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Sad Grandfather: I just read your story on another post - about your illness and that of your wife, and how your daughter said, presumably coming from a place of wisdom learned at RSE, that you created them. I shed a couple of tears and gave a prayer of thanks to some nameless Higher Power that I di...

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Hi WofthesunEastofthemoon and Another Dimension 60 Well, there are so many groups, prophets and seers to explore and few of them stand up to intense scrutiny in every respect. Neither, for that matter, do organized religions. For example, take Christian religious holidays. Almost without exception, ...

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Hi Another Dimension 60. True, many of these people were completely sincere. Edgar Cayce could diagnose strangers by "remote" and prescribe holistic and sometimes peculiar remedies. Strangely, many of them worked. Also, such services performed by him were offered free of charge. Mary Baker...

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I sincerely hope each of you have your family members restored to you fully. I don't believe any group can stop people from loving one another, although sometimes it may appear from their behaviour that they have. And, Sad Grandfather, I don't know how young your grandchildren are, but I suspect tha...

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Hi WofthesunEofthemoon: Amusing lymeric. If by New Age is meant introducing Hindu and Eastern Esoteric concepts to the West, then I suppose Madame Blavatsky did that. I had older family members who were fascinated with Theosophy and Spiritism, and I guess I myself have shown an interest. I have, tho...

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Their Furrinesses, lol. In an effort to reassure and subsequent research, I have stumbled on a vast array of conspiracy theories, predictions, prophets, etc. I don't like to think of people living in fear, particularly when it seems as though there is an agenda behind the raising of fear spectors in...

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I hear you, Duk, about wanting a normal life I bought the book on Orbs, and it is beautiful photography...I suspect though that if you asked people at RSE whether they have actually seen an orb, you would hear that either they have actually seen one, in which case there could be something wrong with...

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I wondered if this was someone I had heard of in RSE. The challenge is to RSE - If someone in RSE can discern from reading this individual's posts on EMF who the poster is, using the disciplines or skills learned in RSE, they will receive $100.00, and will have proved the validity of the teachings t...

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Thanks David. And, Freemysoul, I can only repeat, I am sorry you were offended. I was not criticizing you. My questions were perhaps to be taken as critical of RSE. I love my friend. My friend is current. I try to hope for and look for the best possible outcome for him. I worry about him. That is my...

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Freesoul I was not presuming or condescending; if I were those things I would not be asking questions. True, I was not involved, but I did research the school thoroughly, and I have spent enough time on this board to have a clue about what goes on there. And my friend in RSE radiates the teachings -...

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Hi Freesoul: I have a dear one in RSE, but I have never participated, although at one point I was about to - what prevented me, in part, was that I could not tolerate the thought of turning my back on family and friends. I reasoned that no one should have to make that choice, or pay so much money, i...

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This is what I have come to expect, Ex, but I wanted to hear from real current students, lol.

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I have never been a participant at RSE, just know a couple of people who have been or are current. I have a few questions for current students who may happen to read these threads, for whatever reason. By focusing in RSE or dutifully performing disciplines, is it possible that you are tuning out the...

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Reading through this thread, I kept thinking about Ingo Swann, a test subject of CIA PSI experiments for many years. He did remarkable things, it appears, that might have more practical use than being able to see through playing cards by memorizing their backs. In the 70s he did some research with a...

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Looking through "TDTC" prophesies from other sources on Religious Tolerance.org - a great source of impartial information - I came accross this page, listing many many future disaster predictions from all over the world, from many different groups and faiths. They never happened, and some ...

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Hi freemysoul: Well, for starters, how many of the predictions are the result of spotting current trends and extrapolating from them? I have lived through, with someone I care for who is in RSE, the sense that "the end is nigh", fueled further by each new prophecy of impending doom...and o...

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HI WofthesunEofthemoon. Yes, I picked up a copy of The Prophet when I was seventeen, and have always liked it; that was, er, a while back. In the sixties, people used passages from it as part of their wedding vows. And, it's good to focus on positive things like friendship. And, though you pay for a...

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IMO:

Lothar is offering for free what students suffer to pay for. And even if that offering appears to be from a Ramthalike perspective, pretty New Age, still, I appreciate that it was meant as a gift. So, blessings to Lothar.

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Dear Sad Grandfather: Sorry to have implied that I believe in the existence of Ramtha; I know that must be irritating to people here. And maybe my comment belongs on the "Days to Come" thread. I was never a student; I just know one that I care about. It is interesting what you say, that al...

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In my death experience, I was immediately surrounded by brilliant crystal light, so I don't believe that was something about which I had a choice; I do think that in my perception of it, I had a choice about whether to return to my earthly body and try to live. Reading up on experiences of death fro...

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The former students on this site are mostly nice people, I've noticed, so therefore, I concluded the "niceness" is not a barrier to having your will taken and your brain "washed"...I was never a student, but got involved by falling for a Ramster, who has been involved in RSE for ...

