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Thurston County, Washington, Code of Ordinances >> Title 6 - BUSINESS LICENSES AND REGULATIONS >> Chapter 6.56 - INTOXICATING LIQUOR >>
Chapter 6.56 - INTOXICATING LIQUOR.

EMF Comment:
During some events, RSE holds "wine ceremonies" during which participants are encouraged to supply, consume and share wine. Does RSE have the required state issued license to allow such alcohol use on its premises?


Sections:
6.56.010 - State license required.
6.56.020 - Penalty for violation.


6.56.010 - State license required.
It is unlawful for any club or other establishment in Thurston County to have, keep, sell, store, dispense or permit to be consumed upon its premises any intoxicating liquor other than beer or wines when duly licensed therefor unless its premises or the person, firm or corporation owning or operating the same has a valid and subsisting class "H" license as issued under the laws of the state of Washington, and rules and regulations of the Washington State Liquor Board.
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Thurston County, Washington, Code of Ordinances >> Title 14 - BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTION >> Chapter 14.32 - INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE* >>

Chapter 14.32 - INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE*

EMF Comment:
Does RSE's water system provide adequate flow to its sprinkler systems and when was this last tested or inspected?
In the event of power failure, is there provision for water to be pumped/delivered to the sprinkler system?
Has the Fire Marshal established the minimum residual pressure?
With the fire and smoke alarm system at RSE has a copy of the current maintenance contract been provided to the Fire Marshal?
RSE OVERCROWDED AND SMOKE-FILLED ARENA FIRE AND SMOKE ALARMS DISABLED.jpg
14.32.015 - Section 508.1 amended—Required water supply for fire protection.
International Fire Code Section 508.1 is amended to read as follows:
508.1 Required Water Supply for Fire Protection. An  approved water supply capable of supplying the required fire flow for fire protection shall be provided to all premises upon which facilities, buildings or portions of buildings are hereafter constructed or moved into or within the jurisdiction. When any portion of a building that requires protection is in excess of 150 feet from a water supply on a public street, as measured by an unobstructed route around the exterior of the building, there shall be provided, when required by the chief, on-site fire hydrants and mains capable of supplying the required fire flow.
EXCEPTIONS: 
Group U Occupancies. 1. 
Private residences and their accessory structures, 2.  except as otherwise specified in the Thurston County Water Design Standard.
All other occupancies when the largest Fire Area as 3.  defined in Appendix B is less than 1,000 square feet.
14.32.090 - Section 906 supplemented—Fire extinguisher maintenance.
In addition to the requirements of Section 906, all portable fire extinguishers shall be subject to internal maintenance at least annually and when specifically indicated by an inspection. However, internal maintenance is not required on portable C02 fire extinguishers that are maintained per International Fire Code Standard 10-1.
(Ord. 13178 § 14 (part), 2004)
14.32.095 - Section 907 amended—Fire alarm requirements.
International Fire Code Section 907 is amended to read as follows:
907.20.1.1 Maintenance. Fire alarm systems required  under this chapter shall have in effect a maintenance contract with a fire alarm company. Maintenance contracts shall specify service of the fire alarm system with the response time guidelines meeting the minimum requirements for Alarm Central Station systems. A copy of the current maintenance contract shall be provided to the Fire Marshal. See Section 901.6.2
907.20.2.2 Record of inspection. A hard copy of  inspection and testing reports including quarterly/ semi-annual reports shall be submitted to the Fire Marshal Office within 10 working days following performance of the annual system inspection and testing. Additionally, immediate notification of the Fire Marshal Office is required following any inspection or testing which identifies system deficiencies. Forms provided by the Fire Marshal's office or the equivalent of shall be utilized.
(Ord. 13178 § 14 (part), 2004)
14.32.110 - Appendix B amended—Fire-flow requirements.
International Fire Code Appendix B is amended to read as follows:
Scope. This appendix is the procedure for determining 1.  fire-flow requirements for all buildings hereafter constructed. This appendix is not intended to apply to structures other than buildings. The fire-flow requirements are the quantity of water in gallons per minute needed to control an anticipated fire in a building or group of buildings. Fire flow shall be as per requirements of the adjoining urban jurisdiction throughout all new or substantially improved buildings exceeding 7,500 square feet within the Lacey, Olympia or Tumwater urban growth boundary where municipal fire flow is supplied.
The chief shall establish the minimum residual pressure. 
Definitions: 2. 
  FIRE AREA is the total floor area in square feet for all floor levels within the exterior walls, or under the horizontal projection of the roof of a building. Each portion of a building separated by a firewall constructed in accordance with the International Building Code may be considered as separate fire areas for the purposes of determining the required fire flow.
  LIMITED SUPPLY SPRINKLER SYSTEM is an integrated system of piping and listed fire protection devices installed in accordance with nationally recognized standards connected to a water supply capable of providing the required density for the most remote four (4) sprinkler heads. Limited supply sprinkler systems shall be installed in accordance with provisions as set forth by the county fire marshal.
Modifications. The fire-flow requirement shall be 3.  adjusted based on the occupancy classification as specified in Table B-B.
The fire-flow requirement for buildings protected with  an automatic fire sprinkler system or a limited supply sprinkler system may be reduced up to fifty percent (50%) provided such system is monitored by an approved central station.
The fire-flow requirement for buildings protected  throughout, with an approved automatic fire detection system including central station monitoring installed in accordance with the provisions of International Fire Code Chapter 9, may be reduced an additional 250 gallons per minute.
Fire-flow. Requirements for Buildings. The minimum 4.  fire-flow for buildings shall be determined from Table B-A based on the largest fire area and modified by the applicable provisions contained in subsection 3.
EXCEPTION: 
Buildings which require 500 gallons per minute or 1.  less following all applicable modifications are exempt from the fire flow requirement.
Buildings protected with an approved automatic fire 2.  sprinkler system installed in accordance with nationally recognized standards need only provide the required water supply for the system design, provided such systems is not otherwise required.
Water supplies shall be capable of providing the  required flow for at least one hour for flows of 2,000 gallons per minute or less and for two hours for flows greater than 2,000 gallons per minute.
In types I and II-F.R. construction, only the three (3)  largest successive floor areas shall be used.
TABLE B-A
FIRE-FLOW GUIDE FOR BUILDINGS OTHER THAN
PRIVATE RESIDENCES
CONSTRUCTION TYPE
FIRE FLOW
(GALLONS I A&B II-A IV-H.T. II - BM
PER MINUTE) II A III A V-A III-B V-B
TOTAL FIRE AREA IN SQUARE FEET 
500 5,500 3,700 2,600 2,100 1,600
750 7,800 5,000 3,500 2,700 2,000
1,000 11,100 6,800 4,700 3,500 2,400
1,250 15,900 9,300 6,200 4,500 2,900
1,500 22,750 12,700 8,200 5,900 3,600
1,750 30,200 17,000 10,900 7,900 4,800
2,000 38,700 21,800 12,900 9,800 6,200
2,250 48,300 24,200 17,400 12,600 7,700
2,500 59,000 33,200 21,300 15,400 9,400
2,750 70,900 39,700 25,500 18,400 11,300
3,000 83,700 47,100 31,100 21,800 13,400
3,250 97,700 54,900 35,200 25,900 15,600
3,500 112,700 63,400 40,600 29,300 18,000
3,750 128,700 72,400 46,400 33,500 20,600
4,000 145,900 82,100 52,500 37,900 23,300
4,250 164,200 92,400 59,100 42,700 26,300
4,500 183,400 103,100 66,000 47,700 29,300
4,700 203,700 114,600 73,300 53,000 32,600
5,000 225,200 126,700 81,100 58,600 36,000
5,250 247,700 139,400 89,200 65,400 39,600
5,500 271,200 152,600 97,700 70,600 43,400
5,750 295,900 166,500 106,500 77,000 47,400
6,000 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 115,800 83,700 51,500
6,200 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 125,500 90,600 55,700
6,500 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 135,500 97,900 60,200
6,750 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 145,800 106,800 64,800
7,000 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 156,700 113,200 69,600
7,250 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 167,900 121,300 74,600
7,500 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 179,400 129,600 79,800
7,750 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED 191,400 138,300 85,100
8,000 UNLIMITED UNLIMITED UNLIMITED UNLIMITED UNLIMITED
TABLE NO. B-B
OCCUPANCY FIRE FLOW MODIFIERS
PERCENTAGE OF BASE FIRE FLOW CREDITS: OCCUPANCY GROUPS
-25% S-2, I-1, I-2, I-3, R-1, R-2
-20% E, Daycare, A-1, A-2, A-3, A-4
-15% E, I-4
-10% A-2, A-5, B, R-4

