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What I don't understand is why didn't the "Lord of the Wind" herself just BLOW the leaves off of her roof? One big blow ought to do it. Is the 'tornado' (said to be created by RSE students at the ranch) newspaper story still in the back hallway? Surely, a bit of wind conjured up would be a...

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In face, why don't we all type off a quick simple note to the Larry King Show suggesting a show with ex-RSE'ers AND jzrk? Sometimes it only takes a few notes or calls from different individuals to "spark" an idea for "great television!"

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I wonder how many viewers would also wish to see a few ex-RSE students in on the discussion as well!!! Now THAT would be an interesting program. Can you imagine jzrk suddenly going "big guy" and shouting, "I'll take you down!"

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I remember seeing the "recipe" in the old forum. Maybe a link over to the archives will help?

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I REALLY missed something in her credentials! I thought she was working on her PhD!!! Oh sheesh. Not dismissing any form of higher education; however, working on a PhD and having your work peer-reviewed at that level is an entirely different "ballgame." I definitely must read her interview...

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Initially impressed with Judith's talk as Judith, I thought, wow, she comes across so "down-to-earth." Then the channelling, I was taken aback. It was a monstrous event now that I look back, and I remember being in total shock when "he/she/it" walked into the room using Judith's ...

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Danielle states: "We are part of our environment." This is a news breakthrough to her? Reading her interview again demonstrated to me just how immersed she is in the RSE "environment" - what thoughts are her own and what thoughts are jzrk's? It's difficult reading even after a ye...

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I'd REALLY love to hear about Joan of Arc! So many claim to have "been" her, including jzk... Oh, perhaps that was another timeline! :roll: :roll: :roll: I do believe in reincarnation due to my interactions with people who as children remembered their past lives among other situations comp...

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Yep - I was there too - she/he/it/ while "being" Ramtha, wore a belt with a strategically-placed dangling, uh, whatever from the belt. Yet she talked like jzk. When she/he/it first came through the door, women were lined up to kiss "him" and I mean kisses that were not a peck on ...

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David writes: ""RSE hijacks a person?s reasoning powers without them even knowing what took place? It's a tragedy that most of the people drawn into a cult such as RSE are idealistic, smart and caring.. who are oblivious to the true nature of the trap they are falling into.. with the RSE r...

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What is the 'star stuff?' This is the first I've heard it mentioned and am extremely curious to learn what else I 'missed' since I entered RSE after most of these things. Had I only known! How many people left, thinking some of these things were just a bi way out there, or a bit dangerous? Or did ev...

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I remember going into the vending area/water/restroom/luggage area back hallway so many times during an evening session, even when J was supposedly "R." The young teens were running all around back and through the hallway connecting the the men's and women's area. I heard some really foul ...

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""Dharma, Pyrrenees, Lyra,Kieras,"" Looks to me at least in some cases, jrk has a preference for names with the "eeeer" sound, not to mention her "borrowing" from Sanskrit, etc. "Kieras" for example, is a derivative of both a celtic name and a sanskr...

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I know exactly of whom you speak. I was confused because people I was with who were long-time students told me about it. But he was staying near where I was and he was completely into the teachings and explaining experiences he'd had. Really something. A CIA person was "brainwashed" by RSE...

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{{{{{Marie}}}}} I hope all went well with you with the therapist. I was in grief counseling after two members of my family passed on last summer. I was feeling guilt over not spending my time with them, and instead was at RSE when my family needed me. So i mentioned RSE to the therapist (an MD/PhD),...

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Whatcha wrote: ""That is my personality. Not RSE's influence. It is that aspect of my personality that got me OUT of RSE, and that gave me the courage to stare "Ramtha" down on a number of occasions, refusing to comply with whatever "it" was at the time. I am sort of pr...

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If the first grade/ 6 yr. old "handraising" doesn't work, and any takers on what she'll try next? Okay. Belch. Everytime you lost focus due to those "intrusive" thoughts, belch. It doesn't take much to fake a belch, and some do without any provocation of this nature. :lol: I can ...

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There is at least one video, from perhaps a couple of years ago, where jz is "supposed" to jr. Well, "Oh my heck!" slid right of he/she/its mouth. What HUGE red flag.

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One thing I find alarming is the amount of young people, say around 20-ish, who are REALLY into "What the Bleep" and "The Secret." These are bright kids with hearts wanting to change the world, many without the physics background. I can't say whether or not they know about RSE, I...

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""Whatcha - I'd be happy to start an 'addicted to chocolate' forum with you anytime... Wink"" Mind if I join you on that one? :lol: Chocolate is necessary to sustain human life (my words)... It does have health benefits, they now find, especially the dark chocolate. So eat chocol...

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Can you imagine what jzr would have done if one of those students had "bonked" her back in the head!?!

