The silence of truth is death'ening

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The silence of truth is death'ening

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JZ Knight/Ramtha and her PR spin doctors have consitantly claimed extraordinany healing powers are taught and can be learnt 'for a price' if you enroll for classes at RSE Inc.
The fact remains that not one person/student to date can demonstrate even to a small degree what RSE claims it teaches and we are talking about a multimillion dollar corporation in business now for over twenty five years while blatantly advertising false claims and selling promises that it does not, and cannot honor or fulfill.
That Greg Simmons (marketing director for RSE) also claims over 75.000 satisfied students have passed through the gates of RSE... Really?
I will reapeat my point...
Is it not apparent that NOT ONE PERSON can step forward from RSE and demonstrate even to a small degree what JZ Knight/Ramtha with her clever PR advertising has sold for all these years?
How many more innocent but blindsided idealistic RSE students will have their lives ruined or lost by this cult before it is exposed and called to account?
The silence of truth is deathening :-?

David.

Knight/Ramtha Quotes:
What a student can expect from attending a Beginning Retreat:
To learn to heal and rejuvenate your body through an ancient ritual. This discipline has healed every conceivable disease and can extend your life beyond your genetic expectancy.Where the incredible become the credible in just eight days of your life..
Do you think the most important thing in your life is your children?
They’re going to grow up and leave you. Do you think the most important
thing in your life one another It is a conspiracy The most important
thing is you. You only hold them in bondage to your lack.
Women you think the most import thing in your life should be your
lover?! You’ll die- a wretched old woman, back to the worm.
You must give up the world in order to be a light to it; you must die
the death of image in order to be illuminated. You must be born again.
Born again.
There has never been anyone in this school that has ever been harmed.
How many people in your family do you know? Maybe you wear glasses, maybe you can't hear very well. Maybe you have cancer, maybe you are plagued. You know someone who's bruised.
Let us say, in less than seven years, you have the power of the healer, you have learned all of the knowledge of how to do its sacred knowledge, sacred science
And then the more you do it, the more consistent you come in. And then one day you turn to your child, your mother, your father, to yourself, and you apply the knowledge; and behold, it happens.
That's what you're going to learn here..
I have students in this school that have healed themselves of terrible diseases, maladies. I have students who can see through blindfolds. I have students who can read your mind. I have students who can find what you hide. I have students who leave their bodies. I have students that love the nature of God. So what I teach is a truth
.
Now is this easy? No its not easy. Look! You're sitting on the floor, that should be a clue. Now, wasn't Jesus born in a manger?
Sitting on the floor, it's a sign of humility. It's a sign of being back to nature, close to the earth. It is coming down from your humanistic point of view.
There is no need for alcohol or drugs in this school. There is no need for any outside stimulation. God has given everything to you to go within to find that.
Focus on my eyes - when you are insecure and you are sick and you have forgotten to believe, all you have to do is focus on this face. This face is burned into your training because my consciousness is greater than any weakness you could possibly possess. And anyone who watches this is going to get those close-ups of me, and I am going to work wonders in the world."
You will receive knowledge on how to do miraculous things with your mind. You will learn that true and meaningful change is not only arduous and difficult but that it is a joyful and liberating experience.
But he has nothing on at all, cried at last the whole people....
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And what gets me, as an outsider, is that no one says, "Show me some of these people who have achieved these things - before I give you my money"!
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And what gets me, as an outsider, is that no one says, "Show me some of these people who have achieved these things - before I give you my money"!
Hi Sad Grandfather,
A very astute point...
This is exactly what most of us asked and looked for during the first stages of being recruited into RSE.
But unfortunately JZ Knight has this well covered by using a concoction of deceptive methods to undermine
a person’s first line of defense of critical thinking.
Shills are used at RSE, oftentimes they are selected staff members looking to climb the RSE ladder,
but more often than not.... they are unwitting but sincere students who have succumbed to the many brilliant but ‘dark psychological arts’ at JZ Knights disposal.

David
But he has nothing on at all, cried at last the whole people....
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Having been taken by a few card sharks and carnival hucksters, in my younger and more naive days, I can see how it could happen.
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RSE uses well known techniques to hook people into doing and believing things that they would not do if able to think rationally.

