Hooked by a celebrity
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:13 am
Hi!
I'm new to this post and I don't have that much experience with Ramtha, but the little I have, left my mind quite fucked up.
It was around 2006 when I was living in LA and saw the movie "What the Bleep". Later, I read in "The Learning Annex" that JZ Knight was going to give a conference and I went to see her, thinking she was Ramtha (still didn't know anything about her). At that conference, I saw Salma Hayek and her brother. I know both of them from Mexico, and they invited me to Salma's house for an after party. Salma, at that time, was 5 years already at the school. So, I thought it was a normal party. When I get there, what I found was that JZ was the main guest at the party. Salma was talking a lot about her experiences at Yelm and I still couldn't understand the difference between JZ and Ramtha.
That night, I wanted to ask things to JZ, like how accurate our results should be at the sending and receiving (we did that exercise at the conference), and Salma kept on answering me, in a positive way, how I was good and should accept the end result. But I still wanted JZ's answer. I kept asking JZ and Salma would answer, and on and on. Suddenly, Salma got up, and in front of everyone just told me in a loud voice "I thing the only thing you want is to have the attention these last 30 minutes!".
It paralyzed me. I didn't know what to say and even a guy that works with her defended her. JZ never said a word.
That experience really shocked me for several reasons. One, I wanted to be a singer, and my chance for connections was being reduced. But mostly, because I thought that this Ramtha's School of Enlightment was about love and peace (that's what Enlightment really is), and Salma didn't really act like that. Although it made me feel guilty, because she was telling me "good" things before standing up, and because I didn't want her answer, suddenly wham!!!
BUT, and this is the BIG BUT..... Salma has done SO MUCH of her career since she got into the School. I know her mom and aunt were there too. Her mom is out, she doesn't believe that much anymore (she's a very advanced being, by the way). Her aunt is still at the school. So, because Salma has done so much, there's a part of me that still believes in Ramtha, or at least the teachings.
So, almost two years later, in October 2007, I decided to go to the school. I already had taken the Introduction in LA, and learned C&E and looked for my cards, but I wanted to go to the Ranch. So, I bought a complete camping equipment and I headed for Yelm. Really Naive......
When I got there, I learned that we had to buy all our food from the supermarket, and then there where mini restaurants there, so it was a waste of food. But I was happy and totally feeling special. The second day, at night, I was having my dinner and minding my own business and this lady sat besides me, and without me asking anything, she started telling me about all the prophecies. She talked with so much fear and passion it was incredible. I was already depressed when I got to the school, so, after that talk, I just fell into a deep hole. The next days where full of fear for me. I didn't understand how so many people could cope with this information and still be here and be happy (they looked happy). It was a really dark period of my life. I remember buying all the cd's about the prophecies. I would ask everyone there about them and they all said "oh, yeah, the prophecies". I didn't get it. When I saw Ramtha, I remember feeling love, specially at one time that he looked at me directly. So I was completely confused.
I went back to LA after it was over and spent 2 days locked in my apartment listening to all the cd's I bought, googling underground living, 2012, prophecies, everything. And that's when I decided to commit suicide. I could't handle it anymore. I got SO scared that no one in my family would believe me and that I had to go to live in Yelm by myself (I'm mexican), and when all the prophecies would occur, I was going to be so far and with no communication and they would be in danger. I felt so bad it was unbearable. Finally, some light got into my consciousness that made me change my mind, and I thought "all of this will happen in 5 years.... it's still a long time till those 5 years". And I decided to change my life. I needed to end THAT life. So I moved back to Mexico. And some of the light that I got was from Neale Donald Walsch, author of "Conversations with God", because I personally wrote him and explained the situation and he said it was not true and that even if it was true, because death doesn't actually exist, why would you live a life in a bunker. That's no life at all.
The thing that remains in my mind is about Salma. I saw her again at her house in LA when she was pregnant (her mom invited me because it was her jewelry presentation...the mom's), and guess who was there??? JZ Knight!!!! Her and Salma are like best friends!!! Salma even gave her a raid to wherever she was going. So, that's so confusing! I think Salma is a brilliant person, and it seems she has been applying all the disciplines, so how come she believes in all the BS that JZ Knight is??? If anyone knows some answers, I would LOVE to have them!!!
Last year my parents wanted to experience something enlightening and asked me about Ramtha. I didn't know what to tell them because I was still thinking it was MY fault I didn't understand the school, and that maybe they would. My dad is a physics mathematician and my mom a psychologist. They went to the retreat in Mexico (Ramtha was not here). My dad thought it was a complete and huge Bullshit. My mom... not so much. She is a "magic believer" like me, and she got quite hooked too. I went the second week for the next level, so they were there 10 days. I was there 5. It was so tense and weird, that right after doing these so called meditations and C&E about how "THE" day is going to be, about the ship coming, etc. so surreal, and then go to eat with my dad, and couldn't talk to him because he would get mad at us because we believed that. It was confronting. Finally, my mom told me the moment that she stopped believing in Ramtha was when JZ got all drunk. She felt it was such a huge disrespect to spirituality. My mom has been a practitioner of so many courses and teachings and is a woman full of love and peace, and she knew that a True Master would NEVER do that. Would never disrespect their channels body like that, and would never disrespect the audience like that.
And now that it's a month and a half before Dec, 21, 2012, I'm happy to say that NONE of the Ramtha's prophechies recorded in the cd's came true. That's when I started feeling calm about Ramtha's bullshit. I'm SO happy I didn't build an UG. I live in New York now, and Sandy just passed and I barely felt it. I was, without knowing, in the best area to be for a hurricane.
So, if anyone knows Salma, why is she believing, or is she? What's the deal with her. I need to heal that. Thank you so much!!!!