SURCHARGES:

10% S-1, M-FUEL DISPENSING
15% H-4, S-1 AIRCRAFT REPAIR, VEHICLE REPAIR
20% H-3
25% H-1, H-2, H-5
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20.34.020 - Limitations on accessory uses.
8. Parking or storage of small cargo trailers and major recreational equipment in residential and rural districts, including but not limited to boats, boat trailers, camping trailers, travel trailers, motorized dwellings, recreational vehicles, tent trailers, houseboats, and horse vans are subject to the following limitations:
c. Such equipment shall not be hooked up to utilities, sewage or septic, or water facilities unless located in a recreational vehicle park. An exception can be made for an electrical extension to prevent freezing, etc. when the recreational vehicle is being stored.

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Thurston County, Washington, Code of Ordinances >> Title 20 - ZONING >> Chapter 20.54 - SPECIAL USE* >>

Chapter 20.54 - SPECIAL USE*

EMF Comment:
There is significant impact on traffic patterns along the 510Hwy/Yelm hwy S.E. and along 93rd Avenue before, during and after RSE events.
There has been an ongoing increase of intensity of use at RSE. When was the special use permit reviewed through inspection during events?
Under what designation/classification are the special use permit issued to JZ Knight and what is the term of use granted for?
the most recent special use permit's expiration date was Febuary 2000
How many special use permits have been renewed or granted to JZ Knight; was there an inspection or evaluation conducted prior to subsequent to the issuing of special use permits?
Does JZ Knight have a special use permit to produce and/or conduct retail sales of products on site?
Does JZ Knight hold a special use permit to provide RV camping with electrical hook-ups on her property?
Has JZ Knight obtained permits from Thurston County Public Health & Social Services to operate or allow the operation of the following?
-A Mobile Food/Drink Unit for the coffee trailer located adjacent to the arena.
-A Food Establishment/Food court?

If JZ Knight is operating as a retreat facility, which seems to be the most appropriate classification listed under special use permits:

- The combined maximum building coverage far exceeds the allowed 20,000 square feet as outlined in section 34.3 a.
- The use of a single 20,000 square foot building is a violation under section 34.3 b.
- The absence of sight obscuring plantings along the 100 foot setback is a violation under section 34.3 d.



Sections:
20.54.010 - Purpose and intent.
20.54.015 - Approval authority.
20.54.020 - Authorization.
20.54.030 - Status of special use.
20.54.040 - General standards.
20.54.050 - Conditions and restrictions.
20.54.060 - Application for a special use.
20.54.065 - Applications for essential public facilities.
20.54.070 - Use—Specific standards.


