The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

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Hello Roy and welcome !
I am so happy you found your way here. You will definetely find your way back to a happier life. You will definetely start saving your money again. I look forward to hearing more from you.

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Every story I looked at the videos were taken down. Sounds temporay, I think Virgina will do well. Grandfather hoping for the best. Better now than later. Your family can still make things right.

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I am Thankful, the videos have been posted. The world should know the truth of rse. What I am experiencing with family is not because of recent fall out. There may be some, the very extreme paranoia. Paranoia has always been quite marked in rse students. It is much worse at this time. Problems with ...

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J.Z is obviouly embarassed by her own videos and actions. She pulls the real footage. What a Joke. And I am dealing with real problems. Mind controlled elderly parents. I will be seeking advice on this. My gawd, the problems rse has caused. Has there been posts on dealing with the elderly rse studen...

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If JZ eventually says, "you can't proceed to the next level to become a Christ on this plane of existence. You have to leave your body in order to evolve. I'll be on the other side helping you and you'll live forever." Omg seriously, I had this coversation and said the same thing to my br...

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Bless you Virginia, for such a wonderful and obvious answer. Clearly this letter is of a brainwashed soul. Only to add the brainwahed ramble to the followers. The school has tried to manipulate emotions for so long, allowing the the zombie like responses and following. I have to say anger in a healt...

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I agree preeatena. I have to say ,I have been sent so many of Bettye johnsons letters from my parents. They are all brain washing bull. Just sent one tonight on a brainwashing no news video! Keeping them for documetation! Behind you Virginia!

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I so agree with you tree!!

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Hello Phil, We here at Emf are ex students recovering from Rse. Some have families and loved ones they are concerned about. Many of us have been where you are now and have now joined Emf. Ramtha is a scam. Ramtha does not exist! I have been influenced by rse for 30 years! I have watched students, wi...

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I should add David Icke has these videos all over his site to prove the existence of reptilians. They are just digital images being disrupted. Some are edited. I just saw this as commical.

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sorry! here is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8j_Cnv ... ure=relmfu

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I may have thought something was up? This goes to show my line of thinking was kind of on?
David Icke might be a bit upset J.z. stole his material?

Ramtha holographic failure and typical double reptilian eye.AVI ...

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I just have to add this as after all the hollywood crap through the years. I think J.z. may have some kind of disorder as holly wood is real? There has been more than several episodes of teaching on this! Is it failure, jealousy to be a hollywood star as her friend Linda? Or total delusion? So breif...

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I think you can be Thankful for sane, careful drivers!

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The ground hogs day movie she made everyone watch when it came out. It was our lives are like ground hogs day, we do every day over and over again. Rse is ground hogs day. It is always the same thing. She is just looking to put out new material. There has not been any for a long time. I am sure all ...

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Hi freemind and welcome. I admire your love for your wife and staying in yelm for her. I sure wish you the best and am sorry you were pulled into rse. As for virginia, we are all here and will pounce on anyone that touches her. It could end the school as far as I am concerned. I am so happy you saw ...

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Hi Jd and welcome, My influence with rse was as far back as I can remember. My parents were both in the school before it was ever a school. How did I get out? It was progressive. I always had things in the back of my mind that always just stuck with me. When you are young and told by your parents, y...

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Hello Lovelight, Welcome, we are hear to listen and help in any way we can. Ex gave a good run down on a relationship with a cult member. Confusion, is a major warning sign! It a sign you are being mentally worn down to except things you are not really wanting to except. The losing your dependency i...

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In the video Virginia posted, watch how she kind of makes fun and escapes the republican lizard people. It is as she is embarassed in front of the nominees.

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The gold was suppose to rise in the year 2000. I suppose after 30 years its would go up at some time. Bush was predicted in the book transformation of America. It was a crazy book but was not the only one that had the prediction. It was also said bush would be our last president many times. Then it ...

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Naturegirl, Thank you for posting. I am sorry you got caught up as many of us did. The early teachings had some subtance. I think it was right around 2000, the teachings really went down hill. I remember J.Z. drank tequilla, claiming she did not wine. I quess trying to show she was different then Ra...

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Good one!!! Seems Jz has voting tables set up at RSE. Just heard from the grape vine. Wonder what she does with those that do not vote her way!!??