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Journey and Tree: Trying to understand - so, Ramtha is a "reincarnated" entity - but JZ's body is not Ramtha's, it's "borrowed" or shared - and that is not quite the same thing as a specific entity being born again in a new body all it's own. Similar to theories about "jump ...

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I think there are two separate topics here - past life regression as therapy, yes, does involve hypnosis, but that is not the same as dissasociation, which to me appears to mean an out of body experience - or entering an altered state of consciousness, whereas hypnosis in a therapeutic setting is de...

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Dear Journey: I quite see your point - for the ex-student, anything that smacks of dissasociation/spiritism or departs from rational, concrete thought and reasonable, fact based undertakings is perhaps dangerous - I was careless of that fact, I suppose, not being an ex-student. I am, instead, somebo...

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I see no reason to discount the possibility of reincarnation, just as I attempt to keep an open mind about the tenets of other people's cherished beliefs or religions as a general rule - and, just because some possibly "alternative" or "out there" people are, as you point out Joe...

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It's like Mayor Juliani said after 9/11 - if you let such thoughts paralyze you or control your life, "they" win. I was apalled when my RSE friend shared his belief that the next three to four years would be such a horrible time for the World that we would all need to go UG in UGs, stockpi...

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Am not involved personally either, but have a friend and some former acquaintances who are or have been involved... Would say that, for a celebrity, it is exposure to a wider audience. What you said about not taking responsibility strikes a chord with me. I think my friend is a good, decent and hono...

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Watcha...OOOOOH! say it isn't so! A pretend phallus????? And, Joe, you may have a point, but if you look at some older religions, there is the cult of the Mother Goddess, and half of the ancient Babylonian, Greek and Roman Gods, and many of the Hindu Godheads, were female...(and in early Judaism, th...

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I read with interest about the Raelians...but think their is a lot more that could be said about them...I didn't get a very clear picture from either of the articles. I am going to surf for info. And it's other Christian denominations that appear to me to be the most anti-Catholic...your average Chr...

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I was not acutally abused by my parents, who meant well but were themselves recovering from various traumas...always felt that they did the best they could...I was abused by people other than my parents. And, I see them not as vicous monster perpetrators, but as victims themselves, who lashed out so...

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I mean, THAN taking tai chi - my grammar is going to the dogs, lol

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Well, I am wondering if you are for or against the breathing exercises and meditation as practiced by this guru in a non-religious, spiritual context...on the surface it does not strike me as any more "way out" or alternative as taking tai chi...

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Disclaimer to my last comments
...however, I have not carried over a pattern of hurting my child, or anyone else, as Dr. Farber suggests - I meant the part about trying to meet others' needs at the expense of your own, the self denial thing...

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I kind of saw myself in the book by Alice Miller - painful, a bit, to see yourself described - but, on the other hand, I must disagree with some of her findings as too general - for example, my siblings had the same parents, but they do not have the same problems (perhaps you might say we all have p...

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Perhaps "valid" was the wrong word to use with ex-Ramsters...I did not join RSE, just explored the teachings...so I have perhaps no right to use the word valid, except that I have a philosophy which tells me that, so long as you are learning SOMETHING, it's valid, because I think we are he...

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Oldone, you really crack me up, you have such a way of putting things.

And as I said on the old forum, the whole concept of the UG sounds more like building a tomb - like pyramids in ancient Egypt - than it sounds like any kind of survival strategy. Especially if there's no food!!!!

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Watcha...yes, as we learned in Health class, FEAR SELLS...and , instead of learning to do positive things for ourselves, or being informed about how things could improve, instead, we learn new ways that the world sucks, we are inadequate, and we'd better buy X.....or we will suffer. We learn new thi...

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California Dreaming: Always think it seems a shame that, upon leaving the school, one has to count the whole experience as a waste of time...or, tell your family you "make a big goof"...it was a part of your life, and surely is still part of who you are, and we are all here to learn. I hav...

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I was offended at times by Tyger, but at the same time I saw him as a potential ally in some respects, especially when he stuck to the topic at hand...some of his comments on other topics which really had little or nothing to do with anything even vaguely touching on RSE were entertaining, and some ...

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My major depression was pre-Prozac, but I don't think I can emphasize enough how much I agree with this quote: "Clinical Worsening and Suicide Risk - Patients with major depressive disorder (MDD), both adult and pediatric, may experience worsening of their depression and/or the emergence of sui...

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Yes, I believe such things are possible... It's funny how misunderstandings can arise around such things.. While researching, I came accross the "psychic keys test" and the "Zenner cards test"...the later was used in CIA experiments, they were trying to counter so-called "Ea...