20.54.010 - Purpose and intent.
Each zoning district lists special uses that, because of their special impact or unique characteristics, can have a substantial adverse impact upon or be incompatible with other uses of land. This impact often cannot be determined in advance of the use being proposed for a particular location. Such uses may be allowed to locate within given districts only through the review process of the special use permit and under the controls, limitations and regulations of such permits. This chapter establishes general and specific development standards for special uses and provides for a review process which will evaluate the location, scale, compatibility with rural character and development characteristics of such uses and their impact on adjacent properties and the community as a whole, to the end that such uses may be approved, modified, or disapproved fairly and objectively.
(Ord. 13235 § 13, 2004: Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 8216 § 108 (part), 1985)
20.54.015 - Approval authority.
1. Administrative Approval. Applications for the following types of special uses shall be reviewed and approved, modified or denied by the development services department:
a. Home occupations;
b. Expansions of nonconforming, nonresidential uses by no more than five percent;
c. Mobile or manufactured home parks (two to four mobile/manufactured homes per lot);
d. Temporary uses listed in Section 20.54.070(41.5)(b) in zoning districts shown on Table 1;
e. Attached or co-located WCFs within urban growth areas;
f. Remote freestanding WCF/antenna support structures that would not extend more than thirty feet above all adjacent trees within one hundred feet of the proposed WCF/antenna support structure location and would be located more than one mile from a residential district and co-located WCFs that do not require an increase in the height of the antenna support structure.
g. Family day care provider; and
h. Community club.
2. Hearing Examiner Approval. The approval authority for all other special use permits, including proposed expansions (greater than five percent) to or conversions of nonconforming, nonresidential uses, is the hearing examiner. (See Chapter 20.60.)
(Ord. 13235 § 14, 2004; Ord. 13058 § 3, 2003: Ord. 12463 § 17, 2001; Ord. 11867 § 1 (part), 1998; Ord. 11804 § 100, 1998: Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 11025 § 28, 1995: Ord. 8216 § 108 (part), 1985)
20.54.020 - Authorization.
When an application for a special use is filed with the development services department, the approval authority may authorize establishment of those uses that are expressly listed as special uses in a particular zoning district. No special use shall be issued unless the use complies with all of the applicable standards of this chapter and all other applicable requirements of this title.
(Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 8216 § 108 (part), 1985)
20.54.030 - Status of special use.
Any use for which a special use is authorized by the approval authority and which complies with the specific requirements of this chapter and those of other applicable chapters of this title shall be deemed to be a permitted use on the lot on which it is thus permitted. Once a special use has been authorized, however, the use shall not be enlarged, extended, increased in intensity, or relocated unless an application is made for a new or amended special use authorization.
(Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 8216 § 108 (part), 1985)
20.54.040 - General standards.
In addition to the specific standards set forth hereinafter with regard to particular special uses, all uses authorized as special uses shall meet the following standards:
1. Plans, Regulations, Laws. The proposed use at the specified location shall comply with the Thurston County Comprehensive Plan and all applicable federal, state, regional, and Thurston County laws or plans.
2. Underlying Zoning District. The proposed use shall comply with the general purposes and intent of the applicable zoning district regulations and subarea plans. Open space, lot, setback and bulk requirements shall be no less than that specified for the zoning district in which the proposed use is located unless specifically provided otherwise in this chapter.
3. Location. No application for a special use shall be approved unless a specific finding is made that the proposed special use is appropriate in the location for which it is proposed. This finding shall be based on the following criteria:
a. Impact. The proposed use shall not result in substantial or undue adverse effects on adjacent property, neighborhood character, natural environment, traffic conditions, parking, public property or facilities, or other matters affecting the public health, safety and welfare. However, if the proposed use is a public facility or utility deemed to be of overriding public benefit, and if measures are taken and conditions imposed to mitigate adverse effects to the extent reasonably possible, the permit may be granted even though the adverse effects may occur.
b. Services. The use will be adequately served by and will not impose an undue burden on any of the improvements, facilities, utilities, or services existing or planned to serve the area.
4. Time Limits.
a. Expiration of Approval. If a building permit has not been issued, or if construction activity or operation has not commenced within three years from the date of final approval, the special use permit shall expire. The special use permit shall also expire when the use or activity for which the permit was granted is vacated for a period of three years.
b. Upon the application of the owner or representative, the approval authority may grant a one year extension. In no case shall the approval authority grant an extension for more than one year at a time. If an extension of time is approved, the special use permit will be subject to all new and amended regulations, requirements, policies or standards which are adopted after the original date of approval.
c. Knowledge of the expiration date and initiation of a request for extension approval time is the responsibility of the applicant. The county is not responsible for providing notification prior to expiration. All requests for an extension of time must be submitted to the department prior to expiration of the special use permit.
d. Time Limit and Re-Review. Where the approval authority is the hearing examiner, there may be a condition to provide time limits for the use. If it is determined after review that the special use no longer meets the conditions set by the hearing examiner at the time of the initial approval, the use may be terminated, or such standards added as will achieve compliance with the original hearing examiner conditions.
5. Signs. In addition to the requirements of Chapter 20.40, the following provisions apply to uses approved by this chapter:
a. For home occupations and home-based industries, there shall be no more than one sign, not to exceed six square feet in area, and except for home occupations, may be attached to the structure housing the special use or may be freestanding. Freestanding signs shall not exceed forty-two inches in height measured from the ground to the top of the sign. Signs shall be unlit and shall use nonflashing, nonreflective materials. Colors shall be nongarish and consistent with residential character.
b. For home occupations, the sign shall be attached to the home or the structure housing the home occupation. Where the building is not visible from the nearest public road serving the property, one freestanding sign complying with the foregoing specifications may also be placed near the road.
c. For other uses consisting of a single business or use on a site in residential zoning district, there shall be no more than one two-faced sign not to exceed thirty-two square feet per side; or alternatively, two signs attached to the building below the roof line, or placed close to the building, with a combined square footage not to exceed thirty-two square feet.
d. Multi-business sites shall be governed by Chapter 20.40.
(Ord. 12463 § 18, 2001; Ord. 11804 § 101, 1998; Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 8216 § 108 (part), 1985)
Table 1
Special Uses—Distribution in County Zoning Districts
Uses listed below are prohibited unless specifically identified as allowable through special use review, or unless listed as a permitted or primary use within an individual zoning district chapter.
As per the table below, RSE Requires Special use permit to operate these under RR1/5 zoning:
7. Church
8. Community Center/community club
15. Home based industry............................. (CD's, DVD, book production and sales, retail sales of other products-Quantum Cafe)
23.5 Non-residential use in rural areas (expansion)
29. Public facilities (not schools)..................... RSE invites public attendance at some events
41.5 Temporary uses - In addition to Special use permit, this also requires Administrative Special Use Permit
USE R 1/ 20 R 1/ 10 R R R 1/ 5 R R 1/ 5 U R 1/ 5 R L 1/ 2 R L 1/ 1 R L 2 /1 R 3 — 6 /1 R 4 — 16 /1 L I R R I P I N C R C C A C H C S L1 M G S A2 L T A N A L T F P P M R
1. Academic schools* X X X X X X X X X X X
2. Airfields and landing strips* A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X
3. Animal/bone black, rendering, bone distillations X
3.5 Athletic facilities X X X X X X X X X X
4. Boat launch X X X X X X X X X X X X
5. Camp or recreation ground X X X X
6. Cemeteries X X X X X X X
7. Churches X X X X X X X X X X X
8. Community center/community club X X X X X X X X X X X
9.3 Composting facilities X X X X X X X X X
9.5 Country inns X X X X X X
10. Day-care center X X X X X X X X X X X
11. Drive-in theaters X
11.4 Family day care provider A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
11.5 Farm housing (five or more units) X X X X X
12. Feed lots X X X X X X
12.2 Forest management activities X X X
12.5 Garages X
13. Golf facilities X X X X X X X X X
14. Greenhouses—retail X X X X X X X X X X X
14.5 Greenhouses—wholesale A A X X
15. Home-based industry X X X X X X X X X X X
16. Home occupations A A A A A A A A A A A A A A
17. Hospitals X X X X
17.5 Jails* X X X X X X
18. Junk yards X X X X X X
18.5 Juvenile detention facilities* X X X X X
19. Kennels—11 + dogs X X X X X X X
20. Major energy trans./generators* X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
21. Mineral extraction X X X X X X X X X X X
21.3 Mobile or manufactured home parks (two—four mobile/manufactured homes per lot) A A A A A A A A
21.6 Mobile or manufactured home parks (five or more mobile/manufactured homes) X X X X X X X X
22. Neighborhood convenience commercial X X X X X X X
23. Nonprofit handicapped workshop X X X X X X X X X X
23.5 Nonresidential use in rural area (expansion) X X X X X X
24. Nursing/convalescent home* X X X X X X X X X
25. Off-site treatment and storage facility* X X
25.5 Parks, trails and preserves (public)3 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X3 X
26. Petroleum products/processing storage X
27. Plastics, paints, commercial, chemical—manufacture X
27.5 Prison/prerelease* X X X X X
29. Public facilities (not schools)* X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
30. Public utilities* X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
32. Railroad rights-of-way* X X X X X X X X X X X X X
32.5 Recycling processing centers X X X X X
33. RV/boat storage—com. X X X X X X X
34. Residential care facilities* X X X X X X X X
34.3 Resorts and retreat facilities X
35. Riding stables/arenas/academies X X X X X X
36. Rifle/pistol/archery ranges X X X X X X X
37. Sawmills, lumber/planing mills, molding plants X X
38. Sawmills—large X
39. Sawmills—temporary on-site X X X X X X X X
39.5 Secure Community Transition Facilities* X X X X X X X X X X X
40. Slaughterhouses X
41. Solid waste disposal facilities* X X X X X X X X X
41.5 Temporary uses A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X
42. Travel trailer parks/commercial campgrounds X X X X X
43. Veterinary clinics X X X X X X X X
44.3 Wireless communication facilities (WCFs)—attached or co-located A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X A/ X
44.4 WCFs/antenna support structures-remote freestanding* A/ X A/ X
44.6 (WCFs)/antenna support structures-freestanding* X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
45. Work release* X X X X
X = Special use permit (approval authority is hearing examiner)
A = Administrative special use permit (approval authority is staff)
1 = Summit Lake special management area, as defined in the Critical Areas, Chapter 17.15
2 = Except as prohibited or limited in Chapter 20.23
3 = Applies to uses related to public parks, trails and preserves and not otherwise permitted in Chapter 20.08E
May qualify as an essential public facility; refer to * Section 20.54.065
(Ord. 13884 § 13, 2007: Ord. 13834 § 14, 2007: Ord 13235 § 15, 2004: Ord. 13058 § 47, 2003)
(Ord. No. 14141, 11-10-2008)
20.54.070 - Use—Specific standards.
The following standards apply to specific special uses and are in addition to those established in other sections of this chapter. The zoning districts in which a special use is authorized are identified in Table 1.
1. Academic Schools.
a. Minimum Site Size. The density shall not exceed one hundred students per one acre of ground nor shall there be more than one square foot of floor area to two square feet of ground area.
i. For Public Schools. Minimum site size shall be as required by the Superintendent of Public Instruction.
ii. For Private Schools. In addition to complying with the minimum lot size requirements of the zoning district in which located, the minimum lot area of a private school in excess of four students, shall be determined by the approval authority.
b. Any portion of the site which abuts upon a residential use shall be screened in such a manner as to reduce the noise generated by activities on the school grounds.
c. The height of any auditorium or gymnasium shall be set by the approval authority.

