The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Z._Knight emf .david r mentioned. congratulations.

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Oct 26 - Guest Speaker, Giorgio A. Tsoukalos. 35000 year old channeled warier will explain if you r right or not mr tsoukalos. you better get all copyrights cleared. jz will use your material and sell it as her own.

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anybody knows what happened with rse and france?

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found this: Hmmm... Wonder what she did to "manifest" this awful death. There are a lot of people who think bad things happen to other people -- total denial of the possibility they could be next. The bottom line is that mysticism and misinformation from supposed teachers and super-powers ...

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http://yourwishisyourcommand.com/ the competition gets tighter. 400$bucks where you pay at rse a thousend and it works. this guy is even on tv. the salespitches are too similar.

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rse does not only not care about the comunety in yelm it not even care about its own people.

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J.Z. KNIGHT AND RAMTHA The tragedy of unbalanced channelers The case of ?Ramtha's School of Enlightenment? RAMTHA, SPIRIT OF LIGHT OR SPIRIT OF ERROR? Ramtha is a Spirit of Light of the Plane 5.6 who gave messages of Light to Judy Zebra Knight, (Judith Darlene Hampton). Unfortunately she also distor...

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http://unveiledsecretsandmessagesofligh ... amtha.html

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the teachings available to public r consistent. the ramfigure is constructed by steven wynberg probably gathered out of the sources you mention. they r also the 10% truth which make the scam work. so how did you study the teachings without getting exposed to jzs brainwash since most of it is only fo...

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i am very sorry to hear this. petras life revolved around ramtha and rse. sadly that doesent release one from the human condition. even so it was stated that a ordinary life is not an option. hearing about tragedies like this and comparing it to the salespitches of rse quite disscust me.

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ed is a very nice person. sadly he and his family r responsible that jz can run her scam. remember every cult leader has this first row of believers around which truly believe. after leaving every year substantiel money on the ranch [kids and wife and grandkids] there was no money for health insuren...

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thank you for this move. keep us posted.

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"Gurus don't sell their knowledge, they share it." .....hear hear

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two years i had an open mind. just to find out jzrs behavier is only to explain through the fact that she rakes in money so much as possible. i also went there to look if my masterteacher recocnice my spiritual distress about my doubt. a littel gesture might have done it. jzr missguieds souls toward...

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you pay for entry. the items r free? or do you pay again?...... so some of a great mind is just a yardsell.

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our jzr mastered several dissciplins: the changing of her past through lieing . teleportation of physical objects like $$ from your pocket into hers. several times she saved us from the end of the world.

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early days= good old days? so what convinced you that ramtha exist? or what let you hope that he does. what freedom? real or just imagined? or is it just that you pay extra for a one on one nowadays. when i came, the old ones told me how lucky i was, not to expierience the old more strict ramtha. wh...

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ups the [quote]is the other one

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I know over 30 people can now do this.
[quote] iam still wondering if this info comes straight from the rse stage. [/quote]

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most of the miracles are misspresented or staged.' like the meters went off the charts when i came in'[jzrs statement] later you learn that the messuring equipment was so sensitive that a pasing car could have be the desturbens in the field...seeing grandmother crawling through the fence and then a ...

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[quote]I know over 30 people can now do this.
were did you get this information from?

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intresting how rse is influenced from modern buisness and not so much from a 35000 year old worrier. at the end of 1990ies when i came ramthe teached mostly in the new age terms .Bobbi DePorters word: 'quantum ' came later so jz again read a book. her stuff also reminds me how cse presents itself.

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if you think there is much more than things she tried to sell in her shop. or t shirt and baseballheads and old books.things you get in a churchsale for quarters you dont know jz. 100:30 is still 3 .33$. if she masteres something its selling. some fanatics can afford to buy the robes used by ramtha....

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i found this on jeff adams webside. doesent this ring a bell? its a great laugh. John Owings Blog More... Global Swarming Thursday, November 05, 2009 - I combat stupidity by making fun of it. It's not always effective, but at least it makes me feel better. Global warming is scaring the pants off of ...

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sorry too much money is made frome this tale.

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http://www.rossinst.com/about_dr_colin_ross.html......i dont get this one.he should know how cults work. does he come to explain jzs technics? ....http://www.law.arizona.edu/faculty/getp ... 6...wonder if this guy knows were he speaks.

