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- Tue May 24, 2011 8:31 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: should be under homor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13866
Re: should be under homor
David, I've hacked at 3 manuscripts for many years...maybe too many :?: Barriers to publication are lack of time to make a really good yet entertaining statement that will appeal to a wider audience, and money for a good editor. There is no money or fame in books of this type--a few authors among my...
- Mon May 23, 2011 5:24 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: should be under homor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13866
Re: should be under homor
btw, Creme is a product of the Great White Brotherhood stream of occultists stemming from Rosicrucians through Theosophy, Order of the Golden Dawn, CUT, Ramtha, blahhblahh,blahh.... Creme specifically studied the works of Alice A Bailey, a Theosophist maverick, before coming up with his own revelati...
- Mon May 23, 2011 5:13 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: should be under homor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13866
Re: should be under homor
sad grandfather... Meccas? maybe Camping will finally submit to Allah and stop pretending to be His prophet 8) my guess is he's recalculating and will emerge with another date...or suggest that God used this as a lesson.. reminds me of Benjamin Creme, who I encountered twice in NM when he was on tou...
- Sun May 22, 2011 3:06 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: should be under homor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13866
Re: should be under homor
david, david, Have ye not heard that the prayers of the faithful have been used by the hosts on hi to spare you this karma in New Zealand? Have ye not learned the lesson from The Day the Earth Stood Still? As with all good cliff hangers, thy god saves when his hero is at the brink of destruction. Ev...
- Sat May 21, 2011 8:55 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: should be under homor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13866
Re: should be under homor
Camping employs 350 or so people in his radio enterprise out of Oakland Calf. average wage, $23,000. fully 80% of his employees or more do not believe in the end time hype and plan to be at work Monday morning. The devotees across the nation and world are another story. Camping's "non-profit&qu...
- Thu May 19, 2011 8:49 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7632
Re: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
Psss....as a caution, the skeptiko site promotes an idea that some science does and can prove or disprove spiritual experience of out of body/after life awareness without resorting to spiritual or religious faith. I do not completely buy into it religiously or skeptically, thus the tension you sense...
- Thu May 19, 2011 5:52 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7632
SKEPTIKO interview mentions ramtha
from Internet radio show: "Alex Tsakiris: Today we welcome Joe Szimhart to Skeptiko. Joe is an expert on cults and has been counseling, lecturing, and helping people with cult-related issues since breaking away from a New Age sect in the 1980s. Joe, welcome to Skeptiko. Joe Szimhart: Yeah, glad...
- Sun May 15, 2011 3:09 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Ramtha School since covering, has No More Masters of Cards
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8934
Re: Ramtha School since covering, has No More Masters of Car
Dove, you reminded me of something I observed decades ago with clients and in myself--- the lesson one learns on the path to enlightenment from a deceptive cult leader is that the cult leader is deceptive and not enlightened AND I can be fooled. The true master is one that bows out of the cult after...
- Sat May 14, 2011 8:19 pm
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: event on sunday
- Replies: 30
- Views: 15682
Re: event on sunday
Vanilla, No one predicted that Heaven's Gate run by Marshall Applewhite would end in ritual, mass suicide but that became a small, closed cult that caused little tension with neighbors at the end, and it had no celebrities to attract much attention to it. The similarity here to RSE/JZ is that the le...
- Sat May 14, 2011 7:49 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: The Great Oom
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4012
Re: The Great Oom
http://www.amazon.com/Great-Oom-Improbable-Birth-America/dp/B004KAB528/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1305398886&sr=8-1 From Publishers Weekly Eastern spirituality and Western commercialism fuse in this flamboyant tale of an iconic American guru. Journalist Love tells the story of Pierre...
- Sat May 14, 2011 7:05 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: event on sunday
- Replies: 30
- Views: 15682
Re: event on sunday
May 21 is Judgment Day: Christian group By Janet Davison, CBC News If the signs are to be believed, the end of the world as we know it starts on May 21. Billboards are popping up around the globe, including in major Canadian cities, proclaiming May 21 as Judgment Day. "Cry mightily unto GOD for...
- Sat May 14, 2011 6:39 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: The Great Oom
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4012
The Great Oom
The Great Oom: The Improbable Birth of Yoga in America by Robert Love (2010) is a great read filled with fascinating details about the crazy quilt of seekers and gurus during the first half of the 20th Century. This is a bio about Pierre Bernard (born Perry Baker in Iowa in 1876) later dubbed as the...
- Thu May 12, 2011 7:20 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: event on sunday
- Replies: 30
- Views: 15682
Re: event on sunday
Lost, I no longer believe in prayer magic, those studies you refer to as science suck as far as I see, and even as a catholic [or because I am] I do not see prayer as anything more than communion with the sacred. I won't go in to why but one criticism of this sort of mantra magic or so-called eviden...
- Wed May 11, 2011 5:09 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: event on sunday
- Replies: 30
- Views: 15682
Re: event on sunday
wow, Lost---you read all 13 of Left Behind! Impressive. I could stomach only the first one. Another in that vein is Perretti's "This Present Darkness" which is the 1st of a series that sold well among fundies but not a bad read. It gives an idea how fundamentalists believe prayer works to ...
- Tue May 10, 2011 8:01 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: event on sunday
- Replies: 30
- Views: 15682
Re: event on sunday
EVERY CULT LEADER that stresses immanent apocalypse uses revelations to create a crisis in the group mind. This works very well to keep all believers anxious, thus easier to manipulate. The fear factor works to increase giving time to workshops and giving more money to leader. The JWs find this form...
- Sat May 07, 2011 10:43 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7313
Re: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
learn to erase the effects the mothership and the motherf**k*r who put it there... recovery theory engages all the new promising science behind the "plasticity" of the brain....fMRIs and all that show how the brain heals after addiction and after years of constricted cultthink. I still rec...
- Fri May 06, 2011 9:47 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7313
Re: If Wrongtha tells you there is a mothership above you..
On the other hand you can also be psychotic and see things that aren't there. Hey, Judy?... skilled hypnotists can suggest things to smell, hear, and see that are not there and the compliant client will smell, hear, or see it. a hypnotist can also suggest away something that is there---one video I ...
- Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:14 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
- Replies: 4
- Views: 6307
Re: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
Sai Baba, spiritual guru to millions, dies at 85 New-age icon dies of heart and breathing problems Reputation marred by sexual abuse allegations Jason Burke in Delhi guardian.co.uk, Sunday 24 April 2011 The death of Sri Sathya Sai Baba at the age of 85 from heart and breathing problems has prompted ...
- Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:45 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Raelian ex members say...
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3619
Raelian ex members say...
There are some parallels to JZR with Claude Verilhon/aka Rael who claims to have been contacted by space ship aliens and "Elohim", now with more than 50,000 followers by some accounts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Vorilhon Dr Susan Palmer has studied this ufo sect since 1987--she's ...
- Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:37 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6096
Re: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
yes, there was a korean cult led by a woman in the 90s--all 36 committed suicide. another in Australia were "Breatharians" led by a woman and someone died. But most of the more vicious cult endings are led by men. The Church Universal & Truimphant one led by Eliz Prophet was close to b...
- Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:35 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Father Micael eats at Burger King
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3590
Re: Father Micael eats at Burger King
V, I've researched several hundred cult leaders in depth over the years. "Discrepancy" is more the rule than exception in diet, behavior, finances, sexual activity, D&A abuse, etc. The rule for totalist, self-proclaimed gurus goes something like this: You must follow the rules to prote...
- Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:54 pm
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Yelm
- Replies: 26
- Views: 14001
Re: JZ/R asks students to show compassion for Japanese in Ye
I reviewed this book which is a send up of Festinger's study When Prophecy Fails http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_imaginaryfriends.htm Cultic Studies Review, Vol. 5, No. 1, 2006 Imaginary Friends Alison Lurie Abacus, 1967 original. Owl Publishing Company; New York, NY: Henry Holt a...
- Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:03 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6456
Re: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
my "art" page is under construction--so more coming soon since i got a studio 2 mo ago at the goggleworks art center---trying to reboot an old career ;-) That painting is one in a line of liturgical pieces I've done---it is going to a show in Dayton OH ....ravens were common during crucifi...
- Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:11 pm
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
- Replies: 4
- Views: 13685
Re: DO WHAT THOU WILT
Ockham, Actually....there were many new spiritual movements already camped as "Gnostic Schools". One I am dealing with now is The Gnostic Movement headed but the controversial Mark Pritchard who calls himself Belzebuub--may have mentioned this in another post. So, i imagine JZ and co. have...
- Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:07 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
- Replies: 4
- Views: 6307
satya sai baba--pseudo magician
Montreal Gazette By JOE SCHWARCZ, Freelance April 16, 2011 He vanished the Taj Mahal. He made a train full of people disappear. He can turn a baby elephant into a horse. He performs to full houses more than 400 times a year, travels with a crew of 75, carries 48 tons of equipment, an elaborate laser...
- Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:00 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6096
RAJNEESH/OSHO-- NEW SERIES
http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/inde ... an_we.html
A good example of fanatical devotion and where it can lead...
joe
A good example of fanatical devotion and where it can lead...
joe
- Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:10 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6456
Re: Girl wrote letter to jzrk re Geiss prior to channeling?
V...
Geis is still at it around NY/NJ area --a few years ago I exit counseled 8 of his inner cult who left him--he still has control over a few women and a young man, as far as i know. Ramtha's "prediction" was naive...see:
http://www.jszimhart.com/theater_cult
Geis is still at it around NY/NJ area --a few years ago I exit counseled 8 of his inner cult who left him--he still has control over a few women and a young man, as far as i know. Ramtha's "prediction" was naive...see:
http://www.jszimhart.com/theater_cult
- Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:56 am
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
- Replies: 4
- Views: 13685
Re: DO WHAT THOU WILT
CROWLEY WAS A PROLIFIC [SECOND RATE] WRITER AND POET (oops too loud). he was a wastrel, lived for most of adult life on inheritance from a wealthy grandfather, was actually named "the Beast" by his mom when he was a teen due to behavior issues. He had several "Scarlett Women" who...
- Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:43 am
- Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
- Topic: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart
- Replies: 9
- Views: 37920
Re: THE CULT OF RAMTHA 1993-95 By Joe Szimhart
Vanilla you made my day :-) Jeff Knight read an earlier version of the same article and he told me in 1990 it was "the icing on the cake" that blew Ramtha out of the water for him. It is nice that someone "thanks jesus" but someone had to sweat through all the info to put that es...
- Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:25 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
- Replies: 24
- Views: 19311
Re: Beliefs that I now struggle about and question
Cd and Robair et al your dilemma as to what can "I believe" now is so common with ex-members of any cult. One of the other former members groups I assist [as I can--ex-members are all over thw world] is this one----I posted an essay for them: http://www.movementsofgnostics.com/2011/04/11/b...
- Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:19 pm
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: My sister
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5908
Re: My sister
even IF JZ/R had made a proper prediction, so what? Look where the sovereign masters end up? A circus in Yelm where they parade to watch the two-headed lady prance around on stage as they perform rituals in the carnival spook house. Yelm is no safer than anywhere else along the firey belt that rims ...
- Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:05 am
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: DO WHAT THOU WILT
- Replies: 4
- Views: 13685
DO WHAT THOU WILT
Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) created an ouvre as "the Beast 666" and the go-to guy for wannabe satanists and practitioners of "Magick"---a word he coined. In a recent, well-researched biography by Lawrence Sutin (2000) [Do What Thou Wilt: a life of Aleister Crowley---483 pages] t...
- Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:15 pm
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Is Ramtha There?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9745
Re: Is Ramtha There?
interesting view using the 'black' icons of hinduism and catholics. There are similarities. The general Hindu approach, as I understand it, to religious expression is layered. All layers are considered "real". At one level the gods and deities are real entities, especially to devotional Kr...
- Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:48 am
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Is Ramtha There?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9745
Re: Is Ramtha There?
yes, free, it is 'infestation.' that would be what the minister's wife had in my example. but all this is academic. As ex points out, look at the "fruits" of what JZ has wrought. If we examine RSE philosophically according to knowledge conduct governance RSE gets very poor marks. During a ...
- Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:59 pm
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Is Ramtha There?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9745
Re: Is Ramtha There?
not sure if what I say here is gospel, but demonic affliction [the Latin is often mistranslated as "possession" but affliction is the proper meaning] can occur in 4 ways: obsession, oppression, ??, or possession. Here is Catholic Encyclop: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm Accordi...
- Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:02 am
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Is Ramtha There?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9745
Re: Is Ramtha There?
A.D. there is some validity to what you say. According to the literature demons choose to come and go but are more like parasites, that once they settle in, there they stay and thrive until dismissed. In most cases, the individual can heal themselves through prayer and 'fasting' [does not mean starv...
- Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:58 am
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Is Ramtha There?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9745
Re: Is Ramtha There?
there was a time when I firmly believed that it was possible to either be possessed, or be a medium to some other entity. I had always been taught, however, that this was a Very Bad Thing and could comprise the firmly closed door to the soul, lead one into madness, cause problems for future incarna...
- Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:26 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Guest Speaker Roseanne Barr at RSE
- Replies: 10
- Views: 8101
Re: Guest Speaker Roseanne Barr at RSE
could the connection here be the same plastic surgery firm?
crazy is as crazy does....
crazy is as crazy does....
- Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:50 pm
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: Dr.Ian Wickram felony charges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9208
Re: Dr.Ian Wickram felony charges
the wickram guy may be scum "as it were" in his sexual behavior but that has nothing to do with his crappy "science." “She’s not faking it,” added Dr.Ian Wickram of San Francisco’s Saybrook Institute. “we got results which could not have been manipulated”! "Faking it?" ...
- Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:48 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Doomsday & doomsday cults
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14367
Re: Doomsday & doomsday cults
The rise of apocalypticism What on earth is the world is coming to? Montreal Gazette By AL KRATINA, Freelance February 19, 2011 The world is coming to an end. Depending on how closely you paid attention in science class, the above statement could either refer to entropy on a massive time scale or a ...
- Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:41 am
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: the truth about the mayan calendar
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3873
Re: the truth about the mayan calendar
good toon! http://news.aol.com/story/_a/thousands-expect-apocalypse-in-2012/20080706152409990001 Experts laugh off these notions. "These prophecies of doom really don't have any basis in what we know about the Maya," said Stephen Houston, an anthropology professor at Brown University and a...
- Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:56 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: The Demons & Jinn Watching Us As We Focus Into Mirrors
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4370
Re: The Demons & Jinn Watching Us As We Focus Into Mirrors
there, here, hear. I watched the link you suggested. http://www.youtube.com/user/snake85eater#p/u/28/5sqru4xvNhY I have no idea what it means. Can you explain it for us? People on mental wards are the least 'mind controlled' because their minds are out of control. That is primarily why they are ther...
- Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:33 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: STAND BY ME
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3585
STAND BY ME
for those who have not seen this, enjoy!
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2539741
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2539741
- Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:44 am
- Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
- Topic: pyramid power
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3674
Re: pyramid power
Thanks. It does appear Craig is the opportunist, and JZ/RSE is an opportunist on the coattails of New Age 2012 apocalyptic hype. This "new age" dawning of the Age of Aquarius thing or turn of the ages has been around forever. More recently [1890s] the Masons launched a magazine called The ...
- Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:32 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Question about "Val Valerian"
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4782
Re: Question about "Val Valerian"
Wiz, To answer your questions, yes 1 and 2 are the same from what I can tell on the website. I do not believe there was/is a personal connection between V V and JZ although a number of RSE folk I knew read the V V Matrix stuff and perhaps JZ also read it. Maybe someone else knows more or better than...
- Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:49 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Question about "Val Valerian"
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4782
Re: Question about "Val Valerian"
Wiz I looked over V V Matrix effusionisms many years ago and just looked at what this self-absorbed occultist is doing now--no growth, same old matrix. VV has a fixed delusion that he somehow has tapped into the cutting edge of human evolution and perception. You are quite correct, I think, that his...
- Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:10 pm
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: Are Cult victims gullible?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 20097
Re: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hy
I can't recall how many times I've lectured about the cult problem. No matter what the audience grouping, be they Mensa conf attendees, Freemasons, Native Americans, Police depts, college students, skeptics organizations, clergy, psych hospital staff---I am asked the same question: What kind of pers...
- Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:51 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: RSE Where Angels Fear to Tread - Rockumentary VHS video - Buried and Destroyed
- Replies: 13
- Views: 11869
- Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:30 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Manhunt for RSE cult couple Phillipe Neniere and Agnis Jarde
- Replies: 55
- Views: 30123
Re: Manhunt for cult couple
good points ex.. I read the recent article too. "no, we are not a cult." :roll: because J Gordon Melton, RSE's onetime resident scholar, said there are no such things as cults :roll: [he really did once on tv!] I'm reading a new book "Charles Manson Now" by a male Canadian psych ...
- Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:45 pm
- Forum: All Things EMF - Researching the Ramtha Cult? Use our EMF Search Engine
- Topic: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4568
Re: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
WE I meant only that There is in that nuisance category. There does not make effort at rational response to criticism---of course I am not referring to a person here but only to posts as presented. I do not know There or if the posts are even authentic in the sense of "honestly, this is how I r...
- Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:47 pm
- Forum: All Things EMF - Researching the Ramtha Cult? Use our EMF Search Engine
- Topic: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4568
Re: A fairly well done MPD/Hollywood mind controll video
SG I agree with you to quash There's impulsive nonsense posts and if s/he needs it I sincerely hope There is helped. We work crisis lines at the psych hospital in my dept among a host of other responsibilities so we get a portion of anxious, drunk or mentally distrurbed callers who abuse the system ...
- Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hypns
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5282
Re: Does Jzr use Double Talk-Confusion Tecnque Used-Stage Hy
;-) There, there is another more sophisticated use of "doubling" developed by Robert J Lifton in his well worth the read book "The Nazi Doctors". Lifton defines doubling as the antisocial behavior of someone who can act benign around his wife, kids and family on one hand then go ...
- Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:05 pm
- Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
- Topic: pyramid power
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3674
pyramid power
Someone who had no idea who Ramtha was until he bought a small desk ornament [pyramid] emailed me about this site. I wasn't aware of it before. http://precisionpyramids.com/ The site promotes RSE: http://www.precisionpyramids.com/pyramidlinks.htm Anyone know who this "Craig" is in lalaland...
- Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:44 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Is there any truth to this?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8423
Re: Is there any truth to this?
The Mausoleum is open every day from 10:00 am to 1:00 pm, except Mondays and Fridays. Visitors still wait in long lines to see Lenin's body, for which entrance is free of charge. Visitors are required to show respect while in the tomb; photography and videotaping inside the mausoleum are forbidden,...
- Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:09 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: RSE in Australia
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6521
Re: RSE in Australia
bluesky, the story you tell of this mother is almost a parody of too many similar stories I've dealt with over the years, with dozens from the ramtha cult. what the husband in this case might experience from the Ramtha wife falls under the category of 'gaslighting'. I just helped a nurse I know reco...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
I think that what Lost does has tremendous value for people ooking to live with meds with some success typo--meant to say "for people looking to live without meds" the studies I've seen re depression show that most patients with clinical depression rise out of depression with or without m...
- Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
thanks oldone. this is both an unwieldy and important topic as WE, Lost and others have so eloquently in their own ways stated. The struggle as i see it has been apparent since the days of Freud and Jung who both tried to use scientific principles to treat clients yet find ways to address metaphysic...
- Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:30 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
back on the rails :arrow: The people from RSE that I am acquainted with are quite sane, and I would say the same thing about most people here on EMF. I have to say, I don't believe in DSM either, Joe. All the best, Lost in Space Lost, I get your point but need to address the "faith" issue....
- Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:47 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3521
Re: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
oldone being in trance, aka entranced, is a state of mind in which peripheral reality and discursive thought are diminished. One can be either deeply focussed or feeling generally diffused [dissociated] but the key is lack of applied reason and questioning. If you notice, stage hypnotists use a rapi...
- Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:25 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
this thread is close to going off the rails..... as to orb demons, et al: I tell my clients who believe in/or feel effected by this woo-woo stuff, who believe/experience the dangerous or benign occult powers of their gurus [Satya Sai Baba, Zen Master Rama, for example] that I have been an open criti...
- Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:17 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3521
Ramtha dialog 10 May 1980
Someone involved with Ramtha in the earliest days in Richard Chamberlain's house contacted me and sent me audio tapes from 10May1980. Jeff Knight and others i won't mention are on the maybe 2 hours of the session. It has been over 2 decades since I've listened to early ramtha tapes. Sorting the word...
- Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:04 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
Lost, you said: I think Ex is right, they only have the power over you that you give them. Not so fast. I think that some of what 'There' is bringing up re hypnosis is accurate. We all can be manipulated to do what is normally against our will or awareness. the S Milgram experiments, Prof Phillip Zi...
- Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:49 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
- Replies: 47
- Views: 32693
Re: JZR Launching Demons Into Her Students?
the wiki post on Tod checks out: Todd was arrested in May 1987 for the rape of a University of South Carolina graduate student. After his arrest, he was additionally charged with sexually molesting two children who attended a karate school where he worked. He was convicted of the rape in January 198...
- Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: "The List"
- Replies: 25
- Views: 12556
Re: Constellations
W.E. "Silent decrees (ribbit affirmations) and spoken decrees (rapid and loud ribbits)" ROFLOL, Joe. So apt. Although I was not a member of CUT, the organisation I belonged to taught us to 'heal' etc, using white light and coloured rays of energy. I remember it well. Only when studying psy...
- Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:52 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: "The List"
- Replies: 25
- Views: 12556
Re: Constellations
I had a colleague in the deprogramming field decades ago who had some brilliant if simple challenges to people who overvalued the power of prayer. He was a Vietnam vet that got caught up in a Bible cult for many years, then broke away with the help of an ex-member. Sadly, he died in the early 1990s ...
- Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:37 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: "The List"
- Replies: 25
- Views: 12556
Re: Constellations
thanks for posting the subliminal "ribbit" list, KL I see how readily JZ and her crew have fallen into basic New Thought patterns. The idea behind new thought and the 'science of mind' movements is that thought itself conditions reality, and not only personal reality but thought with inten...
- Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:03 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
I hope you will not mind me quoting here from your review: "faith in God relies on a slim intuition at the borders of our testable reality." Mmmm, yes, I do agree. did i really write that? Some insight must have slipped in... The corollary is that faith implies an awarenes of some kind of...
- Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:49 pm
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: JZ Knight RSE plagiarized material
- Replies: 16
- Views: 27336
Re: Strange findings...
C&C careful, mate. I've been at this cult expose business and helping "others" since 1980. It is easy to get overwhelmed as well as messy. the former because you are entering crazy territory riddled with anti-social personalities, schizophrenia, deceit, and delusion--not to mention rig...
- Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:09 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
let us keep paddling..... marie, I reviewed Lobdell's Losing my Religion on Amazon/if interested scroll down: http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Religion-Reporting-America-Unexpected/product-reviews/B002QGSWGK/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_3?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addFourStar&pageNumber=3 I ask...
- Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:56 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
JZ/Ramtha and her "Church of the I Am' actually did thrust everyone of you (and me by default) into this discussion on this thread. You all bought into her claim that "Ramtha is Christ for you for this age", an early White Book era teaching. You bought the idea that some big guy with ...
- Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:51 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
god as character could mean what are god's traits? Traditional Islam gives 99 'names' or traits of Allah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam only one is truly harsh, the Avenger. This also comes from Jewish tradition: Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. one post used that old canard o...
- Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:06 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
I agree w Oldone: This discussion could be fruitful in the right context. There are many 'christian' related sites on the Net. perhaps Duk and others can join one of them. Those recovering from RSE and similar groups like Prophet's CUT in my case, have special needs. ex-CUT members find catholicism ...
- Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:01 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
- Replies: 36
- Views: 20311
Re: From Point Zero to a God with a Character
I sure would like to hear Joe’s take in all of this since he has struggle with it much longer than all of us and seem to have found a place of peace. Oldone Just lost my elaborate answer to this---took too long and the 'submit' kicked it off :-x I'll save this one before trying to post.... An old f...
- Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:12 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
GOOD POINT AD---REAL FOOD vs MYSTERY MEAT AND KOOL-AID there was a "back to Blavatsky" movement among Theosophists who were upset with the Besant-Leadbeater-Krishnamurti direction tyhat was embarrassing the TS in the press around 1910-1920, according to Guenon. Leadbeater always had sweet ...
- Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:22 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
correction;
he did his thesis in math, on Leibniz---his "theological' doctoral dissertation was rejected.Guenon managed to recover from his 7 year stint in Parisian occult circles as a college grad, then, as an "ex-member" get his PhD in math and go on to excel in metaphysics.
- Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:12 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
AD I see what you mean about "sameness" but i also see that having that "experience" of oneness is universal. L in Space reports how UUs derive from that Principle to come up with a list of worthy "principles" as do all religions and cults with their codes, mission stat...
- Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:28 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
W.E. I'd like to hear others weigh in in this weighty :?: also reminds of a story about the angry Unitarian who burned a question mark on his neighbor's lawn... I guess I am saying that maintaining a position of 'oneness' is innocuous enough as long as one does not move to express it or put it into ...
- Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:37 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
W.E. That is the ultimate "conclusion" or cliche that 'we are all one'. Even mathematician Fr. LeMaitre who invented the so-called "big bang" theory called it a "singularity" that all we call the universe emerged from. Blavatsky and her Theosophists claim to represent t...
- Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:22 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
W..E.. My inclination after all these years of skeptical application is to continue to accept a 'philosophia perennis' or a 'theosophy' that is behind everything. Jacob Boehme an earlier, idiosyncratic [is there any other kind?] theosophist called it the "Ungrund". Some forms of Deism fall...
- Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:51 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
discussing this stuff makes me 'barmy' too sometimes :shock: it is like skating on thin ice imbedded with gravel over a murky lake on Mars....that's a mindfull...sorry ;-) I did get Rene Guenon's [original 1921] book in the mail yesterday and I am well into it. Like revisiting an old eccentric frien...
- Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:45 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
btw, WofthesunEofthemoon great limerick about HPB! I still think that "Ancient Wisdom Revived: A history of the Theosophical movement" is one of the best scholarly resources on Theosophy and HPB by Bruce Campbell (1980) I more esoteric, densely written book in French "Theosophy: Histo...
- Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:51 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Helena Blavatsky
- Replies: 26
- Views: 16109
Re: Helena Blavatsky
have not posted lately, moved my household into a smaller, older, needs work home. --even had to reset my password that I forgot. HPB always attracts my attention. The first long research paper I wrote in 1983 after I left CUT/Summit Lighthouse was "Mad B's Myth" at 100+ pages [it was refe...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:54 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4990
gerald bryan
btw, I interviewed Gerald Bryan's widow, Olive, in 1982. She said he was a wonderful man, a chiropractor who got caught up briefly with the I AM until he smelled the rats inside the castle. He noted how many spouses were grieved over their mate's breaking up with them because they would not join the...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:42 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4990
email correction
sorry bout that, hidesert
my email is
jszimhart@windstream.net
not dot 'com'
my old email still works as well
jszimhart@dejazzd.com
my email is
jszimhart@windstream.net
not dot 'com'
my old email still works as well
jszimhart@dejazzd.com
- Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:47 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4990
Psychic Dictatorship in America--1940
Psychic Dictatorship in America was published by Gerald Bryan in 1940 under 'Truth Publications'. The book is a collection of a series of monographs or chapters he wrote in the late 1930s to expose the "I AM" Activity cult founded by Guy and Edna Ballard around 1933. It's been out of print...
- Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:59 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Dr Susan Blackmore Changed Her Mind About The Paranormal
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4003
- Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:51 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Dr Susan Blackmore Changed Her Mind About The Paranormal
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4003
women and skeptics
I heard Blackmore lecture a couple of times at Skeptics conferences. She was one of the rare females to speak or attend these conferences that I estimate as 85% or more male dominated. Another interesting factoid is that most New Thought, New Age, psychic and occult religion participants and leaders...
- Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:28 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Ms. Knight's Altered Ego
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5464
self-talking
Channeling has, in my view, always been self-talking. Shirley MacLaine, that paragon of popular enlightened self-talk, was highly influenced by jzramthaisms [they did drink redwine and get sloppy drunk together during those expensive ($1000 a half hr?) private sessions per "Dancing in the Light...
- Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:15 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Ms. Knight's Altered Ego
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5464
illusionist It seems to me you confuse or equate Ramtha w Ms Knight who as far as I can tell remains a 'student' of the big R and as such has not attained enlightenment, so all her foibles, flaws, inabilities to sustain a naturally youthful face, soured relationships, false advertising in Arabian ho...
- Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:14 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: old litigation tactics arise
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3329
old litigation tactics arise
The by now legendary lawsuit Scientology leveled against Time Magazine http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html [CoS lost eventually] set a highwater mark in aggressive cult tactics to silence freedom of press and speech. Here they go again. St Petersburg Times has been report...
- Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:15 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: "David Wants to Fly" film on TM
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3880
"David Wants to Fly" film on TM
Perhaps we will someday have a similar film for a festival re the RSE experience. Title could be " Vinny wants to Void " or something like that ;-) "Posted by Gina at 2/18/2010 03:10:00 PM "David Wants to Fly" is receiving wonderful reviews at the Berlin Film Festival, per l...
- Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:21 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Scientology - !
- Replies: 41
- Views: 30708
ex-co$ speak out at recent conference
By Randy Sly > 2/15/2010 > > Catholic Online (www.catholic.org) > > On Friday, six ex-scientologists spoke out about their experiences inside > the Church of Scientology at a Press Conference in Hollywood. > > > > WASHINGTON, D.C. (Catholic Online) – The airwaves of Los Angeles were > buzzi...
- Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:39 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: disciplines
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7907
flying reindeer
on another thread [scientific test of jz] I posted an example of the protocols that Randi and scientists would require to test a paranormal claim. This also includes the agreement of the psychic to the protocol, of course. I heard Randi lecture once about this protocol. The example he used was the c...
- Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:38 am
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: how to test paranormal
- Replies: 7
- Views: 7769
how to test paranormal
fyi, setting up proper protocol for testing a psychic or for psychic power is not so easy. To psychics the very protocols interfere with their psychic ability---a copout. eg. I've experienced mediums and channels refusing to perform or failing to read my aura because I was in the room or my energy w...
- Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:19 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: disciplines
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7907
Kenny and Debbie seem to think seeing future numbers can make for some good horse racing and roullette +EV gamblings. (as a direct result, in their eyes, from being able to see through the cards). I know over 30 people can now do this. Anyone have a scientific explanation for this? :roll: I'm from ...
- Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:40 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Scientology - !
- Replies: 41
- Views: 30708
Two days after the tragedy, and presenting themselves as an organisation called National Mental Health Assistance, representatives of the Church of Scientology duped Fox News into running the church's freephone number for five hours on the bottom of the screen, apparently in the belief that it was ...
- Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:38 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Scientology - !
- Replies: 41
- Views: 30708
parasites in Haiti
Problems with groups like RSE and CoS are the layers of hidden agendas and the bottom line of failing to deliver anything remotely resembling the promises on their brochures and websites....read on. This UK commentary hits a bullseye in my view. Don't panic Haiti, the Scientologists are coming! For ...
- Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:36 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: social influence study
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3723
social influence study
This new study reinforces social influence theory as well as explaining how the events of The Wave [film based on the 1967 high school experiment gone awry] occured. I think it can help explain why someone "joins" a group like RSE especially after attending a workshop or event AND how one ...
- Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:53 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Ramtha ?virus? spreading?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12525
black sun
This book by Goodrick-Clarke will give you all you need to know re theosophy and Nazism http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_blacksun.htm Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke New York: New York University Press, 2002, 371 pages. ...
- Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:43 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Ramtha ?virus? spreading?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12525
theosophy's anti-semitic bugaboo
RSE in Israel poses a host of problems IF they make the news there. Israel has been tough on "sects" settling there, eg Scientology. Yet some have managed to find limited acceptance [for example the Black Hebrews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites Main article: African H...
- Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:43 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
- Replies: 46
- Views: 28042
Arizona news Jan 12
Sweat-lodge documents reveal chaotic scene Arizona Republic, January 12, 2010 By JJ Hensley The participants in James Ray's fatal sweat lodge outside Sedona describe a chaotic scene and a spiritual leader that was reckless and had admittedly "let his ego get in the way" during prior events...
- Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:17 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: dahn hak yoga 'cult'
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4910
- Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:07 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: dahn hak yoga 'cult'
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4910
dahn hak yoga 'cult'
Steve Hassan and I are quoted in this Jan 2010 Glamour Magazine article:
http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2009/12 ... 0000195005
If you know anyone in it or ex-members, they may be interested
joe
http://www.glamour.com/magazine/2009/12 ... 0000195005
If you know anyone in it or ex-members, they may be interested
joe
- Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:41 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: 400 years of imaginary friends
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5206
a real and good imaginary friend
(CNN) -- A small town in Luxembourg once destroyed by fierce fighting remembers one of the bright moments in the dark of World War II -- a visit from Saint Nick. For Dick Brookins, a U.S. soldier standing in for an absent Saint Nicholas, it was to change his life also and help him find some meaning ...
- Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:17 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: 400 years of imaginary friends
- Replies: 3
- Views: 5206
400 years of imaginary friends
I have permission to send a pdf file to any individual who requests to read the out of print book "400 Years of Imaginary Friends" by Kenneth Paolini and Talita Paolini (2000). This is a self-published personal testimony and historical survey by ex-members of Church Universal and Triumphan...
- Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:24 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: possessed by spook lawsuit
- Replies: 0
- Views: 2891
possessed by spook lawsuit
Rare witchcraft charge laid Fraud Alleged National Post December 11, 2009 Amy Husser, Canwest News Service Police have invoked a rarely used witchcraft charge against a Toronto woman accused of defrauding a lawyer of nearly $150,000 after she reportedly suggested she was possessed by his dead sister...
- Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:57 am
- Forum: Children in RSE
- Topic: Miceal Ledwith
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14793
fox and starhawk
I got curious about Ledwith now that you brought him up, looked over his info on the web. This is from http://www.ramtha.com/teachers/Miceal_Ledwith.asp "The insights of leading-edge science indicate a very different understanding of God and our place and purpose in creation than the ways of th...
- Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:22 pm
- Forum: Children in RSE
- Topic: Miceal Ledwith
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14793
- Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:47 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: How to be a charatan & make millions
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4301
20/20
The 20/20 team visited with me and videotaped me at my home, then in New Mexico, for that piece they did on Ramtha @ 1987. Jud Rose and dave Doss [producer] both told me about the interviews they did with Sandy Fallis and other old friends of JZ. Those former friends were apparently clear about what...
- Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:01 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Many new Masters of Cards?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 23470
slight of hand brainswashing
like magic most brainwashing techniques operate through misdirection. Eg, in boot camps that militaries set up world-wide for new recruits, the apparent reason for the boot camp is for training and fitness as well as instruction in combat, etc. The underlying effect and purpose of all that pressure ...
- Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:58 pm
- Forum: Is RSE a cult ? What is RSE? Its purpose? Post your opinion.