4. Any building shall be of a design that will be compatible with the residences in the area.
c. Outdoor facilities shall be limited as follows:
1. Maximum number of parking stalls: thirty. However, the approval authority shall determine if additional spaces will be needed to guarantee that all user parking will be on the premises and will be adequate for the use.
2. All parking areas shall be set back from adjacent residential properties a minimum of one hundred feet. The one hundred foot setback shall include sight-obscuring plantings.

7. Churches.
a. The height limitations of the pertinent use district need not be observed; however, if the height limitation of such use district is exceeded, then each side yard shall be at least equal in width to the height of the building, spires and towers excluded.
b. Any dwelling located in conjunction with a church shall comply with the provisions governing residential uses of the use district in which it is located.
c. There shall be suitable landscape screening on any church parking lot adjacent to a public right-of-way. A sight-obscuring landscape screen or aesthetically pleasing high solid fence shall be provided between the church parking lot and any abutting residential use.
d. Church-sponsored uses requiring special use approval may be reviewed under the original special use application for the church, or as an amendment to an approved special use.

8. Community Center/Community Club.
a. Minimum lot size shall be two acres.
b. Maximum building size shall be four thousand five hundred square feet on parcels up to five acres.
Maximum building size shall be six thousand square feet on parcels of five acres or larger.
c. Maximum of one community center or community club shall be located per lot.
d. No community center/community club may be located closer than one thousand feet from another community center/community club.
e. All structures and parking areas shall be set back from adjacent residential properties a minimum of one hundred feet. The one hundred foot setback shall include sight-obscuring plantings.
f. The building shall be of a design that will be compatible with the residences in the area.
g. Maximum number of parking stalls: thirty. However, the approval authority shall determine if additional spaces will be needed to guarantee that all user parking will be on the premises and will be adequate for the use.

