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RSE Big news, Elenin is not a comet, it is a spaceship!

Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:07 am

For the EMF record.
"Elenin is not a comet, it is a spaceship" demonstates the crippling lack of critical thinking when adhering to the RSE 'state of mind'. :-?
http://www.mastersconnection.com/newsle ... h2011.html
We delayed publishing this week’s newsletter because of the event yesterday.
We wanted to make sure that you had the latest information available on the issues that concern our readership.
Big news; Elenin is not a comet, it is a spaceship on its way to join the other spaceships that are already here and crowding the earth’s upper atmosphere.
I will not attempt to explain their mission
—I will leave that to Ramtha.
I will only say it is reassuring to know that they are here because our awakening species is important to them.
RSE Comet Elenin is spaceship Masters connection Sept 4 2011.jpg
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Related:Heaven's Gate Comet Hale-Bopp.
Heaven's Gate was an American UFO religion based in San Diego, California,
founded in the early 1970s and led by Marshall Applewhite (1931–1997) and Bonnie Nettles (1928–1985).[1] On March 26, 1997,
police discovered the bodies of 39 members of the group who had committed suicide[2]
in order to reach what they believed was an alien space craft which was following the Comet Hale-Bopp, which was at its brightest.

Heaven's Gate (religious group) - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven
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Re: Big news; Elenin is not a comet, it is a spaceship

Unread post by Rooster » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:47 am

That story had so many scared to death. Even now the comet evaporated, some still claim it is a ship and is just hiding. How crazy this whole story was. Nasa even had a website anwering questions from frantic people, inquiring about the space ship. They said it was crazy but we have to address this situation. Nasa also realized there was no convincing some of the people that insisted they were covering up the truth. :roll:

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Unread post by preeatenna » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:51 am

I believe that Scamtha told us at the time that Hale-Bopp was an alien space craft, not a comet, and then of course, trotted out the same nonsence about Elenin.I don't know how s/he justifies "going back to shis past" like that. Could shis "vast" mind be running out of scenarios?

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Re: Big news; Elenin is not a comet, it is a spaceship

Unread post by Rooster » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:02 am

I remember the Hale-bopp tale as well. Same stupid thing as elenin. First it was a ship following the comet, then the comet it self later was to be a ship. And yes, that was the heavens gate story. There are many other cults with the same scenario. David Icke and the whole galatic federation thing.They all seem to be pulling in some good money with these stupid scams.

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Unread post by Sad Grandfather » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:29 am

No doubt all these ships crowding our upper atmosphere would have to be Romulans and they are "cloaking" so they are invisible. :roll: :lol:
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Unread post by Rooster » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:30 am

Obviosly Grandfather!! Lol, Better get your copper hat on!

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Unread post by ex » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:27 am

sg that's insider knowledge. since you do not belong to a cult and don't pay someone for this knowledge you must be a romulan agent. or are you a klingon?

just kidding.

after all the initial money is gone and the fabulous technics of rse don't work to bring the investment back. students hit the ground and have to take on a somewhat normal life. there is still the effort to include the teachings and justify them.

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Unread post by Ockham » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:00 pm

Darn those aliens crowding the stratosphere! Don't they know all those space ships are messing up my satellite TV? The signal keeps going out. I thought it was just the rain, but it must be their fat green alien fannies getting in the way of the signal.

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Unread post by Sad Grandfather » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:30 pm

ex wrote:sg that's insider knowledge. since you do not belong to a cult and don't pay someone for this knowledge you must be a romulan agent.
Darn! Ya got me! :oops: We'll be leaving now! :mrgreen:
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Unread post by joe sz » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:43 pm

comet Kohoutek was used by Children of God cult leader Moses David Berg as a herald of endtimes in 1974.
In 1973, David Berg, founder of the Children of God, predicted that Comet Kohoutek foretold a colossal doomsday event in the United States in January 1974. Children of God members distributed Berg's messages, which warned of impending doom, across the country. The majority of U.S.-based members then fled in anticipation to existing group communes (or formed new ones) around the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Kohoutek

btw, Virginia.
I posted a preliminary review of Child of the Cult on my site...Nori Muster's ebook mentions Berg and his comet prophecy..
http://jszimhart.com/book_reviews/child ... ori_muster

