Posted by M. McMillan
Mar 2, 2007 - 7:11PM David Hudson
Hi Everyone! I'm starting a new thread FYI on David Hudson who was jokingly mentioned in the thread of "reserved seating". When I got the last newsletter from David H. just before his production factory for monoatomic gold blew up or whatever, then heard the entire plant went *** after, I got the feeling that someone was interfering with him & purposely caused this. It was verified for me when I read Laurence Gardner's book "Lost Secrets of the Ark". He mentions David's work in the book, but the real enlightenment came in the appendix on David H. at the end of the book. He states that David was approached by someone in a "suit" to become part of the business. David said no way. This person threatened him that he'd never get the factory off the ground. Only a few core people knew what they were producing. It turns out that he & GM were working on fuel cell technology with the monoatomic gold. Apparently afterward when David's health fell apart too at the same time his factory did, he thought about it and realized that the only other people who knew about this were the Federal Energy Comission with whom he was by law obliged to file his plans & prints. Bingo! This book is an extremely interesting to read. Gardner points out that the Ark of the Covenant was a DC Arc used to manufacture monoatomic gold. Those of us in RSE who bought shares into his company were left holding the bag, but the real culprit was our own government. From what I understand, David H. is very honorable & wanted to repay everyone the funds they contributed. I don't know if that'll ever happen as his health is pretty shot, which I expect was also "arranged". (That's my insight.) Anyway, this is just for your information. M.
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David McCarthy
Mar 3, 2007 - 12:07AM Re: David Hudson
David Hudson first came to Yelm around 1993 by invitation from Ugi Shimono.
Hudson delivered a very convincing talk about his alchemist credentials and his ”holy bloodline” that guided him to rediscover the Egyptian elixir of life… “monoatomic gold”
It created such a buzz in Yelm that Hudson was invited by JZ Knight to lecture at RSE. With the “Ramtha” stamp of approval…Hudson convinced hundreds of eager RSE students to invested in his company for a share of his production of “monatomic gold”..
with the strict stipulation that very sick would be first in line to receive their “white powder gold” first..
How very noble and kind of him.. We all thought..
This wonderful man just needs some financial help build his laboratory and to heal his sick and dying wife… and to help humanity?
Not one person to date “that I know” have received their “white powder gold”
There was always a good “story” ….delivery was just on the horizon…
Do not question.. Hudson is battling the grey men…Etc Etc
Today.. I did a quick search on the Internet… Hudson is still hawking his White Powder Gold, with such names as… Transformational alchemy: monatomic gold.. White powder rhodium . monatomic gold and monoatomic rhodium Etc Etc……..
My friend Ugi never received his elixir of life from Hudson..
He dropped dead at an RSE event just a few years ago.
Meanwhile its business as usual for David Hudson.
I call it deception and fraud.
David.
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Cowboy
Mar 3, 2007 - 12:45PM Re: David Hudson
I remember when David Hudson spoke at RSE and sold memberships in his company, Science of the Spirit Foundation. In fact I still have the paperwork and many of the newsletters mailed out from 1996 to 1999. The memberships sold for $500.00 each and the May/June 1996 newsletter states, "We have all 5000 memberships committed at this time." That would be $2,500,000. The May/June 1997 newsletter included 2 pages of photos of the plant and equipment. The December, 1997 newsletter is headlined, "By the time you receive this newsletter the plant will be running." "Due to the high cost of shipping we will have to wait about four weeks to tally and divide material among the memberships. The finished product should be arriving the 2nd or 3rd week of February, 1997.
It was the last newsletter I received and I'm still waiting for the product. If you search "David Hudson" online you can find him "selling" white powder gold. If he is selling it online, why wasn't it distributed to the members who put up the $2,500,000?
Don't go for it. Instead check out his now defunct Science of the Spirit Foundation, Box 25709, Tempe, Arizona, 85285.
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whatchamacallit
Mar 3, 2007 - 9:22PM Re: David Hudson
Cowboy,
WOW ! Hudson is currently selling the powder ? Gee, why hasn't JZ let her students know that ? Or Ramtha...why hasn't he let the students know ?
Hudson talked to the audience, years ago, and got many of them hooked into this White Powder of Gold scam. It was viewed by many as the elixir of possible immortality.
What was that other guy...the SEA-11 scam ! Do you remember that ? I still have the recipe in my notebook for exactly how to make the "recipe". I even made the recipe by following the detailed descriptions. What a fool, LOL.
It tasted HORRIBLE. Bad recipe, I say.
Cowboy, I don't know if I still have my Hudson newsletters or not. But what you share is sure right on !