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Seriously, I love your post. I have asked that question for years. My parents of course said buy gold, because scamtha says so. I have pondered, if all really did fall apart, who would want a coin? If we were to start over in a new life of sovernty, why would we want stashed gold? To start over the ...

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Yep, My father was once wealthy a Dr. Now living on very little ss.

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I remember several events where one group had paid for tickets and their seats. Upon Ramtha (jzr) calling a session, all groups were invited. Shortly after begining to speak the whole group, in tents or the mess hall were asked to join inside of the arena. Our already small space was tripled or doub...

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Justice for this scam.

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/new ... llion.html

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There is palce to respond under this letter. I have a mouthful!

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Yes, I just heard as well J.z. has denounced 2012. She has a article in her news letter stating it was the article that caused all the fear. I guess Elenin and all the other articles and talks do not count. It makes sense and just as I thought. She is trying a desperate attempt to redeem her self an...

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As I no longer talk of Ramtha with my parents. I do get at times endless e-mails as I may change my mind and attend and event. :roll: There has been a large amount of money making schemes coming out of rse. More than usual. Feasts, events, personal audience , jzs closet...is this a store or what? Ma...

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blindfolded archery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th--4yLe ... ure=relmfu

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There are videos published September 5th 2012. I am guessing it is time to recruit? They are much like the amazing healings as they give no real information and remain a bit mysterious. No names documentation not to mention in the blind folded archery. Did the student actually hit the bail, or just ...

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I just know I sued two companies by the majority rules and got my money back.The state sued the ciggerette company. Had a hell of a general attornry general. Just saying, and it was a high end mortgage co and credit card co.

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Maybe we should all write a letter concerning our complaints about bad business. It takes a majority to make a difference.

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Well he does have money and is in j.zr's age range. Maybe she has the hots for him.

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Obviosly Grandfather!! Lol, Better get your copper hat on!

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I remember the Hale-bopp tale as well. Same stupid thing as elenin. First it was a ship following the comet, then the comet it self later was to be a ship. And yes, that was the heavens gate story. There are many other cults with the same scenario. David Icke and the whole galatic federation thing.T...

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That story had so many scared to death. Even now the comet evaporated, some still claim it is a ship and is just hiding. How crazy this whole story was. Nasa even had a website anwering questions from frantic people, inquiring about the space ship. They said it was crazy but we have to address this ...

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My house was also struck by lighting , creating a huge hole in the well pump. We did not have water for days. I was greatly absorbed and a true obidient student at the time. So lol, now I at least have peace of mind and money!!!!!

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Hi all, Thank you for posting this! It is very true. There also has not ever been one real documented healing, with a Drs. proof ever in the school. All the healings have been those that can clear up on their own. The truly sick, paralized or deformed are still just that or have died. To put the gui...

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It is common for alcholics to have excess belly fat and water retention. Not to mention the twinkies! Lol

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Sadley ex,
Do we call them stupid or brainwashed? Mind controlled to the extent of no critical thinking. Obviously it works. The scams are played everyday and people are making money!

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Ockham, I do agree with you! It all depends where jzr is at the moment. In the earlier days it was taught to be of course to wait, find the right one. Only to be with one man. If you do find the right man, he should be so great as to never have sex. Unless if you were to have children. Yet, no one w...

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Lets go there! Yeah, sex life was awful and filled with guilt during rse. It does feel good to be free of the bull ****!

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Why does it not suprise me this scam is connected to nesara and alkaline water? The origin omega. Does it ever end? At least the blooger on this site sees the bull!

http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... pdate.html

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I do not want to come off as hateful and angry. I assure you I am not like that. She was just so hurtful and took joy out of life. I was told to respect highly and love her. I never even told my parents how creul I thought she was. No one will ever do better than J.Z. She is best at everything. She ...

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This makes so much sense to me but also makes me angry. I will hold my tounge. That women I know without a doubt to be a fake and a narsistic sociopath! My heart dropped in times I had contact. One time even a call from her lawyer saying, well some want to jump on the band wagon. I asked what? Why? ...

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LMAS!!!!

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I am not sure where it was presented. I know the guy lives in yelm and its the latest. SOMEONE tried to recruit me. Aaaheemm! Seriously, Lol.