15. Home-Based Industry. Purpose. To provide for small-scale commercial or industrial activities on residential parcels, subordinate to the primary residential use, if the approval authority finds that such activities can be conducted without substantial adverse impact on the residential environment in the vicinity. The scale of the proposals to be considered through this mechanism is typically greater than could be accommodated through a home occupation permit, but less than would require an outright rezone to industrial or commercial districts.
a. The following list of uses is not intended to be exhaustive, but rather is intended to be illustrative of the types of uses which the approval authority may consider:
i. Antique and gift shops;
ii. Art or photography studios;
iii. Auto repair;
iv. Bed-and-breakfast with more than six guests;
v. Blacksmith shop;
vi. Construction office;
vii. Furniture repair or refinishing;
viii. Pottery shop;
ix. Real estate sales office;
x. Small restaurants for ten or fewer patrons;
xi. Woodworking shop.
b. Standards.
i. The business must be owned and operated only by full-time residents of the parcel on which the proposed use is being requested.
ii. The business may not employ more than two persons on the site at any one time who reside off the subject property.
iii. Only those buildings or areas as specifically approved by the approval authority may be utilized in the conduct of the business.
iv. Any new building constructed to house the home-based industry shall be limited in scale so that it is in character with neighboring properties. In no case shall more than four thousand square feet of total building area on the property be devoted to the home-based industry.
v. Any business requiring customers to visit the site shall provide a minimum of three on-site parking spaces in addition to one each for full-time equivalent employees who reside off the subject property and two for the owners of the subject property.
vi. All activity related to the conduct of the business or industry shall be conducted within an enclosed structure, except that vehicles used in the business may be stored openly as approved on the site plan.
vii. The approval authority may attach additional conditions or requirements or may make modifications to the site plan where necessary to protect the health, safety and welfare of the public.
viii. The scale of the proposed use shall be limited in nature.
ix. The granting of the proposed use shall not, in effect, constitute a rezone.
x. Direct access must be from a paved road meeting county standards.
xi. No off-site signage is permitted.
xii. No business may provide drive-through services.
xiii. No outside storage of equipment or materials shall be permitted unless screened or fenced so as to not be visible from streets and neighboring properties.
xiv. No expansions of the approved home-based industry are permitted.

16. Home Occupations.
a. Home occupations are subordinate to the primary residential use and are permitted in any dwelling unit and include, but are not necessarily limited to, the following:
i. Artists and sculptors;
ii. Authors and composers;
iii. Dressmakers, seamstresses and tailors;
iv. Home crafts, such as model making, rug weaving, lapidary work, woodworking and ceramics;
v. Office facility of a minister, rabbi, priest or other similar person associated with a religious organization;
vi. Office facility of a salesman, sales representative or manufacturer's representative, architect, artist, broker, dentist, physician, engineer, urban planner, landscape architect, public relations practitioner, instructor in arts and crafts, insurance agent, land surveyor, lawyer, musician, real estate agent or typist;
vii. Classes of specialized instruction;
viii. Barbershops and beauty parlors;
ix. Bed-and-breakfast with no more than six guests;
x. Kennels housing four to ten dogs with the following standards:
(A) Dogs which are let outside unleashed shall be kept in a fenced enclosure.
(B) The setback standards in Section 20.07.030 for animals housed inside a structure shall apply.
(C) Visual screening, increased setback, increased lot size, and other conditions may be required taking into account safety, noise and odor factors.
(D) Kennels within the McAllister geologically sensitive area (MGSA) district shall be subject to a waste management plan approved by the Development Services Department which minimizes the risk of groundwater contamination.
b. Permitted home occupations do not include the following:
i. Funeral chapel or funeral home;
ii. Medical or dental clinic or hospital;
iii. Riding or boarding stable;
iv. Veterinary clinic or hospital.
c. Home occupations operating under the following circumstances are permitted as a matter of right (that is, they are exempt from an approval process), provided all of the other standards of this chapter are met:
i. No employees;
ii. No sign;
iii. All work is done inside the dwelling, not in any accessory buildings; and
iv. No materials or equipment used in the home occupation are stored, altered or repaired outdoors.
d. In addition to the standards applicable in the zoning district in which located, all home occupations shall be subject to the following standards:
i. A home occupation must be conducted within a dwelling which is the bona fide residence of at least one of the persons employed in the occupation or in an accessory building thereto which is normally associated with a residential use.
ii. No alteration to the exterior of the buildings as permitted in subsection (16)(d)(i) above shall be made which changes the character and appearance as a residential use.
iii. No outside storage of equipment or materials shall be permitted unless screened or fenced so as to not be visible from streets and neighboring properties. Up to four cords of wood may be stored outdoors in the case of persons engaged in a home occupation of selling firewood.
iv. No more than two persons at any one time other than a member of the immediate family occupying such dwelling shall be employed.
v. No special use may generate noise at the property line in excess of twenty continuous minutes for the maximum total of one hour per day if the noise is so loud as to be annoying.
vi. If the occupation is the type in which classes are held or instruction given, there shall be no more than four students allowed in any one class or instruction period.
vii. Only those buildings or areas as specifically approved by the approval authority may be utilized in the conduct of the business.
viii. Any new construction to house the home occupation shall be limited in scale so that it is in character with neighboring properties. In no case shall more than one thousand square feet of total building area on the property be devoted to the home occupation.
ix. All activity related to the conduct of the business shall be conducted within an enclosed structure except that vehicles used in the business may be stored openly as approved on the site plan.
x. The approval authority may attach additional conditions or requirements or may make modifications to the site plan where necessary to protect the health, safety and welfare of the public.
xi. Direct access must be from a paved road meeting county standards.
xii. No off-site signage is permitted.
xiii. No expansions of approved home occupations are permitted.

23.5 Nonresidential, Nonconforming use in Rural Area.
a. Purpose. To provide limited expansion of isolated commercial or industrial businesses, legally established on or before July 1, 1990, that may not be principally designed to serve the existing or projected rural population and nonresidential uses, but do provide job opportunities for rural residents. Such expansion shall meet all of the standards listed below. Conversion of such uses may be considered pursuant to Section 20.56.060. This special use category applies exclusively to nonconforming uses for which a special use category does not already exist under this chapter.
b. Standards.
i. Expansion is limited to a maximum of fifty percent of the existing building square footage, or use area if no structure is involved, as of July 1, 1990, provided that all of the standards below are met.
ii. The expansion will occur on the same lot upon which the existing use is located.
iii. The expansion is visually compatible with the surrounding rural area.
iv. Detrimental impacts to adjacent properties will not be increased or intensified.
v. The expansion does not result in a formerly small operation dominating the vicinity.
vi. The expansion will not constitute new urban development in the rural area.
vii. Public services and facilities are limited to those necessary to serve the isolated nonresidential use and are provided in a manner that does not permit low-density sprawl.
viii. The design standards of the underlying zoning district and all other applicable regulations are met.