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:37 pm

Thanks for that Joe, everyone.
Common Cult Tactics = Feed the Fear :shock:
(RSE circa 1990)... I remember being horrified when ‘Ramtha’ predicted that “Nature” was about to 'clean up the planet’ to rid the world of the nasty vermin called humanity.
But there is hope folkies!..
in order to make ourselves ‘worthy of nature’ just dedicate our lives to ‘the great work’ and don’t forget to dig those underground bunkers.
If that wasn’t dire enough, ‘Jehovah’ with an army of flesh eating reptilians are on their way with a massive fleet of UFO’s to invade Earth.
So best cover your underground bunkers with copper foil to avoid being undetected from the ’raiders from above’!
No real need to worry about 'Jehovah’ folks... as 'Ramtha' has a much bigger and more powerful UFO.. :roll:
Oh yes… for those of us that move to Yelm / RSE from foreign lands that left your families behind
don’t worry about them as 'Ramtha' promises to protect them.... just so long as you dedicate your lives to RSE.
After the apocalypse is over.. we can begin to seed the planet with the power of healing and enlightenment we have mastered at RSE :-?
What I have just described is no exaggeration.
This constant hammering and spreading fear and paranoia has been going on from day one at RSE.
Judith and her handlers understand full well that fear works to sell the R$E products and services by effectively undermining critical thinking of the RSE customers.
But this atrocious fear mongering and paranoia has to be constant otherwise the light of reason returns to dispel the RSE BS.
How powerful is this indoctrinated fear and superstition at RSE?
For many former students just posting on EMF took enormous courage..
Now there's a simple clue :idea:

It is time to let go of the fear.

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Religion's Role in Doomsday Hoaxes.
If all the 2012 doomsday theories can be so easily discredited, then why on Earth are we so whipped up into a frenzy over it?
This is down to human instinct; to be constantly on the lookout for threats to our survival, and to wonder about where our future is leading.
Some religious leaders exploit this trait to create fear and develop a devout following. People who are depressed and lost in the world are especially vulnerable to this kind of propaganda; they find comfort in the thought of the rapture ending their Earthly pain and taking them to "a better place".
Unfortunately, people become believers in 2012 for lack of critical thinking. They jump on the bandwagon and feel safer - special, even - to be one of the ones who saw it coming. Of course, their doomsday project will fall flat one day, but until then, believers will pour a whole lot of energy into this egregious hoax.
The Media's Role in Doomsday Hoaxes
What if you're not religious but still feel an emotional tug every time someone mentions December 21, 2012? Then you are a victim of the sensationalist media.
For the same human instinct described above, you thrive on the idea of knowing your future - however apocalyptic it may be. If your life isn't quite happy enough in it's current form, you are excited by the idea of society's collapse and a fresh start for all those who survive. This kind of existence is glorified by post-apocalyptic movies like Waterworld, Resident Evil, Zombieland and others.
Meanwhile, Hollywood latches onto pseudo-science to create end-of-the-world scenarios in an attempt to create action-packed movie plots. Which of these Hollywood movies have contributed to your fear of 2012: Knowing, 2012, The Core, Armageddon, Deep Impact, The Day After Tomorrow? Are you willing or unwilling to separate fact from fiction?

Hoax #1 - The Discovery of Planet X (Nibiru)
The reason so many people are asking "what will happen in 2012?" goes back to 1976 when Zecharia Stichin published The 12th Planet. In this book, he said the Sumerians had identified a twelfth body called Nibiru with a 3600-year orbit.