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Always considered myself a sensible woman, but I have had experiences which make me question whether the skeptics are entirely correct in their view of things. There are links I could place here that would shock some...however, since this forum is designed to wean people away from belief in the para...

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Yes, well, it appears that the breathing exercises release endorphins/natural opiates...sort of like the thing kids are doing where you place your yead lower than you waist, and get a rush just before you pass out. But still, I think natural opiates are better than man made ones...just my opinion. I...

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Wish you all the best in all of your future endeavours too...life is before you, enjoy it.

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I struggle, myself, with chronic pain, but, pain relievers make you stoned - a state I do not enjoy. I read a really good book: "Laughter is the Best Medicine"....vvvv helpful. Or, if you are in the mood, you could check out the "Laughing Yogi" on YouTube...this guy in India gets...

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Dear Marie: That breathing sounds a lot like the type I learned in prenatal class...it was intended to control pain, and avoid the need for anesthetics during labour (potentially harmful to the baby) - maybe that is the purppose of the discipline, to avoid the need for pain medication. You have said...

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:? here in Toronto, trying to spot the RSE members is vvvvvv challenging!!!! I'm afraid they just blend right in with the ordinary citizens, lol. This city, is Holywood North, you never know when you may be sitting next to Elvis or a reasonable facsimile of him!!!! Well, I still hope they had a good...

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:(
my ex and I got fired on the same day, he is being evicted, Dad is dead, I had a concussion, I think I have arthritis, blah blah blah, and so on....

starting to feel a little better...what's the latest on the fault near Yelm????

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Starting to think I'd rather be in Yelm, than here.

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well, I like art, I have canvases, brushes, but have not gotten started....also, I make beads, and jewellery...I like to play the recorder. I also enjoy arranging furniture in a "Feng Shui" manner. I like to sing. And belly dance. I like to write. That is about it, at this point, but every...

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Thanks Watcha... My options are too plentiful,,. however, now that I live alone, no hubby, no daughter except odd weekends, I could potentially work three jobs, and enjoy them, instead of one job that started to endanger my health. I might even get rich, who knows. not that that is the most importan...

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Blessings on your business with your family...hope it goes well. I just got fired...probably a good thing, the situation became intollerable. Taking a week off, then looking for work. Considering my options. Probably should see a medical professional, but not sure which kind, maybe a naturopath. Tak...

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strange, many people I know are horribly sick as well... wondering how long the event was. I haven't been near anybody, after suffering a wipeout and a concussion, maybe that's why I have not had other illnesses. :o However, it's good to know that people are "allowed" to seek medical atten...

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Seasons greetings to you too. Thankfully have recovered from major concussion...take care.

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"There are so many ways in which subjective bias distorts and twists information. Because decisions are flawed and basically irrational it is only through the assiduous exercise of human reason that positive outcomes can be produced." I see....I create my own reality, lol...and I'm not gen...

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Dear FreeNow: This story rings a lot of bells... My former neighbour, whom I shall call Anna (not her name) had a very similar experience with respect to her grandmother..and two aunts, who basically took all the poor woman's money, stuck her in a home, took the TV set that Anna and her Mom gave the...

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:lol: well said, Voidgate, all... I have been searching for this little sketch from a comedic gramophone record my family had... About THE END OF THE WORLD... The End of the World From the revue that really launched the 'satire' boom, the 1961 Beyond The Fringe. The cast: Peter Cook, Jonathan Miller...

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Taken from the net, here is a list of bogus pharmacies... Please check out the Xanax board to see more details regarding these pharmaices Many pepole have been ripped off . Online Pharmacies: Prescription-drugs.us RxBest.com BestBrandRx.com Ladies-Rx.com RxDrugsMd.com 1Medicine.us Man-Helath.com MDz...

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Having studied a little bit about Business and Management, I have to control myself when I hear some of the stories on here. I notice, the school has a pr person, a publicity person or two, a controller, lawyers.... WHERE ARE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE? Somebody should compel RSE to give value for ...

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On CP 24, there was a 30 second news item about the picket. Over a hundred people showed up as masked (some gas masked) Anonymous members, there probably would have been more, but for the cold weather alert...coldenst day so far this winter. I only went outside for ten minutes to walk the dog a coup...

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Well, I think that the unpleasant posts from current Ramsters on the old forum were more than some people could bear. Also, Tree said a couple of times that it might be more healing for her not to focus so much on RSE, as it was too recent. I think the new forum has good things about it too, though....

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Well, I think that Ms. Miscavige has every right to speak out about her personal experience. More power to her. I see a huge difference between that and the actions of Anonymous. Their picket is planned for tomorrow, two blocks from where I work. I will not be going anywhere near there...though, wha...

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Reading the blurb about Story Waters, he was a fan of Mafu. However, he appears to believe he is channeling himself. You can see him speaking on You Tube...as himself. I have yet to join a coercive group of any sort...so, I am not worried about exploring...but, I see your point, it can be hazardous ...