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:) Oh my goodness, ex! :) We're really living moment-by-moment. : :D So why live in fear, when we could "poof away" at any moment. The collider started in May, did it, and we're all still here? Thanks for the list. This life is full of things that can happen at any given time, don't the RS...

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""Enlightened human beings, Masters, Leaders, and Lights unto our World, would not need to threaten, nor require lawyers, nor force. They would be loving, kind, genuine, tolerant and caring souls. They would see themselves in others, regardless of their age, and would find delight and joy ...

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""What does a tree know that you don't know?" - then followed by the story of "Shambala" (really ruined my feelings for that song) - For one thing, a tree knows how to dress for the seasons.... :lol: No wonder why everything comes off so nicely at beginners' events and their...

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MW must not have anything better to do, or jrk is feeling frenzied. I've purchased several items from e-bay re ramtha teachings, and this was after I left the school because I wanted to see "the two paths" and read "Loving Yourself into Life," among others. I still have them, but...

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Lost - I felt this way a bit; however, there were many posts removed that were threatening in nature, abusive to other readers/posters, etc., I believe? Please correct if I'm wrong, David.... In that vein, it's difficult for those who oversee this forum to do anything other than yank what clearly di...

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It's about time! So will JRK merely hold up the meaningless glossies, or submit herself to the real deal?
It's going to be interesting - or not.

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Very interesting. Perhaps someone ought report RSE - in the name of all of those who perished doing C&E to cure their cancers.

http://news.aol.com/health/story/_a/fda ... 3109990002

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""""And speaking of Oprah.....I remember this quote by JZR: "She is just an envious black woman wanting to be white.""""" JZ said this? Or JZ behaving as R? Makes no difference to me. I am utterly REPULSED I EVER stepped foot onto that property. I am...

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"""Prozac isn't a drug. It is an inhibitor. The part of your brain you use every day is your 'beefy' brain. It is the brain that takes the lion's share of serotonin to get up and get moving those chemicals. If we are living exclusively for our brain chemistry, we have a collapse of em...

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"Is it that they don't know....or is it that they don't want to care?" (a bit from "critical mass/wind on the water by CSN) "Over the years you swam the ocean following feelings of your own....but now you are washed up on the shoreline".... How many RSE's realize they rely o...

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Excellent!!!! I liked this one as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVpgLqV-LQ&feature=related ---"positive thinking" courtesy of Normal Vincent Peale - has been around a long, long time. Nothing new under the sun. 8) 8) 8) Hello to all! Have been traveling and enjoying life, and l...

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:roll: :roll: :roll: I can't imagine why RSE "manifested" the doom and gloom into ITs timeline! Dude - EMF serves a multifold purpose, as I see it. EMF offers support to ex-members and family of RSE, as well as offering resources for those wishing to live their OWN lives as they see fit, n...

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""As the victim of childhood abuse herself, Ms. Knight is highly motivated to prevent any such conduct on her premises and the suggestion that she tolerates or encourages it is irredeemably preposterous"" Do I really see the word "victim" used by JRK's attorney? She/he/...

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You have received the very best of all! Nothing is greater than love. Your approach to the situation was always from love for your mom.

"Love is all there is."

I'm so happy for you!

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Humans can certainly be inhumane in the name of God - which is pure love. How can they not see, nor how do their hearts not ache? I guess with the brainwashing people will do anything - in the name of God only because their self-appointed leader claims it to be, when in reality, the leader is acting...

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For me, I believe it is a combination of both. I control the things in my life that are "within" my control. I cannot control others, but one can try (anyone have teenagers?) :wink: I cannot control the weather, for if I could, there would be sunshine all day long, with gentle rains when n...

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<<<<And>>>> Perhaps GS simply "moved to a 'new neighborhood'," - you know, that place in his "mind" where certain things have never occurred! Ah, yes. His "LATE" book. 8) I sometimes wonder how brainwashed this guy is himself (GS)! Also, why was Ramthat involved with a ...

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I remember seeing this video when it was news on another network. I wondered aloud to my spouse about the right/left brain issues. Kim Peeks, made famous by the movie "Rainman," has corpus agenesis of the corpus callosum, which means the group of nerves connecting the two brain hemispheres...

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Same thing with me at every event I attended in Yelm. SO much of that money was spent in the then Outback Cafe on premises for DVD's, books, t-shirts, caps, music CD's (music of artists used during C&E). Most of the money I spent was right there in THAT shop. It would appear RSE has no conscienc...

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LWO - I've noticed the same - and I don't have enough time on my hands! :)

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Many blessings to you, Lost. The will of the human spirit is amazing! Who knows the wonderful things coming your way.
Take care of yourself!
:) :) :)

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LWO wrote: << It's too bad the trial will not be about whether or not the 'confidentiality agreement' is valid in the first place....>> Isn't THAT the truth! How many people have traveled 30+ hours getting to airports, changing flights, from country to country and arrive at RSE exhausted to begin wi...