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Cowboy
Mar 4, 2007 - 9:47AM Re: David Hudson
Greetings Whatchamacallit,
Are you referring to the ingestion of the concentrated saltwater? The water that some people flew to the Dead Sea to obtain? The one that "Ramtha" said, "When you drink this you are drinking everything that exists in the ocean, you are strengthening your bodies in ways that are unimaginable."
If that is what you are remembering I wonder why it came and went if it was really as great as "Ramtha" said.
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DanceTheWind/AnnMarie Parson
Mar 4, 2007 - 10:43AM Re: David Hudson
YIKES! reading your posts here I just wipe my brow in relief that I got in and out in such short order... I only spent about... lets see...$7,000. on my RSE education in say 12-15 mos. That doesn't count my x-husband who I talked into going and my partner who attended while here with me...
oh well... less than tuition at the local community college I guess
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LostInTheDeltaQuadrant
Mar 4, 2007 - 10:50AM Re: David Hudson
But Dance, you would have received some EDUCATION at the local community college
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whatchamacallit
Mar 4, 2007 - 10:37PM Re: David Hudson
Cowboy,
Yes, that's part of it. We were told we had to go to a place in the ocean where we could suck "clean" water from down at least 100 feet deep. My poor husband tolerated this nonsense, and found a fishing boat to go out on. The man got my water for me just fine, and got seasick, too. All for love =-)
Generally speaking, it involved this seawater, sodium hydroxide (which is VERY toxic; even lethal in the wrong use of it), fresh water, and some mixing/pouring/washing steps. In the end, it left one with a whitish substance that as described as similar in appearance to sperm.
I do not know one student who was able to tolerate the taste of the "Sea-11" water, without nearly gagging. I do remember one day, being at an event, sitting outdoors, and Ramtha was mad. He yelled at the students, in reference to the Sea-11 slime, that he had given us the recipe for life, and we just threw it away.
It was a short lived FAD (one of MANY), that blew through RSE. But as it typical for the fad-of-the-month, so to speak, a number of folks were fanatical about it. Some caused some disturbances in the area because of their misuse of it. I don't recall details,and probably have them in my notes, but I am SURE that I heard this addressed, from the stage. There was a scolding because of it. (from Ramtha)
Dance...consider yourself very lucky that your tenure there was short lived.
Cowboy, did you ever ingest the Sea-11 and/or make it?
Just curious.
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ex
Mar 5, 2007 - 6:33AM Re: David Hudson
thats the time i came.the people were very exited about it. you had to extract the white stuff with draino.because this is used in drugfabrication shops are suposed to tell it to the police.that was the shouting about.now from a trusted friend a rumor if you want. this stuff was still poisen and triggered probably many cancers.in my opinion ramtha jz is a murderer and should be held responsible for her sh....it came and went like a fashion and everything in rse.so much for timeless teachings.i still read here most of it is said from people who write better.good luck to you all.
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Cowboy
Mar 5, 2007 - 7:21PM Re: David Hudson
I drank the concentrated seawater for a long time all the while convincing myself that it was the elixir of immortality (I believe that is what "Ramtha" called it.) In fact, I only recently found some in a small bottle in the back of the refrigerator. Should I sell it on eBay?
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whatchamacallit
Mar 5, 2007 - 8:36PM Re: David Hudson
LOL ! You've had that in the fridge all these years ? EWWWWWW !!!
I wonder what a chemical analysis at a lab would show it has it in, that validates it as the Elixir of Immortality. I guess if the taste doesn't kill you, you will be immortal.
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ex
Mar 5, 2007 - 10:41PM Re: David Hudson
it was in a lab.it was poisen.
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David McCarthy
Mar 5, 2007 - 10:59PM Re: David Hudson
Hello Ex,
Can you elaborate on the lab test?
whatchamacallit .. was the seawater con’coction called Sea-11?
Can you e-mail me the recipe?
It would be very interesting to have the sea-11 lab analyzed and the results presented on EMF.
David
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whatchamacallit@yahoo.com
Mar 6, 2007 - 4:43PM Re: David Hudson
David,
Email you the Sea-11 recipe ? Oh, my. This could be profitable, I sense. What's it worth to you ?
Laughing out loud !!!
P.S. Maybe we can start a partnership and over ride the nasty taste with flavored Sea-11 water, and market it ? (just kidding!)
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David McCarthy
Mar 6, 2007 - 11:00PM Re: David Hudson
whatchamacallit
Q.
What's it worth to you ?”
How about a Tesla watch?
David.