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I do not advocate for anybody joining ARE, just wanted a balanced picture to be presented... Joe, that is interesting, about your wife's journey. Never heard of Maxine or the tape. My personal thought is that, anytime anything is discovered or dug up, a whole host of "experts" or "res...

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I was not meaning to be argumentative either. I think, yes, there is a cult around Edgar Cayce. I just don't think it is destructive, or dangerous. My sister is one of my best friends, and I have observed the effects of her involvement in ARE over the last 8 years, most of which are positive, and no...

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There is a prayer group praying for you and your wife.
Take care.

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Not clear on the precise definition of religion. Or, "cult". We could call RSE and CSO schools of thought, communities where common beliefs are taught...certainly, money flows upstream, and I could say both orgs. are businesses. But so are Churches, most charitable foundations and orgs, sc...

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Ignatious, hello. I don't know much except what I have read here, but it has been suggested that actually, JZ is engaging more with the senior students, less with the junior ones, and actually, I don't think she engages all that much with people outside of RSE (though, I hope that she is not so isol...

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Dr. Reagan, the "person" who came to see Edgar Cayce as being demonically posessed, is a well-respected, highly educated Christian Evangelist, who has written a number of books himself... Without passigng judgment on Mr. Reagan or his ministry, I will say that he believes that the rapturin...

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quoting from that link... Today such an individual would not last a week, as the medical authorities would shut him down in a New York minute, but in those simpler times, and with his excellent record, Cayce was able to operate pretty much without restraint True, the medical authorities would shut h...

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Also, I think this will solidify the Church's hold over their followers, and public sympathy seems split, in spite of all that honking..."we do not forgive, we do not forget"...doesn't sound like something one of my friends would be likely to say. I'm sorry, but it makes it all seem like a...

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Was that you who showed up at the "honk if you hate scientology picket", wise? Look, I am not defending or accusing anyone...but what I really think is that Anonymous are going about things in a manner that is likely to blow up in their faces...and on principle, I think hackers are a pest....

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Well, okay, but Whatcha, my personal belief is that there is no devil.

I have up close and personal knowledge about Edgar Cayce - my Sister is a member of ARE...however, this has not hurt her life at all, or damaged her values or her family relationships.

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More quotes - note the mention of zen archery: Cayce?s idealism is comparable to the Zen archer in the book Zen in the Art of Archery, by Eugen Herrigel. This Zen archer could hit the bull's-eye of a target from sixty feet in total darkness by ?becoming one with the target.? Both the archer and Cayc...

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Edgar Cayce on Channeling your higher self: (from a book review) Chapter 1 What Is Channeling? One of the important theses in this book is that the common idea of channeling, as an experience in which one completely loses oneself to a separate entity being channeled (aka "trance channeling"...

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Great stuff, checking out those books soon. About Edgar Case...he had many new age beliefs, and also, he made future prophesies and analyzed dreams, etc...but, he attributed his powers (remote medical diagnosis and treatment recomendations for strangers) to God. I know someone who swears she healed ...

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Well, because I am too busy watching the political parties here, lol.
And, don't tempt me, you may guess where I wuld move and why.

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Dear Joe: I wonder if it is the same Lee Harris who is now partner to Story Waters, another channel? This is the website where I've heard of Lee Harris - http://www.limitlessness.com/ And, I actually like what Story Waters has to say, and might buy one of his books...but, don't worry, I've read lots...

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Finally, a view on the subject that makes sense...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L02JS4dRlw&NR=1

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I had never heard of Ron Paul before, Watcha, but now that I've checked him out, if I was voting in the States, he could be the one non-Democrat that grabbed my vote.

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LEEMAR - :lol: :lol: :lol: But, you should have heard some of the conversations at my house! -Blah blah blah Quazar blah blah Quark blah blah particular phospherescence blah blah blah isocelese blah blah AI blah blah... -Excuse me, can I say something???? There's something burning on the stove...

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Well, then the sum would be statistically significantly less than zero! Reminds me, if you will pardon the expression, of War. Casualties of war are measured as a single loss...but each life touches so many others, that really, the tally for any campaign or exercise of that nature is much much higher.

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So there, Tyger got his money's worth (zip)...
Maybe a better question is...what have you lost??????

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:roll: Well George...that is certainly a fair question, but the question is placed in the wrong forum...people who feel they have GAINED from their time at RSE, would be unlikely to visit this forum, or, should they happen to visit this forum, would be unlikely to consider it sensible or appropriate...

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RSE has sponsored their own school...kids learn physics, and levitation. Don't suppose it is really such a bad school, five year olds who can draw maps of the brain, doesn't sound like a menace to society to me.

I also am curious about how RSE kids fit in at regular schools...

