Jz has a new man? One of her employees?

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Unread post by Vanilla » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:43 pm

I came across an old friend from way back who works close to RSE. As a joke, I asked ANY GOSSIP? Right away his eyes lit up and said

JZ is f---king Lars and Janine doesnt know about it.

I said oh, the body guard? Yes. I then asked, is this just idle gossip? How do you know? Ramsters gossip so much. He looked at me and said, ITS DEFINITELY TRUE. YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT. RAM IS GOING TO ADDRESS IT- HE HAS TO.. So I pressed but all I got was EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IT SOON ENOUGH. People are PISSED. He then went on to say Ramatha has to address this. I asked, does this change the way you view Ramtha, your spiritual teacher. He said, everyone makes mistakes, JZ is human. Its not Ram, etc.

I then asked another friend and she said, the people that work within the inner circle are very " annoyed". That Lars and Jz are keeping this from Janine who is supposed to be a friend of hers and everyone else. I met her a few times, she looks just like JZ. Yes others have seen them kiss. And this will be addressed, it HAS TO.

Well, if the world is going to hear about this and "everybody knows" and certain people in the inner circle "are annoyed" I might as well come out, ask if anyone heard this and is it true.

To me, its the whole hypocrisy. Married men. People who work for you. I dont care if she dates or whatever, just looks really bad when she as RAMTHA, is preaching and calling people out on cheating, even when they are cheating with PHANTOMS and fantasies.

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:33 pm

Hi Vanilla,

The fallback line of...
everyone makes mistakes, JZ is human. Its not Ram, etc
has been around since day one when RSE students fell for Judith's JZK/Ramtha charade.. both are fake..!
Hardcore RSE members will blithely tell you.. “I have experienced “Ramtha” so it really doesn’t matter what JZ does or does not do...I love my teacher Ramtha… :sad:
This is the challenge when trying to reach and help those we care about caught in the RSE snare..
Yes..for a few this will be their "One Fine Morn" and last straw to push them to open their eyes to the painful and unthinkable truth that "Ramtha" is a deceitful concoction hatched by a clever charismatic sociopath.

We are here for them.

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Unread post by Robair » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:00 am

Hello guys

Way back in early 1990 JZ at that time was already after him and during that time rumors was all over the place about her and him JZ has when in her Buffoon suit will seat with him and talk with him all the time. This charade has been going on for a longtime. I am not suprised at all just wondering why it took so long to Manifest I would not be suprised also to hear that they have been sleeping together for a longtime.JZ nothing more the an old Cougar :lol: :lol:
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Unread post by Vanilla » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:37 am

Ramtha shouldnt have told Lars to marry Janine when he clearly didnt want to.

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Unread post by Vanilla » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:54 am

I know when JZ stole James from his girlfriend, the girlfriend confronted Ramtha, angry, Ramtha said, " You reincarnated into this lifetime to experience this betrayal"

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Unread post by Ockham » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:57 am

Messing with Lar's head: Judy continues to fool around with Lars (for 20 years!) and meanwhile Judy uses her Ramtha character instruct Lars to marry Jannie. Create the conflicted emotions for Lars and also a guilt trip with which to blackmail Lars. That sounds like the stuff of a serial predator. I feel bad for the people Judy snared in her trap.

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Unread post by ex » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:31 am

ramtha has to address this? he should have to address that he brings people to yelm under false pretense. that non of his predictions come. yes you mention the false moral of rse. ridiculing people about fantasies or being homosexual. of course fathers missteps and jzs affairs are something different

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Unread post by Ockham » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:03 am

As they say, "to make known the unknown," to Jannie - if not unknown, at least she's apparently in denial about her unfaithful husband.

"Ramtha," could addess it by reminding the students that this is a manifestation of Judy just once again being herself, with the first example of her behavior being when she blew off her dentist husband. So Judy's been up to this sort of thing for 35 or more years... and students are shocked?

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Unread post by California Dreamin' » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:44 pm

Perhaps Jz/Ramtha's explantion about Lars will have something to do with the tale she spun about how "Roses" (aka Lars) courted Ramtha's beautiful daughter and how they were never able (for some forgotten reason) to consummate their torrid l love affair.

Perhaps JZ will say she is now merely only finishing up her old karma as Ramtha's "beautiful* (gag)" daughtren, and how Janine understands the situation . . . .


* This makes me recall how JZ/Ramtha has always described JZ as "beautiful." How sick it is that she always describes herself as beautiful.