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Hobo prince scam beware!
http://www.katu.com/news/problemsolver/ ... 00705.html

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Virginia, You are a good Mom. Rse is just not a place for children. There is a attitude among parents that the kids are okay . That is told by the teacher. This is where parents in the school need to take off their blinders. These are kids, they take in everything that is going on around them. They ...

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I know I must be rambeling. I am just not done yet. This I hope you understand is so very hard for me to make public, to tell you all. It is very painful to have grown up like this. The expectations were too much! To be God!? What that does to you, when that is the expectation from you parents! No c...

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Oh and I forgot the huge substance abuse. I like many others learned to smoke and drink at rse. I became and alcholic at and early age. I still smoke. I have battled that on and off for years. I had treatment for alcoholism. Many I know have not yet even entered treatment. Many other also have gotte...

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I have been thinking alot about how to post this. I really said it all. I do not want to point out individuals. The children have their own little groups. They are much like the adults in not letting in outsides and proving your trust as the new kid. Some named by the (Ram), think they are specail. ...

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David, That is a excellent breakdown on what a cult is. I asked this question early on in leaving rse. Being taught from the cult that everything is basically a cult. I really worked at grasping on to how rse is different. I knew the difference, but had a hard time putting it into verbatum. Thank yo...

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Happy Birthday David!!!!!

Hey, are you sure you are not 70? Thats alot of cake wisdom for such a young dude!

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Wow!!

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This really deserves a whole thread under davids thread, on what children are subjected too. I can add my thoughts and they are not good. I experienced them myself. I just wanted seriously to be aware. To keep open connections. Seriously, they will not tell there parents. It is the open non subjecti...

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Hi seriously, I just had to add this. I do not know your nieces age, but the kids at rse are often quite creul to one another. Especially if they are and out sider or new. They are also quite sexually explicit. They are not the nice little masters some think. The talks jzr presents does have a negat...

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Hi seriously,
Good to see you here again and hear your story. Besides a few differences, it was like reading my own story. I so feel for you and I hope your niece can be helped before it is too late. I would talk to her. Thank you, for sharing.

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Thank you, for sharing this Delavie.

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Hi Ukgirl, and welcome! I have a long history of rse. I have not told all friends what I think of (Ramtha). I know who will not listen and who will. Yes, you may loose frienships. Some you may not. A true friend will remain a friend! A friend based on your belief value only, is not a friend to begin...

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Agree seriously! Hmmm! The Ramtha students heard the call? Thats what they were all told. The call was not by telephone! So why not the rest?

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Ha Ha love it!

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I agree W.E. They can have definate healing factors and work in some cases. They can also become a poison in others!

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JZ/R does not know anything until told. I at least have concluded this. My first suspiscion of this was in the mid 1990's. Florida was having many fires, burning out of control. I was at and event and worried about loved ones. I had called family at lunch time, only to sit next to one of J.z.s famil...

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I want to laugh! Maybe it is just seeing me from my where I am coming from after all the bull! It is very true though. Thank you for sharing!

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Ockham, I like that! Thats what I originally had in mind. But joe Your right. I have decided things may be just best left alone. I had other sugestions in mind like uhm... spell check! But I know how things went after the last change and fear David would come after me. So I am happy with the way thi...

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I know the karma was a new idea and not a bad one. I just had in mind when I made the suggestion for a like button. Like they have on face book. Like as to be able to read a post and like what was said, as it maybe even resonated. I had thought some of the people who never post or may even be intimi...

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Welcome Mitchell,
I am also glad you are here!
As far as I am concerned about jzrs teachings and future processes. They are crazy making. I would like to see no one, have to go through such ordeals. Its always good to see another escapee!

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I am sorry I had the wrong person that had died in prison. It was his partner of the time that had died. Michael Kodosky, I will be more careful in the future as I believe all stories and documentation on this forum should remain correct.

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Very true Kensho,
I love she came out for her daughter. True power and love is a mother protecting her family!

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Hi Kelku, I think Joe would probably give you better proffessional answers. Just to let you know I suffered not having the language for years. It is so ingrained and speaking from your self and your own heart can take awhile to adust. I was the quiet kid! Always the quiet one! I listened more than I...

