The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

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The link is no good. Could you cut and paste. It says I have to sign up. You would think Ramtha would arise again, and lead his people into battle. Wasnt he a warrior? A conqueror or India? There was a street to him in Ancient Egypt? Why would he not lead his people to battle when the days to come c...

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I wonder why she is not selling this stuff to "masters". Unless she realizes that they have no more money left- her students in the school. That speaks volumes as to her disciplines for wealth dont work. Placing imaginary dollar signs in imaginary grids in the sky every morning at 630 in t...

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fREEMYSOUL:

Did after 8 years of doing c&e every day ever manifest anything that was promised to you, you would have? Did you become wealthy or make things appear or cure cancer?

Thats a long long time

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Can someone explain this in laymen terms?

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Hi Virginia. How are you doing after your post? Dont feel like you are a scandalized as an "other woman" .. or like delilah or Jezebel whatever...This negative opinion of you, was from a woman, JZ, who cheated on her husband with a homosexual, confused cowboy, she tried to turn while she w...

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About a month ago I heard this. I confirmed it with few others. This new discipline, is a flashlight is on stage on a chair and everyone stares at it, and they turn it on. They focus on it, for an hour or so, and try to turn it on with their minds..This flashlight has no batteries. People said they ...

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I have heard Ramtha say "not to trust me" about himself --and how he will lie to you to get you to change. Some students told me they dont trust their god Ramtha. So I guess when Days to come come, Ramtha will be of no help to noone. Neither will your friends, because you didnt prepare. An...

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For a while Ramtha was saying, TRUST NO ONE. And I forget but these little sayings everyone repeats --about how you have to turn away the little rats who knock on your UG door when days to come are here.How they had their time to prepare and didnt. For a while. Until Fukushima and then we were suppo...

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He tells people the homes he is renting them are his and collects rent from many homes, with 4-600$ added on. So thats like your landlord not really being your landlord. And how do you know he is even giving the real landlord your money. About the donations. I was adding that on. I have seen him hir...

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THE LATEST I HEARD WAS THIS APRIL 2012. THE BIG THING WILL HAPPEN. THAT ALL THE RAMSTERS WILL FOCUS AND CHANGE WHEN NOTHING HAPPENS. HEY THAT IS NEXT MONTH. YOU CANT REASON WITH STUDENTS. ITS LIKE THE ASCH EXPERIMENT. THEY ALL GO ALONG WITH WHAT EVERYONE BELIEVES EVEN IF THEY THINK ITS CRAP. SOMEONE...

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She wanted to die on the holy grounds. That is more like the school will whisper about. And she will come back in the baby of a student. Because she wants so bad to be a student again.

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I knew about this for 3-4 years. But didnt know anyone personally who got scammed by him. I knew this one individual, one of Ramtha's front row favorites, he is always hugging etc.. I knew that he would rent out homes, then sublet them after adding on 400$. Many many students did this, rented from h...

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Tonight at 7 there is a free stream on ramthatv and one of the guys will tell all about his miraculous cure from hepatitis

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The hook was I believed Channeling was possible, was real phenomenon. I believed it.

the end was public humiliation on stage

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When you initial this, you sign away your whole life. You will give all your money to the school, and live a life of only my prophecys and predictions, whatever I make up. You will not question if I say one thing one week, and a different thing the next week, you will just follow and obey. You will ...

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She said she was the reincaranation of Marie Antoinette? DIdnt JZ lay claim to that one for one of her followers? uh oh, war of the channels.

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prozac, wine because it helps you drop your veils, twinkies they are eternal youth food, 5 hour energy sold online at RSE store, reservatrol with Ramthas quote right on the bottle, 40 dollars a bottle, pipe smoking, Ramtha would never ever eat fish, read meat, have to eat organic - never trust FDA a...

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Its no secret c & e. You blow your word into the void. You hyperventilate and hold your breath, imagining a word blown into a void. ok. You hold your breath until blue, them blow forcefully and loud so the whole arena can hear you. Like god blew his first word into the universe, just like the bi...

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http://ramtha.com/emailers/2012/0220_VLD/images/online_01.jpg My friend sent me this email of two guys saying they cured Hepatitis and some other "life threatening disease" with the disciplines at RSE. At the top of the email it says if done correctly that the disciplines will work. Imply...

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Some Ramster, this is the second time I heard this, tried telling me that Ramtha is now saying that the big earthquake that will take off California is coming this APRIL. 2012 I said WHAAAAAAAT and when on and on about how it was supposed to be last April, and how Japan had THREE days to leave JAPAN...

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Its just awful seeing "Ramtha" on stage drunk. I feel sorry for your friend. Yelm is a cold, rainy place with nothing to do. So sad.

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That author is so funny I laughed while reading it. Thanks for posting. Indeed Master! ahaha INDEED
So might it be.

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"if someone would lay legal claim to a spiritual insight, then how spiritual are they?"

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In an emergency would JZ use her arena to house and help her students if they are left homeless in Yelm or hungry?

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How she cheated on her husband in his own house, raped at four years old, how she was so poor she at saltines with ketchup for dinner. How she was sooo smart in business. how her husband had strange bathroom habits. Her love for the mustached gay cowboy. Dad stole money from mom at gunpoint. How she...

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There was this C$E session we did, once three times that day. We did blindfolds, huffing puffing to techno. Then we were told by Ramtha recording that it is Dec 2012. We are safe in a cave. The sky is blood red. We have survived. Now we look outside and we see spaceships and aliens ( beings tall whi...

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Thanks Okham. Did you hear ramtha at last event said

this year all the volcanos are going to go off? Does that mean Mt Rainier?

