At a different time i ass-u-me that it's Ramtha in charge. HE said so.
I have watched that 20/20 interview several times. Steven Bakker ? JZ Knights early P.R. guy share what he saw and experienced. It was 1984, CA. Desert. I watched Steven Bakker's face and words, he was destroyed by it. By watching her imitate Ramtha. Fool, dupe, lie to the people. He said she would get a few puffs off her cigarette from a spot out of view of her followers. Put it down and march to where students could see her. Imitate Ramtha. Then go back and smoke some more. Wow!
Whereas i once thought Ramtha was in charge and had put everything together at RSE,..?
The horse fraud thing is amazing. That ANYONE, man or woman could create such a story to sell a horse for $250,000? By saying, "RAMTHA said" the horse was his from army days, Shamiradim, reincarnated. The attorney general went after JZ and she got shut down, taken to court and had to repay the money, a lot of money. Obviously she concocted the story to get huge money for a horse that wasn't worth nearly that much. There's NO doubt in my mind that she concocted Ramtha as well.
I believe something happened at first. Ramtha, 35,000 year old from Atlantis, Lamuria? No. And according to Steve Wienberg that wrote the White Book? He put the fable together?
Ironically, when i went to my first beginners in late 1990s i met a woman from CA that was one of the first students at RSE. Had left and come back 10 years later. She couldn't believe the difference in Ramtha.
The following year i met and stayed with long time student that was having serious doubts about the legitimacy of Ramtha. That she didn't think it was him. In both cases being new and fired up i wrote it off as, "students that can't do the work'. (yeah, i know :)) It wasn't until many years later that it was ME saying the same thing. After getting online and seeing how commercialized it had become. Contrary to what "Ramtha" had said previously. JZ the star. Her face and pose on anything and everything. As Ramtha of course.
I think almost from the start she, JZ dreamed of celebrity status. Her first channeling was at Richard Chamberlains? Shirley McClain put her on the map. And Linda Evans. People in Hollywood, well known validated "Ramtha' and JZ. She did dialogues for 11 years before starting RSE? All the while marketing Ramtha. She was on Merv Griffin etc. It's show time.
When RSE started what was it? C and E? Over time disciplines were introduced and "teachings" created. To fit the "message. And over time what was taught in dialogue days, FEELING and EMOTION being a treasure and how to manifest,,,was completely PROGRAMMED out! Emotion became "the image". Part of the "limited personality self, altered ego". And joy, the original theme went out the window. When over time it became all about the brain. Programming the brain. Calling it enlightenment? When in fact it's mind control?
Ramtha-Ascension-Deep-Trance Now Hypnosis? Read it yourself.
I will ask the question again; how does a woman with no education to speak of create all by herself the "teachings", RSE? I used to think "Ramtha' created the teachings. Yeah, SHE did. I wondered how an ascended, 35,000 year old God of the Hindu's could teach we are the light spectrum and not know the 4th level is green? And how is it that Dr Joe, a chiropractor is the one that came up with the N.O., nitrite oxide effect on the brain information. That HE found by being an "internet junkie". That then became part of the brain teaching. It didn't come from an ascended master.
It's adding up. Coming together. We now know that what's been copyrighted as Ramtha exclusive-isn't. It's in Vera Stanley Alders books that absolutely agree and support RSE teachings but have never been suggested reading?
The more i dig the more i find out and am able to put together.
If you look at pdf, Love Yourself Into Life, it was about Christ Consciousness. Love and Joy. Remembering we are God. The magnificence of emotion as treasure. Now it's about reading cards, gambling, drinking. being called A-hole. Told to smear feces on yourself for humility. . F-ng Jews, Catholics and much more. And, whereas Ram once meant "the god" it's now been changed to "father". Moveover let me quote from Love Yourself,
All who be despisers of his brother, of freedom, and despise all things will not see (the coming age) and will not be permitted upon this plane until they have aligned themselves with the Holy and Divine Force of God.
It goes on to say there's no avatars of this Kingdom. There's no leaders. All are leaders.
The Love Yourself Into Life was the original message from 1979-1983. And contrary to what it says about having a following for "enhancement' that he didn't support-wasn't it JZ who said, "Ramtha said i'm supposed to charge'''"? From the start.
and 36 years later.....? it's one hell of a business!
Anyone that can say it isn't a cult, brainwashing and mind control.....is either on drugs or so far gone they have no mind left. It's been programmed out of the -stolen from them.
Heaven help us all. May the light of love and wisdom protect and guide us.
As i submit this it's like sending a note in a bottle-to whosoever will. May something i have said stir something in someone makes them search for the truth of my words.