Hoax #2 - The End of The Mayan Calendar
With Planet X and 2012 in the public eye, it wasn't long before conspiracy theorists realized the year coincided with the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar. Surely this was real proof that the world will end in 2012! Erm... no

Hoax #3 - Planetary Alignment
For some reason, a lot of people think that all the planets will fall into perfect alignment on December 21, 2012. Could this spell the end for mankind?

Hoax #3 - Planetary Alignment
For some reason, a lot of people think that all the planets will fall into perfect alignment on December 21, 2012. Could this spell the end for mankind?

Hoax #4 - Polar Shift
Planet Earth is surrounded by a magnetic field which undergoes a reversal (north switching magnetic poles with south) on average every 400,000 years. Judging by the current level of movement, we can predict the next reversal will be within the next 1,000-3,000 years. But definitely not within the timeframe of 2012.

Hoax #5 - Solar Storms
Perhaps the most credible theory of all is solar storms. And yet it still doesn't spell the end of life as we know it.
The sun has regular peaks and troughs of activity, with peaks occurring about every 11 years. In the past, solar flares occurring during the peak period have caused some disruption of satellite communications, but these days engineers are building electronics that are protected from most solar storms.
There is no denying the next peak in solar activity will occur in 2012-2014, but it is expected to be an average cycle. In any case, we are well prepared for solar flares and these should be no different from any other period in history.

What Will Happen in 2012? The Truth about 2012 Predictions
http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/ ... -2012.html
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Unread post by Eddie » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:11 am

I was at the event when this was said that the comet was a spaceship. Scamtha added that, "NASA webpage states the same; you just have to read inbetween the lines".

Prior to the event i read NASA's webpage; it clearly bebunked all silly myths. I told my "partner" at the event this, and she responded that Scamtha must be right so she won't have to read the NASA webpage herself.

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Unread post by seriously » Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:22 pm

‘Jehovah’ with an army of flesh eating reptilians are on their way with a massive fleet of UFO’s to invade Earth.
So best cover your underground bunkers with copper foil to avoid being undetected from the ’raiders from above’.
The cringe factor when reading things like this is so overpowering. Everyone that was at RSE in the 80s, 90s and probably currently knows about all the alien and doomsday scenarios. When your youth/young adulthood is saturated with crap like this, it's hard not to be resentful when you become an adult and have the confidence, knowledge and experience to think logically. One is forced to wonder how adults they trusted could believe things like this and cram it down their throats.

If you're active at RSE and believe the end times are near, PLEASE don't inundate your kids with these beliefs. It will be emotionally damaging and when they are older and all of the ridiculous predictions are proven false, they'll resent you for it. Your rebuttal will be, "I'm doing it for them because I want to save them". I understand how and why you believe this but IT'S ALL BS. Try and consider this possibility for a moment. If none of the doomsday predictions come to pass, all you've done is add layer upon layer of fear, depression and unease on your children.

It's comforting and reassuring to have those around you believe in the same things you do. Don't sabotage your children's youth to reinforce your RSE belief system. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM and exudes selfishness and weakness.

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:18 am

Judith pulled some of her alien material from nutters like Linda Moulton Howe.
Her book Alien Harvest (1989) was sold at R$E.
There was so much fear and paranoia stirred up by this sort of crap there were many RSE students afraid of twinkling stars or to go out alone at night. :-?
Here are some 'cringe factor' 'Ramtha' quotes circa RSE - 1989.
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'Ramtha'
"They are the raiders from above. And yes, they have created specimens like in a laboratory. They have control over you because their power of thought is magnanimous. They can pick up matter and assimilate it. They can hypnotize you in a moment, distort your time, put you to sleep and everything in the surrounding area with a thought. That's how powerful they are. They have been doing interbreeding with you for a very long time. They have kidnapped the human species, endeavored to take them to their place, to breed them"