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I know its so stupid. Nothing has erupted yet. What happens when nothing erupts? Why Ramtha wants to terrify people is beyond me. I never bought into the virus scam. I believe our bodies and minds create space for viruses as housecleaners if necessary. Its big business as usual. FEAR. Does Jz really...

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He said he was disappointed with the last teaching, possibly this last Xmas one. Maybe the one after. He said he spent 100 grand on his UG. Ramtha apparently said at this teaching, that no gloom and doom is happening. That he will see everyone next Xmas. And that " What do you expect when you g...

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This is really really scary stuff . Scares me to pieces. It looks like a cult compound. I would be scared of another Waco TX. Please JZ just give it up soon, for the love of your students. By the way. I hear Ramtha told his guests at a feast to buy $60,000 grand worth of toys for kids. For this Xma...

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Apparently, JZ KNIGHT SAID THIS ON STAGE, Sir Robert is talkign to Jz with a machine she uses to talk to the dead, that Ramtha told her how to build, anyways Robert comes back saying he died from drinking alkaline water and he wants people he told to take it, not to take it. He was wrong. It killed ...

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I wonder if Takeshi, from Iron Chef, has noticed that Ramtha has raided his wardrobe and copied his look.

http://youtu.be/qRmMqjZQR-4

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You guys think-- JZ is smart enough-- as drunk as she is-- to be doing something with her hands, on purpose? HAHAA maybe I like how dilated her eyes are, and how red her face is, and how she turns her head like an Egyptian side by side. All the old ladies probably watch this and have fantasies for d...

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Doesn't the school teach you to create your own money? Aren't the Japanese wondering what happened to the " you have three days to get out" warning? Since a very scary JZ KNIGHT- as- Ramtha scared them into moving to Yelm, with her prediction of a second tsunami coming and wiping all of Ja...

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Oh wow, anything else she tell you? Details?

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As usual Ockham's genius shines thru

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Maybe part of Ramtha's "reason" is so they can come clean. But I think it will make for blockbuster ticket sales. Ramtha in a one on one told my friend that he knows about the tree when he was a young boy. My friend is convinced that Ramtha "knew" that when he was a little boy he...

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" No man in her life, has ever been sea biscuit to the channel" What does that mean? Turn to your neighbors and tell them that. I am sure its just so profound we cant understand. I love to hear about JZ and her romantic life. I love how at Ramthas drunkest people are still taking notes. Ho...

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I got the email, that Ramtha wished all his students could see what happens in a one on one, so with everyone's permission ( who would go against what Ramtha wants) it will be live streamed. I told some students that and their eyes lit up in disbelief and I showed them the email. I cant post it here...

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Signs I would have

JZ KNIGHT IS LYING TO YOU, SHE IS NOT CHANNELING

STOP TAKING HER INSULTS

RSE IS A SCAM

RSE BREAKS UP RELATIONSHIPS WITH FAMILIES

RSE TEACHES CHILDREN CRAZY MADE UP THINGS

I WAS A FOOL ONCE TOO

THERE ARE NO UFOS OVER THE RANCH, just look up

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http://youtu.be/-CicoHjXq1k

What are your guys thoughts?

I like how there is a lady taking notes. Do you see the dancing? Can anyone read lips and see what he is saying?

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It is funny EX, the Ramtha Mansion

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They should have the fence facing in. I know a student who screamed at Mike Wright because he wouldnt allow her to leave to pick up her daughter from school. She apparently was very high up in some government, to be told she couldnt leave by a pilot who she says has a questionable record of killing ...

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I was talking about drunk Ramsters in general, not about the information Robair gave us. Robairs information is very accurate. I cant edit the post, so I want everyone to know what I meant. When I said Ramsters are so drunk all the time they cant think straight to remember false predictions. Thank h...

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PART 2. Ramtha makes hundreds and thousands of vague, confusing, and ambiguous predictions over a decade or several. When one actually even partly pans out, it's "see, the almighty Ramtha saw this coming." In the case of Japan, Ramtha's followers are claiming that he predicted this over 25...

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Read thru all these posts about Ramtha. Some pretty funny stuff. Some on metaphysical and conspiracy boards. Quotes such as In the 90s I met a sweet attractive woman in her early twenties who had given up a job in news broadcasting to devote her life to Ramtha and JZK. She had sold everything and le...

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I remember being yelled at. Ramtha looked at me up and down once and snickered. Being told, all of us, we are so dumb, no aliens would want to lift us up. ( Because we cannot map the backs of cards) How we women just want tight asses to be f--ked. How men will always go for the fat girls...and cheat...

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Noone can be sure of what Ramtha said about Elenin, because everyone was so drunk with wine. They will block what they think they heard from their memory, because they just love their big black warrior, with shaved head, and big muscles, big lips, big you know what..and purple robe...to come with hi...

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I read thru a book by a former US governor who was talking about conspiracies. He said a guy in the CIA came out and said that during the whole Jim Jones peoples temple thing, the CIA and FBI were secretly, noone knew this, they were performing mind control experiments on the people in the people's ...

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I am so happy Rooster. Some say they belong to a cult because you have to "listen to the message" But the message of RSE is Ramtha drunk talking about Linda Evans in a bikini with JZ sailing the mediterranean, how Jz cant get orgasms because she loves her students so much. Crappy poems rec...

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Every time you hear frogs chirping, Ramtha is with you.

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I heard that if you call Ramtha's name three times he will come and save your life. That is what this guy from Denmark said to me happened to him, he had an injury, he called Ramthas name three times and he saw a black shadow come out of his leg and out thru his body and fly into the air up up and a...