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Raoul
Mar 7, 2007 - 11:43AM Re: David Hudson
I would say the David Hudson saga, followed by Larry's presentation on how to extract monatomic elements from seawater, using an incomplete process, is a prime example how the school managed to destroy something meaningful for most or all who came in contact with it via the school.
My own research has yielded the following: All scientific papers that David Hudson quoted in his presentation are for real. I went to the Evergreen State College and found and photocopied them in the microfilm/microfiche section.
David Hudson, as you know, never shipped any product to those fools like me who bought a membership, and, in contrast to what a poster above stated, does not sell anything monoatomic now. There are several companies on the web who market monoatomic gold, I am the owner of one of them. I will not comment on any friendly competitors' products. Nor do I have the audacity to post my website here, I understand that this forum is not an advertising field but all about gathering information or rather: gathering our wits that we may have lost somewhere in the not too distant past.
Once I realized that David Hudson was talking about something real, I went on my own quest and found Larry, the assayer, who showed me how to convert metallic gold to monoatomic and he also showed me the seawater process that was later presented at the school.
The problem with the seawater process as Larry presented it is that it utilizes sodium hydroxide out of a Red Devil Lye bottle, this is not a food grade chemical, but a toilet grade chemical, plus Larry's concentration of a 10 percent lye is too strong, creating localized pH-Levels ways over Larry's target pH. (My choice would be an 8 percent potassium hydroxide solution of food grade potassium hydroxide from a chemicals store, fyi.)
So you get a dirty product with very little monatomic elements in it. Larry's way of handling the problem was to tell people to take only a few drops per day. But then Ramtha(TM) came out and told people to swig it.
And here is where the problems really started: Larry has never done a complete water change, so the process unfortunately also concentrates the heavy water or deuterium oxide that occurs naturally in seawater. In contrast to what you may have heard at the Ranch, deuterium is a slow poison that accumulates in the body and creates stomach aches, hair loss and other symptoms that Ramsters at the time exhibited. Plus they got poisoned by the heavy metals they precipitated out of seawater, too.
Back then, I took the time to write a letter to J.Z. about my observations plus how to clean up the Sea-11, inviting her to make this available to everyone.
Possibly as a direct result, Ramtha(TM) came out and told people something like they should stop making the stuff because they were not doing it right.
The blame was put on the students!
Now, apart from the RSE-related story, one thing remains to be asked about the monoatomic elements themselves: What then is it?
According to David Hudson, they are the Philosopher's Stone. Laurence Gardner ran with the idea and wrote an entire book about the material along these lines.
BS! This is one of the bigger BSes I have heard in my life. Monoatomic Gold was known to medieval Western alchemists as the "True Calx of Gold" that cannot be "revivified" - meaning it cannot be returned to metallic gold by standard metallurgical means. (One medieval reference that includes a viable manufacturing process of monoatomic gold plus the above-mentioned definition is: Jugel, Johann G.: Johann Gottfried Jugels freyentdeckte Experimentalchymie, Leipzig, Germany 1766, Publisher J.P. Krause, page 172ff ). In Ayurveda, monoatomic gold is the bhasma of gold that passes the test of apunarbhavatva or "test of non-revivability". Same test, even same terminology!
Both the pharmacopoeias of medieval alchemy as well as ayurveda list the uses of this particular calx of gold, it is a medicine for the heart, red blood cells, bones and bone marrow, and aspermia. It is also said to be good for longevity. So we are basically looking at something quite useful, but:
This material is not even close to being the Philosopher's stone, the highest achievement of alchemy, it is at the very bottom of mineral alchemy!
And you were once being told........
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Cowboy
Mar 7, 2007 - 6:11PM Re: David Hudson
Thanks for sharing your information, Raoul. Dare I ask, is there an antidote for the RSE recipe?
whatchamacallit
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Mar 7, 2007 - 10:28PM Re: David Hudson
Raoul,
Yes, I remember students being told to swig it, also. I think this Sea-11 water, and the misinformation passed along by a "God", is one of the biggest examples of fraud (no Ramtha at home), that I've seen in the school.
I wonder if it would be effective to cleanse the body of any heavy metal toxicity by using some of the products available for that? I know plain old Vitamin C cannot be under rated.
Thanks for posting your info.
David,
I don't wear a watch, but because you're a great guy with a big heart, I wouldn't want to give you poison! We want you around in good health !
Don't Sea-11 !!
Whatcha
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Raoul
Mar 8, 2007 - 6:54AM Re: David Hudson
Hi Cowboy and Whatcha,
an antidote or cleanse for the Sea-11: depending on where the seawater was from and how the preparation was made, you are probably looking at lead- and mercury oxides or hydroxides as the main problem contaminants, with some cadmium added for good measure.