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the other part is cia agents ex army they all sign papers [probably more watertight than jzrs] to not give info of theire jobinsights if they would there is enough material for getting them on a nonpublic military triel and locked up. so thats proof to me that most of them are lieing and are probabl...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV9FttggmzE&NR=1 Special Message from Gen. Stubblebine and Dr. Laibow. they get a piece of the pie as it seems, they r guestspeaker.

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robert jones also bought the robes bevore in the cse auctions. hi free your mentioning of robert reminded me of very dark captures i expierienced at rse even in the times i was exited about jzr. he clearly likes his position of power as general or what the heck he was.

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why not tell the truth? taxyservices your sons buisness. a few years ago you told your students to do buisness preferable in masterowned buisnesses[all money which flows back in your pocket] most average expence just covers a fleececape.a sittingpillow blinders or some requierd reading cds all avail...

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the sig run is the aquvalent of s. ss means Schwarze Sonne. wich is translated: black sun.

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there were a view writers who came very strong blowing a simmilar horn. at the end nothing happened tell us whats the thing to do. were to get the money for the lawyers. were is the tv show who exposes rse......

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jzr can be topped.

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it might be too risky for her peorsanally to go.[chrimas plainattack] but a armyleader has his generals and footsoldiers to send out. doesent have to risk his own live. carfull consideration?-just do it?-determin your own desteny? doesent realy fitt together.

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probably greg simons because he can lie there, that remarks of ramtha has never been made:like the jews are the biggest victims. they made a journey which takes half an houer with a tojota truck and needed 40 years. the jews went acording to the bibel into the land where milk and honey flows and rob...

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thanks for showing that recruiting still happens. when i got over rse i thought there cant be people so stupied as i was. one mechanic of the rsescam is to prevent realetychecks with friend and family. all critical questions get a programed answer. but later when i started questening rse. i remember...

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james ray should have donated to police and fireman.

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any bets how long the comunity gets rubbed in that she gave hundreds of thousens? but i get noone can criticiese her for a while without hearing what a selfless humanitarien she is.

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so she donated 10 000 and pledged the rest. but the thank you and the publicety is for 100 000. as we saw in the past jz knows how to look good with false promisses. i wonder if she ever intended keeping them or she lies from the begining. so she is save from fireinspectors the next few years. after...

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heart attack during wineceremonie ???? brocken bones in the tank????suicides????thats not enough as long jz buys her way out and has the better lawyers.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/843 ... intresting the behavier of this guy before the attack. sounds familiear??

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merry chrismas and a good new year

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i think ledwith is not a teacher at rse anymore. jzr saw this comming[soon after she departed from dr joe] and protected rse. i guess all traces from this conection will dissapear.

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i never found out where quatum mathematics replace the pure linear one in jzrs world. she might have counted all events she gave people a financial break at rse. or is she just lieing???

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just to put some things right:it was not cse which operated the school on this property 7 years before the county closed it down. it was about 1 year or less before. ginger and brian had a private school on this property. they dident own the property. they established this school despite of backstab...

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thanks for putting the right math on reading the cards.the other story was about the field were you put your cards up, with a symbol of your choise, at the fence. you r blindfolded and hyperventilate. through focus you r suposed to find your card among the ones from other people. on a blue college e...

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she doesent have to. one of her clever students will do the trading earn on it and bring the winnings straight back to her buing his enlightment.

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well understandable that sick and at the end of his life someone nods to getting paied off. sad how many people will not know the facts about this.

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cardtricks allways puzzel the observer. cheats r set up that you cant look trough them. i agree also that geting a big shott pokerplayer or gambler wouldent be my intensive to study the great work. i dont wanna question your integrety i just wanna point out my thoughts about this. also the probabile...

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[quote]He does not have financial support for one thing, and if he did he may not have a case anyway[/quote]in other words jzs proof of originalety just depends on the money she can throw at her problems?

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[quote]From what I understand so far reading through these forums is that the biggest issue outsiders or former RSE students have with the school is the genuineness of JZ chanelling Ramtha and some of the messages (end of the world, etc). Would that be a fair assessment[/quote] my issue is that rse ...

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after the twist and turns this topic took i allready hear jzr from stage "even my ennemies admitted that the extraordinary happens in my audience" most snakeoilsellers work with a frontrow of believers.the scamed come back to look what they missed to make it finaly work for themself or sta...

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well kate how do you explain putting a pyramid on the hat and seeing a 35000 year old gost.........thats realy good

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i put the no to the videos the 3rd coment is for this two movies. he wiggels the cards back and forth as to find somthing on the back.