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Ramtha hurts people very much. Like the abusive boyfriend who threatens you and puts you down, Insults you. Makes you feel so small. On stage calling you out and shaming you. You love Ramtha? Well maybe you can come and live with me in my mansion but you must prove yourself and walk until dark prayi...

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Ramtha also said he didnt have to take any one to court to get them back. Meaning I thought some sort of voodoo power. Another pissed Ramster said last night " --- has seen Lars on top of Jz-- in Ram's " ." I am so sick of this" . Yeah. I felt that too, David. That Ramtha was tal...

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Ramtha addressed it yesterday at the event last night. Janine stood up and just started crying. I felt so sorry for this woman, drenched in tears, hugging Ramtha/ Ramtha told her that the channel loves her, and ( playing with her hair) " Love needs to take a backseat now to god". I do not ...

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I met this guy. I did. Somewhere in passing. All I remember is he had a special cane from special wood or stone stolen from ancient Egypt. he was meditating. Or channeling. I was briefly told who he was and walked on. I remember it stuck with me, so odd.. Wouldnt JZ love to get her hands on his &quo...

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Ramsters are so evolved aliens will lift them up. I heard that from the ram's mouth. Those ramsters who can see the cards ONLY.
He said that.
Meaning if you can map cards, you can instantly see the future of everything.

So why have UGs then.

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At one event after our walk Ramtha called everyone in, because he found out some people in the walk were using the discipline for evil purposes. What does that mean? Is Jz secretly taping the self conversations on the field? Does anyone think have proof of that?? I heard the guy John Edwards, the gu...

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Rotting teeth, fungus toenails and not being able to come up with 1000 dollars unless saves, these are the 20 year students I have seen, I have had lunch and dinner with. They cover their homes with Ramtha framed poster. Blow so much the tops of their head, the hairs are white. I do see some student...

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OMG I met a student from 20 years ago who told me yesterday, that she had told JZ that she thinks Ramtha is seeing movies. Disaster movies, Like in remote viewing the future and 2012. She had told JZ this years ago. Thats what she said. She used to garden for her, maybe still does. I thought of this...

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I remember Ramtha walked around yelling at people's faces saying " I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU". I was so scared. He grabbed a woman, snickered and said..SOME OF YOU HAVE SEX WITH MEN FOR MONEY. The woman blushed so hard. I was so scared. I was just waiting for Ramtha to come to me ...

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The lady who sells the food storage on MConnection, not happy hovel, the other one, died. She was in the hospital getting her stomach looked at, routine, the doctors accidentally punctured her lining and she died. She left a business alot of ramsters depend on for their food, and noone knows how to ...

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Yesterday aliens were supposed to touch down, according to last teaching. A bunch of ramsters got drunk and nothing happened. "Ramtha said UFOS were touching down yesterday" everyone is saying. Well did they?
Anyone see any UFOS

The Ramsters seem to think WELL MAYBE THEY DID

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Its madness the fear Ramtha inspires in people. I stopped warning my relatives about the DTC when nothing happened a million times over that Ram says. The second volcano will erupt and do ice age by November so dont fly. Nothing happened. How I tried to stop my own mother from flying in to see me fr...

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This story is about as nutty as the woman a few years ago who accused Ramtha students of remote viewing her gold,digging it up and stealing it. She went around angry, blaming, involving authorities. Who just laughed at her. But the damage was done to a few peoples reputations. I smile as I say this,...

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I have to tell this story. Ramtha picked this guy out of the audience all the time, and hugged him. You can see it in videos. His girlfriend bragged how the ram loved him, he was good, he knew his goodness. She used this against anyone who spoke out against his shiftiness. She used it against me, th...

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Its so ironic Jz, Lars, Janine, all the inner circle Mitja- they all sat around at a party --and totally slammed and judged..this guy who had a dying wife of cancer. He took care of her every few weeks, did her shopping and when she died he was with her everyday. Dressed her wounds, massaged her, hi...

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I know when JZ stole James from his girlfriend, the girlfriend confronted Ramtha, angry, Ramtha said, " You reincarnated into this lifetime to experience this betrayal"

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Ramtha shouldnt have told Lars to marry Janine when he clearly didnt want to.

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I came across an old friend from way back who works close to RSE. As a joke, I asked ANY GOSSIP? Right away his eyes lit up and said JZ is f---king Lars and Janine doesnt know about it. I said oh, the body guard? Yes. I then asked, is this just idle gossip? How do you know? Ramsters gossip so much. ...

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This is an ad running on MC Essential Oils pass through the cell wall to kill viruses inside the cell and restore DNA to its original configuration. http://www.mastersconnection.com/images/cropped_cell.jpg Click on that. Looks like someone who makes oils just drew that up showing that essential oils...

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Sad friend- another thing I heard when contemplating if RSE was a cult was my friend who is a serious Ramster said "Everything is a cult" , meaning politics, groups, religions, etc. So that to me was an admission. Most ramsters give themselves away, you have to read between the lines. Alot...

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Rose Mc Gowan. She is a Hollywood actress, in many movies and on the show about witches CHARMED, dated the rock star Marilyn Manson.. she came forward on tv interview saying she was in this cult. And how her father got scared and wanted her out because he didnt want her to be molested. Just how dark...

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Let me explain why I think its obvious admission of doubt Comets, solar flares, motherships and earthquakes in our neighborhood; this is certainly an exciting time to be alive seems to me this is sarcastic . I often remind myself You have to keep reminding yourself because its so hard to believe. .t...