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A little off-topic, but I agree, Aussiegirl - I LOVE those boots!!!

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I wasn't at the school then, but I'm very curious about that supposed "channelling." Were any of his/her gestures, postures, facial expressions similar to hers/R's? I've seen a video of her as Ramtha where she used, "Oh my heck!" - Judith's expression of choice. It was odd to hea...

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Excellent information on how to not speak "the whole truth and nothing but" aka RSE-speak. Perhaps if Judith did not insist on her followers walking around blindfolded on a football sized field of inches thick mud, there would be even less water usage by RSE. Who doesn't remember the lines...

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Excellent post. All I know is that JZR is certainly no Jesus. I still consider myself christian although not in the traditional sense. I do not believe there need be a go-between as far as me and God, whatever God may be. I feel cheated in that so many of the teachings were purged, burned, or hidden...

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That was Susan Smith. She left her two young children in her car and let it just go forward into a lake - without her. She concocted a horrible story about a man and added to it that he was black.

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Thanks for posting the link, Whatcha. That's where I began reading and posting. That link links to a treasure trove of information from those who were there.

:) :) :)

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Atropine is derived from the BellaDonna plant, as well (as mentioned above). It has many medical uses, and is an anti-cholinergic. It's the injection of choice when our soldiers are exposed to neurotoxins which are cholinesterase inhibitors (and incidentally, are also used by the lawn and garden ind...

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"Back home blues!" Oh, I know exactly what you mean. The best thing is to travel again - and that's exactly what I'm doing!

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Perhaps her "time tile train" jumped the tracks. However the school began, it now serves as a hypocrisy. If JZR wants her own "place," she apparently has the $$$ to purchase a small island and allow the rest of Yelm residents to live without her trying-to-be-intimidating "ga...

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Whatcha wrote: <<<I personally was in audience and watched her shake her head, as she leaned forward, showing the audience that her hair grew back so she wasn't wearing extensions anymore>>> JZR believed THAT would prove she had no extensions? What a load, seriously. One does need to have hair to be...

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"Gold Dust Woman" - Fleetwood Mac - 1977? Rock on, gold dust woman Take your silver spoon And dig your grave Heartless challenge Pick your path and I'll pray Wake up in the morning See your sunrise loves to go down Lousy lovers - pick their prey But they never cry out loud ---------- Did s...

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Interesting. My beginner's in July 2007, one of the last of the nine-day events, I had a seat very close to the stage. The same with my follow-up and primary. In fact, the seats were just a few away from one another. I didn't "buy" a seat; I paid for the event which one would think would a...

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So it happens again-and again. I remember during the muddy, cold and wet March primary 2007, there were numerous people who had fevers, sore throats, colds, etc., and I was one of them. Yet I stupidly forced myself to go out onto the pouring rain in the near 4" thick and slick muddy field - bli...

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Happened to run across this and feel it's something, imo, we ought read with the mind wide open. Wasn't sure where to post it, however. Very interesting and provocative, I thought. :idea: "The Myths Of Christian Fundamentalism By Ken Adachi Editor - Educate-Yourself.org 3-1-8" "Normal...

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I'd be willing to bet most of the people on this planet aren't even aware of JR's existence. They have more important things to do - such as, feeding their families. She's a "big fish" in a very small pond.

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Tyger - what meds are you taking? Your posts have seriously taken on the tone of near- total paranoia. Those who have worked to implement this area for current and ex-rse'ers deserve respect for their efforts, and none of us ought be ridiculed for our political leanings. We're here to discuss RSE an...

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Huh? ::scratching head:: Who here is giving JZR financial support? I thought we were here because we "awakened" and walked out her big front gate.

I'm so confused.

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:wink: Tyger - okay. Have it your way. :wink: If the entire population of the USA was republican - how would elections and the transfer of power play out? Imo, we'd see republican attacking republicans most likely according to where they are in the bell curve. JZR take over this country??? ::::CHOKI...

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:wink: Oh Tyger. You of all people should know, in this country, the dems and repubs are quite friendly behind closed doors, even those running for political office. It's not that black and white, or "republican vs. democrat." Much more complicated. (and I was Teddy Roosevelt in a past lif...

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Oh please do not dismiss the masses as idiots, Ms. Christenson. Those of who are ex res'ers as well as currents know VERY WELL "The Ranch" is THE NAME used for years for the RSE grounds. And a ranch it is indeed. Take a shower in horse stalls, in the name of enlightenment. She'll vote only...