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coments to the videoes [have to admitt that i dident look them entirely through]. 1st: very edited. 2nd: she is jzs emloye has more to winn in her social field with an demonstration. exposing the scam is bitting the hand who feeds her.3rd: looks like he has to find the markings on the backside. of c...

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guess what marie they start with 3 cards now.when they do them consitently they go on to more.

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in the time i was there i never saw anybody demonstrating powers. i saw clever presentation. i think you should write an admiring letter to rse and ask for dokumented proof. i dont think they can produse it to an outsider. if you send 1000 people to the casino you will have one successtory for the s...

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so not even the name is original. is everything loaned from somewere else? the good news for judy is we all go trough life and learn from the wisdom of others. but please we not all freak out to trademarke our whole existence. how easy it was to steal other peoples achievments and ride on it. maybe ...

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right on the money. thanks for your brilliant writing. should become the read of the month.

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found this Note at the rseside : a film crew from the Dutch television network RVU will be filming two Dutch students experience throughout the Follow-up portion of the event. All participants will be asked to sign a video release for the TV program. ...hope the network knows EVERYTHING about rse.

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the hall has enough exitways. i guess you can be save there if the carpet is not flamable. the real bs is that there is drinking and smoking in the hall or not anymore? donations at the end of the year r mostly for taxpurposes why not throwing the money in the right direction.[remember there were th...

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nice find. r there more sceletons in the closet?? is it possieble to find the continuence of the story?

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the word seal also shows up in black magic circles. there r countles symbols for creating seals for all kind of purposes. painted on the floor or body [blue webs, pentagram] on the chackras. i guess you can explain all the magic of this kind with hypnosis, getting power over, nlp or brainwash. i am ...

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[quote]And when finally it become apparent that this is a catastrophe, he runs away, which is probably the best evidence that he is a snake oil salesman."[/quote]
same will happen in yelm wa. stolen copiewritten precognition as its seen from now of course.[/quote]

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why investigate he died of natural causes. also the women who shot herself in the baldhills is a suicide. though there is no need for the police to go out of theire way. i am realy eager to hear if the releases work in the sweatlodge cases. one possibility is when the relatives sue they never signed...

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dr,,,,,autorety.....greg????? he checked me once about dancing after the breaks. it is realy critical to keep the followers herded that they dont see whats going on in other groups.[dissqualifie other leaders] i bet that 99% of the ramsters say that there r no paralells to the sweatloge disaster.

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you just can change the name there is no difference in the structure of the events. people who r sick on rse events get removed and died in the hospital. the italian translater went to a blue colege event. due to his poor living conditions he was infected with hepatites. they had to force him into t...

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maybe frederick lenz allways passed out when jz canneled ramtha.....or they lended personaleties from paralell universes... in india there can be several incarnations from the same deity they just dont aknowledge each other.

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4000 ft wave Rambles talked about.....i peorsonely heard up to 5000. throwing in ridicules numbers might be a test how far she got with her brainwash. look at ramthas bs sientificly. isent this what they r so proud off. a diver without breathingaperatus dives around 200'. the limit is not the air it...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8299991.stm

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vital information that he's been holding onto all this time. TO WAIT THAT YOU R BRAINWASHED ENOUGH TO SWOLLOW IT. i bet the peorson had to swear not to give it forward to potential customers who dident pai yet for this information.

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he probably get lost in his allknowingnes if he doesent take the airplane. all this stories are not veryfiable. the teachers are under presure to deliver the extraordinary. needles to say that there are no tests observed by a "scsptic" even so that would make the students pooring in. i peo...

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to put a lien on property you have to try to claim your money. basicly you have to show that she dident give you what she ows you. but the money aspect is the weak spot. it will take lots of effort to show that she is a fraud and responsible to a lot of hardships and death. joe wrote a wile ago abou...

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when i contemplate how much harm jz did with her greed and ruthlessnes. i might smile about someone who is dum enough to runn theire life totaly down by takeing violent revenge. yes its possible that she pressed someone too much against a wall and a destroid peorson takes revenge. but how can you re...

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this poor women.....there is justies after all????

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i dont think you have to understand consceouly the process to get hypnotiesed. translation will just occupie your mind you still get the full hypnotreatment. i think you hit the bullseye arewethereyet.

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makes all the sense in the world. more dissoziation from realety. thats the whole thing anyway. imagine the possibillity for subliminal messages in an artificial flame.

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well i havent considert that clint eastwoods son might be a ramfabrication like the guy jzr called 007. so it might not be clints real son. the death of this peorson is fact.