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Hi Kelku and W.E, I do not have much anger towards my parents, I do not blame them. I am angry at the existence of rse . I know some have said ex students are angry. Many have said they are not, well I am. As I said my Mother and Father were quite intellegent. We used to have a very good life. We us...

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Thank you preeatena, I have ordered the book. I think it will take a bit for it to sink in with them. I will just have to give them some time. They are highly absorbed. They have been in the school before it was a school. The stories of their main characters in Ramthas so called life time does not h...

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Thank you, Joe so much! I am just so happy you all are here. I am going to order some of the books and may just help out with the reseach. I feel good about a hard decision. I already heard grow up! Lol. But I am sticking to my guns. The school has already robbed me of much life. I intend to enjoy t...

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Thank you, again so much! I have made a decision. It is just too unhealthy to have Ramtha in my life. I know confronting my parents was advised against, but I just had to. They will have to put their beliefs aside and keep it to themselves or not be a part of ours. It is hard, but I can not risk the...

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Thank you, everyone! I do not read and get into these mailings so much. I often delete most. It is just the constant, did you read what I sent? A phone call, please read! Maybe I used to fall for these but have wised up since then. For me to just put it out to you, just gave me a sense of relief. In...

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Hi all, I was not too sure if this should be under family or recovery. Iam not starting my recovery as I have been out of the school for many years. I am thinking I may need counseling of sort. I seem to be hitting a wall. My situation being my parents are thirty years maybe beyond, solid patrons of...

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I recieve many e-mails of such, to prove Jzrs teachings. They often do not have any origin, just from family members and such. I gave you the mailing as I get them. I left only only one actual site I could find the information on. If you type in the subject you will get many sites. The question I ha...

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Lol, good one David! I can not take credit as I found the picture. I did a little doctoring, but I thought of rse right away. Glad I could help outonalimb!

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The truth behind, the so called secret knowedge of rse!

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Lol Marie,
Maybe we should send a case or geratol! Seems yes, they up as ex says.

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Hi Calafornia, I sure hope I did not give that impression. I think many of us still have the affirmations ingrained. I was just commenting in general that I do not see affirmations as a bad thing. when we hold delusions as we did as rse students. It then becomes unhealthy as many have experienced. I...

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I did look it up, your right Marie, there is a discrimination involved. Agiest, not quite what some had used in recent vocabulary. That I was aware of any way. So for the record!

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I am thinking Marie you are correct. Maybe its just a new term agest, slang ,can be the same thing. Its the term I hear upon my peers and so so these days. Often heard in dating terms, but basically means the same. I am not really even sure of the spelling since it is a slang word. Sorry about the n...

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Hi California, Maybe those twinkies will help, few extra presevatives...! Lol...kidding of course. I still too have some of those ingrained in me. I noticed with now getting a bit older, it creeps in even as it was not important on my list. I am a healer wants to come in as I am in the medical field...

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Welcome Kelku,
Thank you so much for your courage. I enjoyed reading your wonderful post.

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Thats great! Thank you!

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http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/slides ... es-2378156
Just remember I am a expert at technology and I am all good! Lol!!!

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Hmmm, I do remember getting the zombie attack in a e-mail. J.Z. did have it posted the rse site for real. I checked the fema site and it was there! Lol, It was meant to be a joke. You should purchase samari swords to be head the zombies. It was soon removed with apologies as it was taken serious by ...

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Hi Outonalimb, I am familiar with this site. It is one that is highly circulated by masters to prove the predictions are real. At least I have been sent these certain "facts" :roll: by students. I am not sure which came first, when it comes to this site. The chicken or the egg. There are s...

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I read all the post Vanilla! It was hard as it brought me back. I do have to listen to all this kind of stuff talking to my family. I decided I have to be really strong to make that balance. I will never leave my family. I love them so. It has so destroyed their lives and what the could and should h...

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Thank you, Robair! I am so happy you and others keep EMF going. I know this is for Virginas response. we are with you and I am so happy for this site and for the same reasons!!! I love your post!!!!

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You are right Vanilla, they are bored and do not want to do what is told. I know times maybe have changed at rse. But I know kids were allowed to drink and smoke as long as a parent was with them. Who was watching? Who really knew who was just doing what? Know from experience!

