... Just kidding....Bad Joke... ;-) I agree with Joe... there are more important things than EMF and RSE is not going to go away any time soon no matter how much you do... take a break..... forever... Just wish I could take yo...

What's more....?? I suspect “Crystal Blue Persuasion” was used as cocaine reference for "Ramtha's" inner circle.... :idea: David Related: (EMF) Online Forum • View topic - J.Z. Knight says she is "having a good time" http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1907&...

"We could've caught the "name change" wave and have our driver's licenses now reading "Crystal Blue Persuasion" or "Seabiscuit"" (EMF) Online Forum • View topic - It Could've Been Worse... http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=372 What's ...

Hi forever.

ironically this is one of the songs JZK played constantly at RSE...
and typical of how something beautiful and innocent is corrupted at R$E.

David

Tommy James & The Shondells - Crystal Blue Persuasion - 1969 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDl8ZPm3GrU

From my experience....
The insanity of the world is but a tiny fraction of its beauty and miracle of life....

David

Thank you forever...
Nothing like telling it like it is...

During a recent RSE event JZ Knight claimed her DNA is different from "Ramtha's" DNA. RSE supporters should also understand One person can have 2 sets of DNA Its called ( a chimera ) A person who has more than one set of DNA is a chimera, and the condition is called chimerism. The word com...

Very interesting post...Thank you forever, Joe... Good points...extra rum rations for you me matey... ;-) I think your "miracle" is whatever you want it to be as a private matter. yes absolutely Joe, 'but' in the context of the thread question, perhaps I misunderstood that forever was not ...

One day i called city hall to ask about my property. "The problem was i couldn't get a straight answer on if it could be divided." Hi forever, From experience dealing with City hall by phone is unreliable at best. Could it be that person who gifted you the property may not have not known ...

Hi Joe, While living in Yelm I met a bonafide science and natural history teacher. He told me he quit the phoenix rising school after several months after being told he had to teach "Ramtha's" version of science to the children. I suspect for those qualified teachers who are not RSE indoct...

So what created the miracles that i automatically attributed to RSE?

Hi forever,
I know you posted on a previous thread about this.
Can you post/describe here in detail what you believed those miracles were that you attribute to "Ramtha" and RSE?

I "tested" Ramtha. If he was who and what he said then surely telepathy shouldn't be a problem. Ramtha was on stage and i was several isles back and to the side. In my mind i was saying, "if you are what you say you are look at me, smile and wave". I watched him scan the audienc...

but it appears the same tactics used by Hitler are being used...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - Common Ground July 1995 Vol.X No 1. Part 1 & 2
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One remaining question is the drawing power that grips people in the gut and has em by the heart? Turns their life upside down and them inside out. Any ideas?

Sure...how about energy vampires?

What do you know about Virginia Coverdale saying there was a contract murder JZ hired? I read it online. I cannot post everything I know about Virginia's accusation but based on what we both know it certainly looked liked Joe Sumrall's horrific murder did have a direct RSE connection. From what I u...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - Guess I'm Just Too Ignorant And Obtuse To Enlighten
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Excellent post Ockham

Thank you..........

David

For the most part the mystery of teachings doing 180 is clear. Selling God has made a lot of people rich...and poor. :)

And DEAD

"Ramtha" didn't know. Because there was no Ramtha there to know. Hi forever... "Ramtha" most likely didn't even know your name 'unless your were targeted grooming'. That's why everyone is called 'Master' at RSE, except for the anointed ones :roll: For many of us.... It takes a p...

Do you think Evans knows JZ is fraud? Perhaps so... but is there more to lose by facing the truth? All those wasted years, the betrayals, the abuse.... so many burnt lives and bridges........................... Where to turn? Who to turn to? Will the truth set me free? Just to painful and horrific ...

Did you see what i saw in the ugly attack on Evans? Oh Yes.. Hence... JZK lawsuits to stop the public finding out what she is all about. I also suspect JZFright was furious at Evans for not buying R$E,Inc Perhaps it was her Jewish financial adviser that saw through JZK's con game? But hey...best be...

What explanation were you given for having a wine ceremony? How was it legitimized? The Ramtha booze binges started just after I got out.....Circa 1996? There was a growing dissatisfaction with the Omega scam and questions were being asked... I also suspect 'Red Wine' was introduced to replace the ...

