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Candle Focus

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:44 pm
by David McCarthy
Can anyone describe the practice of the RSE candle focus and what its main purpose was?
Is it still practiced at RSE?

David

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:26 pm
by seriously
I did the candle focus at R$E events and at home. You probably know the process but for those who don't; you take two candles a short distance apart, maybe a foot or so, and focus/stare at them until they become one flame. This is done in the dark while sitting on your pillow. You are to be still and singularly focus on the candles.

As I recall, the point was to sharpen your focus and enter the void. Uhhhhhhhh.

When I would do this, I wouldn't blink for 30-45 minutes. I'd have tears streaming down my face. What was I thinking? No positive effects were noted. Negative effects were tight muscles in the back and burning eyes. Oh.......and just like all other R$E disciplines, it was a colossal waste of time!

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:52 pm
by David McCarthy
Thank you seriously :idea:

Do you recall when and how this was practiced at RSE and how many participants?
Were candles sold at RSE?

Thank you

David

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:07 pm
by seriously
I don't recall if it was a beginner's follow up or a week long event. The lights in the arena would be turned off with the exception of maybe a dim light or two back by the bathrooms. The candles were on the stage and raised. There may have been multiple sets of candles. I don't recall 100% but I was on the South end of the arena facing the stage at an angle and had a view to two candles to focus on. The other end of the stage may have had another set. I would say the focus session lasted 30-45 minutes.

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:12 pm
by seriously
Sorry. To directly answer your two questions:

The arena was full. This was back in the day when the floor was dirt. I would guess 1990. I don't know the capacity back then.

I can't say for sure if candles were sold at R$E. I never purchased any there.

Hey David. I'm thinking of you and hope you are victorious in court.

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:42 pm
by David McCarthy
Hey David. I'm thinking of you and hope you are victorious in court.
Thank you seriously,

I got out in 1996 and have no recollection of candle focus.
Are you sure of the year?
What I am investigating is connected to Fire, Health and Safety concerns at R$E.
Hundreds.... perhaps over a thousand lit-up candles in the arena was an extreme fire risk.
I heard of a woman toppling over in exhaustion and burning herself. :shock:
This would be around 1998??
Anyone...

David

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:22 am
by Rooster
David, I do not think I can recall the year. Seriously talked of the later candle focus. The first candle focus was each and every one of us at our seats were to light a candle. They sold single hourly candles and very small candle holders in the rse tent. We lit our candles, all of us. every person in their seat. We were to focus and become the blue in the flame. Later we would put our card behind the candle and focus. It was years later they put the candles on the stage. Two and we were to focus on them.

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:50 am
by David McCarthy
They sold single hourly candles and very small candle holders in the rse tent
Thank you Rooster , :idea:

I have it confirmed that all RSE participants were required to have a lit candle at their seats in the arena,
Circa RSE 1997 - 99.

If anyone experienced other fire danger situations at RSE?
Please feel welcome to post your experience here, or PM me directly.


David

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:06 pm
by Ockham
Was pipe smoking in the arena ever encouraged? Because RSE events are not religious congregations, RSE should not have any standing for exemption to fire code prohibition of the audience having lit pipes in a theater.

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:52 am
by Sunshine
Hi David :)

I'm with Seriouly here.. I recall doing the same kind of candle focus and the year had to have been between 89-91 as it was before my son was born. The floor was dirt. There were two candles on the stage. Although my memory says we did this for much longer than 45 minutes, I could be embellishing because I hated it so much, but I thought it was more like several hours. I know we were made to do c&e for many hour sessions 3-4 hours at a time. I was young, 17-19 years old at that time and I used to cry uncontrollably for the entire session. Yuck.

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:29 am
by David McCarthy
Thank you Sunshine :idea:
Yes...I remember something to do with a blue flame... we all had to draw the ‘fleur-de-lis’...
'candle focus/work' had several periods 89-91, again around 1997- with JZK selling beeswax candles..
Then it got a lot more involved with JZK-R instructing everyone to use a lit candle with a backdrop mirror, and something to hold a card....

anyone?

Re: Candle Focus

Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:20 am
by joe sz
fleur de lis is the symbol of ascended master Saint Germain claimed guru of Rosicrucianism/Masonry/Theosophy/I AM/ CUT and other sects prior to Ramtha.

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