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Oh, the audacity!!!! :roll: She would like to see "enlightened" people filling some of the vacant seats? I find the backtrack explanation of "enlightened" by a current RSE'er to seem a bit less than honest, for those of us who are former RSE members are fully aware of how RSE'ers...

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I can't imagine why she's so upset when we all know about "the days to come" and JRZ's instructions to keep bottled water, go "underground" etc. What's she so upset over? All she need do is change her timeline, and perhaps listen to her "alter ego's" predictions of the ...

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8) I've not posted for a long time because I've been traveling, and will be traveling much more. I also found that I had to step back a bit, for in releasing RSE "beliefs," I needed to reclaim my spirituality and also comfortably grow. Sometimes I would read and feel very confused after h...

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Joe, thank you for your response and I respect your experience and opinion. But I still cannot dismiss the idea because of my own "Indian" culture. I know from my family how Asian-Indians reacted to those who were not from the east, due to their prior experiences. There are people who are ...

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I kid you not; there are some people who wear Depends-in other words, diapers. Still not the same as "controlling" one's excretory processes. Also, the evening programs are usually long (watching more videos of JZ or R's teachings), and many people who sleep inside the hall have their lugg...

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:!: I remember seeing that, and it's also advertised in catalogues, magazines. Each time I saw it, the first "Stepford Wives" movie came to mind, seriously. The "mask" is very unsettling for some reason, to me at least. :shock: I'll stick with murad and avon! :wink: Thank you for...

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Fake it? Oh my. So the impeccability factor is out the window from the get-go! I wonder. Was it ever truly impeccable? Did she fill up her "outside" because of what was missing "inside?" thinking, "To heck with others" -"I suffered and struggled from childhood to a...

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Thank you, Life Force. "Good days" and some not so good. Yes, it was a path of learning, painful as it was.

Love is the tie that binds. :)

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Must add. A HAND for the moderators. They do very well, I believe, in walking a fine line. (wanted to include this in the above post)

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My perception is what we have in common is we either are ex RSE'ers, or have family and/or friends in RSE or other closed-system, noncritical thinking groups. But beyond that, imo, there is a wide and diverse group of people here offering their own experiences and opinions. We don't all "agree&...

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My Stop At RSE Was A Stop In Time................ I understand that now. That's a very interesting perspective, Wolf. In a sense, 'time' did indeed stop for me. Again, I had no idea what I was getting into, but once in I wished for more "truth" or "knowledge" from imo, an altrui...

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Imo, it seemed to me he was laughing at anyone who isn't a Scientologist - simply because "HE-THEY KNOW." This remark then renders anyone who isn't what he thinks is "correct," as being wrong in their own spirituality, and that they know nothing. He used to seem like the guy next...

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Speaking of - one thinking he is God - check out this scientologikismshitze video they tried to suppress, of St. Tom, of "Missions Impossible." http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress I watched THIS right after watching an Arizona Wilder YouT...

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Tyger - ask him to explain how the "child just manifested into existence" while Ramthat was punching his father in audience due to J-as-R insisting this man was having "fantasies" about "his daughtern" and a famous latino bombshell who was a student at the school. It in...

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Very refreshing to hear from you. I grew up catholic AND terrified. We weren't ALLOWED to question; it was a "sin." So as a teen when I had many, many questions, I found myself filled with guilt (hence my original posting name here). After I married into another culture and had children, I...

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I have to add, of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, as is everyone.

RSE is more of a "Live and LET DIE" thing, imo.

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Tyger...... Another interesting synchronicity is the fact that you relate your wife resembling Ms Nicks............... Who by the way is a witch. Pure Wiccan my friend. I want to hear your story...........if it ever makes it to the light of day. Wolfman - I've been told more than a few times I rese...

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Just a couple of quickies. To debate the RSE teaching, "nothing touches anything," - How does RSE explain why my behind was so sore when I forgot my tush cush and had to sit on the hard astroturf! (Oh, sure, I "created" a sore behind!) Or for that matter, again, if nothing touche...

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:!: Have to try and get some sleep in the midst of these terrible storms and my dog barking at the wind! (hmmm-smart K9). So I'll make this short right now and expand later. "What the Bleep" awakened me one night when my husband and I had fallen asleep while watching television. First pers...

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8) Freenow, you don't have to hide, just tell them when and if you're ready, be it now, or be it much later. You will know when the time is right. When one is truly free, it's their decision. I've told my friends who were in my beginner's, and learned they, too, had quit, one before the other. She s...

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:wink: Tyger likes to stir the pot, right cubbie? :lol: I do, however, agree with LIS and Joe re interpreting pentagrams, white hoods, etc. to imply "they are the bad guys." Ever been to Salem, Massachusetts? It was heartbreaking to see the headstones of those accused of "witchcraft&q...

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