34.3 Resorts and Retreat Facilities.
a. Maximum building coverage shall be six thousand square feet on parcels between five and ten acres. Maximum building coverage shall be twenty thousand square feet on parcels larger than ten acres.
b. No individual building shall be larger than four thousand five hundred square feet.
c. Minimum lot size: five acres.
d. All structures and parking areas shall be set back from adjacent residential properties a minimum of one hundred feet. The one hundred foot setback shall include sight-obscuring plantings.


41.5 Temporary Uses.
a. Permitted Temporary. Uses. The following temporary uses are permitted as a matter of right and are exempt from an approval process provided that the requirements in subsection (d) below are met.
i. Garage or yard sales conducted on the premises of a residential dwelling;
ii. Rummage sales, outdoor sales and other fundraising activities sponsored by schools, places of worship or other nonprofit organizations. Such uses shall not occur on a site for more than thirty days in any one calendar year;
iii. Outdoor art and craft shows and exhibits on public park and/or school property;
iv. Neighborhood association meetings or picnics on property owned by the association or its members;
v. One sales office for the purpose of selling lots or homes within a subdivision may be constructed on the site of a subdivision prior to final plat approval and may operate until all of the lots have been developed and sold;
vi. Properties rented or used for personal social events, such as wedding receptions, private parties, or similar activities, not more than four times during any one calendar year;
vii. Estate sales held on the property of the deceased;
viii. Use of mobile homes or recreational vehicles during construction of a dwelling following issuance of a building permit, not to exceed the period of construction;
ix. Christmas tree sales, limited to not more than forty-five days of site occupation and operation in any one calendar year;
x. Parking lot and other outdoor sales, limited to no more than thirty days of site occupation and operation in any one year period. Merchandise displays may only occupy parking stalls which are in excess of parking requirements;
xi. Temporary stands for the sale of fireworks, subject to rules and regulations administered by the fire district;
xii. Running and biking events associated with community events;
xiii. Similar unclassified uses as determined by the department consistent with Section 20.54.070(41.5)(d).
b. The following temporary uses are permitted with an administrative special use permit for which the approval authority shall be the director, subject to the requirements in Section 20.54.040(41.5)(d) below, in zoning districts as shown on Table 1.
i. Outdoor art and craft shows and exhibits not exceeding three days and not located on public park and/or school property;
ii. Circuses, carnivals and similar transient amusement enterprises, limited to not more than thirty days of site occupation and operation in any one calendar year;
iii. Rummage and other outdoor sales sponsored by schools, places of worship or other nonprofit organizations occurring more than thirty days in any one calendar year;
iv. Community events, not exceeding seven days in duration and not more than four times per year for any single property;
v. Overflow off-site parking, not exceeding seven days in duration and not more than four times in any one calendar year;
vi. Auctions, not exceeding three days and held four or fewer times in any one calendar year on the site of any legally established nonresidential use;
vii. Similar unclassified uses as determined by the department consistent with Section 20.54.070(41.5)(d).

c. The following temporary uses are permitted with a special use permit for which the approval authority shall be the hearing examiner, subject to the requirements in Section 20.54.070(41.5)(d) below, in zoning districts as shown on Table 1.
i. Outdoor art and craft shows and exhibits exceeding three days and not located on public park and/or school property;
ii. Circuses, carnivals and similar transient amusement enterprises, more than thirty days of site occupation and operation in any one calendar year;
iii. Community events, exceeding seven days in duration or occurring more than four times per year for any single property;
iv. Properties rented or used for personal social events, such as wedding receptions private parties or similar activities, more than four times during any one calendar year;
v. Overflow off-site parking, exceeding seven days in duration or more than four times in any one calendar year;
vi. Auctions, exceeding three days or held more than four times in any one calendar year on the site of any legally established nonresidential use;
vii. Similar unclassified uses as determined by the department consistent with Section 20.54.070(41.5)(d).

d. Temporary uses are subject to the following regulations:
i. No temporary use shall be permitted on public rights-of-way, unless a right-of-way obstruction permit is authorized by the roads and transportation services department.
ii. Approval of temporary uses is subject to written permission of the property owner on which the use is to be located.
iii. The applicable approval authority may apply additional conditions to any special use permit for a temporary use in order to:
(A) Ensure compliance with the intent of the Zoning Ordinance;
(B) Ensure that such use is not detrimental to neighboring properties and the community as a whole; and
(C) Ensure compliance with the Uniform Building Code and Uniform Fire Code.
iv. Within three days after termination of the special use permit for any temporary use, such use shall be abated and all structures, signs and evidence of such use removed. The county may require a cash bond be posted by the applicant upon application to defray the costs of cleanup and repair of the property should the permittee fail to do so.
v. Temporary use permits not exercised within one hundred eighty days of issuance shall be null and void.
vi. Violations. In addition to any other remedy provided by this chapter, at any time when such temporary use is operated in violation of required conditions of this section, or otherwise found to constitute a nuisance, the county may revoke the temporary use permit. The permittee shall be given notice of and an opportunity to contest the revocation prior to a final determination. If, in the opinion of the department, the violation poses a life, health or safety threat, the temporary use permit may be revoked immediately, and the permittee shall be given the opportunity to request reconsideration and/or appeal.


42. Travel Trailer Parks and Commercial Campgrounds.
a. Minimum size of campground or park: two acres. Minimum camping site: one thousand square feet;
b. No structure or camp site shall be located closer than ten feet to any lot line. At least ten feet of the buffer area shall be in sight-obscuring planting;
c. Permitted improvements may include facilities for picnicking, boating, fishing, swimming, outdoor games, miniature golf courses, or any mechanical amusement device, and other sports and activities. Associated improvements and facilities shall be shown on the site plan. Such facilities shall be designed to serve only the patrons of the campground;
d. Such uses shall be designed for temporary occupancy, for up to six months, not permanent occupancy, as distinguished from a mobile/manufactured home park.