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Lol, good one! I like " The Grandfather" Pointing. Hmmmm! I think he would show J.z. a thing or two! No more " Sad Grandfather!" You should be "The Grandfather"! We can have names too!

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So I mentioned in another post J.Z. sends out the group to vote on what ever she wants. One example was the cell phone tower. She sent the women out to show their breasts and speak against it. She won this as well as the nascar speed way. She had all vote democrat! Obama, she told rse to vote. Belei...

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Yes, Thank you dove! I wanted it stated she made people drink or leave. If you did not drink wine with the Ram you were to leave. It was a forced infleuence, checking your neighbors glass! And if you could not control or hold your intake you were not a warrior. I saw too many go off the wagon or jus...

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Sorry to hear sad Grandfather! On friut to another. I hope somehow she will realize and for the sake of the kids. The Granddaughter you mentioned and college if she comes home. Keep on that with lots of love! That is so loving and I hope she will understand and take that as a life giving gift! Your ...

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Vanilla they have the bread of life. The breaking of bread was always in at least the first wine ceremonies. He had students dip the bread into the wine. The body of Christ mixed with the blood of christ. I think it was even said rams body. So is this all the white knight stuff too? I thought it was...

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Welcome prudence, You have been given great advice and support. The choice of course is your own. It is a very difficult situation. I still have my parents involved. It must be 30 years , maybe longer since they first got involved with Ramtha. How long has it been since Ramtha started? Anyone know? ...

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Very well done David!!

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Ockham,
You are forgetting manifest 101. You can always scam or go ask someone with money, being a newbie and get your event and all other things paid for!

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Hello outonalimb, I am just so happy you are here and found your way out of rse! Things do get better. Your so much better off coming back into reality. Too many I know are so far gone, they will die waiting for that miracle and money. What will that get them? A new great life? Will they meet Ramtha...

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The day the rse/J.Z. can turn water to gasoline! I may just be convinced, if they would fill up my gas tank!

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I think that is the problem Vanilla! A bunch of hooey and no real information. It's what the???

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I forgot to add the content! :oops: Don’t Believe in “Prosperity Packages”? Then Perhaps You Should Listen to This… Posted onMarch 18, 2012 Saint Germaine First of all, thanks so much to Ginger for emailing this information to me, which I received just a few hours ago. This is a very short piece fro...

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I am reposting, lost post. This was recentely sent to me. Just again beware! If your brain is too open it will eventually fall out! I know of those waiting and the money should be here any day. They finacially devastate themselves, believeing in these scam artists. The devistation, keep on spending ...

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Thank you, Virginia for your courage to post your experience. It sounds as if you were just on J.Z's dirt list. Sorry you had to go through that. I too used to think she was a spiritual mature women. I was terribly disapointed with the few contacts I had. I found her to be rather self centered, rude...

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I heard about this tonight from family. Seems I never can talk to family as family without Ramtha. Yes greatest event ever this weekend. Greatest group ever. They can turn on a flashlight with thier mind. I think J.Z. been watching the sci fi channel. Ghost hunters, the ghosts comunicate this way on...

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Hi David,
My posts have disappeared as well. So not just Joe.

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Wow David, I did not know that! Makes me wonder more and am so glad I never recieved the white powder gold. How gullible we were. Ready to accept anything " Ramtha" J. Z pushed forward. I was also taken in that scam Rbtb. All the money I had at my age. I also recieved a letter signed it, b...

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Wow, yeah thats scary!

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Hmmm! And how many Japanese students did she put up?

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Alkalin water, dead sea water , white powder gold, omega, pips, lipo blue vitamins, magic eletromagnetic wand, trademark , twinkies, Nonie juice, T something new J.Z. is selling and lamine. All to make you prosper or rejuvinate your youth. All Give me your hard earned money. It will never end! These...

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Lol, I get it pony. The whole finger and look alike? Ramtha as a child yet from a child. Real thing be yourself? Is that what you were pointing at? It is so like the image of Ramtha, yet a child!

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I say the checklist is high. Thank you, pony and lost in space.

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Hi Ockham, Your post makes me giggle, and very true. One of the J.Z.'s lines as Ramtha. A god should know the future. Hmmm, Should or know? I heard this at the last event I attended. She totally lost me. Sorry, maybe getting old? Not with the program? Maybe just plain faking the whole thing? I say J...