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Unread post by joe sz » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:27 pm

lookin for love in all the wrong places :?:
again :?:
why are we surprised?
sex for pleasure works with battery toys as well as boytoys, but for Love that demands mutual and mature selflessness/self-denial solidly in the mix, a virtue unknown and uncultivated by RSE and its grandly wrapped but cheaply constructed 'love yourself into life' motto.

It appears to me, keeping in mind the history and the "A State of Mind" autobio, JZ's life has been one of sex as 'power over you for my sake' and never as sustained, mature love.
Jeff Knight described how she used Ramtha to overwhelm him and his gay inclination to fulfill her fantasy and desire. Now that's power! She been a broken woman and no Ramtha character can put that Hump-ti Dump-ti back together again.

Sad, bad theater but hard to just walk away from it and say nothing when so many are being hurt.

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Unread post by Vanilla » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:36 pm

Its so ironic


Jz, Lars, Janine, all the inner circle Mitja- they all sat around at a party --and totally slammed and judged..this guy who had a dying wife of cancer. He took care of her every few weeks, did her shopping and when she died he was with her everyday. Dressed her wounds, massaged her, hid her morphine and needles, took her sadistic abuse. But they lived apart TWO YEARS. Two years they were separated. His wife didnt want him around her. Jz didnt want him around her. He was kind of oddball and went to casinos too much. He was with someone else during that time. His wife knew, and knew the woman. This was something that was accepted.

When she died, everyone looked at her husband who was with another woman, like..the worst man alive. Jz brought it up at this party. Everyone murmured in agreement. The betrayal, the cheating, not being impeccable. They ostracized him. He was humiliated publicly. Jz was pissed.

Jz had a big funeral and this womans kids didnt want anything to do with it, they said the school killed their mom. They hate the school and burned all her Ramtha materials.

I heard Mitja say himself. They slammed this guy for "cheating" on his wife who was JZ's buddy. I even agreed. I even thought what THAT GUY DID was just betrayal. Everyone was talking about him. Can you imagine, someone enjoying sex as their wife lay dying?? GASP he was kicked out of his home. Lost his job. But he moved on and still is in the school, still goes to events.

I remember it because it was so cold so cruel. It was like being exiled for this man. He was devastated. Ramtha had a few words to say about him to everyone. He was humiliated. People came up to him and said, I know this happened to me too, Ramtha destroyed my life..welcome to the club, it will make you a better person.

But I have also heard a drunk Ramtha talk about how to have, and hold, in sickness, in health.. whatever the saying is, is not worthy of a god. How marriage is not worthy of a god. So.. I guess whatever mood she is in.

He brought up a man to confess to his wife for even FANTASIZING about someone else.

Ramtha talks about JZs sex life all the time, so that her Exes dont go and write a tell all book, she tells all first -so nothing new can be written. She says she cant get orgasms. She loves her students so much she cant get orgasms. That is what Ramtha said about her daughter. Now if my dad talked like that about me.....
How James never pleased her. How he talked dirty to her and she hated it. Sex is dirty its first seal. UGH

Honestly

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Unread post by Vanilla » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:56 pm

I have to tell this story.

Ramtha picked this guy out of the audience all the time, and hugged him. You can see it in videos. His girlfriend bragged how the ram loved him, he was good, he knew his goodness. She used this against anyone who spoke out against his shiftiness. She used it against me, that Ramtha someone liked her boyfriend better than me.

We all later found out, not only did this guy deal guns in the school, but he was married to another woman in a different country. Carried 20 cell phones for each contact he had, that he had to call at malls, was scared for his life because he left the country every 3 months to scam people in a bank scam. I know two people who are still waiting for their investment. He uses their names to get cars apartments. And she told me herself, stuck hyperdermic needles in her nipples.

It makes me laugh. Ramtha always goes to him, I have seen, I used to feel envy... maybe because he is so overweight and looks lonely. But he is not who he appears to be. Maybe he is good inside. I am just saying

RAMTHA not a good judge of character, especially in romance.

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Unread post by freemysoul » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:47 pm

This post is almost straight out of Globe magazine, or The National Enquirer. Only from rse and JZ could such deprivation and disgusting defects of character be so common and universal. JZ is spiteful, and thrives on drama. What a better way to stir up shit, and cause chaos, then to create turmoil in personal relationships, turning spouse on spouse, friend on spouse, friend on family on spouse, the gambit of interpersonal spectacle. It isn't in her nature to date someone like a normal person, and she is limited as to who would ever want to be with her because of the whole ramtha horseshit, so she has a pretty limited selection to begin with. She also is not a 'beautiful' woman, as she likes to describe herself so often, and if she really thought so, then why all the botox and face lifts. She can't honestly look in the mirror and find beauty, she is hideous, both physically and spiritually. There are men who would date her at rse, but who wants an emotionally bankrupt, childish sycophant to share their life, even JZ has standards when it comes to her narrow window of relationship preferences, but like grandma used to say, "beggars can't be choosers".