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Chapter 20.56 - NONCONFORMING USES, STRUCTURES AND LOTS


20.56.010 - Nonconforming uses.
Uses, lots and structures rendered nonconforming by adoption of this title may continue to exist, subject to the provisions of this chapter. Signs rendered nonconforming by the provisions of this title shall be subject to Section 20.40.100. This chapter is not intended to encourage the continuance of nonconforming uses.
20.56.030 - Expansion and intensification of nonconforming, nonresidential uses.
1. Nonconforming, nonresidential uses may be expanded as provided in subsections (2), (3), and (4) below, and all applicable special use standards described in Section 20.54.070. An intensification of use is permitted outright and occurs when the intensified use is contained within the existing structure, or use area if no structure is involved, and is not different in kind from the existing nonconforming use.
2. Expansions of nonconforming, nonresidential uses no greater than five percent may be handled through the administrative special use permit process provided all other requirements of this chapter, including the findings under subsection (3) of this section, are met, pursuant to the application and review procedures prescribed in Chapter 20.60.
3. A nonconforming, nonresidential use may be expanded up to fifteen percent if the hearing examiner issues a special use permit for the expansion of the nonconforming use, pursuant to the application and review procedures prescribed in Chapter 20.60. The percentage shall be cumulative, based on the extent of the use at the time of the initial expansion request following March 19, 2001. The examiner may issue the permit only after finding that:
a. The expansion of the structure conforms to the requirements of this title, provided that the vertical enlargement of a structure which fails to conform to horizontal setback requirements need not conform to that setback requirement;
b. Measures will be taken, if necessary, to protect the neighborhood from detrimental land use effects which might result from the expansion of the nonconforming use;
c. The expansion will occur on the same lot upon which the existing nonconforming use is located;
d. A nonconformance will not be created with other standards that conform to the development regulations elsewhere in this title;
4. Expansions of nonconforming, nonresidential uses involving critical areas shall be subject to the provisions of the Critical Areas Ordinance.
(Ord. 12463 § 22, 2001: Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 11025 §§ 33, 1995: Ord. 8216 § 109, 1985: Ord. 6708 § 3 (part), 1980)
20.56.070 - Maintenance and repairs.
1. A nonconforming structure may be physically repaired and maintained as needed to ensure safety and compatibility with its neighborhood. Maintenance or repair may not increase the area, height, or degree of nonconformity.
2. A mobile or manufactured home with nonconforming placement may be replaced with a new or improved mobile or manufactured home, subject to the requirements of this subsection and other applicable county ordinances.
3. All applicable building, health and septic permits must be obtained prior to commencing work that would require such a permit.
(Ord. 12463 § 24, 2001: Ord. 12290 § 5, 2000: Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 11025 § 36, 1995)
20.56.080 - Conformity of nonconforming uses.
Any nonconforming use or structure that is brought into conformance for any period of time shall permanently forfeit status as a nonconformance.
(Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 11025 § 37, 1995)
20.56.090 - Abatement of illegal use, structure or development.
Any use, structure or site improvement not established in compliance with use and development standards in effect at the time of establishment shall be deemed illegal and shall be discontinued or terminated and subject to removal.
(Ord. 11398 § 3 (part), 1997: Ord. 11025 § 38, 1995)
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Unread post by Tree » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:15 pm

EMF Comment:
Does RSE's water system provide adequate flow to its sprinkler systems and when was this last tested or inspected?
In the event of power failure, is there provision for water to be pumped/delivered to the sprinkler system?
Has the Fire Marshal established the minimum residual pressure?
With the fire and smoke alarm system at RSE has a copy of the current maintenance contract been provided to the Fire Marshal?
Matthew Schubart is also present when all testing is done.
I personally participated in the maintenance of these systems.

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Unread post by Tree » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:20 pm

Does JZ Knight hold a special use permit to provide RV camping with electrical hook-ups on her property?
Has JZ Knight obtained permits from Thurston County Public Health & Social Services to operate or allow the operation of the following?
-A Mobile Food/Drink Unit for the coffee trailer located adjacent to the arena.
-A Food Establishment/Food court?
I can tell you YES to these as well.
The maintenance department keeps on top of these records.

I would have to double check on the special use permits for the traffic.

you may be better to inquire about the parking area as an actual parking area.
Per Thurston county, I do not think the parking area (with yellow ropes) is allowed as such.
One would have to do their due diligence in this regards.

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:46 pm

Hi Tree,

Thank you for your firsthand information... :idea:

To summarize the RSE business license permit situation... this is my understanding.
In 1998, Thurston County issued JZ Knight a Two Year Temporary use Permit -SUP-95-007-, that granted JZ Knight to operate RSE, Inc as a 'Fraternity'
all other permits rest upon this foundation SUP that lapsed in February 2000, the stipulations were never completed, nor the permit renewed.
What has followed 'at least for the past 12 years' is clever RSE/County smokescreens, that sidesteps the fact JZ Knight is operating RSE without a valid permit.
it could be argued that the county issuing JZ Knight an SUP to operate a 'Fraternity" is illegal.
How can a multi-million dollar international corporation be permitted to operate as a frigging fraternity? a fraternity of what? :-? RSE is not a fraternity, never was.
I should point out that the RSE Fire inspection permit documentation we have seen was not signed off by a Fire Marshal! The signatures are illegible.
I will try and find those inspection documents and post them on EMF.
Thurston county commissioner Sandra Romero was directly notified by EMF of the dangerous and illegal situations at RSE and the permit issues.
She and all county officials totally ignored our letters/documentation, and continue to turn a blind eye...
Follow the money... :idea:
If you 'or any of our EMF members' have any information/understanding on the 'tampering' of the RSE Fire and Smoke Alarms during events
Please PM me.

David.

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Unread post by Tree » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:45 pm

I have no personal knowledge of the SUP.
I was not aware all the other permitting rests on the shoulders of that SUP.
This, and the parking situation, which according to what I have read re: parking in Thurston County
would be the crux of the situation.

I would imagine the maintenance and business staff (most likely Robert Hoffman and Teri Stewart) is pretty busy this week :lol:

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Hi Tree,

From our research....The county/RSE uses a private contractor to conduct those Fire safety inspections..
I will do some digging and post the records / documentation we have on EMF.