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The ROCK discipline. The point was to put a heavy rock on your head and focus so much that you didnt know there was a rock on your head. I am laughing thinking about it. But it wasnt funny seeing the fanatics who felt all the while that it hurt. Felt terrible. Its like saying jail is good for you be...

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The old Question was: How many masters does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer: 12! One to hold the light bulb and 11 to drink wine until the room spins!

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I may have been the only student, when I was, that preferred staring at cards to seeing Ramtha talk for 8 hours ----about hobbits-- and how unless we do what he tells us to do, we will all die. It was so boring. I never heard anything new, and I really didnt care about politics...and who were the gr...

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Whats really sad --I cant even read it now--its so sad is the CHILDRENS RSE PROPAGANDA RSE has childrens books, with drawings and bright colors, coloring books.. About the void and angels bringing purple presents called the ultraviolet frequency or what not. How this isnt real reality. Its got drawi...

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Sorry David. Emotions. About the blue body diagram. Maybe I should make this a new thread, but I have seen many Ramtha RSE inspired tattoos. One persons body is covered in spider webs under their clothes. Tattooed on their body, blue webs!! They got illnesses and thought this would be the solution. ...

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HIPPIE BULLSHIT thats what it always looked like to me. None of it made any sense. I took a food course once and learned about vatta and pitta garbage. Intense course with tests and everything....and how people need to eat different foods that are warming or cooling..and thats what all this stuff re...

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It sounds to me, from the email from the Masters Connection --that the Ramsters are making fun of themselves. Doesnt this sound like tongue in cheek? It sounds like someone questioning it all, sarcastic ...it does to me! read: Comets, solar flares, motherships and earthquakes in our neighborhood; th...

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URGENT this may be last event before Japan gets hit with another earthquake and we are all destroyed by 5 layer Tsunami. Urgent this may be the last event Ramtha will ever appear, because he is tired of teaching people who wont let go of monkey mind. URGENT this may be the last event Ramtha will spe...

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Bring your supplies means bring your own alcohol. They say SUPPLIES to fool the authorities. I cant stand wine ceremonies. My first one I cried and called long distance payphone outside the arena back to my home in tears. Men gross all nasty poor guys with no teeth were grabbing me. Where I came fr...

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Correction

September 3, 2011 Stream. SORRY!

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Ramtha said at this event, greys are like us, developed to be workers, slaves. Anyways, all our races come from different aliens. Whites come from Annunaki. Anyways, there will be a battle of aliens and people, but our government will hide this from us, Then they have to get their ships out by 2012 ...

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Here is a video of a guy and his family reporting to "the family"

The last minute he admits his kids all share their stepmom sexually, as one wife to all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkJ1xFnZmY

This is for Joe Sz who taught me alot in his posts. I bet you have seen this one.

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Here is a video about it I am watching now. http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/the-family/xcf0341?cpkey=46e00c4e-0a98-4683-b4a2-3d85b018da7a|||| Lots of Ramsters come from Australia. I am sure they heard about this. Isnt the motto for RSE --make known the unknown? Well the motto for the Family is--...

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That was so goddamn funny. I love it. Its very true. It cost 20 dollars to view this online. Yes you can have anything you want by just posting photos on your walls, a dream board. This guy posted 1 million dollar bill on his wall and then what do you know he writes a self help book and becomes rich...

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If I thought about a blue butterfly and I go to the store and see one, buy it...that does not mean I manifested it.

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My girlfriend C told me she huffed and puffed so much that the area where she blew energy out her head, the hairs all turned white. I thought that was a funny story and relating it here as I thought of it, when David was saying how he huffed and puffed til the cows came home. I heard Joe Dispenza pu...

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The photo they have up of her, the side profile, of , with his hands under his chin, looking like he is pondering how slow all his students are.. you know the one. I used to stare at it, and her ear is sewn on so far over her face, her earlobe overlaps her cheeks.Her EARLOBE IS SEWN OVER HER CHEEKS....

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She looks like a Stepford wife

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That stuff is so scary my goodness.

":God is I am, everything you to say to yourself, you say to god." says the blonde with the red lipstick

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EX I saw in small print that RSE will be in Japan. Still on for Japan. I cant help but think, RSE teachers, and maybe Ramtha himself, will be in Taiwan? Thats close to Japan no? Isnt there radiation there? Didnt Ramtha say by the end of last June, Japan will sink? Creating a massive Tsunami? To be f...

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I showed that email to two people and they both voiced their doubts. Thats good, eh? I was very pleased. These are 20 year students who all kids were named by Ram. They voiced doubts good and loud. I didnt say anything. I am not a convert, by any means, I just really like a few of my Ramster friend...

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This is from the newsletter RSE put out November 24 1999...more Ramtha scam lies to sell out events. The following excerpts from the evenings talk I am not coming back and will not be here for Christmas. I will not be here anytime next year, until one moment, if I decide to come back. It will be whe...

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What I found today in a box of notes. Now what, our teacher has left. Tears rack my body. During my focus this morning I ask, DID I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY TIME WITH RAMTHA? I feel I squandered my time..I am human and act like one all the time. I am filled with regret. Is that human? I missed the final...

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AHAHHAHAA

I heard a one on one session, and some lady was asking Ram, he must be so frustrated that his students are so slow in evolving. At that, Ramtha said, I am not disapointed in any of you.

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Tree- I remember feeling it was sacrilegious to play card games like rummy, with your smiley deck. That is so funny. Going to the back of the arena to play a card game with your friend!