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Well, I don't know that...it's like people always say to RSE outsiders...you wouldn't know, unless you'd been there... Still, I live in more fear of Anonymous than I do of Scientology. Just watched a Fox News blurb on Anonymous...strange, was unable to paste that link here, shortly after I viewed it...

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Aw, Tigger, you were doing splendidly until this part - "Even dedicated New Age bimbo's like Linda Evans split the Funny Farm eventually. (The wrinkled old [edit] actually accused me once of "stalking" her granny rump, if you can believe that...)" A "bimbo" is usually y...

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Your welcome, hon

from silly songs:

"Oh you can't rollerskate in a buffallo herd, you can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd, you can't rollerskate in a buffallo herd, but you can be happy if you have a mind to it..."

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FreeNow...you have a beautiful spirit.
That news piece made me feel badly for all concerned.

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Well, my answer to that is, upon reading the transcript, apart from the part about Jesus fitting a pattern set forth of old, (to which I could say, yes, his coming was foretold for centuries before he appeared, but, all of those previous "saviours" were GODS, whereas, Jesus was a man), whe...

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You could view is as - "realigning your vocabulary after too much TV, or too many courses in, say, Chemistry, Law or Engineering, or Psychology, or even, basket making or weaving"...there are few social groups I can think of that don't adopt their own Lingo. I think you all, as a family, n...

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Actually, the agenda was probably to turn us all into secular humanists...oooh, the evil....or even, skeptics!!! Or, sci fi nerds who dress up as quazars and attend conventions...dunno. I bet that could be called a cult - sci fi, "cons", virtual reality, future prognostications based on re...

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And, in the case of Scientology, it would really be great if that confidentiality were a two way street, and the auditor would sign an agreement that nothing about their client that they learned in session could ever be made public or used to discredit the person? Wouldn't it be great if RSE also ad...

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I would say, when it comes to any organization where there is a lack of transparency, that at their root, we could say that profit is the motive - you have to pay to play, and, it's not a package deal, you can't then turn around and share "the product", whatever it is, with all and sundry,...

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Joe:

I HAVE A DREAM!! Martin Luther King Jr.

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to give a balanced picture, here is a less negatively biased description of Scientology:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol1.htm

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Maybe the energizer bunny is involved. It just keeps going, and going and going...and, that's a COPPER TOPPED battery...tell Astro.

But remember, the Prime Directive in Star Wars - "Don't interfere".

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More from the Wikipedia article on Gene Roddenberry - "Although he had been reared as a Southern Baptist, Roddenberry did not embrace the faith of his parents, coming to blame organized religions for many wars and much suffering in human history.[citation needed] Instead, he became a secular hu...

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George, if you got fired from the Jestsons because of Judy's defection, and Elroy's AM problem, maybe you could have been hired on Star Trek...If so, which character would you be? I think all the characters on Star Trek represent facets of the human condition. So, George, are you a Spock most of the...

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"This article appeared in PARANOIA MAGAZINE, Vol4 No.4, Issue 14, Fall 1996." That speaks to me, at least. I did think that article was witty and funny. Mr. Smith, who I don't know much about, would appear to be a conspiracy theorist... And, I always liked Star Trek...which I see as a rath...

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Littlewiseone, FreeNow...
If you have time, and you are curious about Scientology, this essay by a former member is probably worth a read, though it is very long.
http://carolineletkeman.org/sp/index.ph ... &Itemid=92

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Free Now, yes it should. I the great god Lost in Space now make it thusly

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Well, littlewiseone, that is certainly food for thought. First thing that occured to me was - "What????" I bet TCOS, among their 10 Million followers, have some hackers of their own - HACKERS WARS OF THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY - but this could ruin the net for the uninvolved. I don't know th...

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:( Your description sounds all too real, Wolfman...I remember crawling through the tubes at a McDonald's playland, when my daughter was little and she got stuck - and feeling the vibes in just that way - but the vibes of kids are way more comfortable than those of adults, and I was only "in the...

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Leemar...LOL, lol. Well, my family is sort of the opposite way, they are mostly scientists, (including my supposedly impressionable teenage daughter) and those that I asked to watch it with me said, after about five minutes, in fact, shortly after the opening credits, "um, could we watch someth...

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Those reviews are hilarious...but seem to have had the opposite effect from what was intended - maybe it's a case of "gee, that reviewer doesn't like any of the movies I like, so this newly reviewed movie might be something I'd like"... This is a quote from the website of the first link yo...

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Dear Marie: That's terrible, about your sister, but sounds llike she is relatively young and stands a pretty good chance of making it. Will light a candle and focus, yes, really, focus on her greatest good (have not trained at the ranch, have my own means of focusing - call it prayer). Up to a point...

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Aww, cummon Watcha, I dare you! 8) But, just as it's hard now to distinguish people who used to be "flower children" from those who were more conventional back when, among those kids who played "Drastic" (that was what we called our little game) that I know about now, most of the...

