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Ah yes, Ramtha featured in Time Magazine

Unread post by Ockham » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:45 pm

Oh yes the old Cro-Magnon guy has had a write-up in Time, but maybe not the pie eyed prose the old boy was hoping for...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 24,00.html
And Now, the 35,000-Year-Old Man
By Cristina Garcia/Seattle Friday, Jan. 26, 2007

Sitting cross-legged on pillows that they had brought from their hotel rooms, the crowd of 700 neatly dressed middle-aged and middle-class couples were mesmerized by the tall, slender, blond woman in front of them. Dressed in a starched white Oriental tunic over gray sweat pants and sneakers, J.Z. Knight, 40, sat on a makeshift stage in a sturdy armchair surrounded by a veritable garden of lavender flowers. Her voice, almost preternaturally husky, seemed to take on a gamut of accents from European to Indian as she spouted a relentless stream of imperatives about self-reliance and the god within. "You will receive what you want," she said. "You are masters of your destiny." Every so often she would animatedly cry out to her listeners, "Get it?," to which they would roar back, "Got it!" Many in the audience were weeping or laughing, or both. Two of Knight's assistants trailed her as she snaked her way through the crowd, providing tissues or cups of water as necessary.
J.Z. Knight is a housewife from the farming community of Yelm, Wash., about 50 miles south of Seattle. But to the 700 people who paid $400 apiece over Thanksgiving to attend her weekend seminar at the Doubletree Plaza Hotel outside Seattle, Knight is the conduit for the distant voice of Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old "warrior." (That would make Ramtha a contemporary of Cro-Magnon man, giving new meaning to General MacArthur's statement that old soldiers never die.) According to Knight, Ramtha speaks, or "channels," his wisdom and prophecy through her. Ramtha first spoke to her in 1977, she says, when she was experimenting with crystal pyramids.
Knight is one of dozens of so-called channelers who purport to be mediums for "spirit guides" long dead and buried, or those from "different dimensions." Most of these channelers are clustered in the Pacific Northwest. The more established ones, like Knight and California-based Jack Pursel, who channels a rather likable spirit named Lazaris, have built up multi-million-dollar businesses to market themselves and their wisdom through weekend seminars and audio- and videocassettes. On a lesser scale, such channelers as Hossca Harrison ("Jonah") in Boulder, or Paul Tuttle ("Raj") in Bellingham, Wash., make a comfortable living through private and group consultations.
For an increasing number of middle- and upper middle-class Americans (as well as celebrities like Shirley MacLaine) the channeling movement seems to offer an exotic way to spiritual fulfillment. Over the past few years, hundreds of families, inspired by their spirit guides, have left behind conventional lives and migrated to the Northwest.
The growth of channeling is a part of the larger New Age movement, an apparent outgrowth of the counterculture of the 1960s. An amorphous amalgam of mystical groups that take a "holistic" approach to everything from business to gardening, the movement adds an overlay of Eastern mysticism to the '60s-era rejection of materialism and the Establishment. Through a variety of techniques that may include meditation, yoga, hypnosis and fealty to a guru, the movement blissfully hopes for a new age of spiritual and social harmony.
The people who have come to listen to Ramtha cut across class lines. Lloyd White, 45, a former Realtor who lives with his wife and two children in Lansdowne, Pa., has come to hear Ramtha because the prophet, he says, "encourages independence and individualism." That is one reason, he says, that he plans to pull up stakes and move his family to Washington this spring. Lori Sundberg, 26, a limousine driver from Hawaii, sobs uncontrollably while Ramtha is preaching. Raised as a Mormon, she has dabbled in Buddhism, and heard her first Ramtha tape seven months ago. "It affected me very strongly. I felt Ramtha's love, and I knew there was no negativity in it." Ron Crosier, 41, an electronics specialist from New York, expresses it a different way. "I've been exposed to all the major world religions and found them too limiting. For the first time in my life, I'm hearing what I know inside me."
Ramtha's "teachings" seem to consist of bits and pieces taken from so-called human-potential movements like est and the pop incarnations of Zen Buddhism. The central tenet seems to be a sure crowd pleaser: that everyone is his or her own god. "God the Father lives within each of us," Ramtha says. Nor is Ramtha hung up on morality: there is no right or wrong, he says, just individual reality. Channelers insist that the spirit guides put people in touch with their own innate power to control their destinies.
Knight seems to be controlling her particular destiny very well, and very profitably. A staff of 14 helps organize her semimonthly seminars and produce her slick brochures, and an expensive media consultant in Los Angeles often speaks for her. In her spare time, she and her husband raise Arabian horses on their ranch in Yelm. Knight says she was a reluctant channeler at first. "I was bitter because there would be days out of my life I could never live again," says Knight, who claims she is in an unconscious state while Ramtha speaks through her. "But it was helping so many people that I realized it was a small price to pay."
Some psychologists see the movement as consisting of those who have become disillusioned with organized religion and are seeking something to fill a spiritual void. Others see more ominous, cultlike currents in channeling and dismiss its practitioners as latter-day snake-oil sales men. "A lot of the stuff is just trite and repeated over and over again," says Carl Raschke, a professor of religion at the University of Denver who has studied the phenomenon. "I'm convinced there is some kind of mass hypnosis going on." Observes Reginald Alev, executive director of the Cult Awareness Network in Chicago: "Ramtha reminds me of a ventriloquist's act with one partner missing."

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Re: Ah yes, Ramtha featured in Time Magazine

Unread post by Jingz » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:40 pm

Okay, this article is dated January 26, 2007, and says jz is 40? For Time magazine you'd think they'd have the facts, or did she purposely lie? Good article anyhow, obviously you can't fool all the people all the time!

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Re: Ah yes, Ramtha featured in Time Magazine

Unread post by joe sz » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:27 am

I think the article may have been referencing an old 1984 video but it is a poorly researched article overall.
tall, slender, blond woman in front of them. Dressed in a starched white Oriental tunic over gray sweat pants and sneakers, J.Z. Knight, 40,
tall? slender? :lol:

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Re: Ah yes, Ramtha featured in Time Magazine

Unread post by WofthesunEofthemoon » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:09 pm

I suppose she was, once, Joe, though I can't speak to the 'tall' bit. Many people were taken in by her looks and presentation, many years ago. However, looks never respresented the truth of a person.


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Re: Ah yes, Ramtha featured in Time Magazine

Unread post by joe sz » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:49 pm

by age 40 and before, as I recall, JZ already had an 'up and down" weight gain problem. But of course, she was cute in her younger years, a 'head turner, voted 'prettiest girl' in high school. Looks like that can increase self image issues unless the personality driving it sustains a strong reality testing. Hers broke down early on, it appears, and the quasi-male Ramtha persona is the glaring evidence of deep insecurity.

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