Thanks Joe :idea: Scientology’s Chilling Effect FEB. 24, 2015 Joe Nocera When I was at Fortune magazine in the 1990s, one of my colleagues was a reporter named Richard Behar. He had a special lock on his door, and he wouldn’t even let the janitor in to empty his wastebasket. He used a secret phone, ...

Was the brain teaching there when you first went ? Fill me in please. Thanks Hi forever , No.. not that I remember... I remember drawing pictures of the brain and colouring in with wax crayons, very simple childish stuff. Apparently we needed to 'open up the brain' with that C & E huffing and p...

I have some sympathy for Joe having been groomed and polished by JZRamtha at RSE. BUT... so far he sold out a golden opportunity to walk away from RSE and warn others of its 'dark side' abuses and deceptions, surely by now he's seen enough of JZRamtha to realize she is a dangerous and deceptive frau...

(EMF) View topic - How can A woman With No education Have Put RSE In Motion?
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Rooster ... We have a heart!!! It is why we can think all day and never understand heartless, selfish, takers. So very true. And those heartless ones who impersonated spiritual leader's are the lowest of the low... I would even go so far as to call them subhuman > 'a lower order of being than the h...

I don't mean to sound stupid but can you elaborate please. You mean JZ is a socially engineered .....? Ramtha Project? Hi forever, everyone, Not a stupid question at all :idea: I wish I had a straightforward and definitive answer. I will do my best to share (my opinion) without entering a bottomles...

Yes..I agree. This is the nature of the RSE indoctrinations (brainwashing). They are designed to sabotage the mind from the natural path of rational thinking. I suspect the 'God high' we felt at times was in fact a carefree lunacy effect of our brain cells dying. And one hell of a journey to unlock ...

Hi forever,

Thank you for clarifying your question.

i was questioning is if SHE actually believes in Ramtha?

The short answer (In my opinion) NO
JZ Knight and Ramtha are both fictional characters created by a crossdressing actor Judith Darleen Hampton
who likes to play God in drag....

David

This article gives some good information and advice. Understanding How Sociopaths Think: Why It is Good to Ask Why! by HealingJourney Published on 09-17-2013 So often during this recovery process, I have been told by others—those who have been targeted by sociopaths and those who have not—that it do...

The point is what does she actually believe? Perhaps... Fluffy bunnies, Teddies and a New Crocodile Handbag so she can sleep at night... :roll: Personally.... I'm not much interested in what JZ Fright thinks anymore than what a crocodile thinks... I'm sure that if JZK listens carefully she can hear...

Yes.. an essential step in healing from RSE is the reclaiming of our humanity and compassion.
Recommended viewing > (EMF) View topic - Children Full of Life
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2527

Gandhi-Humanity-Quote.jpg

After a Suicide Attempt: What Now? It is very important that family and friends know what to do and what to be alert for after someone they care about has had a suicide attempt. It is a very scary time for both the person and those who care for the person. I receive a lot of calls from people asking...

Okay, and they were going to lodge the horse where? In their UG with them?

Well actually forever, a very wealthy RSE member did just that.. built a UG for her horse

Was the bomb threat verified? Any evidence other than her saying it? Nope. I now suspect the bomb threat was staged by JZK.. the same as the assassination attempt where she alleged a bullet bounced off her lawnmower Glen Cunningham told me it would have been impossible for the shot to have been mad...

If my memory serves me correct..Diane Munzo-Smith was part owner of the Windwords 'Ramtha' Bookstore in Rainier with Beverly Dietrick? That was until JZK discovered she could make extra $$$ by opening her own bookstore in Yelm and banned the Windwords bookstore from selling RSE books... They shut do...

Be patient please. I am learning how to operate technology

Sure..no worries..
just mark a post as a practice and I will remove it the next day...

To use the quote tab...highlight the text first then click on the quote tab above the post..

any questions? don't hesitate to ask...

David

Hi forever, Antone remember the book? What book are you referring too? If you highlight the text you wish to quote then click on the quote tab just above your post Your text will then show as a quote :idea: Thanks... David Related: Please remember to use the quote box feature or italics or "quo...

well done forever ..
I thought JZK bought up all the copies...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - Romero & Klein Withheld Critical Evidence in JZK NZ Lawsuit
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Romero & Klein Withheld Critical Evidence in JZK Lawsuit Sandra Romero and Adviser Steve Klein Withheld Critical Evidence in JZ Knight Lawsuit Watchdog Wire – Northwest - Third in Series on RSE International July 4, 2014 by Melissa Genson Democratic Thurston County Commissioner Sandra Romero wit...