"There are women in this very audience who have been kidnapped, who have been copulated with, and whose child has been taken. You have children in another world. But, those children belong to that world. They are reseeding the human emotion. They like things and they don't like things. Those great luminance eyes of theirs.
When their ship comes after you, you won't remember it. And, if your nose bleeds a lot, it's because they got you. They have a connection with you and will for the rest of your life."
- The Skeptic's Dictionary - cattle mutiliation Skepdic.com
http://www.skepdic.com/cattle.html
"And it is certainly pointless to describe the experiment done by the Washington County (Arkansas) Sheriff's Department. They placed a dead cow in a field and had observers watch what happened over the next 48 hours. When they reported that bloating led to incision-like tears in the skin and that blowflies and maggots had cleaned out the soft tissue so that the carcass looked exactly like those that had been attributed to aliens or satanic cultists, they were generally ignored by the community of true believers."

"Typical of the alien surgeon accounts is that given in An Alien Harvest (1989) by Linda Moulton Howe, which includes photographs of wounds described as weird, bizarre, suspicious and inexplicable. She claims that her photos reveal

for the first time that tissue gathered from mutilator cuts in Arkansas on March 11, 1989, revealed the following characteristics under microscopic examination: 1) The line is pinpoint thin; 2) The line was subjected to high heat, probably 300 degrees Fahrenheit or above, leaving a hard and darkened edge; 3) The cuts were made rapidly, probably in two minutes or less, because there is no inflammatory cell destruction which typically begins in a few minutes after any trauma to tissue (See contrasting photomicrographs).

The photographs are considered to be "scientific proof" of unnatural happenings, even though the scientific community considers such photos to be of little significance. Even if the photos are not doctored, they need no explanation in terms of alien surgeons. But there is no point in suggesting anything earthly as probably being responsible for the cattle deaths or conditions, since those explanations have already been ruled out by such experts as Howe. The wounds are too weird, the lack of blood too bizarre, the coincidences too many, they say, for any naturalistic explanation.

Besides, if there were earthly explanations, one could not invoke the favored government conspiracy theory to juice up the story. Cattle mutilations are not only associated with UFO sightings, alien abductions, and crop circles, they are linked to black helicopter sightings as well. This suggests to the well-trained conspiratorial mind that our military forces are testing new weapons on the livestock of unsuspecting citizen ranchers. It shouldn't surprise anyone to find that the military thinks it is OK to experiment on cattle surreptitiously, since they've done it on people in the past. Another possibility, according to UFOlogists, is that the helicopters are UFOs disguised to appear as terrestrial craft. Some even think that the aliens have been in collusion with the Air Force for the past 30 years and that the animal mutilations are being performed by aliens with the full knowledge of our military. We allow it because of some sort of treaty the U.S. government supposedly signed with the aliens. You would think that such intelligent beings might have worked out a better arrangement.

Of course, inquiring minds want to know why beings with the intelligence and power to travel billions of miles to our planet would spend their time mutilating cows, experimenting on otherwise unremarkable people, or carving up wheat fields. They need cow blood and glands for food and experiments. They are harvesting enzymes and are working on a genetic engineering project that will blend the Gray race (the aliens) with a Nordic race so they can interface with humans better. They are altering cow DNA to create some sort of artificial life form. They are carving up wheat fields with ever more elaborate designs to impress upon us how intelligent they are. Why would they come here and behave so preposterously? They're aliens and are beyond our comprehension. Nothing is preposterous for beings who are beyond our comprehension.
cattle mutiliation - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com
http://www.skepdic.com/cattle.html
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Unread post by Ockham » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:56 am

RSE students could save a lot of money if they listened to the radio for free instead of paying for, "events," at Judy's ranch. George Noory has Linda Moulton Howe doing contrived interviews with alien abductees, and assorted wack-o types almost every week on the Radio Show AM Coast to Coast. Add in the fake astronomer Richard Hoagland, and you have a complete package. George Noorry had Joe Dispenza on the show a few months ago, and even JZ Knight herself was on the show last year.

All this is free on George Noory's radio show if you can stand to listen to some advertising for survival food and gold investing scams. No, wait,... you get that at RSE too! Gee, it really is just the same!

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