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not even one retreat....

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because i knew his girlfriend who told me the story. he was on medication which dident tolerate alcohol. he got back to drinking through the wineceremonies and died from it in a private home.

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i dont remember the year[99-01] i was current. standing at the registration for a wineceremony,a staffpeorson handed me the agreement and said ; to get into the event i have to sign this. i started reading it. the peorson summerized the document to speed up the prozess. i asked her if i can take it ...

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jzrs inc simply makes buisness as usual. fair trade? keeping word? are not nessesary apliable to her scam or a comparebal buisness [carselling sientologie multilevelmarketing comes to mind]. people who got in her way got sued, badmouthed and just made impossible to live in the comunety. why do you t...

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we all made poor choises during we were rse students to the benefit of a fraude and liear. sadly she has a bunch of lawyers and employes to protect her and clear her act. the thing to beat her is to get ouer lives back together and call her on her bs. i too wish she would be exposed in a court of la...

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yes i definitly agree that this explains sending and recieving. did you see the derren brown where he gets the guy to wish on his own 'free choise ' for a red bycicle. derren shows how he guided him into wishing for the red bike. it also explains why all around you poping the symbols up you or your ...

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yes steve kline how long does the yelm comunety looks away from an inc with mafialike criminal activities? how much longer do they watch getting theire comunity sued? when comes the day you meet a major who doesent deal with you in an tolerant mature way like the curent one? sorry the yelm comunety ...

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[[quote]quote]"even to the most ardent Ramtha devotee", [/quote] sorry dead wrong.just a view month ago i argued with one of them that all the scams jzr sugested dident reflect much wisdom. i listed all the scams i knew of and started with the white powder. the devote then told me that a r...

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anybody here who remembers that oshos deciples flocked from oregon to rse and jzrs coments about him? was long before my time and i know only hersay. to my knowledge they were not allowed to weare theire malas with oshos picture on the ranch.

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yes thank you for this brilliant research. elevated pupills were allways a sign of druguse to me. since jzr is very loose in promoting 'littel helpers'[like wine prosac seewater..]the conclusens are obviews.

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yes steve kline the auditor of wa state did not share yours and jzrs? opinion. and now all this kiking and screaming. looks like you r just in a narzistic selfserving cult. isent the real issue that jzs neighbourehood doesent develop like she focused? doesent it mirror that the discipliens are faili...

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thanks for brilliant research. i dident read all of the times articel but shierly mc lain schould sue jzr for all the copycat [on selfsufficency and spiral energies]or did she learn trosion field stuff from ramtha as a former student? does it hurt jzr that you get mentioned as 'probably' and far dow...

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if the people in israel would hear the stated opinions on stage would they realy attend? like:judaisem is the religion which represent victimisation most. all the stuff about jehova. how the jews went into the land where milk and honey flows robing it from the palestinien population thousends of yea...

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maybe its an option christmas 2012 for the loosers who cant stick it out in theire manifested ug. leave the body here with koolaid?

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all consperecy revealations dident change history.all buffs claim that theire revelations will create a big outcry and change everything. it gives you the illusion you know more than someone else thats the whole base of ramsterarogance. but its just founded on thin air. conspierecies and ramthas kno...

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i dident know the bs i dont know.......

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hi gazza. good that someone stayes awake to cal jzr on her bs. but the dtc scare goes in cyles. i bet this year is the focus on witting the dtc out spiritualy and members have to show how serious they r. [that means how much money they spend on events.] shortly before the allingment jzr claimed thad...

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the ramfantasie would make a good sf movie. but the publicety it creats might hit backwards. like the what the ... movie. then the question how would you sell it: true history? true second personalety? tru copywritten fantasie? dont let me start on all the coppiecat isues of all the ramstories. i al...

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i dont wanna be unfair and not explain what i mean with parroting in your post: ramtha or jz no matter what she he is a genius and the teachings r true. [i heard this line of thought too often on the ranch to see that its not your original thought. not one of the abilities is realy checked. there r ...

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sorry that you r only frecqency specivic to the angry posts. lots of evidence all over this board that jz basicly copies whatever she teaches. its only new to people who never looked into sience or otherwise. most of your reasoning is plain jzr parroting. you could have learned candelfocus and seein...

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1 mill-2mill littel details like this probably dont matter when your life is based on lies and looking good.just a littelbitt embaressing when you get called on it.