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Dear Whatchamacallit: The whole idea of the "tank" really creeps me out in a strange way - that's because when I was a kid, we would go down the basement to the reckroom, turn off all the lights (it was pitch) and, having designed our own labyrinth out of chairs, blankets, furniture, and t...

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Don't worry be happy. I found this link - I don't know anything about this man, Mr. Neale, I think he may be a Christian, but what he says about the days to come is quite comforting, really, and it is a response to an RSE student who says she has responded to the DTC predictions with fear - nobody s...

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Well, I enjoy the Zitchin books - but other language scholars have suggested that Mr. Zitchin's translations are off - he uses some creativity in the interpretation of Ancient Sumerian... Yeah, there are lots of other sources. Most of them have already been proved wrong, at least in terms of the tim...

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Dear G2G: Why don't current student manifest biodegradeable diapers???? That would really do something for the environment. I think though, it is a tactical error on the part of the school, not making it easy to relieve yourself...How much better could you focus, if you didn't have that physical nee...

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Very lucid yourself, Joe...one problem I have with your depiction of the Catholic Church...if it is a "collegeum" of the "best minds", where is the voice of right thinking, proper Catholic women?????? I am not slamming the Church, but perhaps you can understand what I sometimes f...

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As well, it could be just another example of borrowing ideas. I wonder though, about the Book of Revelation prophecies. They certainly can grip the imagination, probably more than R, but at least there is some suggestion there that if you take the right path, you can at least be saved in spirit, if ...

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Yes, Joe, I think you are definitely on to something. Also, I think that doom SELLS, and an astute business man/woman, discarnate entity would cash in. Keep those students busy building UGs in the area (which is supposedly the only place on the globe that is safe), and they won't leave, they will fu...

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Was looking through the many possible links for channelers on YouTube - but, there are so many, most of them appear to be jokes - a transvestite "channeling" Carol Channing, - or, what I will simply call - entrhalling, trance inducing channelers. I have a theory that, whether or not the ph...

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I thought that was very lucid and, yeah, interesting. Thank you for that. :D A much gentler, more balanced view of the human psyche, spirituality, out of body experience, channelling, gnosos, Supreme Being and Intelligence, and all that, than I am accustomed to seeing. While I don't agree with every...

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Legal cases involving Prozac and Paxil 2004 09/06 Yahoo/Reuters Glaxo Faces Lawsuits from U.S. Parents Over Paxil 2004 08/26 Eliot Spitzer GSK settlement Spitzer: Release Negative Studies, Safety & Efficacy Paxil 2004 08/26 NewYorkTimes GSK to Release All Paxil Data-Spitzer: Where has the FDA be...

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Among other things, Prozac targets your Pineal gland, causing it to go haywire. It has a whole host of side effects, some of which persist after it is discontinued. A lot of people ascride the waning of their intuitive or psychic powers when at the ranch to practicing C & E, however, many people...

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Dear David: Thank you. Problem is, the picture is part of an e-mail somebody sent me, and is only one of many, most of the other pictures are cute, but not relevant. I have tried to isolate the picture, or discover its origin, but I can't. The picture just leapt out at me, after reading so much abou...

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Tried to paste a picture on here. It shows a long winding mountain pass, possibly in the Himalayas, with a sign at the start of the trek that reads, "TOILET". It was my visual analogy of what I gather is a real problem at the ranch. If anybody would like this picture sent to them, you can ...

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I'm assuming from the response you got that the Newsletter is sent to your computer? By E-mail? Does your e-mail servers have a "mark as spam" feature? If so, do that. Then, you may still get it, but, you will realize when you see it as spam, that if you choose you can delete it without re...

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I took a course, Legend and Myth History. In it, I learned that many of the legends and myths of old have since been shown to have been based on fact. For example, the legends of Troy were inspiring, but not actually credible to a lot of people, until archaologists found it. Same with Babylon. Just ...

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:wink: OOOOOH, that's so scientific. We activate circuits in our brain...if we respond to our environment. but, we're not supposed to respond to our environment, it isn't real, or, well, it is real, we created it, once we are savy enough to do that, and of course, it isn't simple, but it's presented...

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FreeNow, I'm not sure what you mean by "Karmic" price. A mundane price, such as suffering business reversals, getting sued, being reviled, not getting co-operation from people you think are your allies, because they have come to see you as wicked, or deranged...those would be prices that c...

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The degree of Karmic debt is to be measured against an estimation of the intent. So, what do you think was her intent? Was it all greed and self service, anger turned inward and outward? Was there an actual wish to harm? Just thinking aloud, your post is very interesting. You are brave to go there. ...

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Well, don't mean to gang up on you Tyger, but to quote you "no former student needs to appologize..." And "Hey, I was one of them"...so, all that scorn you are heaping must be on yourself?????? Also, you've just finished celebrating your really close friend's departure from RSE -...