1. Trance inducing rhythmic breathing and loud music. This psychological manipulation is well known and used on every continent where people live. Breathing and music can be used to possibly create the rhythmic firing patthens in the brain that resemble sleep or dream state. The brain may enter a highly suggestible state where sensory pathways and higher order rational thinking are suppressed.

2. Repeat the same lie over and over. Knight's, 'Ramtha,' character berates the audience members over and over telling them they're ill, weak, powerless, threatened by tsunamis, etc. After a while, it becomes rote. The, "turn to your neighbor," thing just reinforces it more.

3. If you lie, go big. That's straight from Josef Goebels' play book. Once Judy has established some [false] credibility, then the outrageous stories come out. The stuff about aliens, light wars, giant rollers under Yelm. Government and church conspiracies, grey men, Last Waltz of the Titans, HAARP rays for weather control, you name it.

4. Isolation. Make the students take classes in Yelm. It isn't practical for the students to leave the campus. Drill the messages in 24 hours a day. Who knows what the subliminal frogs played ad nauseum are really saying? Disorientation and suppressed critical thinking: this is essentially what the military does in boot camp to instill unquestioning obedience of its soldiers. Convince students to move to Yelm and live in conditions which limit their ability to communicate with former friends and family; assure the RSE brain washing is not diluted.

5. Use outside, "experts," that are in on the ruse - though they may be accidentally or unwittingly in on it. For instance, RSE used physicist Brian Greene or portions of TV shows from the History Channel. I saw an RSE presentation use a History Channel video about, "James 3." The slick production made the false reincarnation tale seem believable - until it is totally destroyed by about 15 minutes of Internet research that shows that James 3 didn't even have the type of plane he was supposedly shot down in correct. History Channel is a fake expert. The name, “History Channel,” makes it sound believable, but it is really just a cable TV entertainment source; not a scholarly endeavor. Knight tried to use Brain Greene to support Knight's loopy view of, "Quantum Physics," but it backfired because Greene acknowledges quantum entanglement, but doesn’t ascribe RSE’s magical interpretation to it.

6. Monetary and time sacrifice: This is what casinos, car dealers and state lotteries use. If you commit a lot of time and/or money to likely unwinnable cause, there's the human nature of tenactiy that says, "Damn, I'm going to make this work, hell or high water. I have to much wrapped up now to quit." One feels a fool to himself or herself for spending so much time and capital on a useless endeavor. The brain doesn't want to let itself believe it was all for not. However, ask most successful entrepeneurs - they've often faiiled and learned to let go in order to move on to ultimate success. Tenacity is a helpful suvival instinct, but it can get in the way of success.
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A very reasoned explanation. It has certainly worked on my daughter, as she moved to Yelm, and dragged her whole family with her. They are now rapidly going through all their money they got for his businees and their land, which should have been their retirement.
:shock:
At the rate they are going, they will be broke before they can even draw Soc. Sec. She has put my son-in-law to work full time, though, after he said, when he sold his business, he was retiring.
:roll:
I guess I helped them live sheltered lives, when I should have let them learn by hard experience. I thought I could teach by telling, but in their 50s, they are behaving like green teenagers, with no "common sense", whatever!
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My parents have no money, they have wasted thier whole life on a dream, that so far has only put them into desperation. They still hold to a dream that futher plumets them into a empty abyess. They feel guilty. Ramtha yelled at them and was so mad, they did not do their discaplines. So they try harder and with the new applied rules once again. You must stay current or you will have to start over! This applies to life all around. If you do not keep up you will be so behind, your next life will be terrible. You will be born in a horrible world.

This life they have missed and stopped living. They are already living as if they were in a low life. Why they can not see they had it all. They had a great life. It was taken away from them and they can not see that. This life is enough. It does matter how you think! That is obvious! Thinking is important and that creates your dreams and effects all you do and your judgements. How can someone in a medical field fall for such lies? After a period of time of never healing yourself, why wait until it is too late? Any one reading this in rse, please do not take my words lightly!!!!!!! Get treatment, take care of your self!! Please wake up to the joy of this life and do not be afraid to live it!
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