So I am wondering who are her controllers?
Do they use psychotronic mind control machines on students?
I am not accusing but just wondering how much of the religious/new age spiritual stuff is actually government mind control?
1) how the Agency would benefit from influencing a small number of backwoods New Agers
2) whether persistence of such a program over 30 yr has produced benefit to the agenda
3) if anything happening at the Ranch affects geopolitics/national security, which are the foci of the agency
maybe -consider this- we've been influenced to see conspiracy behind everything and moreover, have been influenced into a paranoid mindset. A critical thinker would say, "yeh right, as if I'm important enough for them to bother with."
Would the outlay of resources be justified for the result? No, we're not that important, I think.
submitted for your consideration,
Start on page 17.
Thank you Roy, will consider.
I am pretty sure that E=M(C squared) is still a fundamentally valid equation. This says you need thousands of Terajoules of energy to manifest even a few grams of matter, much less a whole person or a large ship. There simply is no power source at Montauk Point capable of producing that sort of energy. According to my friend, the Klystron amplifier array used in the SAGE transmitter was capable of around one to ten Megawatts of output for a few milliseconds.
I have heard Stewart Swerdlow on AM Coast to Coast, and I hear a pretty huge credibility gap, or credibility gulf, between Mr. swerdlow's double talk and what my friend told me that is reasonable from an engineering perspective.
As far as Judy Knight being fed students' personal information, I absolutely believe it is possible, even likely. It does not take any more computer power than an average desktop computer and Microsoft Access database to correlate any student e-mails to Beyond the Ordinary to your student record at Ramtha's School of Enlightenment. How better to hook you, than to make it seem as if the Ramtha character seems to be omniscient? There is also unconfirmed speculation that there are microphones planted in strategic locations on the RSE campus to pick up student scuttlebutt, that the Ramtha character can later use in the arena to scold students. The staff can also quite easily just happen to leave their two-way radios stuck in transmit so Judy Knight can monitor student gossip while Ramtha is supposedly taking a [cocaine] break.
I don't think psychotronics, the CIA, or any exotic technology is required to explain how Judy Knight gets her inside dope for the Ramtha character. It is just good old spying, the likes of which any municipal police department or private eye can do, along with a bit of quick fingered database work.
@Freenow, use your critical thinking skills again, revisit the link you posted, and review the table of contents for that publication. FDA responsible for PMS? The article re: JZK, yes, it's pretty damning, but one of the wonderful things about being free is that you get to draw your OWN conclusions from things.
She's a charlatan, a thief, a spiritual rapist, and is too egotistical to follow anyone's agenda but her own. Even the Agency couldn't throw a harness on that one.
My family has been in a long time and there's no way they would look at the proposed questions and respond like Roy did. I know I wouldn't have at one time.
I myself used to write Jz all the time when I heard disturbing gossip about some of the criminal students. Years ago. Students do this thinking she will do something. But students write Jz all the time telling her everything they know.
What did Stewart say about why he thinks RSE is mind control experiment? Is there a reason?
Watch the Glen Cunningham videos (http://wideeyecinema.org/index.html?p=685). Mr. Cunningham, a former Judy Knight body guard, describes Judy Knight watching the bumbling students out in the field and Knight making snide remarks about the students. It seems clear that Judy Knight gets her rocks off seeing how far she can push the envelope of silliness and still string her paying customers along to keep paying over and over for the same retread story. There's your mind control experiment! CIA need not apply.
I used to wonder if Knight suckered herself into believing the Ramtha story. The longer I've followed Knight's antics, the more thoroughly I am convinced Knight is completely aware she is peddling a gaint load of horse manure.
JZ likes money which allows her to own a mansion, have a staff, drive a Rolls Royce, etc.
JZ likes adoration. She has thousands of people treating her like a god and hanging on her every word. She has lackeys like "Dr." Greg and others kissing her butt.
It's that simple.
-harvest as much money as possible from longterm students in every conceivable way
-generate quick cash from short term students through use of mandatories and streamed events, on-demand streams, etc
-exercise her willful control and indulge her need for adulation over as wide a population as possible
-attain some sort of faux credibility by manipulating media and local politics, paying off scientists to conduct uncontrolled, non-peer reviewed studies, and spinning inconclusive results in her favor, in order to prop up the house of cards that is the Ramtha character. Rubbing elbows with celebs probably makes her feel worthy and important.
what results is an artifice of derived meanings with little actual substance, and the artifice benefits JZ and JZ alone. Everyone else is a cash cow to be milked, a shill, or a disposable co-conspirator. That's the pattern I see anyway.
Many people will pay $$ top dollar for they consider "exclusive knowledge". It works great for brokers in the stock market or brokers for business deals. JZ/Scamtha used the same business model with conspiracy theories, and making people feel like rebels against the machine of the "CIA" and "Secret Government". Then along came the internet and cable shows that constantly bombard the public with the same nonsense as Scamtha. Now JZ's babble does not sound so "exclusive" and her drunk predictions have been heard a thousand different ways.
The CIA did not take anything from Scamtha; only Hollywood did with all their manufactured crappy documentaries.
Even though I understand and comprehend the game she played with my mind, it still amazes me how willing I was to believe the things she said, however contrary to common sense or reason they were. There are people who I know will read this site, who question now as I questioned then. I want all of these people to know that it is good to question, it doesn't make you a bad person to doubt or have misgiving about the things JZ is trying to convince you of, it makes you an intelligent human being, who knows they are being misled.
I laughed that there was Ledwith citing information from a JPL web site as supposed cataclysmic comet impact coming in September, even though Judy Knight had previously pontificated that NASA means, "Never A Straight Answer." So which way is it? NASA is a government UFO cover-up conspiracy, or is it an accurate source of information worthy of supporting Ledwith's hare-brained pseudoscience distortions?
Freemysoul, your post was great. My youth was filled with so much illogical fear and anxiety. Unfortunately, I was too young to realize it was so stupid. "Our politicians are aliens." Really????? Unfortunately, my family continues to envelop themselves in every ridiculous thing JZ find on conspiracy websites and spouts off about.the politicians are evil reptilians, one world order, conspiracy theory galore days
I feel pretty sure that RSE is the personal mind control experiment of Judy Knight and her collection of friends for their own financial enrichment, entertainment and self aggrandizement.
http://heavensclimb.blogspot.com/2012/0 ... -cult.html
I agree with david about posting conspiracy links on the site. I do however think that the idea that RSE or any other similar type group might be used for fuel for other fires is not too far fetched. I also think however that the idea of thinking to ones self that they may have been part of a government sponsored mind control experiment is a similar line of thought of being part of an elite group, be it RSE, an alien abduction group, or an ex cia mind control group. One must look to recognize this type of thinking and how it might evolve.
I have done fairly extensive research on the subject and found no concrete links to RSE. That said, given the past history of certain extentions of governments from around the world fair game for experiments of this sort have always drawn from closed societies such as prisons, mental health wards, military, etc. So , to consider that an organisation such as RSE might be targeted to conduct something similar would not be a unusual consideration. After all, most people involved are estranged from their families and past friends, live in a communication vacume, some come in desperation of cures, many would not be looked at as credible witnesses because of their RSE commitment. Just one more reason why not to commit to a group such as RSE.
In any event,remember that just because experiments have and may be taking place as we speak (see many governments current attempts to build "super soldiers") This does not paint the organizations with the same brush as the persons carrying out the experiments.