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Thing is, TC always seemed like the guy next door. He still does. If yu forget just what group he is coming from, and that he's a celebrity, and just listen, he has not said anything that I can't imagine some guy I meet in the coffee shop might say. Just, the use of initials for concepts is a little...

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:lol: Compared to the Pastor in questions, your "tongue speak" is heaps better than his. I know the guy is not a "channel" in the sense that is probably meant here, however, he is supposedly channeling the Almighty. And if you saw him on TV, you would be astonished at the passion...

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I just said, it's a question of degree, and, was not at RSE, neither were you. I guess it's hard for me, though, to understand it as the truly wicked vile organization it must be if you would liken it to what I've seen of those 1%s. And also, all the people on here who used to be members of RSE don'...

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WEll, Leemar, when a biker club killed half of their members, 9 people, in cold blood on their own farmhouse, I don't think the subject of their income taxes came up at all. When my friend was gang raped, and her boyfriend along with her, in an attempt to turn them into prostitutes, by a bike gang, ...

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Peter Rigo is a Pastor in the town where my daughter lives.

This link will give a clear picture of what he teaches.

http://www.bible.ca/cr-dominion-christi ... ntario.htm

Note: For non-Christians, or sincere Christians, the views here are those of a non-cult Christian Reverend.

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Well Tyger, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine, right? One thing you said, though - ""The Mob" was supported..." - like Nazi Germany, you think that was in the past????? No, No, that is my reality, in the really big City where I live, formerly k...

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Wolfman, I don't know about Leemar, but I am now officialy scared of you!

However, all that goes towards my point, Leemar - if some group kicks down your door, beats you up and sets fire to your house, it's probably not RSE.

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Hi Leemar: I don't know much about the "MC" you mention, but certainly have heard of the Hell's Angels and the Outlaws. I see your analogy up to a point, affiliation to a secret society. However, I see some marked differences as well. The outlaw motorcycle gangs in my neck of the woods hav...

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Ramtha and the Born Again Christians agreed about the Pope, then. But I didn't think Carol Wotjilah was the Antichrist. He was not "my Pope" - I'm not Catholic - but as Popes go, he was pretty good, really, preaching peace. I don't know enough about the current Pope. Kind of agree about th...

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That really does sound evil, agreeing with Hitler. :shock: But Ramtha has told us, he is not the antichrist. He's an alien, right? Or, an ascended Master? Or, the new Christ? See& E - did you see Sleeper, by Woody Allen? They worship a giant proboscis. Just a nose. I liked Life of Brian too.

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Well, that is such a coincidence. I grew up in a Protestant Church too, but they have different names here in Canada. And my Mother left the Church when I was about the same age. But she told me why. She (like your Mom) was in the choir. The chief Minister and one of her fellow choir members had an ...

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I agree with JTRL, however sometimes, you just get what you need, when you need it, without having to work for or ask for it. A Christian might say Divine Providence or the power of prayer...some might say, blind luck, a fluke, serendipity. An RSE student may say they manifested it. I couldn't say w...

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Viewing the fifth tape of this year's LARSE gathering, I was impressed by Mr. Adams. Begin to believe that the reason for JZ's speaking out against organized religion (and the reason behind much of what she says and does) has to do with her bank balance. Of course she would see organized religions s...

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I protest, mildly, that my post indicated that what I thought was most objectionable about RSE was the a-Fact that children/teenagers have been molested or assaulted there - and why did I believe that? Because Whatchamacallit said so. b) The abuse of trust by a religious/moral authority c) The gag o...

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You will note that that Tarot card of which you spoke is number 13, "The Devil". But, pentacles (not pentagrams exacty) stand for earth, the material realm, prosperity and commerce...very fitting symbol in this case, lol. About the pentagram - The true meaning of the five pointed star is p...

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Good choice of song, Tyger!

In the same vein, here's another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfEmbIaaBU8

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Did you know that there is a real, actual toy called "Darth Tater"? Yup, it's Mister Potatoe Head of old, but all the clip on accessories are straight out of The Empire Strikes Back. I cut it out of the newspaper and put it on my bulletin board.

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You're so eloquent, Tigger. I don't buy that any one person or entity is the Antichrist, or that anyonei is purely evil. And I think that presenting JZ/R in such a light may not be such a good idea...it is perhaps easier, and smoother for a recent ex student to simply conclude that, maybe, Ramtha is...

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And you are trusting somebody who uses Darth Vader as his representative picture? Ah, well, Darth saw the light later on.

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To what extent do you believe those deaths were directly linked to participation in RSE?

Or is it just that they did not seek medical attention, because they were taught there that they could heal themselves or be healed without medical assistance?