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Unread post by ex » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:50 am

what a way out of the question: what happen to the days which r here scare this year. after this great gossip every thing goes in the background.

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Unread post by ex » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:47 am

elenin is jzs and roses wishing star?

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Unread post by ex » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:41 pm

here a letter from a international student. indoctrinated but with a sense of distance, probably not aware of the dark side of rse. i put this here because with the above info it makes more sense. no relationship= cranky nasty ramtha. relationship= loving suporting masterteacher.
one question what the f is this new programming phrase: opus of the ram.??
but here the letter out of the masterconection:


My dear friends in Ramtha

Some of you have written to me asking how I am doing. Until now I have not really been able to answer you, I have not really understood all that has been going on in my life lately,The past half of year has been intense. You know how Ramtha's emergency announcement after the Fukushima quake set our minds whirling. Am I ready? Am I prepared? Am I going to survive? And how about my family? My nearest and dearest?

All my fears were ignited. I was like a whirlwind trying to relocate my family from the present seashore on the Åland Islands in the Baltic Sea to any possibly safe place out there in the world. I then contacted many of you and sought openings to our future life. It all came to nought - we are still here by the sea, still vulnerable to days to come.

But on another level great changes have taken place. Ramtha succinct teaching about the Backstory from the spring has been churning in my mind since then. The horrid truths about my hidden agendas and emotions that I have never before dared to accept as mine have been whirled to the fore by the fears that got me running in the spring. Ramtha's proven method of putting us face to face with the darkest aspects of ourselves has been slowly churning in my mind.

I spent my summer translating an exceptional book my wife happened to find in our bookshelf. A little modest booklet written by a Finnish, but Swedish speaking, author Mona Leo called "Livet älskar dig" or "Life Loves You" from 1940. The book describes the aftermath of the World War II as envisioned by this woman when the war had hardly begun. This book contains all the wisdom and beauty of the ages in the simple stories of people yearning to see the truth about life through the obvious destruction, pain and misery they have lived through. Just the book we all will soon need when the hell that we together have created breaks loose, and becomes fully present for all who have their part in these fearful games we are so used, and so indoctrinated, to play.

To translate "Life Loves You" was a great meditation and preparation for this fall of civilization we are about to face. It's all in our face! It's here and now, even though we would like to deny it. We are in for a showdown! The time of fearful creation is over! At least on this planet!

I saw both of Ramtha's teachings last weekend. First the furthering of the Backstory teaching and then the great Opus of the Ram. During that time I was alone together with my wonderful daughter Tindra, and somehow her presence and the beautiful little things that we did together created just the right kind of loving atmosphere. In the pure love flowing between us I was able see and hear clearly what Ramtha had to say. The message came in loud and clear,I am the responsible creator of my reality, the only truthful source of all that I ever see, feel, touch and hear. I am the one I have been searching for.

Here I stand in the clear presence of my being, knowing all this, all that has been hidden both in me and in my world, and ready to go on to create new worlds of love and compassion, worlds that we all have dreamed of beyond the surface demeanour of acceptance that we have felt we have needed in order to survive in this common world of ours soon to pass away. I am ready for the Future Now!

How about you my friend?

Klaus Rahikainen
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klaus if you have a loving beautyfull home don't trade it for a fearbased ug.

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Unread post by Vanilla » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:46 pm

Its madness the fear Ramtha inspires in people. I stopped warning my relatives about the DTC when nothing happened a million times over that Ram says. The second volcano will erupt and do ice age by November so dont fly. Nothing happened. How I tried to stop my own mother from flying in to see me from Italy.

And anger when you know it was JZ's scam and brainwashing all along.

"But scientists prove JZ goes into delta when channeling.." AHHHHHH I cant even talk to these people.

It feels like I am going nuts and so glad to find you guys and this website. I dont know what I would do without it. I dont want to see therapist but maybe I do, just to talk about how angry I am over being so duped by something so obvious. How lonely I am, how I do miss being around a "group" and going to parties with wine and cheese. How empty I feel. How I feel I am the only one. In a crowd of people so happy to believe in something so dark and morbid. That I was somehow a bad person. A "hater"

I think all you guys are so smart.