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What about all the zillion predictions that never came true? Hours and hours of listening to this guy talk mad gloom and doom that never happened. People having nightmares. Everyone wanting their UG hurried up and built now by Sept. Because thats the new doom day. " If we are wrong then so be i...

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I got calls and emails. Apparently the school is mailing out how this next event, Aug 31, coming up will be their last because a comet is coming this September. Nibiru is coming!! Last rse event? buy tickets now! Read here http://ramtha.com/emailers/2011/0827_URF/online.html My friends all warn me, ...

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How come Ramtha doesn't come on coast to coast? Why is it just JZ Knigh?

Nobody wants to hear what she has to say-- who is she-- next to a 35 ,000 warrior who captured all of India. Who is honored in anything resembling a ram anywhere, all over ancient Egypt.

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My mother was touched by a priest ---and when she told her mother --she said to her daughter, "you should be lucky you were touched by the hands of god".

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This looks familiar!! From the bronnikovs website

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I was paranoid the other members would see what I think, smell the doubt on me, maybe they did. But word soon spread and noone invites me over anymore. I have been very paranoid, especially writing on here. I thought I would be some sort of target. Put my life in danger, etc.. thats how scared I was...

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Everyone calls Ramtha " My teacher"

Teaching you what? To smoke a pipe, drink wine like a fish, eat red meat, meditate, gamble?

For the money you spent in 20 years, you could have been a lawyer in four and now be richer than you are now.

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Red Guards are like social workers with no training. I have seen once a guy get thrown out because he asked some kids to be quiet at 4 am, so he could get some sleep. The mother freaked out and chaos insults ensued and there they were told him to get his stuff and leave. Maybe somewhere else, but he...

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Its nonsense. Makes no sense The unified field ( only Ramtha can see) is the unification of forces, contains forms..( ok) physical attributes that constitute the physical universe? Personal consciousness creates the forms...and holds it together.. like how people create the imaginary Ramtha in their...

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Ramtha is jealous of Abraham Hicks. The Secret was on Oprah! JZ used to beg Salma ' Get me on Oprah, please get me on Oprah"

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Seriously--That is so it. That is what happened to me. I came looking for something. All it was was some sort of meditation, focus. Then I got dumped on me all this gloom and doom and begged demanded to come to the next event, because of unforeseen coming crisis. Then Ramtha's drunken wine parties w...

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I asked my friend and he said "I listened to a few minutes. She said she was burned as a witch in France in a former life. She also said she hates alcohol and Ramtha makes her drink, but only a little and that people don't get really drunk at the wine parties. She was basically playing to the p...

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shared a number of predictions and insights which she has learned from Ramtha over the years. One such prediction is that there will be a deep freeze hitting London in 2012. RAMTHA SAID THIS WAS TO HAPPEN NOVEMBER 2010 AND IT NEVER DID> Knight said that when Ramtha originally made this prediction, h...

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For preaching so much "allowing" and not judging..they dont allow those accused as sex offenders- in the school and post their photos and addresses on the wall. To judge. My friend's boyfriend wasn't ALLOWED to be himself, and he was to say lightly, judged negatively by the big gay warrior...

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Whatatrip that was beautiful. Yes. WE ARE NOTHING BUT YELLOW BRAIN MONKEY MINDS..we can become who we really are, if we do the disciplines every day, all of them, and if we dont get out of our monkey mind its BECAUSE WE ARE NOT focusing hard enough. If we die from disease, it was our fault we wanted...

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She kept getting sick and coughing, saying the body was trying to reject him. The channel didnt want to come back, he didnt want to leave and death is the only option and neither of them are having it.

WHAT?

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http://www.wrensworld.com/froglaughs.gif I know. I had to leave. It was terrible. My friend's proof that Ramtha is real is that Ramtha can drink alot of wine without going to the bathroom. I got in heated argument and left. She looked so bad and slurred her words. The people looked all pathetic and...

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He spent a good while talking about fucking and sex and how the audience is all bastards and accidents

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Ramtha said something flippant, about how he is being honest today, and then how all that will be left to him will be--- something negative, and not me ( Ramtha) I think the guy was messing with Ramtha.

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They cut the audio on Ramtha when a student was telling Ramtha that he did not get the audience Ramtha said he gave him. Ramtha then went into his ear and said " Did you say you could not afford an audience and I gave one to you and your wife?" and he said' NO that is not true at all"...

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JOe very true and to the point. I do notice this. Its all cliquey. A cult has its disciples, then takes them away in favor of something newer and they get upset. Why I couldn't understand why I was coming to this great spiritual school yet felt I was pushed to the back of the class right away. The g...

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( cont..) it was my first brush with doubt about Ramtha. I felt sad for her, but I steered clear from her since being I was a believer.

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I met woman who runs MC once, while ago at a yard sale. Very bitter she seemed about how Ram is full of shit about TDTC, and all her friends dying, how disciplines dont work. She mentioned the omega scam. Funny she should much later be in charge of masters connection. That was last person I would ha...

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A front row Ramster for years is known for his business of helping people create a business, online and also about marketing and selling products. This is the advice he gave my girlfriend. "Don't bother advertising in the MastersConnection, in fact, don't bother marketing to Ramtha students. Th...

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They are current RSE students. I heard Raymond approached JZ two years ago to help her out or something, I think she turned him down. Apparently alot of business Rse students are shaking in their pants cuz alot of them had dealings with Raymond. This stuff scares me so much. I dont want to know anyt...

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I heard was he was being detained in a federal prison without a trial. I heard he used to have secret meetings and everyone who went, is now in hiding, one guy says a helicopter flies over his house everyday. Meetings about how to stand up to the Gov. or something like that. Leo Bell I heard that na...