JZK's Rules of Hate, Fraud....Salma and Linda By Melissa Genson : South Thurston Journal November 10, 2013 “F--k God’s chosen people! I think they have earned enough cash to have paid their way out of the g-ddamned gas chambers by now.” - JZ Knight An unmarked DVD had been left for my husband Steve...

JZK's Rules of Rape, Hate, Perjury, and Fraud By Melissa Genson November 10, 2013. JZ Knight’s ex-followers have told me that they were afraid to report a crime while at RSE because they thought it might violate their secrecy oath. They were afraid of getting sued by Knight. Even if they were the c...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - JZ Knight's Rules of Murder, Hate, and Fear
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JZ Knight's Rules of Murder, Hate, and Fear By Melissa Genson South Thurston Journal November 11, 2013 Cop Killers and JZ Knight followers Phillipe Neniere and Agnis Jardel “How Could Murder Be Wrong?” – JZ Knight In 1988, cult leader JZ Knight asked ABC’s Judd Rose on 20/20, “How could murder be w...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - Steve Klein: Adviser to Romero and JZ Knight Directs Fraud
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WA: Adviser to Romero and JZ Knight Directs Fraud, Refuses to Prove Credentials steve klein bto bio Second in series on RSE International June 30, 2014 by Melissa Genson inShare1 An adviser to both Yelm-based Democratic Party mega-donor JZ Knight and Democratic Thurston County Commissioner Sandra R...

Ramtha is also the name of a town in Jordan near the border with Syria. Ramtha is most noted for being terminus for routes of cigarette and booze smuggling. Thanks for that Ockham :idea: Pulled from a previous EMF thread...> Ramtha? Registered Trademark Caterpillar. I was under the impression from ...

Hi forever, EMF has a search engine you may find helpful. Just a quick EMF search of Vera Stanley Alder brings up several topic threads and many posts > :idea: such as.... (EMF) Online Forum • View topic - Vera Stanley Alder, author http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=743 (EMF)...

David, is it possible to have open a category for accomplishments and happiness for people to post on? Hi forever, Sure...we have a thread topic... :D Breaking the Cult Spell - To Inspire and Heal And now for something completely beautiful… EMF is as much about recovery and healing from the RSE cul...

Our dog Tessa using mind control....

Tessa Mind Control.JPG

Hi forever,

I understand.. its good you are asking the really difficult questions,
and more importantly.... looking deeply for answers.

You are much appreciated....

David

Hi forever, everyone, forever... Ramtha, real or imagined represented what people wanted to believe in and about them self. If not there would be no attraction. another way to look at this question " Maybe we created Ramtha?". We as Human beings at birth, humanity, are naturally endowed wi...

Hi Rooster, Here ya go.... a little EMF digging.. Penny Torres Ramtha clone Mafu JZ Knight RSE - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhf-xtDc4IU EMF Bravenet.com Forum > Penny Torres / Mafu ??? http://pub43.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3633497066&frmid=54&msgid=643125&c...

Hi freemysoul,

I couldn't agree more.
I forwarded your post directly to Missy.

David

An EMF member asked me recently.... what was the result of JZK, Inc. suing Thurston County by seeking an injunction to stop the release of Brian's letter to the county? JZ Knight Lost. JZ Knight / JZK, Inc.’s attempt to block the release of a letter by Dr. Brian Keay about RSE failed. The letter con...

(EMF) Online Forum • View topic - NV News report: First ex-RSE members meeting 2006
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local News report about our first ex-RSE members meeting -September 2006. to speak out in public against JZ Knight and her RSE cult. Joe Szimhart and Carroll Cobbs were our guest speakers. :idea: David Gathering draws former, current Ramtha students. Cindy Teixeira Staff reporter September 2006 The ...

JZK RSE Copyright to hide illegal acts & hate by Melissa Genson
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hi forever,

can you check your PM box?

David

If you have lost an EMF post your were writing and it disappeared because your connection timed out... This can be extremely frustrating :evil: The solution ....write your post in Microsoft Word then copy'n paste to EMF. Here is a free word processor if you don't have Word > http://www.abiword.org/ ...