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Does not suprise me. Like minds do tend to gather. So scam central has another favorite!

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Should I say I hesitated even posting this. There is a whole lot of stupid sites. Some are so fake and people believe and actually read them. Not to mention fake nasa sites that look just like nasa's official site that deploy destruction and artificial emergencies. And yes have found some to be stud...

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Here is the example of the ongoing scam by yet another very old student of Ramtha. Posted on rumor mill yet a very active one as Sheldon Nidle and Ashtar.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=169781

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Thank you, for posting this. Omega was definetly a teaching and was promoted through RSE. The whole Saint Germain teaching and the inheritence of wealth. Linda Evans also inversted money. Ramtha had said she would be the richest women in the world! It must have been a large amount. I also thought J....

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For the record Clyde Hood became very ill and died in Prison.

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This is still very much alive California dreamin. Read my post under sheldon Nidle and other cults!

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Thinking back to Ockhams post. I thought it was law for a large public facility to display and ADE and be ready for any public, medical emergencies. Any reputiple puplic area would. It is not like J.Z. can not afford it. But public safety is obviously no concern as she crowds in way above the maximu...

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Freemysoul your response is wonderful! Well said.
I also agree with David. That is why we will all be watching, waiting and never give up. Something may happen or someone can step forward. No reaason to make life easy for someone that has no respect or regaurd for what she has done to others.

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That is all true freemysoul. I too have heard the claims and from friends but to to see any thing, I would proclaim to be a miracle. Ordinary things or illness that has healed on it own or elaberations of. See them all grow old, get sick and many die. Very sad the charade continues only to empty the...

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Wow! I know many were not happy to have rse in yelm years ago and wanted it out. Money talks!

I remember and event in which to keep out a cell tower. She told the women to dress up show their breats and go to the meeting. Makes you wonder?

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Question to the moderators, and maybe this should be a new thread! Has it been studied? Since rse is a school and its results? Being rse is a school rather than religion based, what results does it show for education? To me seems strange J.Z. can get away with this? Maybe I am missing something? Law...

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Recognition and pic was from family posted in the rse newsletter. Was it paid for? Not from J.Z. , the school itself. I heard she was resucitated by paramedics for a short period but then, that was it. The school it self and emplyees should all be certified in cpr. I wonder if they are? It should be...

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I like this music video as and educational tool. This is the truth of rse in a music video. May be too much for the older folk. It speaks truth! enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIJQOzXfL8

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You would think a tragic incident on the property of rse would be responded too. A student of so many years. A red guard or employee gets mentioning. A student of long term gets no mention or recognition from J.Z. But healings get top recognition! I just say what a b****!

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The whole, you are doing it wrong has brought to many to feel such failure. Those still struggling to figure out why they are so stuck after 20 plus years. They blow and blow everyday for the hope of health and youth, yet nothing happens. Too many work their behinds off to heal only to die as a fail...

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Hi David,
It is not the same one. The Kathy Mae I knew was also a nurse, but not right in Yelm and yes she spelled her last name with a "E". You never know thats why said if the same one.

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If it is the same Kathy May I know. She died this fall, a heart attack in her sleep.

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Its like reading a National Enquirer artilce. A medical Doctor with very little medical information. Most informed in the medical field would know hepatitis B can in many cases go away on its own. There is no medical information in the article. Not to mention the picture drawn of the heart. It is la...

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I was just reading a artilce," Amway is a cult". This was several months ago. I never really thought of a cult in that light before. It goes beyond religeon and self improvement. The video " How to be a cult leader" . I posted several months ago along with someone else, has many ...

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Thank you, Ockham. Good work, it is much appreciated! I noticed many asking on line about Nesara and Sheldon Nidles credibility. Hope this helps those.

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Yes, I think it was around 1999. I know I invested in Omega and was scammed, I think that was around 1995 or earlier. Sadly, some old investors are still hanging on. I am sure there is a whole host of new ones. It seems to be circulating strong. Some things never go away! I am not sure if they conne...

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I wanted to take a moment to comment on the reason for this recent post. I have been bombarded with e-mails on Nesara for at least two years now. Many sent from friends in the Yelm area. I was suprised to find some talking of this here in Minnesota. I decided to research into this further, only to t...