The letter does talk about dark agendas Ramtha informs us about. How scared she is. Ramtha making you look at darkest aspects of yourself. You after you are dead, and having an ORB class with yourself, after you are dead, and maybe if you are lucky, the photographers can take a photo of you and your orb, which is you , after you are dead, while you are blindfolded with cards sticking out of your head and this crazy smile.

Grey men, who rule the world, aliens who are in the light when you die, spaceships flying over the arena and CIA spying on everyone. How the government is somehow threatened by Ramthas power. To lead his army. How we love him so much we followed lifetime after lifetime..and all babies are reincarnated ramsters who just died//How he never has had sex and that is supposed to be healthy. To have lived 7 years with a wound so bad, you couldnt sleep....alll this freaking bull---t I could go on and on.

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Unread post by whatatrip » Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:00 am

I feel 'ya Vanilla,...... I was so immersed in it, the school was such a big part of my life, and the worst part was "what do I do with the hole left behind?", and I have had to sort out my mind, and get a sense of my own spirituality away from the web of programs that I got caught up in there, and get 'me' back. What has REALLY helped me get clear and find joy again was filling that empty space with healthy relationships, getting back involved in the activities I so loved doing before I became so enthralled with RSE. Just the other day I quietly noticed a sense of lightness and joy returning to me, and sense of looking forward to life, feeling safe in the world, that I had not felt in years. It's like a certain kind of innocence returning. I was astounded at how much fear programming I took on, even though I was never really down with the whole end of the world stuff, I still had allowed it to creep in. Focusing on my joy again has really helped me let go of that and see things more clearly. Another huge piece of healing is letting go of the quiet insidious sense of self loathing that appears to permeate the atmosphere at school. The sense of self hatred for being so human, for not doing the disciplines good enough, for not making Ramtha proud, for having emotions, even the anger at oneself for having bought into it in the first place, feeling stupid, etc etc etc... Undoing those self abuse programs is key I believe to really reclaiming one's life from something like this. Because it is the self hatred that is the emotional hook to stay locked in. And I see it now with friends who are still hooked in, the way they repeat Ramtha's words to themselves about how lazy they are, how base and sexual they are...but they are going to try harder, but yet it never seems to be enough, but they need to just keep going, and hoard more food, and dig holes in the ground, and drink more wine to escape the pain of it all,.....and around and around. My heart just totally goes out to them. Compassion for oneself and our fellow RSE'ers is so important....

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Unread post by Vanilla » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:04 pm

Ramtha addressed it yesterday at the event last night.

Janine stood up and just started crying. I felt so sorry for this woman, drenched in tears, hugging Ramtha/ Ramtha told her that the channel loves her, and ( playing with her hair) " Love needs to take a backseat now to god". I do not know what that meant, and people told me when I asked said, only Janine knows.

Later on,when Ramtha was really really drunk, he rambled poetry, thats what it sounded like. All night. About seabiscuit and JZ, the channel: all night long. It was so boring, everyone was asleep. Anyways, I heard him say

WHO DOES THE CHANNEL LOVE? NOT YOUR HUSBAND>..but you should be so lucky. Said this twice. Who was Ramtha talking to?

Then later on, Ramtha was talking about how old JZ is getting, a senior citizen, and how the competition is so rough out there. And told the audience, that JZ has not had any lovers since blue body.
I thought. Wow. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe all those people who work with Lars and JZ are wrong too.

The first person I talked to, totally unrelated, I found out he knew about Lars and JZ. He had to turn off the stream when he saw Jz hug Janine. And this is a ramster. He might be coming on this board soon. It was the last straw for him. He told me , I KNOW EXACTLY what LARS is doing with JZ. The way he said it, meant he really knew. I asked another friend who knows who just shook his head and shrugged his shoulders. Nobody wants to talk about it. But they are very sure.

I was thinking, you remember how Ramtha all of a sudden was telling people a new guy was coming who would be a master UG builder, the very best...well I asked some UG builders and they said they knew who it was and it was a boy who just came here and works with Lars. Now I see, maybe she was promoting his business, you know for like blackmail.

I think it was the last time my friends go to an event, but I could be wrong. The audience looked kind of bare and empty. All Ramtha talked about was JZ, and Seabiscuit and an hour long weird poem that didnt have periods, about autumn. Hardly worth 50 dollars. No new news. I mean, you could find more interesting stuff on Coast to coast radio, and learn new things on there.