- Topic: blog on ramtha, blog
- Replies: 13
- Views: 11675
- Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:10 am
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
- Replies: 36
- Views: 43872
- Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:55 am
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
- Replies: 36
- Views: 43872
perrenialism
The White Book is a presentation of the perennial philosophy, the perennial Wisdom, caste with a certain mythology around it, but I tried to keep it pure. I tried to keep it, ya know really in accord with what is call ?perennial philosophy?, if you?re familiar with that. There are two issues here t...
- Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:49 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: how do I deal with a partner still in the school?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 16089
Sympathy for the Devil
Great posts enlightenmypocket! Good people in bad cults is an old drama. The Rolling Stones released this song Sympathy for the Devil in 1968. One of the lines goes: Ah, what's puzzling you, Is the nature of my game.... Another goes: But what's confusing you, Is just the nature of my game Any number...
- Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:19 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: hunk ra
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3102
hunk ra
Despite having matured, Boopsie is still easily influenced, and has gotten heavily into new age practices, which B.D. considers absurd. She firmly believes in reincarnation, ESP and channeling. She herself has had a great deal of unintentional success in the latter, and became a vessel for "Hu...
- Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:44 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Banned from Private Messages.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4366
transparency and time
Over the years I have had to gather information on literally hundreds of RSEs. In every case i either purchased the materials outrights from the group or, more likely, after exit-counseling someone from the group, thus building an incredible deep trust, the ex-member would hand over the stuff knowin...
- Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:51 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: obamacare and Christian Science
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4135
my view
If this legistlation passes we will open the gates to a radical change in what we the taxpayers are required to support in medical expenses. "We don't believe there should be hurdles between an individual and spiritual treatment that could be the most important solution to healthcare in this co...
- Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:22 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: obamacare and Christian Science
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4135
obamacare and Christian Science
latimes.com Healthcare provision seeks to embrace prayer treatments A little-noticed measure would put Christian Science healing sessions on the same footing as clinical medicine. Critics say it violates the separation of church and state. By Tom Hamburger and Kim Geiger November 3, 2009 Reporting f...
- Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:27 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
- Replies: 20
- Views: 15264
SG It is not so much an individual reponsibility to remain rational because no way can any one person no matter how smart he or she envisions the self, can be rational about all things in one lifetime. Its a relational thing and about the quailtiy of the relationships. That begins with the family sy...
- Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:01 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
- Replies: 20
- Views: 15264
- Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:38 pm
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Reptilians, Greg's memory loss....the Truth!
- Replies: 20
- Views: 15264
V pilot
You can see the new V pilot here:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/106763/v-pilot
great reptilian alien invasion flick remake of 1983 series. very good.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/106763/v-pilot
great reptilian alien invasion flick remake of 1983 series. very good.
- Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:46 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9015
- Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:26 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9015
- Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:48 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: maria lionza religion in so america
- Replies: 0
- Views: 2984
maria lionza religion in so america
Devotees of the Mar?a Lionza religion, a mix of Catholic, West African and other customs, make a pilgrimage each October to Sorte Mountain in Yaracuy State, Venezuela, home of the high altar to the religion's central figure. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/10/28/world/20091028VENEZ_index.html ...
- Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:59 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
- Replies: 5
- Views: 9015
Knight vs Knight divorce case from 1993
3 Ramtha Pays More [J.Z. Knight, divorce] Spiritualist J.Z. Knight, known as Ramtha, was ordered in March to pay $125,00 in attorney fees and $24,160 in costs to attorneys involved in the divorce settlement case with her ex-husband Jeffrey Knight, who accused the famous "channeler" of coer...
- Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:20 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5406
- Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:15 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
- Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:50 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: William Lobdell -- Losing My Religion
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5406
amazon review
yes see my review on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Religion-Reporting-America-Unexpected/product-reviews/0061626813/ref=cm_cr_pr_link_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addFourStar&pageNumber=2 Cats and the ineffable name, October 18, 2009 By Joe P. Szimhart (Douglassville, PA USA...
- Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:31 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: amway litigation and new book
- Replies: 0
- Views: 2984
amway litigation and new book
http://www.merchantsofdeception.com/ New updated book by former longtime AMWAY leader "The book has been completely edited and updated to include details on class action lawsuits filed against Amway/Quixtar, law enforcement raiding Amway offices in India and The UK Department of Trade and Indus...
- Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:23 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Scientology - !
- Replies: 41
- Views: 30708
paul haggis
Paul Haggis Renounces Church of Scientology in Blistering Letter
http://www.movieline.com/2009/10/paul-h ... p?page=all
http://www.movieline.com/2009/10/paul-h ... p?page=all
- Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:43 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: Wellspring Retreat and Resource Center
- Replies: 4
- Views: 6014
David, Most of the clients I referred or took there in past years were very pleased with the treatment and education they got there. Average stay was 2 - 3 weeks. I heard a few complaints as it is not a good fit for every personality. No place or therapy is. Most they could take at a time was six cl...
- Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:23 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: landmark "training" exposed on french tv
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3219
landmark "training" exposed on french tv
There is a convergence of techniques in almost all 'new age' mass therapy cults. The sweat lodge cult and RSE use similar behaviors as landmark, insight, psi-worold, tony robbins, lifespring, etc. this recent French news program [with English subtitles] is worth viewing: http://www.culthelp.info/ind...
- Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:16 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
- Replies: 46
- Views: 28042
more nytimes
On a conference call Mr. Ray held last week for sweat lodge participants, Dr. Bunn was shocked to hear one recount the comments of a self-described ?channeler? who visited Angel Valley after the retreat. Claiming to have communicated with the dead, the channeler said they had left their bodies in t...
- Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:04 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
- Replies: 46
- Views: 28042
ny times article
She also described a game ? enacted again at the retreat this month ? in which Mr. Ray wears white robes and plays God, ordering some participants to commit mock suicide. For the ?vision quest,? the exercise that required spending 36 hours in the desert without food or water, participants had sleep...
- Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: I, Psychopath Documentary
- Replies: 2
- Views: 4057
God and the temporal lobes
Cat, I watched the i-psychopath documentary. very good, concise. It is important, as the film points out, never to make or impose a diagnosis until the results of scientific or reliable psychological tests are in. I looked at a few more documentaries on that url. I would recommend this one for ex-cu...
- Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:12 am
- Forum: Keith Raniere - NXIVM
- Topic: Mark Vicente RSE - NXIVM' (ESP)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 18456
david, No, I have not exited anyone from the 'ESP' or NXV#*M cult. 3 weekends ago in Denver at the ICSA conference we had a memorial session to talk about Paul Martin. Very moving. He was one of my quiet heroes in this cult business with a meticulous scientific approach as well as having deep empath...
- Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:55 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Frederick Lenz's Cult
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8925
- Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:40 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: elizabeth prophet dies
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4967
elizabeth prophet dies
Published 10.16.2009 Former CUT leader, 70, dies at home By Camden Easterling, Enterprise Writer Elizabeth Clare Prophet, founder and past president of Church Universal and Triumphant, died Thursday of complications from Alzheimer?s disease. She was 70. Prophet died at her home in Bozeman, said Thom...
- Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:39 pm
- Forum: Drug & Alcohol Use at RSE
- Topic: Alcohol's benefits 'exaggerated'
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4283
- Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:32 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
- Replies: 46
- Views: 28042
James Arthur Ray sweat lodge deaths
Deaths at Sweat Lodge Bring Soul-Searching New York Times By JOHN DOUGHERTY October 11, 2009 SEDONA, Ariz. ? Tucked into stunning red rock formations and canyons punctuated with splashes of green junipers, this town of about 11,500 has long been a high-end golf and tennis resort, the choice location...
- Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:22 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Do You Still Pray?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10398
caterpillar I got the book and am 85 pages into it. Lobdell intros his book with a quote from Descartes: If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. The book is an easy read. Nothing hammy or pin-headed so far.
- Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:10 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Do You Still Pray?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10398
losing my religion
Marie, This might be a new thread....but it relates to the pray idea also. I am reacting to your signature. I just got the book "Losing My Religion: How I Lost My Faith reporting in Religion in America--and Found Unexpected Peace" by William Lobdell (48, award winning jounalist). www.willi...
- Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:45 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Do You Still Pray?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10398
- Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:05 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36499
- Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:15 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Do You Still Pray?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10398
scared to sacred
David, et al, After i broke with Mother E C Prophet's cult in 1980, a cult that required an incessant amount of "prayer" called decreeing [hyperspeed chanting] as well as use of New Thought style affirmations and Hindu chants or 'bhajans', and I include Aums or Oms and Buddhist 'Om Mani Pa...
- Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:49 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36499
denver icsa 2009 w hassan
I am on my way home after 2+ days of a conference put on by ICSA mainly for a limited venue--maybe 80 people inclunding many mental health pros w PhDs atended. Good conference,. S Hassan gave a talk on his take on altered states and hypnosis. I spent some time talking with him personally, catching u...
- Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:37 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: The Guru Scene
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7972
decades ago I learned how to cast horoscopes and do astrological readings. I had readings by some famous, published astrologers as well as by just average ones that charge reasonable prices. I'll admit it--I was a quaisi-believer in the art back then but the quasi soon won out over the believer and ...
- Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:27 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: The Guru Scene
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7972
horse of a different color
"To know things about yourself you could never see changes one's life in unimaginable ways," - Private Session participant I have no idea what that quote means. But I hear the same [almost exact] statement from people who see 2-bit astrologers. Could there be a connection? 8) These privat...
- Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:00 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Another cult leader's opinion of JZ
- Replies: 18
- Views: 13933
Interesting stuff on rajneesh/osho. There is still a huge market for Esalen-like workshops and that is basically what the Osho center in Pune, India offers now. By the time I came across them, his books did not impress me. Back in the day, I exit counseled a number of his sannyasins successfully but...
- Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:31 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Video MRI scans on psychopaths
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5850
check out the latest SPECT brain scan this center uses to help treat addictions and mental illness. I've worked with people who have been to this treatment impressive center in AZ, Sierra Tucson. http://www.sierratucson.com/therapies_trtmnetmod.php I do not agree with all the treatment modalities th...
- Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:53 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Movie - Bloodline
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6518
rottontomatoes
Here's a review I can agree with. But one question we all must ask isn this: If the Society for Biblical Literature and academics who study this stuff scientifically have not come up with evidence, why would you believe a sensational film maker? Bigfoot in mouth :lol: http://variagate.com/film08-2.h...
- Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:31 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Movie - Bloodline
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6518
hoax history
bloodline claims that the lineage of the priory of Sion exists. Not.... in my view. I reviewed the Da Vinci Code for several publications and looked into this then: http://icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_davincicode.htm my words: "The novel claims that Leonardo Da Vinci was a Grand Mast...
- Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:50 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: mcgee
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9558
not within
"the power is within me." I find that exactly the message of Christ. ".... Which Christ is that? Certainly all the channeled New Agey Christs parrot the within routine ad nauseum, but is that what the Gospel tradition says? My answer has nothing to do with whether one is a Christian b...
- Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:00 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Meditative/Trance state may be HARMFUL
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4934
cat this is an excellent reference. Both science and common sense experience tell us that overloading any of the senses causes a disruption in brain fundtrion, therefore perception. eg, listening to rythmic drumming for many minutes will induce trance in most people to soe degree. Once in teance the...
- Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:56 am
- Forum: The so called Scientific Study on JZ Knight-Ramtha
- Topic: The Ramtha Phenomenon-Geomagnetic Data- British Library
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9766
- Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:33 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: These Red Flags woke me up
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5750
- Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:38 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: religion and schizotypal traits
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3058
religion and schizotypal traits
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/06/06/ev ... ion-s.html
This lecture [long, fast paced] by a Stanford professor is good for stimulating discussion and thoughts about why rituals and and odd religious beliefs occur
This lecture [long, fast paced] by a Stanford professor is good for stimulating discussion and thoughts about why rituals and and odd religious beliefs occur
- Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:05 am
- Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
- Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9816
- Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:01 pm
- Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
- Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9816
- Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:19 am
- Forum: Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight
- Topic: science of mind & jz 2006
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9816
science of mind & jz 2006
earlier today I went to a metaphysical fair or Annual Holistic & Spiritual Expo. It was in a Fire Company hall. I paid a $5 entry fee for the privelege of visiting perhaps a hundred exhibits. beyond the usual psychic readers, massage folks, reiki masters, and crystal healers there were pet psych...
- Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:01 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: moved from Leaving RSE: the Aftermath-Leaving RSE and New..
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9810
good point littlewisewoman people with anti-social personality disorder see no right or wrong in their actions but are clever enough to lie or to hide when necessary to protect their own a$$. it is my personal experience on numerous occasions which offer me the 'proof' that matters to me. This fail ...
- Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:52 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Scientology - !
- Replies: 41
- Views: 30708
sailor boy has hissy fits
If ramtha was really a man, things could be worse! Scientology: The Truth Rundown, Part 1 of 3 in a special report on the Church of Scientology St. Petersburg Times Sunday, June 21, 2009 By Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin, Times Staff Writers Part ONE of THREE The leader of the Church of Scientology ...
- Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:55 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Snapping:America?s Epidemic of Sudden Personality Change
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7324
Snapping first came in @1979. It was one of the few books out with critical updated info on cults at the time. I know it helped me to get a grip on what happened to me in Prophet's cult. A flaw in Snapping and the newer edition [that now includes Ramtha] is the limited and somewhat skewed demographi...
- Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:52 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: ?Cults and New Religions? book includes RSE
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6717
caution yellow light
If you buy this book be aware that it will reflect Melton's view and not mine or Jeff Knight's for example. ...we are not listed in the index. This book looks like a patched together text for new students in religious studies. There will be nothing in the book that the authors might be sued ofr, thu...
- Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:23 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: EVIDENCE
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6179
litigation re cults
caterpillar Ford Greene was successful with the Molko case but that case also was a setback for expert witnesses. The anit-anticult crowd gathered to counter Dr Margaret Singer's theory of brainwashing and "coercive persuasion" as unscientific and won. She was not allowed to testify and it...
- Thu May 28, 2009 3:50 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: JZ competitor from the past
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7776
- Wed May 27, 2009 6:28 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: wisewoman posted..Liquid Zeolite is an effective Chelation a
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8633
Zeolite marketers ordered to stop illegal claims. The FDA has ordered Zeo Health Ltd to stop illegal claims for three zeolite-containing mineral products: Destroxin (cancer prevention and treatment), Esdifan (diarrhea) and Zeo (hangover preventive). The warning letter noted that the company's Web si...