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UFO CULTS http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/ufo-cults.htm Cults don't start out rich, they scam their small group of followers out of as ...... Sheldon Nidle -of the Planetary Activation Organization - Galactic Federation of ... NESARA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NE...

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Hi Sandy, I am happy you looked up EMF inquiring the Ramtha teachings. I wish you luck with your friend. I hope you may take the chance to share EMF with him. I know he may shut it out. I say, a open mind would consider what he may be getting into. I have a long history of being in the school with p...

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I remember, but as far that teaching goes, what has changed?

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My parents have no money, they have wasted thier whole life on a dream, that so far has only put them into desperation. They still hold to a dream that futher plumets them into a empty abyess. They feel guilty. Ramtha yelled at them and was so mad, they did not do their discaplines. So they try hard...

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I often go back to that statement. It is a state of mind. It has been a huge statement in healing for me. I also have found threads of truth in J.Z's statements. Just like a state of mind! "You do not see things as they really are." " It is what it is". " If you really reali...

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So that is what happened to my brain...LOL! I heard Ramtha as J. Z. has lifted off all protection! So that was the reason for the storm.

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Have to stalk up on that five hour energy to crawl out of all the holes and dodge volcanos. Guess, thats since the teachings do not work!!!

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The change from the ramtha character then to the ramtha mid way through til now, only shows J.z.'s progression of mental illness. The younger sweeter J.z. and sweet old man ramtha, to growing into power, than the abuse of. All voice charater, movements once had power now it's like watching Charlie s...

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Not to mention ex, who actually remembers? I was being nice when I posted. It went more like this. You did not take 45 minutes to create your new year. F*** you, A*******! I have taught you for 35 years and you can not take time to create your new year.(35 year?). And if you did nothing to prepare, ...

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Lol.... last I heard yelm was and Ark and would float. It would be surounded by water. Maybe the bordom of the undergroud would be too much. A little drive around yelm might just perk her up!

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There was a wine ceremony called last night. Your on your own and because no one created their New Year, Ramtha does not have your back. News I was given, of another drunken night. So spend your money on someone elses reality other than your own. Same ole, same ole!

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I think she realizes she may be in trouble, or can get into it very easily. She may have seen the site or been warned. She is not dumb, and plays it smart!

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Thank you ex! I saw this and was hoping you would post it. I agree on the hollywood theme. Seems all is taken much from. I still hold my heart to those that believe this bull and spend their lives in fear!!! I wish I could make it all better! Mom and Mom of parents!

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Merry Christmas to everyone! I hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday!!!!

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I had a friend long ago that invested a small amount into omega. Every day it was going to be here. Years passed, she looked at me and said is this some kind of a cruel joke? She left the school and never returned. Wish I had caught on at the time! This reminds me of that. I hope many do wake up to ...

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I remember hearing about the experience. I did not have to do that one myself, but I remember many bad experiences. I remember having to do field work in the winter on a very icey field. It was so miserable, cold icey and slippery. I was afraid someone would run into me and ?. Many had accidents tha...

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Maybe you need all of our support when you make reports. That is how J.Z. started. Next time or maybe now we should all write letters. I do not have videos but most of us that attended RSE, know what has gone on with the children. Pipe smoking even wine drinking under age with attendence and permiss...

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Way to funny!

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Chairman of the board Bill was the sweetest man! He died from a stoke. He was told to go off his medication from and alternative professional who also died of a heart attack. She was in the school. The school was not to balme, but I blame the school directely. This is when J.Z. had taught you can he...

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Ex, I am so trying to understand myself. Those questions run deep!

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It is total insanity!! How she can keep and audience? The lives that have been ruined. Years ago there was something worth listening to. Everything about the school has fallen into the gutter. It's all made a complete turn, like a bad horror movie. Everything that was moral or good, is no longer the...

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freemysoul, so true!!! I find the ones that have been there so long gave up their whole life. To back out now is just too painful for them. They hang on to every thread of hope. That was beautifully said.

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I hear these updates way too often. A whole year? Lol.... its every month. Family lets me know so I will be safe.

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Wow!!! Thank you for sharing, such a interesting article. Amazing how someone can fool so many and pull them into their reality. Does sound familiar.