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thats a nice independent okonemy steared by jzr. it emploeyes 100eds of people in the yelm area. under the tabel jobs for lots of them. all of them followers comitted to rse. they spent theire earnings to a big part there. and the people who pay for them? they have an investment of several 10 000-10...

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if you look at the 'evolved' rse there is a lot about gambling.the henry shugar story got a whole new moral. but students which left school more recently can put a better light on this. but here r my thoughts: so you got your students make money through mlm or all kind of pyramid scams. the successf...

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As a result, the possibility that Ramtha is an ?alter personality? cannot be answered definitively on the basis of the data available to us. jz claimed definitly that the sientific study proofs she is not a fraud. A small but undramatic increase in geomagnetic activity can be observed in Table 5 fr...

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thanks for sharing your story.i dident take it this way. it is my opinion that people who recognice jzrs mechanics will not fall for them anymore. one thing to do is .what emf does, to show that she plays the same tricks over and over. once i got the advice from a wiseman: if you r not shure whats g...

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[ today its so much more sophisticated with quantum physics & all. hi dove.it was also in my time to take 'the evolution of the school' to dissqualifie leaving students and giving the current audience the 'beeing special' feeling. meaning you guys are ready to understand the new teachings. if y...

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i do not wanna do the moderaters jobs. thanks for doing it.

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i see likes as wisewomen very helpfull when they get pointed out. it shows the mindset we overcame too good. anyway after called on her bs she dident show up again. sorts like tiger and lemar are coming strong than it soon shows that after a big mouth is nothing more just like the incredible ramtha....

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The problem is that she "knows" what Judy wants her to know.
[quote] that insight is absolutly right. [/quote]

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there is no money left after events? ramthas manifestationskills seem so poor as his mastery in predictions. maby he cant do better as begging the way through life after enlighten other peoples pockets. or dident the students focus enough?

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c did you see the fishingline blinking shortly before the chips are moving?

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I have enjoyed bringing the rain, the snow, the sun, the wind, and even bringing a new spring on the mountain, so that life would flourish. [quote] do you make the earth revolving the sun? dont waste your time on answering that. still one question:whats the significent difference for rse not beeing ...

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[quote]isent The best part of exiting RSE is that a wonderful day or ?manifestation? still happens even though I haven?t focused on it.[/quote] isent this amazing? good times

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http://www.actlab.utexas.edu/~zacme/twinkietheory.htm i dident know what the twinkyteory was so i googeled. if you continue to lissen to bs you can life forever. thanks for this laugh.

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remember?: Before the end of this year 2007, there will be news of an axis shift in the Earth - it will be belittled and covered up. jzrs cycle is running: days to come, failed students, i love you, i leave. a prediction of mine: she soon will anounce that she run some of the events with ramthas per...

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hi sara sorry for not repliing on your sophisticated level.but .... on other places on the board there is clearly shown that the thought: once a ramtha than somthing went wrong thinking is attached to the ramtha cult from the beginning. remember what the writer of the white book said? so in my opini...

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i forgot to tell you that she is under imense presure to prepare for the days[catastrophes] to come. that means preparing food and shelter for several years. sorry for sounding so unpolite. i simply wanna make a generalisation to show you the mindset you might deal with. if you understand whats goin...

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thanks for your post. if i may ask whats your language? ramthas teachings include to leave your past behind. that sadly includes you as a peorson her old home as a place.breaking up with her old behavioure patterns to be free and gain enlightment mostly schows in arogance.money given to her goes str...

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g2g: make the world a better place? where is the money in this ? jzr will only be intrested if it paies off. ww: only 1 reason why rse is not a cult please only one. oo :i thought about this too if you prepare for the worst dont you manifest it ?

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Let's be absolutely clear about this: I am not trolling here for anyone. I am not employed by JZ. I am not the spouse of any staff member or employee.

thanks for clearing this up.sorry for my missinterpretations.

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ww sorry was wrong about your marrigestatus you r still married to a major rse co cult leader.since your kids are so great tell the not so flatring story of your son in gingers school. gingers cancer death is probably proof to you how supirier you and your familie is.since you know cse tell everybod...

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ww since your income is comming from rse over your hexhusband i see how you have to agree with the cult to keep your social place.

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i know that jzr and all the ramsters r better informed more clever.[at least this is brainwashed into them] and water is an important issue.but feeling better and more knowlegabel is the problem of cults and other extreme groups like sientologie kkk nazis basicly every imperalisic oriented group.