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Very informative. Will only add - it is science (possibly misrepresented and rearranged) but most of it has nothing to do with quantum physics, particle physics, or quantum mechanics...a whole bunch of sciences, which deal with entirely different concepts and views of reality - physiology, astrophys...

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Basically, "science" means "knowledge". Mathematical equations from Dad: "Scientific" equals not "rational". "theory" equals not "proof". "evidence" equals not "proof". "emotional" equals not "irrational&q...

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Instead of "debate" I should have said discussion. After seeing the movie a few times, decided to ask my Dad, who was my authority on things scientific. He had a PHD in mathematics, but most of what he read was in the field of physics and metaphysics, also, he was fascinated by artifical i...

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Personally, I think pot is less harmful than alcohol - but, it's illegal so for me out of the question. But, alcohol is actually more adictive, so people who have problems with alcohol should not be encouraged to drink, or made to feel left out if they don't. That would not be a sound business pract...

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free2Ctuth
your post is decent and respectful, honest, and casts no flames. Would not put you in the same category as aforementioned current RSE members who have abused this forum, and have really been rather poisonous. I doubt you will be kicked off.

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Dear Wolfman: Kay, hitting myself now. Ooops, I'm at work. "This post was to the many involved in OMEGA....which I was one. And I don't need comments from lost in space people telling me how stupid I was for being involved with RSE. I obviously am aware of what I have done and thats why I am he...

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:P I have insomnia - Your Not Helping! I thank a higher power/providence/my lucky stars that I have never heard of those organizations. I thank my parents, I always felt I had enough, and valued other things above riches. and always felt, if I was to become wealthy, I would have to work for it. And,...

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:) very encouraging take on things, See& E. Was also thinking, people in RSE vary, just like friends on the outside. Remembering when I worked at McDonald's in my teens...thought we were all buds, we were all part of a team, we spent many many hourse together and shared many many experiences. As...

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Cyberland, the Cult! Yes, the Internet can become an addiction. Have to be online at work a lot, so can't give it up entirely. And, I live a alone, so at home it helps me stay connected to the outside world. Also, it's a great tool for research, and a form of entertainment of a sort. I keep in touch...

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Thank you Whatchamacallit, for being you. :)

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Dear Freenow: That site, What Would Jesus Say, is one I stumbled on a while back, but could never find again. It's pretty good, really. But I can think of way in which it does make sense, encouraging wine drinking as opposed to pot smoking. One is legal, the other is not. The administrators of RSE d...

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This is great, Littlewiseone. Celebrate :P :P :P - in it's truest form. Happiness is yours for the taking. Wish I could join in - don't want to poop the party. Too serious right now, too many issues. New Years resolutions for Lost in Space- Get a second job. Take no psychoactive meds - especially no...

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Well, viewing the movie... We are told a whole number of things, by some weighty scientific authorities, then, the film's plot kicks in, "expanding on" or sometimes twisting up like a pretzel what we are told. Don't get me wrong, I like the movie as entertainment, and I thought the ideas p...

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G2G, no Halo anymore :( The old smilies are gone, alas. In general though this is an improvement over the old site, as less vulnerable to 'infiltration' by current students or teachers who take exception to EMF's existence. And judging from the stuff those particular RSE members have posted on that ...

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Get well soon, and get your bounce back Tigger.

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I am thinking about what you have said. Obviously you have a great deal of personal integrity, and it is a matter you feel very strongly about, the lack of role models for young men today. Could you maybe post that as a topic on its own? I think the shift away from the "Macho" has resulted...

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U mean, you would fire them????

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Also, is the word "Terminate" as in "Terminate" bad guys more PC than "murdelize"??

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U thought I was gonna respond to that comment about Darwin, right? I said "murdelize" because of your comment about genetic predisposition and taking people out. Excuse my misunderstanding. The thought I had was that if you keep slamming other groups in the process of talking about RSE, th...

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Just pulling your chain. I see your point. But what am I expected to do, not being a guy? See, Tyger, you have so many good points, then undo them in the next breath. But, also, you have told us what's missing at the ranch - the only thing - instead of explaining just what it is that p*****s you off...

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Feminized America, Tyger? You are saying that woman don't talk much or know how to communicate?
Aw, well, for a different reason, I think you should tell them when you are ready, because deception will seem worse to them than defection. "It is easier to seek forgiveness than permission".

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:) And such human sacrifice is contemplated, because???

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Notwithstanding that (yeah, still yapping) I too think RSE is a cult - and former members like yourself help non members like myself stay "non".

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I hesitate for some reason to say this to you Tyger. One of my favourite neighbours is a Wiccan. She wears a pentagram. apart from that, she is sane, wholesome, decent, and I am pleased to have her as my neighbour. The association I offer between pentagrams and human sacrifices is this - those who w...

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That is so sad.
I think, though, that if they are truly your friends, they will remain your friends.

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