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I agree Vanilla. For the ridiculous amount of money, as sad Grandfather says. The people I have know that had a one on one were ripped! A few past lives and this is why, you are the way you are now. A few complement's here and there. Not worth it. But they are so excited, I think one minute and a go...

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I agree sad grandfather! I so sympathise with you. Your beloved family should be enjoying you and vise vesa! No amount of money, fame, cult person, should ever interfere with family and the love and wisdom that is already there. You love your family and that should say more than anything else. It ma...

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sorry the earlier post was the demo site. this is the full video. School J.Z. Attended!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

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Not sure if this is the place to post this! I do really like this video. I think J.Z. went to this school!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d5eh ... d-sta_news

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I have been thinking of this as well. (Defining the cult). It was one of the tactics the pulled me in. That everything is basically a cult, according to J.Z. I decided on my own that there are many beliefs, organizations and places to belong to. It's when it is destructive, threatens you to one lead...

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I agree it would cause discomfort and doubt amonst the students. Wish you were all there before! If any one really researched cults and how they work, in the study of their wisdom. They would never have gotten so caught up. It's one thing to search and learn,( human curiosity). But to forfiet your l...

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I guess another reason for J.Z. to have the students move to yelm. Control of the town. She does send them to vote on or protest what ever she wants.

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No worry David, Loved reading the posts. I see a close relation to David Icke for some of the latest information. I do not like him at all. I call him David Ick! I swear there is a business relationship. Sometimes I worry about some kind of uprising listening to him. Not to mention the ties with NES...

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What fustrates me the very most, is how the students do take this very seriously. Especially the 20 or more year ones. I showed to those, I hoped would wake up the Nasa posting on comet Elenin. (They posted a page in response to the rumors and questions about Nibiru/Elenin. Of course they said it wa...

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It's Nightmare On Yelm Street!

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45050612/ns ... nce-space/

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Hi seriously, me again. The teachings of elanin, I know because I heard some in the last event. I attended around Christmas. I also, am force fed through notes ect. The comet teachings changed so many times. It was first the comet itself was a ship. Then it was a comet and a ship was behind it! The ...

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seriously, I so see your point and so so understand what you felt. I however was in much longer, although i did not take much that was introduced to me early. I remember the alien teachings. What freaked me out more than any thing was after 9/11. I was never so scared in all my life. Fear drove me a...

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I remember that as well. I also remember When Ramtha said he was not to interfere. Now he is threatening to take out countries. I even heard , he told students to cut down trees in one of the latest events. This is so they do not fall on their house. Seems to me that would be the last of their worry...

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I heard about the auction time with Ramtha. It was all new to me being away so long. I actually think the last event I attended was to comfirm goodbye. I already was filled with doubt. Such a turn around in the teachings on image. I did watch the free event stream. It was free. I only saw so much an...

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Just to mention if you have not heard. Yelm is and Ark! This is from rse. The nesara is from ashtar or whatever, but is running through the students.
I was asked to sign this petition!!!!

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Omega lives on as Nesara! http://www.quatloos.com/NESARA.htm
The real Nesara. http://nesara.org/main/index.htm.
look under the real Nesara index. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuYVzxvIx44
Going around like a hot cake!!!

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Thank you, for posting! I so enjoyed reading it. I know pushing hard will only make him make him cling to his belief harder. That is how I would react. I have been with my wonderful husband for eight years. We dated several years before getting married. He is the one that helped me to wake up. He ne...

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I did not save the e-mail, but find it interesting I received a e-mail with a product of white powder gold. Lawrence garner was the name behind it.

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I listen to stories from family and friends at rse. The miracles. Its always someone else. What i want to point out, is no one wants to be a failure. So most stories are always fabrications or truley believed manisfestations. One of the last sessions I attended. One of the teachers had said they man...

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Yes Vanillia, you are right! I do have some good things going for me. I never lived there or spent all of my money preparing for the end of the world. I am enjoying things I have always wanted to do. I now have money! Amazing how much you spend when you go to rse. It sure adds back up when you stay ...

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Hello, My name is rooster! A wake up call from the school of disapointment and deceit. I watched so many lives go down the drain. They are hopeful, yet desperate and have nothing! So many gave up good productive lives to be lost. I my self still stuggle from the destuction of RSE. I a long term stud...

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