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since 2012 only her people will survive in theire ugs. i wonder what drives her. i remember one evening when jzr stated how wonderfull it would be to have dormetories. a littel hotel which creats income for the school. maybe there r not enough waterrights for everybody.

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obvious yelm has democratic elected official which very well know their stuff as you can see out of the replies. so jzr like to change or use the political system ?toward a dictatorshipp like on the ranch?.if she dosent like comunity and theire rules why doesent she leave yelm?thats the only option ...

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ok here r books and guidelines listed to determine what a cult is.please give me only one aspect of rse which is not "cultlike"

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since this thread is about seawater 11 i also do not see your point.this stuff was poisones and it was clearly promoted to take it on the ranch by the big chanelled guy.and about responsibility:jz doesent take any responsibility whatever she does [its the ram or the students].i also witnessed a medi...

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oh my good her last facelift went not so good.pretty stiff upperlip.

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maby larry tried to figure out if jz got a boobjob together with her facial.on what level is a master acording to ramtha who lifes hishers life through sexual manipulation?yes i remember the first two seals are unabel to heal yourself.

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you have to enable certain things in the option box. preview to look how it turns out.

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i know someone who ask for masterfundmoney. who got the answer that only having cancer would qualify you for help. like all donation asked at the ranch i never saw any public accounting for them.or does anyone know the amount of donations for the astroturf or the soundsystem two occations were peopl...

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i wonder if we ever hear the hole upcoming story.the caseloads of jzs autornetyies will shurly co up.

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would be intresting to know if jz is selmas best friend. or if jz just rides others peoples popularety? how much does selma like beeing involved with a cult? how does selmas manager like her image as a cultfollower?

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that would be the end of it . if you would test ramtha with the abilitys he claims to have.even as a beleaving student you can watch that jzr never ever shows how its done bejond a doubt.she hids behind her succesfull students.

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David, thank you for running this ship. Yes you have all rights to say to anyone stop here. I also get that there is a big pool of possible conflicts. Like the answer asked at larse: do you wanna bring jz down? The official answer was of course not. jz needs actualy help. My answer would be of cours...

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you remember the salespitch:invite someone to the school you care about but not a critic.yes people who think are not welcome.

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i agree guys like tiger? or tiger got too much tolerance.sadly they used up the patience of the moderators.even so i agree to leave a post like rse hatemails on the board for exposing the true mindset.maybe we get a< garbagebinthread>for posts like the above one .also i realy apreeciate this board f...

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Some very serious issues and disagreements arose with the poster "Tree" that have yet to be fully explored and understood. These types of issues have risen with several other posters over time, though they have been short lived. Yes, Tree has her corners. Who doesn't? She is an individual...

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jzr uses several things together with handmovements.compare to sieg heil and the hitlergreeting.this are old okult technics.the victory greeting was sett up to opose.for shure it goes toward programing.

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the old emf site had several threads specific to

i thought so too but its difficult to find.this sorce verification schould get an extra thread on emf.you remember were the quote out of the alderboock is?

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At RSE "blue body" is a "so called" method of healing which involves focusing on "shimmering blue webs" (borrowed straight out of a book by Vera Stanley Alder titled "From the Mundane to the Magnificent.") This dogma (something put forth as authoritative with...

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thats very ridicules anyway lieing and then be asked to be inpecable when the students pay.i bet there are' runners 'for people who look livestreams without reg.the whole omegascam was very clever steared .all of 'rams' infos i heard were cryptical like:your faboules wealth comes with the first snow...

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A very astute observation, one that I have wondered about why this is not brought up more often by those at the "school" and how does it get rationalized away. We know that good teachers pretty much at a minimum would demonstrate and teach in the manner you describe rs excuse is"i do...

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http://www.mindmaster.tv/have a look at this.not too deep.pretty disscusting getting a selfhypnosed drone.and mytja and the girl well learned from your employe.hi enough up in the hirachy to use jzr brainwash without getting sued?the respect i had for you just melted away.

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two years ago i saw a movie from 1959 which claimed the same things .are the conspierecieguys the only constant ?do we all need a conspiracie to excuse us.jz hitler the jews the komunists the terrorists the fashists organiced religion just movements out of the human condition?

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[ he hasn't the background or experience to be the Commander in Chief of this nation] so?a fresh aproach is necessary from time to time.you r right that not much changed continuing borrowing money doesent fix the problem.also the american system is the most advanced it still has its littel flaws.no ...

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thanks.to what extend do people go to protect theire jobs there?