Jz is not why people come to Yelm. We dont, never cared about her feelings, and why she loves horses. So why does Ramtha spend hours talking about his channel.

I also heard that Ramtha said anyone who questions him he will sue and that scientists proved he is the real thing and gave some veiled threats.

Look, I dont want to be down on people. I dont want to hurt anyone. My goal is to get people to open their eyes. Look around. Things may not be what they seem with "{Ramtha" . Is it possible, is there a chance? That Ramtha is a creation? I just want people to ask themselves this. How hard is it to fool people.

Once I paid 300 to speak to a "channel" who stuttured ummmed and gave me a cold reading, so cold. I couldnt believe people would scam others. I just couldnt because I would never. But they exist and what makes it right for them is the big paychecks they get. That takes care of all their guilt.

If people want to join RSE, go for it. But it really needs to come with small print. This is only fantasy. And maybe that is what people want. But the lies. I just cant stand that.
I really hurt for Janine. I did. I saw her cry and then for the whole night she was just creepy starry eyed. She has to know. Women know this. Maybe she thinks..."I should be so lucky". Who knows.

RSE employee people,not me, are saying that Ramtha did indeed lie. Not me.

You know when you see something wrong? Someone lying, husbands cheating on wives at your parties? But you dont say anything. I have never been like that. I was the first person to tell my friend her husband went to a party with another woman holding hands. Not one of her friends said anything, but they ALL talked about it. How angry they are.. Someone who does work for the school. When people all around town were laughing about it. She did not know. I get that same feeling. I just do. Like I feel sorry. I still feel angry Ramtha humiliated my friend on stage, made him confess. It broke my heart, for just fantasizing about SH

Please open your eyes. This stuff is pretty scary. When your "teacher" is just some insecure woman taking advantage of her friend. Lying about it to all those who are in the know. Those who still believe Ramtha is real and who cant understand why he has to lie. Maybe when he said LOVER he meant emotional- not physical lover. That is how some liars think.

I have a right to judge Ramtha. Because Ramtha JUDGED ME. Publicly too.

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Unread post by Robair » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:41 pm

Hello everyone
Thank you Vanilla for the Update.
I also understand that The Buffoon mentioned that JZ was not going to die anymore but had chosen to grow old I guess with her new younger Boy toy that took her 20 years to get in his pants.
He also mentioned that it was not a ploy when he talk about JZ dying nope not a ploy to get his students to go to events to make more money.
It looks like she finally admitting that she has been monitoring this site.
Also the Cross dresser mentioned in his/her drunkenness that HE not JZ was going to sue the one that are talking against him. This is funny what the matter with you Buffoon Cross Dresser you lightning machine is broken an your runners not working either, Now the Gods that you are want to sue people like me.
Here we go I will give you a reminder what I have been calling you for the last 4 years YOU ARE A Crook, a Thief, a Scammer, a charlatan, and a Rapist of mind an souls, Please take me to court and this time it will not be about infrienging you trademarks, you will have to bring your 8 Foot buffoon. Come on you fake faces let do it.

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Unread post by California Dreamin' » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:24 pm

Please take me to court and this time it will not be about infrienging you trademarks, you will have to bring your 8 Foot buffoon. Come on you fake faces let do it.
Robair,

If JZ takes you to court, I'll travel to Washington and sit on your side of the courtroom and testify as a witness if need be.


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Unread post by ex » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:18 pm

jz knight you r a liear and you put people in the poorhouse with your scam. on what grounds do you wanna sue ? is your imaginary friend, your creation, your delusional state insulted? wonder how the judges put up with this. i challenge your intellectual property too which you have stolen from other brilliant people. you definitely have not the guts to repeat your thread anywhere other than behind the closed door . they might be anyhow meant for your dwindeling followers. you know exactly how bad the puplic opinion is about you. no one is allowed to post coments behind rse webteam publications on you tube.

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Unread post by Robair » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:06 pm

Hello everyone
Thank you CD that would help a lot
But I want you guys to understand that I want her to come after me. I have set aside a good amont of money just for that scenario.
Come on JZ let have fun
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Unread post by Ockham » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:43 am

That was a good hearty laugh! "Ramtha," sue somebody? I wonder how? I'm trying to figure out in what venue the vaporous old entity would have standing. The Hague? The other thing, "Ramtha," needs is a suitable complaint. It seems like it would be pretty tough for a, "being," with no physical form to claim damages. It is kind of hard to damage something that doesn't have physical form. I'd like to see a judge in the state of Washington that wouldn't throw JZ, "Ramtha," and her squad of lawyers out on their collective asses if they tried to have, "Ramtha," file suit.