Real or fake? We like to think that mind control requires a Hollywood style "Jason Bourne" psyop.... it could be a lot easier than that

Derren Brown - The Heist - YouTube
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Dammit Frank....Keep it together on EMF

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Melissa Genson FB letter to JZ Knight. Melissa Genson. Today, I honor the memory of Constable Jacob Boleme, who was assassinated at point blank range--in the line of duty--by two of JZ Knight's wealthy followers in South Africa, four years ago this month. They did it for JZ. As I do every day, I pra...

MindState : It wouldn't matter to me if I was banned or not. It would have no effect on me. It's your call Then consider yourself banned from posting on EMF. David Related: EMF View topic - I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing. http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=18065#p180...

I'm just saying in no uncertain terms that 'you don't even know what you want as a 'teacher'. But I don't mind if you hate me. Hi MindScape, Are you drunk???? Who/what are you referring to? What you are posting here is a classic form of forum baiting . This is very destructive to EMF and those seek...

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Thank you Missy,

Are your replying 'in part' to MindState's post? -

MindState. I don't believe it is 'wrong' what she is doing.

I moved to our JZK/RSE supporters forum.
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David

right and wrong?

Interesting TED talk by Sam Harris
"Questions of good and evil, right and wrong are commonly thought unanswerable by science.

Sam Harris: Science can answer moral questions | Talk Video | TED.com
http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_sci ... at_s_right

Listen, i am regrouping and trying to work through information. Hi forever, "Ramboozeled! I like that :lol: Enlighten Me Free was created by kindred spirits to freely help everyone heal, protect and find a path home from the soul- trap that is RSE. It takes courage, patience and self-compassio...

Hi MindState, everyone..... MindState, I appreciate your support and the very interesting thread you started on EMF. However… I agree with freemysoul's post and concerns. Can you please explain/clarify the meaning of your closing statements :?: > Personally, I accepted 'the keys to heavon' when the ...

Hi forever,

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Hi forever

Please visit our EMF thread here >
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Hi forever, I don't think I've posted my RSE red flag list on EMF before... :idea: OK..someone pass me the microphone.... :D Although its often the first question asked by RSE survivors / reporters. One major red flag was the systematic destruction of our compassion towards others! under the clever ...

How do we reconcile that statement in light of what happened to ‘Fiona Regan’? A lovely girl and former RSE student who died in a car wreck and fight a good fight applying ‘the great work’ in her life all the way up unto her death Regarding the suicide of Fiona Regan. EMF View topic - RSE student F...

Thank you MindState
No worries about my name...
I can fix it

Got it..
Thank you forever.
To PM an EMF member> click on the PM tab just below their post.
All PM's are private between the recipients.
Not even I have access to the EMF PM exchanges of our members
and that's the way it should be...

David

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Hi MindState, I appreciate your candid and honest posts and willingness to understand > WTF RSE < and to help shine a Light into the dark abyss of RSE. It takes enormous courage and 'critical thinking to do so... I remember as a wee boy being too frightened to look under my bed at night. less the mo...

I'm confused, I am pretty sure I posted this in the "general chit-chat' topic. The reason why? It does not belong to RSE. It is not an RSE TM discipline. It is free-game topic for chit chat. Hi MindState, Thank you for clarifying. Yes.... you did post your subject 'The Wonderful Story of Henry...

where Ramtha taught things that were previously expressed by students before he taught it Hi MindState, Much of what you describe was achieved by JZK using RSE shills bugging and or, eavesdropping certain areas at RSE. For example... The smoking ring was a prime target for 'data gathering'. > by us...

Hi forever,

I don't think this has been mentioned before on EMF.
The 'Great Oracle at Google' does not speak of this Avalon Project Forum >

Can you explain a little of what you understand?

Thanks.....

David

Hi Mindstate, The RSE Henry Sugar story came after my time in RSE. a quick Google search reveals.... a fictional/autobiographical book written by Roald Dahl. I will research more...till then... Can anyone explain to me something of why JZ-R used Roald Dahl's work? it looks to me that JZ-R had weaved...

Hi forever, Welcome to EMF, Thank you for your posts. The Avalon Project? I will check it out..But where and how? OK... *cue sinister music* RSE = Religious Social Engineering :roll: It really wouldn't surprise me if JZK/RSE was part of some crazy covert black ops ESP experiment by the US Government...

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JZK vs Glen Morgan The Freedom Foundation This just the first 'Broadside' delivered by Glen Morgan and the Freedom Foundation.... THANK YOU Melissa Genson and Glen Morgan, From all of us at EMF :-) Melissa Genson, Something JZ Knight should have learned after I beat her in court last year--she CANNO...