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since all asking you a hole in your belly i have a question too .if you dont mind it might be a hot theme or not.whats your experience with mobbing at rse.how is the military hirachie used there from people who work there.i was once in toiletstaff and my expierience with the big guys were more than ...

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well ad and tree.i had the same thing as tree going on.a wile i seperated not betwen good and bad ramsters due to my reaction toward them.any ramstertalk was hardly bearable to me.there were only a few with whom i keept contact making my opinion about rse very clear.after years know even this few ch...

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nlp at rse.this is such an important isue .it was a major breaktrough for my recovery to understand:ok somethings wrong my guts and my logig are not working together in an extreme way.something happened at rse.i thought about hypnosis but couldent conclude it.finaly the derren brown stuff made it kl...

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[I don't know why JZ Knight would do this - I can't imagine what would drive someone to do it (is she a sociopath? schizophrenic? posessed by demons? just greedy? did she just dig a hole that seems too deep to get out of?) - whatever the case, I hope for her to come to her senses and rise above it a...

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thanks for posting again after your event.when i read your post i started to write back and got lost.the emberessing thing is i would have argued the same way after my beginner.i was convinced too that there is someone else at home in jz.but watching her closer over the years and especialy in not ma...

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thanks.good to hear from people getting out sound.also good to hear that people dont go longer than one beginner[they get counted as current in jzs world so they r not a real sucsess][quote] I found this aspect to be particularly honorable, as honor while in RSE does not equate to the same honor hel...

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who wrote and published love yourself into life?????

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so just to give jz a chance:she had the rights to this former version?and weinberg came in and scamed naive jz out of the rights?now she just took them back?

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so allready 86 were people who started exited...got dissilutioned by discrepencies.....found out its a scam and left.isent this still going on?sad news that she finds allways fresch meat.that ramthas bibel is tainted by fraud and theft is a bummer.i still digest this.amazing for a peorson who guards...

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Ramtha's School of Enlightenment (RSE)
Ramtha's Gnostic School
The American Gnostic School
ramtha's scool of the mind
JZK Inc
JZK Publishing
is this splitting up of an empire a precaution for a downfall?are this all registered buisnesses?diversety to keep the heat in one part?

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facinating so gorden melton [who is on her pairole]witnessed.jz is not at home comes back he tells the story.which jz tells to the journalist.that clearly makes this test more significant than i ever thought.look at this:[ JZ agreed to undergo one of the most sophisticated lie-detector tests availab...

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tree were do you find this things.i thought rse is a school.not a cult or religion.do you have to sign a form not to channel in this shoes and robes?hope nobody performs woodoorituals with this relicts.

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please take your time and post again after the event.i am curious.good luck.

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<I just see myself as open-minded, free to learn, and I think all of you saw yourself the same way when you went on your first retreat, so what changed that? What was it that made you reject the theachings of Ramtha? > its all on the boards.go and look for yourself if you r anyway spend your money.s...

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this is jzrs new masterpiece.first two captures swing all over the fild enbeding everything into the teachings no specifics were she can be called on.the solution out of the blue:only paganways r the way.3.capture:totaly wrong:all wars ever fought and r fought today r about property and money.they r...

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right on .c&e works .i allways saw emf poping up right after rse with a search.clearly a step closer.

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according to rumors heard in town:over 2200people reg at bc 2009.that means ocupation of the graet hall will be doubel of the permitted no.parking down to the river.definit firehazard since there r wineceremonies again.

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[/ It is your inherent legacy as a divine being.quote]after all this trademarks?after the world goes down jzr plays normaly nice.so have a relaxed blue colege.the moment you set your foot into a bginner the ram takes credit for your faboules changed future.the two choises either beeing a good succes...

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but steadfastly held her ground in defense of everything Ramtha[quote]i did this too after a year of not going. it clearly is part of the brainwash.[/quote]

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as a hook in your flesh to avoid leaving rse contemplate the function of a 50000$ and up investment of a ug.c&e alcohol the dissciplins are the brainwashtechnics.

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there is a cream which helps by all kind of skinnproblems even after the failure of antibiotics and cortisons. have no expirience with inner infections and how to aply there however its in water available.colds i normaly drive out with vit c.

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children aren't the least bit interesting in sustaining the BUSINESS once she's gone. [quote]that might change if they get the money.they just have to skimm they not even need to run the school there will be enough fanatics who will kill for this job.[2.]has nothing to do with this thread but since ...

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tree as you see today the scool runs on recycled and stolen material anyway i dont think she will be nessesary.there is allways a overlooked significant teaching to be digged up.edditing will be enough.