From what I understand about Robert Hoffman, he was 'let go' by Judith!
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Unread post by Tree » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:01 am

From our research....The county/RSE uses a private contractor to conduct those Fire safety inspections..

are you talking about Knight Fire Protection? who inspects the fire extinguishers? or the fire pump system ?

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:06 am

Yes....
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Unread post by Tree » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:06 am

and no, Knight Fire Protection has no connection with jz or her family.
From our research....The county/RSE uses a private contractor to conduct those Fire safety inspections..
I will do some digging and post the records / documentation we have on EMF.
I am not sure what you are getting at by getting this information of this documentation,
Yes, the ranch worked with Knight Protection.
All was certified.

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:24 am

I am not sure what you are getting at by getting this information of this documentation,
just the facts...and the documentaion to back it up. :idea:
RSE was not inspected by the County Fire Marshal's office..
but a private fire protection company 'certified' no doubt.
for the record....this information is important in the greater picture....

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:33 am

Tree:
I have no personal knowledge of the SUP.
I was not aware all the other permitting rests on the shoulders of that SUP
Here ya go... :idea:
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Re: Thurston County, BUSINESS LICENSES AND REGULATIONS

Unread post by Robair » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:37 pm

Hello Everyone
I have decided to remove a couple of things that did not belong here, but the rest stand as is.
I want everyone here to know even though Tree like to make herself look important for whatever sake she want to justified it, Tree was in Charge of the garden at the Ranch nothing else. On the Video David put out We mentioned that The Fire Alarm System has been disable, that mean that it can be tempered with. I know it can be done because I have seen it done myself. This can be done with one Breaker that can be in another panel labeled something else, so any inspector would not be able really noticed it. So all one has to do when inspection time come is to flip that breaker. If you look at the video that amount of smoke would have set any fire alarm Off. Also Tree did not know much about the secret working at the Ranch she did not know about the Use permit.
For all you new people, Tree Mentioned she was banned from EMF, she was banned under the name Tree but we let her post under the name Walk In The Park as long as she behave, When she mentioned that she met some of the director of EMF but did not connected with them it was my wife and I, we took her out for dinner just before she left for her trip back east she use to live in Vegas, Monique and I was very nice with her our dinner lasted close to 3 hrs she told us that she had a great time and was happy to have connected with us again . You see we knew Tree from Yelm, met her around April 1990, her and her partner did some work for us ,.Tree was very affected by RSE, she probably could be the poster face for what Cult like RSE can do to innocent people’s mind.
Tree never got along with David, we knew it was or is just a matter of time before confrontation arise with her on here, some can be productive and some can be very detrimental.
The statement that she made about the fire Protection at the Ranch, is really made without a lot of knowledge or even common sense seeing all that smoke and saying that the Fire Protection is in working order at the Ranch.
All of us at EMF are very careful for the information we put on here, we check everything very carefully knowing that it will be seen by many different authorities, so we are as precise as we can. But statement like Tree did can be very harmful to our effort to exposed this Charlatan, it take lot of time for us to rectified and explain statement like that.
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Unread post by Tree » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:19 pm

Robair-

I am not here to make myself look important.
I took care of more things than you know of at the Ranch.
I find your post personally insulting and unprofessional.

I, along with the rest of the maintenance department took care of all the Fire documentation.
I was present and participatory in all of the processes while I was employed there.

I think as a moderator this should have been handled way differently than blasting on a public forum.

I do know what I am talking about in regards to the maintenance at the ranch.
I have been honest about what I do NOT know about.

Thank you Robair, for your support. :roll:


and believe me, I am ALL for exposing jz knight as the charlatan that she is.
I definitely can be the poster girl for what happens to people when their minds are messed with from a cult!

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Unread post by David McCarthy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:23 pm

Tree..I will reply to your PM... ASAP..
Thank you.
Back to the Thread topic: Thurston County, BUSINESS LICENSES AND REGULATIONS
Tree;
I was present and participatory in all of the processes while I was employed there.
These were not inspections from the Fire Marshal.
What you are talking about is the maintenance /procedures/ inspections by a private Fire inspection company
based on an invalid public use SUP permit... such as a private school with 2000 students packed in an arena.
We know for a fact... that the system has failed during power outages...Smoke/Fire alarms switched off.. The list goes on and on..
for those that have done the 'due diligence' on these issues :idea: ...
JZ Knight has placed a 'smoke screen' that hides a very dangerous and illegal situation at RSE,
a 'school' where thousands of brainwashed students believe they are divinely protected by 'Ramtha' for any catastrophe happening to them, or RSE... :-?

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Unread post by Tree » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:22 am

Thank you David. ( bowing emoticon)

As I stated in the SUP thread, I understood that was not withstanding.

As for Robair, that dinner left a very bad taste in my mouth when I left. That was my experience.
Your wife was very sweet.
I should have taken the advice of my current partner : not a good idea to go to dinner.

But as we all are recovering in whatever degrees from this coercive persuasive bitch of a cult,
we are at varying degrees of how to move forward and how to heal.
For some, it takes a form of aggressive moves towards the leader.
For others, it is time to step back in a cave, heal, and then move forward helping others.
Some can't even be bothered with any of the above.
And some who are healing help in any little way that they can. (<----that would be my method).
And yet some have been steadfast in progressing with information to assuage the leader
in hopes of the group imploding. (As has been the case with Hitler, Jim Jones, Koresh, FLDS, etc. The koolaid is coming folks!!)

If some of the idosyncrasies of the original group are not addressed, then the group who is forming a NEW group
takes on the tendencies of the original group. And that would mean divisive-ness.
A cult leader divides and conquers.

I would hope, after all the information and stories that are shared here, we can move beyond
"divide and conquer."
Leave that for the lower road traveled.

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Unread post by Robair » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:35 pm

Hello Everyone
As some of you know Monique and I had to go to Montreal to help with Monique's sister sickness and doing so did not keep up with all EMF, did not see this respond from Tree.
We came back home 3 days ago, Like I mentioned on my last post that Tree could be the poster face for what cults can do to people, some of us have been much more affected then others by Cults and Tree is one of them, perhaps some prior disposition that existed in some of us can make it even harder if not next to impossible to recovered fully from a programming cult experience. When I started with EMF I did not know much about, mind control or manipulation, But after 5 years researching and reading, I have a better understanding about this very deep concept of mind control. That been said that will not stop me to confront anyone when the need is there, That is all for now.
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