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Sad Grandfather if anyone would do this, its those on the RSE "board", to get rid of her so they can take over the huge scam-empire. I wonder how many cards they have focused on, about this? When it comes to money people get weird. I am sure alot of people are angry at her for lying to the...

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Ramsters defend the wrong predictions by saying that it WILL happen, just we dont know when. Ok. Thats like saying I will die, someday. This is what " doomsday cults" all do. All of them. Research. I remember being told over and over again by Ramtha that by the end of last June this tidal ...

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I have heard Ramtha tell sound people to turn off and this is for you guys private ears only and then talk about predictions. But everyone is so drunk, noone remembers. I should look at my notes someday. You know, I found from a dead students belongings, I bought at sale, in Rainier, because I wante...

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The wealthiest people, and celebrities have fallen for Ramtha's scam. Also the criminals in prison and child molesters, who want to change, they fall for it too. Ramtha scam plagues all classes. I know this. I heard, and this is just a rumor, that the role of the female captain in one of the star tr...

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A part of me inside knew all along.

But I blamed that part of me, for taking away the magic, and for making Ramtha not real.

I felt if I believed in Ramtha , he would then be real.

I had to erase doubt. Just like most cults make you do.

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Some lost wealth money and a great sexy men back home in paradise, average income in 6 digits. to Rainy cold Yelm. When body mind consciousness is alive here just as much...with JZs celebrity worship and anyone with money. You cant move away from human nature. Spiritual people are sometimes worst th...

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Ramtha has spoken about being the devil too, the black angel... that's his nickname in some rse student circles. Not that I am offended, I don't believe in any prophets, demons or devils..not anymore. So he made a youtube to say we are with you. When I saw this I wasnt sure if Jz's skin around her l...

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http://youtu.be/rgJGkfgvUWw (DEAD LINK)

What do you guys think of this? Its funny huh

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OH wowwww

what a good video.

Its amazing.

I am going to spread this around, thanks.

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If you dream big, and bigger, and take action, you will attain what you wish. I believe that. But it takes action, and saying yes to opportunities. Not just blowing in the wind or staring at imaginary grids. I think thats why we all were attracted to the school, is to manifest your dreams. It was th...

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I told the carpenter that and he said, " Do you know how many times Ramtha was not allowed to smoke "anymore". How they took down all the photos of Ramtha smoking in the quantum Cafe. This has happened and it went back to the same smoking and drinking all over again, this wont last&qu...

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They make it like Jz knight is a self help lady who helps so many people at ramtha.com. Self empowerment and getting over trauma. This is not what RSE does at all. They lie to everyone that there is a 35 000 year old warrior reincarnated, hook people with doom and gloom scenario, this "god"...

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Even if for thousands of years people believed Ramtha was real, he would never be real except in the imaginations.

If u are still waiting for your bag of money after 21 years of blowing and it hasnt come, well, its time to pack up the excuses and say, This doesnt work.

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Thats the last time RSE will have a Real scientist speak.

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I just met with some students in the park. He said alot more than that they said. Someone named Louis gave him attitude during questions, so he said, well, now I will tell you how I feel, then he told the students that he seen their card demo and its 1 in 4 chance, and he has seen better odds in a c...

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Thanks so much guys. Like I said, when I asked a student, "Oh you will hear about it I am sure..you always find out anyways." Yes I did. That is nice. From you guys. I am glad. I am not in the dark anymore in my circles. You know I never blame the students, I think the students are looking...

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I saw bits and pieces of the last stream at a friends house. Ramtha was wearing the ugliest robe I have ever seen him wear. It was like a white bathrobe. I then heard my friend say that they were now selling that same robe in the Quantum Cafe. Things Ramtha wears sells for lots of money. 20 grand fo...

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Including the school, the average income of Yelm..is not even ''lower middle class!"

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Not to mention all the Ramtha school of enlightenment students all go to food banks. They go to take all the bags of canned food, pastas, noodles, sugar, flour, etc for their food storage. The Rainier Bank I was told is run by Ramtha students. I do not know if this is true. Ramtha students go to foo...

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Sad Grandfather, I read all your posts and I see wow, you really have the philosophy down pat. And you didnt pay a dime! I have to tell you guys another thing. I do want to be fair though. But I always had my doubts about the wine thing. I was friends with someone in the school who everyone interna...

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I know alot, alot of rse students..

whose teeth are black, from the months of wine binges. Rotten.

I also see most of them have either one of their two front teeth chipped from smoking pipes.

I have seen this alot. Only students.

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Ramtha did not remote view the tsunami ---AFTER THE FACT said by the end of last April another tsunami was going to hit Japan. Ramtha cannot remote view period. If Ramtha truly wanted to help her Japanese students- he would have warned them and had emergency stream and charged people BEFORE IT HAPPE...

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Its so painful to come to the realization its all been fake. It sends people off the deep end. To be lied to on that big of a scale. God. I see this coming on to someone I love and I will be there for him. He threw his life away for "his teacher". You have no life. All your friends come up...

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Well, it is a possiblity that JZ could be like one of those Manchurian candidates. An experiment in mind controlling. Her handler could be sitting in the audience every night. Yes. But I doubt it. Jz is actually very bad at channeling. Lots of things go thru my mind. Like how can this woman be so cr...

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The only rich students in Yelm, are the people associated with the running of it. At all the wine and music parties -you see the fabulous wealth...the big BBQs, the lavish dinners, yeah, of the RSE business. Not independent or hard work wealth. I heard how much Greg S gets paid. I know how much a mo...