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if she doesent mess it up her death will only change in which pocets the money flows.she might even try to get her wealth back in her next incarnation.her death will be a big blow to the school.there r enough teachers who will runn it.<the teachings>will be theire scripture and one of them will be t...

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both events happened near christmas.

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What if he does exist??. .......well on my journies to india i was in the mountains in a ashram.in the first year a friend called me into the teashopp"look what a wonderfull st niclas we have here"there was a guy sitting in the middel of a littel crowd wich could get away as santa.since it...

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

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jack london is definitly one of her sources .i liked to read his books in my youth[translated]so i recocniced some of his material.he has a whole book about streetpeople were he describs the scene were one of them leaves the coat behind.retold by jzr.and there is 'the straight jacked'which is about ...

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"This is about the addicted generation who cares for no thing and no one except self interest........that just describes peorsons hooked up in a cult leaving families behind.i know many different people.....mirrors????

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that side is good.

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i once woke up to "ram go ram "chanting.not goten the buildup i got aware of the similarety to "sieg heil "after goebels question "do you want the total war.only some has to be willing to do it the rest has to do it on gunpoint....

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my washingmaschine creats black holes were my socks dissapear...

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and sorry wake up you cant get this qualety in the streets.

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and all for the bargain of 30 000$$.well done jzr.ofcourse we dont know how much effort it cost jz to sacrifice her lifetime and r beeing ripped out of other dimensions to spend time in miesly heartizian.concratulations to the caniffs having so much money to blow.

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ramtha is not the ram.jzr not even know the story remotly because there r some nice things she could have used.

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do you know the ads which promiss you solutions if you keep on reading?and you go on untill the part: now buy ouer product then.......so is she the poor narcistic dillusional fool or the hypnoticing calculating bia...?

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This explains how he has higher intelligence and capacities than human beings?
------definitly not. give me only one example?

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there you have it black on white jzr is a lier.600students per event now it suets her to state 670.[number of students visiting the community who participated also increased to 1,635, more than double from last year.]so sewage got more too.how much got spent in buing your seat, paing for translation...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1MDKSJm ... re=related
there you have it.jzr was right all along.nobody can dissmiss this hard evidence.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmLfCLaH ... re=related

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good i was so stupied sitting there getting looled in jzrs hypnotic sensles endles schowing off.i cant belive i belived and paid.god that i woke up.i still get headaches from a movie like this.i hope i get my neuronets normalized bejond extreme acception and extreme resentment.

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sorry its 200- 600per event.

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JZR SAID IN HER LETTER OR IS SHE A LIER?????i cant believe that she still wants to live in yelm were her own neighbourhood need to get sewed.how is this neighbourhood walk working anyway?you walk around beeing always pretending dumbfolded trying to suck in the success you see in your neighbours yard...

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what has larry king to do with her sewer...greatest thief mastermind ????anyway the school doesent do good only 400-600 per event??so she doesent pull 1000people per event anymore.the bright mind goes to the sewer.????

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by the way jzr remote viewd after the confession jail for geis and his companion......

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the melatonin [blindfolds] and the seratonin [prosac] are major tools in jzrs BRAINWASHtechnic !!!!

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she has sometimes elevated pupils sometime just ordinary eyes.the doomsdaypredictions get delayed and rolled up new every cycel.after last years day that are here she probably shuts up this year to open her escapedoor.since she made so many predictions she allways be abel to say :i told you so.

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1 guy speaks up and then a hole town get threatend with boycots again?[=nascar]everybody can shop how it pleases him.iam a proud boycoter of: the blue bottel,jzross,the fruitstand in mckena and all other ramsterjoints.rse is a cult and most of the students are brainwashed mr klein.

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http://gnosisinst.org/content/view/18/52/ (DEAD LINK) In general, the doctine of RSE is a part of the New Age milieu, containing such standard elements as, you create your own reality and physical immortality. The elements that have been described as "Gnostic" seem to be involved with the ...

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congratulations to jzr,my deepest condolecence to whitewind weaver.both of you are snake oil salesman.so much i would have wished that the justice system would have stoped jzr it dident happen.but i give a sh about you my real considerrations go with the people you drag down with your actions.hope y...

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?Everything else is sour grapes,? said the split personality who spares no opportunity to point out that the Buddhists and the Dalai Lama dont get it. Who drove other people out of town? Doesn't she sound sweet in her press releases compared to her counterpart ranting from stage against neighbours [...

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