First DTCome Video

The RSE teachings The Days To Come "TDTC" would have us believe that the world is going down the tubes with all sorts of doom & gloom.
That the Yelm area is protected.
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First DTCome Video

Unread post by Justtruth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:20 am

Anybody remember the first DTC in Colorado?????

Ramtha talked to a pregnant woman and said beautiful things regarding her newborn child, I cannot remember the exact words, but he was basically saying the child would be born to a world without ..................................................... ( in other words NOT the one we are in with hate, war, etc.......................................

Well, that child is almost 30 years old

Anyone have the video?????

He also used to tell us to go to Montana, Idaho, Oregon and the mountains of Colorado

Never mentioned Yelm, always Washington

Reason this one, it is near Ft Lewis, and everyone knows there are Ramsters with food stored and undergrounds and the energy of the city is creeping in, does not have a sacred feel to it

Everytime I tried to live there, nothing worked for me but when I left, my life soared everytime

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Ockham » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:25 am

Yelm is a nice small town, but it is definitely on its way to being subsumed in the Sea-Tac ex-urban sprawl. I remember going fishing on Clear Lake with my cousins in 1972 and it really seemed like it was out in the Boondocks back then. I had not been in the area for more than 30 years until a few years ago, and what an education it was to see how built up everything has become.

You're right about Fort Lewis. I asked ramsters I know about that, and they think the base is under, "Ramtha's," control. I don't know if JZ/R told them that or it was something they decided on their own.

Despite what JZ/R may feel, I doubt even, "Ramtha," will be able to stave off the inexorable march of commercialism and sprawl.

There's always some rationalization that JZ/R has for her current dogma. "Ramtha," or the students changed the timeline or whatever. It doesn't matter what, "Ramtha," said a few years ago about TDTC, or where you should live, because the timeline can be changed. One might be inclined to ask why, "Ramtha," would be tricked by changing timelines because, "Ramtha," allegedly exists hyper dimensionally beyond the strictures of time as we know it.

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Another Dimension60 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:25 pm

the first dtc, perhaps in Denver, was in the mid-80s - no videos then, only audio tapes. The first mention came in the midst of other 'stories' -- then, apparently, jz saw the response to the idea and began using it as a main topic -- which generated multiple questions of am I safe where I'm living now --- although moving to WA was encouraged, it wasn't promoted as the only safe place. Then the message was to be self-sufficient - what would now be called "living off the grid" - which included having chickens and goats and cows and gardens. A few years later, at a long event at the ranch, the morning of the last day Ramtha reamed out everyone for thinking about going home and bashing everyone for being concerned re their animals and gardens (it being August and a week plus away would take it's toll on unattended gardens) -- some people were actually sobbing with the guilt of having such terrible thoughts of concern for the living things in their care.

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by ex » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:39 pm

funny i recognized a thing about ramster gardeners: they are gone on events when they should put out theire seeds. when they have the time to tend finally to their gardens they have a big job of weeding which throws them back again. last but least they have mostly meager gardens. except they r rich and hire people for the work. or do this kind of commercial. all this day to come sch... locks a lot of money. if you would invest this in projects there would be a real different culture in yelm.

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Lost in Space » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:57 pm

Excellent point, Ex.

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Justtruth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:46 pm

YES, THERE WAS A VIDEO

http://www.amazon.com/Ramtha-Days-Come- ... B000JWI5SI

Here it is for sale on Amazon, I saw it a long time ago

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Justtruth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:54 pm

created in 1987

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Indigo » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:26 pm

Wow, was this video done at the retreat in Estes Park where he named Elohim, the first group? (sp?) I think that's where he named them anyway, I missed that one for some reason and was home in Yelm. I have a fuzzy memory on those details. Way back then I recall absolutely no photos were allowed to be taken of JZ/Ram when channeling, so I am very surprised to hear there is a video from 1987. All I remember are tons of tapes that you could buy when you attended an event or weekend retreat. The initial teaching about the DTC, as I recall, did say to move from the coasts, have a small farm, be off the grid, have a well, garden, chickens, generator, solar, etc. No UGs--that teaching came later. No lizard people. There was some paranoia about people fleeing the cities when it all fell apart, starving, looking to raid our hovels and farms.

When did the change come with all the photos and marketing of Ramtha? Was it concurrent with the drug use and wine ceremony?

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Robair » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:29 pm

Hello guys
I have the set.

This was taped in Denver may 17-18 1986
Estes Park was later AD can tell you the exact date I think she was there.
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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Indigo » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:44 pm

Very interesting. I wonder how JZ explained doing the video vs the no photo rules at that time?

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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Sad Grandfather » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:34 pm

I'm sure it went like this - - - - No photos are allowed, because I'm making this video and if you want it, you can BUY a copy.
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Re: First DTCome Video

Unread post by Justtruth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:33 pm

The initial teaching about the DTC, as I recall, did say to move from the coasts, have a small farm, be off the grid, have a well, garden, chickens, generator, solar, etc. No UGs--that teaching came later. No lizard people. There was some paranoia about people fleeing the cities when it all fell apart, starving, looking to raid our hovels and farms.


The above advice is one I did not mind and it was always my dream to manifest and I did and I am very happy to be out of the city.

I have incorporated that with living a life I love, I feel like one of the lucky ones, because I would go to an event, travel and go off and live my life and in 20 years, I probably only went to 2 manditory retreats. I kept starting over and it I missed so much abuse that is going on now.

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