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I met someone the other night. A student. He had gotten so drunk he was stranded and had no ride home. Another student had punched him out for stealing wine from his house at a party. He was starting trouble at the bars. He was hit a few times by some bouncers. Also for flirting with a woman. He arr...

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Please protect all the ex students who saw thru JZ's lies and left the school. Just because you were once a student does not mean you are still brainwashed. I hope that ex students who left the school, after finding out it was all fake, are safe, in their reputations. I hope no lists of students eve...

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Many students get together and say that they had experiences and the teachings changed their lives, ( for the worst yeah) but that now, they cannot understand why Ramtha would talk about things like Linda Evans and Oprah for hours. It doesnt make sense to them, so they say that Ramtha left the body....

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Guys my friend said that all the people that moved here from Japan, 90% of them hate it here. She is helping with apartments here. Lots of students donating rooms. But Ramtha says its the only safe place. So they stay here.

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I used to think that if I didnt understand Ramtha = that meant that somehow I was in my monkey mind. Or distracted by this reality that was somehow inferior and not real. Guys. I was so far with my boyfriend, ready to throw in the towel. Last night he sat me down and told me if I loved him I would a...

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I saw JZ on stage saying I am not a psychic all these years and know nothing. I know June 15th something very bad is going to happen. She then said, if it doesn't happen we should be happy it didnt. Then Ramtha went on saying by the end of April this coming disaster was coming and the Pacific was go...

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At her funeral there was an orb photo show. The day after her death, there were orbs photographed around her house. People were convinced that the orbs were her floating around. Happy and free and without disease. Its sad. I knew her some years. Not trying to make a joke. But that is something I not...

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I also heard he gives story time to children and tells them he will send runners to show them the loch ness monster. Its all so silly. Ramtha children have evolved dna. They can learn how to do things faster then their parents learned. He said.

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There are students in RSE who think they are in a university! Look http://events.ramtha.com/images/cart/full/SS0701M.jpg They wear school style sweatshirts like its official...also stating what class they are in like BC or primary. Like RSE TEAM, sports team, like college jackets with a BIG R on th...

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...they dont think as much as they can, because the mind is bad, the mind is ego, the monkey..any doubt is because your ego is jealous of what it would do to survive if you really became a god! ( by not thinking)..basically you are inferior to what you CAN BECOME by staring at a mirror all day. You ...

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I think at the onset of her prozac, alcohol, vitamin injection shots, energy drinks,plastic surgery medication, that started messing with her mind a little bit. Made her nutty channel. Just because she was intelligent when she started fooling people, doesnt mean its truth. I am sure the original tea...

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If I was a channel and fooling people. I would be from Venus. The planet of love. I would be made of rainbow gas.

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Why doesnt Ramtha just tell everyone its bioterrorism by the grey men. Call and EMERGENCY STREAM, charge 50 bucks and then say that? Why doesnt Ramtha use the news to his advantage to make Judy some money. Before June 15th comes. For masters they dont have to worry about eating ecoli, they are maste...

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That is exactly how I felt. Like how could I be the stupid one when I wanted to find supermind, something beyond, in a world where we live forever, and we can remote view things, do miracles, see cards before they are turned over..all the hidden history of mankind, there really being an Atlantis jus...

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Just truth. WOW I read your post and I feel you. I feel the truth coming out that you heard something beautiful then found out it was plagiarized. How shocking to the system it is to find out you have been fooled, after thinking you found a miracle. Jz is just a human. Copying things that sound wise...

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I am surprised I didnt see this posted in here. On the front page of Nisqually News, two articles about a crazy guy who got telepathic messages that JZ was going to be hurt so he shows up at JZ's ranch trying to save her. By cutting the gate fence. It was last week or this week. Anyone know who that...

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Part 2 was crazy. Nuts. I sat there like oh my god do I really want to hear the adventures of bikinied JZ and Ladystar on their 20 grand a day yacht. How good they looked. And what they ate. For four hours. Also give your kids twinkies ( everyone laughs) NO, I am being serious. ( Laughter) / You kno...

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I just got a few emails saying that Father Mihael says there are going to be three comets coming, some closer than Elenin. Since when is he a prophet of doom? Which will wreak havoc on us. Ramsters are also having nightmares of earthquakes and some say there will be Yelm road split in two. Yet some ...

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He can sit there for 12 hours drinking with you telling you your last lifetime wasn't important enough to talk about- and why your problems all stem from yourself. Maybe he will tell you a little story of ancient Atlantis and of his mighty steed. How you were in his army in a past life...or one of h...

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Its almost like being a gigolo. Middle aged women fantasizing about a night alone with the big dark warrior, one on one. They can look into his eyes and seduce or be seduced.

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Ramtha tells little kids that angels come down the ladder to go shopping for bodies, all colors of the rainbows. Bodies in the closet like clothes. These entities are too scared to take the adventure of being human. So the brave ones go and that is who you are. Then when you are out of your body you...

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No Ramtha student eats seafood.

You go to a Ram party and you will never see seafood.

Because once Ramtha told the audience he would never eat seafood.
Never.

Red wine a must, and large meat, steaks, a must. Ram loves olives and cheese, bread. Thats what they ate 35000 years ago. Turkey drumsticks.

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to the above poster: I know that story. The runner that was sent to this man's wife, was an 18 year old boy. Ramtha had said, " You will meet a younger man who will make you happy" Anyways, That is the rumor, she ran away with an 18 year old boy while the husband was left behind, dealing w...

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He was speaking about experiments and mind control to a bunch of students who think they have the free-est minds,when their minds are shut down because what is seen is known and NO GOOD. The students are brainwashed with fake science.