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Hi forever, Alex Collier was a guest speaker at RSE in 1996. A typical hoaxer to help JZK-R stoke up paranoia regarding Alien/Government conspiracies. Another hoaxer was Linda Moulton Howe. Both made a nice turnover peddling their books at R$E. Copper Anyone? :roll: a quick Google search finds... Al...

Hi forever,
Welcome to EMF

The subject has come up on EMF before
Here is the link...
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Thank you Ockham, Ive moved your post to its own topic thread. I am hoping it is just sloppy journalistic shorthand My experience dealing with the local Thurston County newspapers...: NV News, The Olympian, The News Tribune, They have proved themselves to be 'protectors' of JZ Knight. They often ref...

Thank you MindState,

Perhaps the most disturbing and sad fallout's about RSE..
It traps and feeds off so many beautiful souls that are drawn to RSE, reducing their lives to exist in JZK's fear and guilt swamp.
God help families that move to Yelm

Recently someone asked me... is it true that the diamond heiress signed your settlement? Yes... sadly this is true. This prompted me to write an open letter to Rebecca. Emended - Jan 25 2023 Dear Rebecca, For many years you were a dedicated student at RSE and a key financial supporter. So it came as...

I have also worked in much smaller facilities where the fire alarm panel was considerably less advanced. There was no on site plant manager and no logging tape, only a key, "hidden," on top of the control panel and any number of personnel could have had the opportunity to put the system i...

Thank you Missy, Nothing like "telling it like it is.... :idea: Mike Wright "I understand your lack of knowledge of Fire Codes and Building Codes to which RSE has been in compliance all along" What I understand Mike.... you are a liar and willing accomplice to a massive cover-up of il...

Hi sera, Welcome to EMF. Thank you joe, seriously and MindState. the one thing I wish RSE would do is give a more real accounting of all the 'winners' sera....your concerns and questions are forthright and need addressing directly if I may. Lets start with > Shills at RSE < :idea: JZK-R's 'masterful...

Hi MindState, Welcome to EMF. I'm sure I speak for most EMF members that so long as you are not here to promote JZK-R/RSE or post 'Ramtha' quotes and willing to respectfully debate the issues "The Good, the Ugly, and the Bad" so sure .... speak your piece.... :idea: Can you share something...

Published on Aug 26, 2014 national geographic,national geographic 2014,national geographic documentary,documentary,documentary 2014,documentaries,documentaries 2014,BBC documentary,di. A documentary about the different level of narsissism, from egomaniac to sociopath and psychopathic extremes. A mu...

The frontpage of the upcoming Charlie Hebdo issue with a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed
holding up a 'Je suis Charlie' sign under the words 'Tout est pardonne' ('All is forgiven'). https://qz.com/325810/charlie-hebdos-ne ... -mohammed/

Hi Ockham,

Yes...
Bonnie was a resident of Thurston County.
A longtime and dedicated member of RSE who moved to Yelm from the East Coast

Hi Seriously,
No rumors of a JZK/RSE move to Chicago either...

The recent death of RSE member Bonnie Birger.
Ruled as a suicide by overdose.
Another RSE tragedy that need not have happened.
My deepest condolences to her family and community.

David

Thank you Rooster, yours was a beautiful post to begin the new year. There is so much beauty in the world to discover. Yes... life is fraught with challenges (such as escaping the clutches of a sociopath) :shock: HumanKind is an amazing and essential part of creation.... and to believe that 'life is...

Kat Schurmann: A little girl's remarkable adventure ADAM DUDDING Robert Lockett was a Kiwi petrochemical engineer. His wife Jeanne was a native Amazonian he'd met in Brazil. They sailed a yacht from the United Kingdom to New Zealand so Robert could show Jeanne his country. When they arrived, they d...

yep we were "gassed" at R$E...
Once understood....and one breaths fresh air again, then the really challenging questions start...
How the hell did I mistake the smell of a Rat for a Rose

Chronic Loneliness is deadly... Healing the mind is as important as healing the body. Practicing “emotional hygiene”.... Great talk by psychologist Guy Winch :idea: When you’re in emotional pain treat yourself with compassion How to practice emotional hygiene | Guy Winch | TEDxLinnaeusUniversity - Y...

Ramtha: "I am the wind."

Methinks the only wind Ramtha has ever created is through JZ Knights mouth and backside....

