http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9yDssY6 ... re=related -- In this video it is stated that "Ramtha" appeared to JZ Knight on February 7, 1977.
Then when you listen to the video below, while she is on the Merv Griffin show which aired in 1985, "Ramtha" supposedly appeared to JZ Knight on February 18.
How can February 7, 1977 and February 18 both be a Sunday? How can that be? There is no way both of those days could have been a Sunday. If the day was supposedly so memorable "when Ramtha appeared to JZ Knight" why is it stated as a different date in many videos? It be interesting to know if either of the dates indicated above were actually a Sunday back in 1977.
Do I detect a lie?
http://www.enlightenmefree.com/phpbb3/p ... &start=100
Here's what I wrote:
Just discovered something INTERESTING! Judith on Merv Griffin show in 1985 mentioned that Ramtha appeared to her on a Sunday afternoon on Feb 18, 1977. (Feb 18, 1977 is actually Friday!)
In the old 'A Look Within' video from RSE, the date Ramtha appeared to Judith is Sunday afternoon but on Feb 7, 1977. This is mentioned at the beginning of the video. The school also has a DVD called The Quintessential School of the Mind (my copy was produced in 2005) and there is 'A Look Within' segment there and Ramtha appeared to Judith on Sunday afternoon, Feb 7, 1977. (Feb 7, 1977 is actually Monday!)
Wikipedia states Ramtha appeared on Feb 7, 1977. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Z._Knight
From RSE website, it is Sunday afternoon, Feb 20, 1977 that Ramtha appeared to Judith. http://www.ramtha.com/html/aboutus/faqs/jz/who.stm
The most accurate answer is the RSE website ie Feb 20, 1977 which is Sunday.
http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/mon ... &country=1
Hmmm, you would think she would remember esp on Merv Griffin show in 1985 as it wasn't that long after. Obviously, someone on RSE website checked the calendar when they rewrote the history of the day when Ramtha appeared to Judith.
I can only guess RSE's reply: There are different potentials when Ramtha appeared. Another red flag!
QuestionGirl, I also found another discrepancy in her own book, A State of Mind. Here's my post from the above link.
I was browsing through Judith's book, 'A Sate of Mind'. Eventhough I've read it years ago, I did not notice this discrepancy. I've been to a few of her introductory lectures where she told her story about how Ramtha appeared to her. She would always mentioned how she was just a happy housewife, married to her husband then, the dentist (his profession adds credibility to her story). She also mentioned this on Merv Griffin show. What I discovered now is that from her book on Page 279, she was single in Jan, 1977 and decided her family needed a 'masuline influence in their lives'. On page 280, she also prayed that 'she did not need to work and provide for her family'. (Funny that as Ramtha has mentioned in a negative way about women that don't work and expect their husbands to provide). So she and her friends went to the Roadway Lounge where businessmen, doctors, lawyers, ($$$) etc hang out. That's where she met the dentist presumably in Jan, 1977. About a month later in Feb (whatever day), 1977, Ramtha appeared to her. She wasn't exactly a 'housewife' in the proper sense as she only met the dentist in Jan. In her own book on Page 287, she married the dentist on Aug 27, 1977, 6 months after Ramtha appeared to her. She 'became a happy housewife and mother'. These are her words. Then why does she perpetuate the lie that she was a happily married housewife to a dentist when Ramtha appeared. She only met the dentist about a month ago. Hmmm... More disinformation...
Lies and deception ...
Will anyone ever know the real truth behind her stories?
Well, here?s another discrepancy?
On page 209, Judy or Mrs. Hensley (as she was called then) said to her boss: ?When I was in New Mexico, some of my workers gave me the nickname Zebra because I wore a lot of black and white.?
Thus, the name ?JZ? was born. (Knight would be a great surname that goes with JZ).
The ?zebra story? can also be found on Page 253 of the newer edition (2004):
http://books.google.com/books?id=ImuRDD ... +jz+knight
Contrast this to JZ?s statement now and taken from RSE?s website (link below):
?Judy gains the nickname of "Zebra" due to her ability to make black and white decisions; (this moniker was later to be abbreviated into the familiar "JZ").?
Her story seems to improve with age or the right marketing person.
In ?A State of Mind? (1987), JZ met an actors' agent, Lynn de Shane while living in California (pp. 210, 218). Lynn knew Richard Chamberlain (p. 218). Lynn suggested JZ ?act? in a movie but she declined (p. 221). She thought of being a movie star once (p. 262). Just about everyone (many male admirers) in the book thought JZ was ?beautiful? then. Instead of being a Hollywood actress, I think JZ decided to be a ?channel? actress.
Richard Chamberlain (aka Dr. Kildare) was JZ?s favorite movie star (p. 83). JZ had channeled Ramtha in Richard Chamberlain?s home where Jeff Knight first met Ramtha (p. 22, link below). I did wonder about Richard Chamberlain?s connection to JZ.
http://www.rigoroushonesty.net/siterun_ ... 080100.PDF
May be this explains JZ?s fascination with her ?beauty? and movie stars (her best friends)?
I'm not even sure why they brag about this as if it's a good thing -- usually higher maturity levels and attributes associated with being "wise" come with the ability to see and make decisions in gray areas. "Black and white" thinking is considered a more dysfunctional behavior.Judy gains the nickname of "Zebra" due to her ability to make black and white decisions; (this moniker was later to be abbreviated into the familiar "JZ").?
In the interview with Les, Ramtha appeared to JZ in Feb 1978 (not 1977) and she was definitely "married" to the dentist. JZ mentioned that her dentist husband also saw Ramtha and he appeared to "us" again. She changed her story since "A State of Mind" as she was the only one that saw Ramtha.
Contrast http://www.ramtha.com which looks like an advertisement inviting people to pay for the cultic veneration of JZ Knight to...
Delphi University of Spiritual Studies http://www.delphiu.com/index.htm. Imagine a spiritual school where you actually can finish the curriculum and earn an accredited degree! What a difference. There is no bullshit about tidal waves, solar flares and earth quakes. You learn to be a channel yourself, instead of paying to listen to JZ Knight channel foul mouth diatribe about the Catholic church.
Now whatever happened to Comet Elenin. That story just dropped away.
It is funny that JZ never offered any explanations to her failed predictions.
None. Surely she or her handlers could have come up with something !
The Zebra story I recalled -and the only one I knew of - is that her mother in law, from an early marriage -didn't like JZ's blonde hair and had her dye it black. Eventually,as it grew back out to blond, she was knick-named Judy the Zebra.
In my personal opinion Scamtha is an energy vampire.
Yes, Judy zebra.. That is the same story I recall as well. Please continue to share with us, your story as well as everyone's here is so important to my healing! It's all about human connection for me now (I was so incredibly isolated in and after leaving r$e) and I connect so much with everyone here.
Thank you for your post!