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Alcohol does rot the brain and makes memory go blank. When they get so drunk they blank out, they think they are psychic and can see the future of everyone in front of them. They know what is going to happen the next day, etc I just dont get it, how these ramsters think they are so evolved , because...

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There are "Ramtha" restaurants, owned by Ramsters that are the only places masters go to eat.

Proof that their focus works. They got their restaurant afloat. Focus.

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I like how people at the end of an event they go up to the bulletin board that says what each song played was and they all write down the song and who sung, then go out and buy the cd in the quantum cafe with their credit cards. Songs for everything c&e, focus, bluebody..

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I wonder if the band knows their song was played repeatedly to a DARK CHANNEL'S 17 hour gloom and doom fest. It was so scary my god. For 17 hours noone moved from their places in front of the tvs. Horrible scenes of whats coming, "By the end of April" this is it guys, the end is here.

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Ramsters tell everyone Ramtha predicted the Japanese Tsunami because 5 years ago he said, something like WATCH THE WINDS FROM JAPAN

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Ramtha predicts something will happen and something will not happen, so if either happens, he is right. Its usually the cult people who lie for their guru. Ramtha has not predicted anything. I have heard with my own ears, ice age by November ( Last year)..second volcano erupting after the icelandic ...

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A Ramster having a relationship with someone on the outside?? Wow.

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Ghetto Physics philosophy basically points out the Ramtha is a pimp and students are the whores.

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Ramtha should appear in court.

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I question all religion and all spirituality after finding I have been deceived by RSE. Not about to let someone else tell me what the unknown is. Anymore. I think its called that for a reason. I think we are raised with parents and when we become adults we look for our parents again-in religion. Th...

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Why doesn't she start a compound so everyone can live serving her? That way no one will bother them from the outside? Imagine seeing the Ram everyday, just give away your life savings. Move in a house twenty per house. All doing hours and hours of disciplines until you have succeeded in not thinking?

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Why can't Ramtha remote view how to win this case?

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What exactly does her letter mean? I am trying to figure out..what is she talking about? Is she pro or con? Dear Mr. Beck, Using the Mitigated Determination of Non-Significance as a substitute for Environmental Impact Study of water is wrong. As a taxpayer in Thurston County, I strongly urge you to ...

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Everyone got the email on RSE's email list. What does this have to do with the teachings or the school? Why is this everyone's business? What is the big deal anyways? Judy doesnt own Yelm. They can sell " Ranch VIEWS" or "Field Views" at high prices to the students. Now Judy is t...

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I like how Ramha used to pronounce "baybees". Students say he talks to baby students in their own psychic language, giving them teachings. That is why babies must come to events. They are in Ramtha's bands. Which extend to 89th ave. If you are pregnant and do not know it, Ramtha will come ...

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Kensho, thanks so much for sharing. I think I agree with you. If anything were to happen, like what happened to your family--Martial law, military control, etc..Ramsters would be targeted- be considered a "terrorist". Already a list, doomsday cults in there! Because- Who knows when Ramtha ...

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I like her definition. It's true Cults are everywhere.. When I ask RSE students about if it is a cult they say their brains needs washing. And that there is a cult for everything. I guess you would have to see up close what I have seen, to know what RSE does to men's minds. Nothing is real, you cann...

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Lab, why don't you make a video about your feelings? Post it online? I am sure alot of blogs will pick it up. That's a good idea. Just talk for ten minutes everything you feel. Write out an outline first. Most laptops have cameras. If you are so inclined to tell others what happened to you because o...

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It's been said around the arena at discussions that when you need Ramtha for any reason you say his name three times. I heard this from a handful of students. One guy said his cancer disappeared in black smoke, infrared being..another said they were saved from an infection life threatening. I guess ...

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It makes me sad how many single women are students. Older, alone. I see them alot. They live in trailers, take walks alone, have few friends. It can be very dangerous to leave your family to come to a school that promises all the wealth, love and magic if you just do EVERYDAY - an 1 hour candle, 1ho...

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Kensho. Compassion and love to family. This story scares me very much. May this awaken some people to reality. I think this might be the turning point for some people who read this news story. I heard about Ramtha saying 15 of you will die this year, at a few events back. I hope they dont turn this ...

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How is the believing public reacting to the rapture not happening? Or do they still believe in him, and have a new date? When Ramtha would predict something, and it didn't happen, in the back of my mind, sitting in a room somewhere, I said to myself, Come on Ramtha get it right. I wanted so bad for ...

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I seen her tell a girl to get her boobs taken out because her hair will fall out. I mean Ramtha. A few events ago Ramtha said to everyone, so you guys are noticing I don't look the way I used to. I have heard from people that the reason JZ is aging and her voodoo have anything you want magic, isnt w...

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Also there is no such thing as good and bad. No. God has no judgment. A Lot of students take this to heart. I heard stories of women frustrated with their men but resigned. "It's my past, my judgment, what he did was not good and bad.." basically anything goes. Allow everything. Your boyfr...

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Appealing- about three events ago, Ramtha told everyone why "his channel JZ" had plastic surgery. She threw everyone on a guilt trip who questioned this. It was because one side of her face was semi paralyzed, and she was not able to smile, she had a permanent frown. So Lady Star took her ...

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You are right Okham. Conception does not happen when having sex...it lives three days inside, the sperm. It takes a while .. Oh I forgot.. Ramtha said: When the sperm goes into a woman, they have sounds, and the right sperm, the one on the same frequency as the egg, will find each other, the egg put...

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