Recent Elections in Thurston County Shock the Political Establishment Who have also been 'informed enough' to burst JZ Knight's bubble of a political career in Thurston County... :roll: The Thurston County commissioners have well-deserved reputation for egregious incompetence and legendary malfeasa...

Letters to the Editor | The Olympian The Olympian’s reporting on JZ Knight/ Ramtha’s complaints against the Freedom Foundation was missing critical elements to this story. The Freedom Foundation and I are under attack by this 35,000 year old warrior because I committed the sin of exposing the truth ...

The Pale Blue Dot - THE SAGAN SERIES - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=923jxZY2NPI#t=215

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Hi Elizabeth, everyone.... Finally found an afternoon to explore your post. I've yet to fully study THE ORIGINS OF ATTACHMENT THEORY: by JOHN BOWLBY AND MARY AINSWORTH INGE BRETHERTON PDF Download Here: http://www.psychology.sunysb.edu/attachment/online/inge_origins.pdf I will share this much.... Th...

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A fascinating subject > Imaginary Relationships < Understanding the psychological landscape of cults and its leaders is fundamental in helping us navigate through a minefield of RSE programming and abuses. The landscape is dangerous territory and uncharted for most of us. Very few have the courage t...

Predator Prey. Highly recommended. An excellent website for former customers/members of R$E and for those wishing to understand the methods cult leaders uses to entice and trap their prey. Cults are what sociopaths setup for 'self aggrandizement' and to make a fortune using deceit, abuse and psychol...

Whistleblowers speak out because they feel they have to, often at great personal cost. But years later, do they think it was worth it? Blowing it: whistleblowers 10 years on Society The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/22/there-were-hundreds-of-us-crying-out-for-help-afterlife-o...

Tax-exempt status of Olympia-based think tank under challenge by channeler JZ Knight The Olympian By Brad Shannon The tax-exempt status of the Freedom Foundation, a conservative think tank, has been called into question by lawyers for Yelm-based spirit channeler JZ Knight. Knight, who has a long-ru...

Hi sequitur, Thanks for posting....The Video link seems to be down. You prompted me to lookup pluralistic ignorance This is rife at RSE IE Bystander apathy <) this helps explain how we as RSE members became so apathetic JZK's abuse and control. Some info pulled from the site > Are you sick of the pe...

The true cost of Cocaine use = The murder of children Mexico was confronted with one of the grisliest massacres in years of drug violence after gang suspects confessed to slaughtering 43 missing students and dumping their charred remains in a river. Mexico shocked by suspected students massacre http...

Cult Leader Joins Public Sector Unions in Political Alliance November 4, 2014 Glen Morgan Grassroots Director - The Freedom Foundation Why do public sector unions and a cult leader need to join forces? Apparently, they have many things in common. How long will this alliance last? Politics can make ...

Dear RSE supporters, It's not hard to turn someone into a bully. JZ Knight is a classic example by using the ‘spiritual advancement / ‘no pain no gain’ doctrines to excuse violent, verbal and racist abuses at RSE. Dozens of psychological experiments have shown that in certain conditions well intende...

The British Government considered using psychopaths to help restore order in the aftermath of a nuclear attack on Britain . Planning the war game, one civil servant tried to imagine how law and order would be maintained. Jane Hogg, a scientific officer in the Home Office, envisaged the police would...

The British businessman whose wartime actions saved hundreds of children from the Nazis has been honored with the Czech Republic's highest award. Nicholas Winton.jpg Nicholas Winton honored by Czechs for saving children from Nazis Sir Nicholas said he was "delighted" so many of the childre...

Thanks for posting this Joe :idea: Rathbun told the St. Petersburg Times of Florida that top management physically abused colleagues to demonstrate loyalty to Miscavige Verbal and physical abuse goes on at RSE.JZ-R slapping and hitting hardcore members is viewed as a kind of 'badge of honor' to be s...

Hi Lost in Space, Thanks for clarifying. :idea: Also, this segment of the forum is supposedly about groups 'other than RSE/JZ Knight', is that not so? Yes.. but not to negate the connection to RSE or other destructive cults, their methods, results.. and famous devotees. So far this is proving to be ...

Thank you Joe... More food for thought :idea: Hi Lost in Space, I agree with your above post.....: That is not rocket science either. It seems you are suggesting I am anti -alternative health care :-? Can you point out in my posts where I have suggested such a thing? and I will set the record straig...

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