- Sun May 17, 2009 9:58 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: OH NO! JZ is back on Larry King
- Replies: 16
- Views: 8595
my wife called me while I was at work to tell me that vanpraaaag, jz and another was on LK. she saw a later broadcast. She said she watched ten minutes but turned it off---waste of her time. She did mention that jz looked 'botox'ed. What ever happened to growing old gracefully? Thank God for the Mot...
- Sat May 16, 2009 10:46 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: OH NO! JZ is back on Larry King
- Replies: 16
- Views: 8595
ratings
LK's producers arrange to have psychics and other New Age curiosities now and then because a certain demographic audience eats this stuff up. Van Praagh has been on before. LK also has had as guests Elizabeth Prophet, Fred "Zen Master Rama" Lenz 2x and a host of other bizarre cult leaders....
- Mon May 11, 2009 3:49 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Evaluating Guidance
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7538
cayce cayce on the wall
AD You are correct, I have no repect for Edgar Cayce's channelings yet I understand why others feel his "truth is within" illusion is not an illusion but very real. Cayce says: ?For truth is a growing experience in the hearts and the minds of individuals as they apply those tenets of the l...
- Mon May 11, 2009 3:35 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: legal fine for infiltration of raelians
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3185
legal fine for infiltration of raelians
Sun Media Corporation and the "Journal de Montr?al" fined $10,000 for invasion of privacy of Raelians MONTREAL, May 11 /CNW Telbec/ - The Court of Quebec found Sun Media and the "Journal de Montr?al" guilty for invasion of privacy of two Raelians, one of which is a priest. Sun Me...
- Wed May 06, 2009 6:57 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
AD I follow your logic. That line of argument is obvious and common but it is also a false analogy to compare the myths and miracle stories of a Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, or Jesus to those claimed by modern day mystics and gurus who can submit to real tests, video taping and so on to prove their pow...
- Mon May 04, 2009 5:03 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
- Sat May 02, 2009 5:41 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: "The Brotherhood" an Australian Documentary
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3424
no, can't recall this one. caterpillar mentioned them to me a bit ago. I would like to see the video. There were many many communal experiments in the sixties and seventies, but most flopped within a few years. In hindsight nearly all of them developed cultlike symptoms. Poor managing skills tend to...
- Fri May 01, 2009 7:03 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
This book by David Bruton on Spalding must be read with care as to the author's pov. Although I could easily ferret out what was factual there is an element of the occult and spiritualism in it. The author makes no claim to pursuing clairvoyance or psi but he was apparently a spiritualist who had ma...
- Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:15 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
- Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:19 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
spalding
PS: The Bruton book offers a good bit of personal insight into Spalding's relationship with his publisher Douglas DeVorss. Bruton and DeVorss interacted personally to settle the Spalding estate. What is of interest is that DeVorss seemed to be manipulating Spalding and nthe legend around him all alo...
- Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:59 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: baird spalding as I knew him
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13854
baird spalding as I knew him
Just read a short book, Baird T Spalding As I Knew Him by David Bruton (1954). The author gives us a very friendly but realistic picture of Spalding without buying into his fantasies. The book exposes Spalding as a con-artist who nevertheless did not exploit his devotees--iow, he never started a cul...
- Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:41 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: ..Supernormal powers..
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3871
- Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Skepticism and concern
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5825
- Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:37 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Skepticism and concern
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5825
- Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:37 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: list of channels
- Replies: 0
- Views: 3362
list of channels
An entire procession of cults and obscure religious sects has followed Blavatsky's lead, copying their doctrines from her and from one another while simultaneously denying their true sources and instead attributing their second- and third-hand revelations to further contact with the Hidden Masters ...
- Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:30 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: unbound
- Replies: 55
- Views: 30907
- Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:07 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: unbound
- Replies: 55
- Views: 30907
us vs ballard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Ballard This case regarding the I AM Activty that started in 1940 set the standard for all subsequent legal cases against "religions" or spiritual movements. Jay is correct that the US courts cannot convict a cult leader of fraud no matter how ...
- Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:32 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: unbound
- Replies: 55
- Views: 30907
conned, tricked, cheated, brainwashed
Unbound and others. This is a good thread for sorting out, iow, "naming" what happened. Here are some thoughts to consider. I have tended to look at the idea of cult influence as a kind of social disease that causes psychological symptoms. We can better treat and recover from a disease whe...
- Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:08 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: What is ASTARA?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8655
- Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:56 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: What is ASTARA?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8655
ruth "walkin"
G2G You are digging into the deeper layers of the new age compost heap 8) Ruth Montgomery was a journalist turned New Age/occult author/psychic based on her belief that she had intimate contact with 'aliens', esp one called Lily [a male entity]. Her alien contacts endorsed Frederick von Meiers [aka ...
- Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:41 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: What is ASTARA?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8655
I had a file on Astara many years ago. I looked on wiki to jog my memory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astara,_Inc. I think of it in the category of an 'I AM-lite' new age group, kind of like most small New Thought groups or the Unarius Society. The 22 lessons they offer is in the same category as I ...
- Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:20 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: MENTAL HEALTH OF EX-MEMBERS of ?cults?in the short and long
- Replies: 8
- Views: 9730
- Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:40 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9801
- Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:18 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
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- Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:21 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Cult Video: Holy Smoke
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- Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:30 pm
- Forum: Tips, Links and Book Reviews
- Topic: Ramtha The White Book - Steven Weinberg Speaks Out
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Oliver vs Ballard's St Germain Fdn etc
A writer just tipped me off to this: The following is case law re copyrights of books purportedly from 'celestial' or metaphysical sources. The lawsuit by Urantia Foundation includes mention of a similar suit brought by the family of the author of Dweller on Two Planets by 'Phylos the Thibetan'. Thi...
- Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:10 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: I'm new, greetings to you
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So let me explain that: I think when you learn how it works, you come to a junction in your life, and that both ways lead to the same point, only one of them is shorter than the other one. So, you can have the selfish way or the compassionate and love your enviroment way, and have the same things a...
- Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:24 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36499
- Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: passing this along ...
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traveller in space
Traveller in Space: In Search of Female Identity in Tibetan Buddhism. June Campbell. George Braziller, New York, 1996, 240 pages. Review by Joe Szimhart, 1997 Anyone who has followed the recent histories of Zen and Tibetan Buddhist teachers with Western devotees knows that, too often, these same tea...
- Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:17 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
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barack to the beginning of this thread
I finally had time to look over the entire 67 pages article quoted from that began this interesting thread---- http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_His_Speeches.pdf Disclaimer: I voted for McCain, do not feel Obama was or is ready to preside over America. Nevert...
- Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:00 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36499
journeythroughramthaland thanks for trying to get this thread back on the rails :-? I dislike getting into personal disputes on these forums but Tree, that last post was harsh, schoolyard 'tit for tat' stuff. It belongs in another venue. maybe y'all can start another thread or keep it off EMF as Dav...
- Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:39 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Neuro linguistic Programming (NLP) in RSE
- Replies: 69
- Views: 36499
- Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:14 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: govt. mind control?
- Replies: 2
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