Thanks to everyone for their posts. They have helped me a lot.
I'm new to this post and I don't have that much experience with Ramtha, but the little I have, left my mind quite fucked up.
It was around 2006 when I was living in LA and saw the movie "What the Bleep". Later, I read in "The Learning Annex" that JZ Knight was going to give a conference and I went to see her, thinking she was Ramtha (still didn't know anything about her). At that conference, I saw Salma Hayek and her brother. I know both of them from Mexico, and they invited me to Salma's house for an after party. Salma, at that time, was 5 years already at the school. So, I thought it was a normal party. When I get there, what I found was that JZ was the main guest at the party. Salma was talking a lot about her experiences at Yelm and I still couldn't understand the difference between JZ and Ramtha.
That night, I wanted to ask things to JZ, like how accurate our results should be at the sending and receiving (we did that exercise at the conference), and Salma kept on answering me, in a positive way, how I was good and should accept the end result. But I still wanted JZ's answer. I kept asking JZ and Salma would answer, and on and on. Suddenly, Salma got up, and in front of everyone just told me in a loud voice "I thing the only thing you want is to have the attention these last 30 minutes!".
It paralyzed me. I didn't know what to say and even a guy that works with her defended her. JZ never said a word.
That experience really shocked me for several reasons. One, I wanted to be a singer, and my chance for connections was being reduced. But mostly, because I thought that this Ramtha's School of Enlightment was about love and peace (that's what Enlightment really is), and Salma didn't really act like that. Although it made me feel guilty, because she was telling me "good" things before standing up, and because I didn't want her answer, suddenly wham!!!
BUT, and this is the BIG BUT..... Salma has done SO MUCH of her career since she got into the School. I know her mom and aunt were there too. Her mom is out, she doesn't believe that much anymore (she's a very advanced being, by the way). Her aunt is still at the school. So, because Salma has done so much, there's a part of me that still believes in Ramtha, or at least the teachings.
So, almost two years later, in October 2007, I decided to go to the school. I already had taken the Introduction in LA, and learned C&E and looked for my cards, but I wanted to go to the Ranch. So, I bought a complete camping equipment and I headed for Yelm. Really Naive......
When I got there, I learned that we had to buy all our food from the supermarket, and then there where mini restaurants there, so it was a waste of food. But I was happy and totally feeling special. The second day, at night, I was having my dinner and minding my own business and this lady sat besides me, and without me asking anything, she started telling me about all the prophecies. She talked with so much fear and passion it was incredible. I was already depressed when I got to the school, so, after that talk, I just fell into a deep hole. The next days where full of fear for me. I didn't understand how so many people could cope with this information and still be here and be happy (they looked happy). It was a really dark period of my life. I remember buying all the cd's about the prophecies. I would ask everyone there about them and they all said "oh, yeah, the prophecies". I didn't get it. When I saw Ramtha, I remember feeling love, specially at one time that he looked at me directly. So I was completely confused.
I went back to LA after it was over and spent 2 days locked in my apartment listening to all the cd's I bought, googling underground living, 2012, prophecies, everything. And that's when I decided to commit suicide. I could't handle it anymore. I got SO scared that no one in my family would believe me and that I had to go to live in Yelm by myself (I'm mexican), and when all the prophecies would occur, I was going to be so far and with no communication and they would be in danger. I felt so bad it was unbearable. Finally, some light got into my consciousness that made me change my mind, and I thought "all of this will happen in 5 years.... it's still a long time till those 5 years". And I decided to change my life. I needed to end THAT life. So I moved back to Mexico. And some of the light that I got was from Neale Donald Walsch, author of "Conversations with God", because I personally wrote him and explained the situation and he said it was not true and that even if it was true, because death doesn't actually exist, why would you live a life in a bunker. That's no life at all.
The thing that remains in my mind is about Salma. I saw her again at her house in LA when she was pregnant (her mom invited me because it was her jewelry presentation...the mom's), and guess who was there??? JZ Knight!!!! Her and Salma are like best friends!!! Salma even gave her a raid to wherever she was going. So, that's so confusing! I think Salma is a brilliant person, and it seems she has been applying all the disciplines, so how come she believes in all the BS that JZ Knight is??? If anyone knows some answers, I would LOVE to have them!!!
Last year my parents wanted to experience something enlightening and asked me about Ramtha. I didn't know what to tell them because I was still thinking it was MY fault I didn't understand the school, and that maybe they would. My dad is a physics mathematician and my mom a psychologist. They went to the retreat in Mexico (Ramtha was not here). My dad thought it was a complete and huge Bullshit. My mom... not so much. She is a "magic believer" like me, and she got quite hooked too. I went the second week for the next level, so they were there 10 days. I was there 5. It was so tense and weird, that right after doing these so called meditations and C&E about how "THE" day is going to be, about the ship coming, etc. so surreal, and then go to eat with my dad, and couldn't talk to him because he would get mad at us because we believed that. It was confronting. Finally, my mom told me the moment that she stopped believing in Ramtha was when JZ got all drunk. She felt it was such a huge disrespect to spirituality. My mom has been a practitioner of so many courses and teachings and is a woman full of love and peace, and she knew that a True Master would NEVER do that. Would never disrespect their channels body like that, and would never disrespect the audience like that.
And now that it's a month and a half before Dec, 21, 2012, I'm happy to say that NONE of the Ramtha's prophechies recorded in the cd's came true. That's when I started feeling calm about Ramtha's bullshit. I'm SO happy I didn't build an UG. I live in New York now, and Sandy just passed and I barely felt it. I was, without knowing, in the best area to be for a hurricane.
So, if anyone knows Salma, why is she believing, or is she? What's the deal with her. I need to heal that. Thank you so much!!!!
Thanks to everyone for their posts. They have helped me a lot.