"Ramtha," may not be happy that people on place such as EMF have unflattering opinions about, "Ramtha," and, "Ramtha's," friends. Luckily, it is not a crime in the USA to have an unflattering opinion, nor is it a crime to express that opinion publicly. Ask any Hollywood celebrity that’s been in the crosshairs of TMZ, or a politician that’s been roasted by Matt Drudge.

“Ramtha,” should take a lesson from Steven Weinberg’s writings about being, “impeccable,” and take some of, “Ramtha’s,” own medicine. The old kid’s rhyme about sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me. Buck up Ramtha, and take it like a 35,000 year old! How first seal you are!

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Re: Jz has a new man? One of her employees?

Unread post by ex » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:50 am

so the threat part of jzs cycles is over. we see a nice old man reading poetry. next will be the spiritual growth promises for the retreats next year. around christmas you will hear what as...... the ones who doubt ramtha and left are, who couldn't see the benefits dealing with their anxiety and the value of preparedness. of course the threat will still linger in the background. ready to be pulled out to press tears.
robair maybe there is a challenge over an add.[open letter.....] in the local newsletter possible to get her out of her walls.

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Re: Jz has a new man? One of her employees?

Unread post by Vanilla » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:57 am

Ramtha also said he didnt have to take any one to court to get them back. Meaning I thought some sort of voodoo power.

Another pissed Ramster said last night
" --- has seen Lars on top of Jz-- in Ram's " ." I am so sick of this"
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Yeah. I felt that too, David. That Ramtha was talking to his critics. He said, "People think my channel has all this wealth. People think Jz lives in luxury, and has all this money--When she uses her own money for her school"..and " Noone has invested any money into this school but the channel" .

.." Some of you listening will only hear tonight..~oh the channel was puking..~ and nothing else" And you know when Ramtha said that, I tried really hard to find this amazing knowledge, but there was nothing

Any current events now are lifted from the conspiracy websites. I think there was only one thing Ramtha said, about gloom and doom, which I had heard, that China is putting 666 on the gold coin.

I could not make sense of any of it, and when I asked my partner to tell me, all I got was...what HE thought it meant. But noone knows what the F ramtha was actually talking about. They make it up or its cold reading so they think he is talking about their lives. He actually said to me, that Ramtha is very different now since 2001. Meaning ???

My best best way to describe what Ramtha looked like was, you know the crazy lady who sits at the bar that the bouncers are scared to throw out? You know the crazy lady who talks to herself at the donut shop then goes outside and poops in the grass> I swear. That is what Jz looks like on stage. ANd they play this sad music, while Ramtha is talking..very drunk, walking around..drunk...With glorious music from big screen movies. I took notes but noone would believe me. It makes no sense. The crazy bag lady at the busstop makes better sense.

The audience sits silent thru it all. Lost faces. All saying yeah. WOOO. When Ramtha gets them up to dance to songs that everyone buys the next day or posts on Facebook.

Oh Ramtha went on about how marriage was really messed up. How it hurts people. ( Then why does he marry people)

I convinced and got a few Ramsters to realize, something is very very wrong with Jz Night. They cant admit Ramtha isnt real yet, but they think, including a man who works with her. He told me, He KNOWS when Ramtha is in the body, and lately at events, he says Ramtha is not there, its JZ. I wish I can get him to come forward. He is tight lipped.

My point here is to say yes, she definitely was defending herself and her actions.

I talked to a 15 year student, who told me he had to turn off the stream at home when Ramtha hugged Janine"--he keeps telling me some things but stopping. He says," I cant say anything because I know you will go online and tell everyone. There is so much dirt in the school..if only you know..I just say anything to you". I said what do you mean? He said , you know LARSE? Well. I just dont want you to go and tell them.

I really want to be done with all this. But it takes time to get out completely. I feel still surrounded alot by it. Pressured still. Alot of money is involved.

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Re: Jz has a new man? One of her employees?

Unread post by ex » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:02 am

ramtha diden't walk up to you and talked with you about your spiritual struggle. that's what a real teacher who cares would do. he can't because jz is not evolved enough to take students. its a scam. we all got deep hypnotised at rse. i mean it takes a lot to get out of there. for me its connected to depressions, fatigue, desperation anger. you looked through this charade. it is admirable that you try to wake people up. to hear about resent events gives me the strength to make peace with this capture in my life. but not to the point of shutting up.

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