They can be cleansed out of the body by various means, one of them is taking broken cell-wall chlorella for six months; this is very effective, as hair analyses have shown over and over.
Another option is to do the herbal cleanse developed by the late Dr. Christopher which is now better known as the Schultze-cleanse; this preparation contains in the dark powder formula activated charcoal and bentonite clay, both known to pull out heavy metal toxicity.
For mercury toxicity, daikon radish and cilantro are working well, besides chlorella.
For getting rid of deuterium, the classic way is water fasting. Another option would be taking the trace elements germanium and cerium in edible forms, these two together help the body rid itself of deuterium, too.
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WannaKnow
Mar 8, 2007 - 10:02AM Re: David Hudson
Something to note in Raoul's narrative above is that he wrote to JZ telling her that the method the RSE students were using was incorrect and dangerous. Sometime after that "Ramtha" told the students to stop making it.
Why did it take a letter to JZ in order for "Ramtha" to make an announcement? If "Ramtha" is who "he" says he is, an all knowing omnipotent being, why did RSE students improperly make this product at an event? And ingest it?
And how about if you weren't present when "Ramtha" told students to stop making it? What effort was made to ensure that those who made it at RSE later learned that the process was flawed? No effort was made because I never found out about it and I was at the event where we made it.
In my opinion this scenario suggests that attending Ramtha's School of Enlightenment can be hazardous to your health. I wonder what my toxicity levels are?
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David McCarthy
Mar 8, 2007 - 1:07PM Re: David Hudson
Some great posts... Much appreciated..
Raoul,
Welcome..
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
The record speaks for itself that David Hudson is a charlatan,
His ability to memorize information in the field of science and alchemy continues
to bamboozle and defraud the public,
He has much in common with JZ Knight…
The term vampire is an appropriate one…..
I remember the great theme of “Ramtha” in the early 90s was alchemy.
I prided myself on being a member of OmAkad.. the so-called alchemists…and healers of RSE?
That the purpose of RSE “The Great Work” was the transmutation of a student’s base mind “Lead”, into the so-called Christ consciousness..“Gold”.
A clever ruse… well calculated to remove the gold from our pockets and feed off our life force…
Meanwhile any spiritual wisdom and true knowledge pirated by JZ Knight became infected and used to control her ‘Ramtha” flock…
What Raoul said is true.
quote:
“using an incomplete process, is a prime example how the school managed to destroy something meaningful for most or all who came in contact with it via the school.”
Fortunately for me I had just quit RSE when the Sea-11 “teachings” blew through town, there was such a buzz in Yelm, I had friends driving down to the Great Salt Lakes to fetch salt water, RSE staff members were even flying to the Dead Sea to collect sea water….
But…
None would share the Sea-11 recipe with me… I was no longer a current RSE student? Finally about six months later a friend handed me a blue bottle… filled with a milky white liquid… exclaiming it was the Soma of life..
It tasted so bad I could only conclude it was made incorrectly.. so I set about finding the secret recipe for myself, the supermarket shelves were stripped of the drain cleaner “Red Devil Lye” that I was told was necessary in the alchemical process…. by this time the whole idea was so insane that I poured the blue bottled "Soma" down the drain…
My drains worked perfectly from then on…
Dark chuckle..
Twinkie Bar anyone?
David.
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Cowboy
Mar 8, 2007 - 1:41PM Re: David Hudson
Thanks for suggesting antidotes, Raoul. I just want to make sure I understand this - as the result of drinking that concoction over a long period of time, is it possible that a blood test would reveal elevated levels of the toxins mentioned? Thanks for your insight. Appreciate it.
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Raoul
Mar 9, 2007 - 6:38AM Re: David Hudson
Hi David and hello Cowboy,
thanks David for the warm welcome. I've been out of school when the seawater process was shown, too, but had met with Larry and knew what it was about. The madness in town surrounding the entire affair was actually quite amusing for me to observe.
My opinion back then was that it was quite irresponsible in the first place to "teach" an elaborate process to the students of the school that belongs into a properly equipped lab and that needs to be performed by people with a basic knowledge of reagents, instruments, just a basic working knowledge of the materials involved and good laboratory practice. All of this can be learned, of course, but not necessarily in a one-night crash course.
On the other hand, I have to say I found it very gutsy of people to dare such a foray into uncharted territories.
Cowboy, to get back to your question - it may well be that you have eliminated most of the toxins from your system by now. Heavy metals do tend to get secreted out over time, but in some individuals, levels remain high. We had and have a few great healers in town who I had the honor to work with. One of them did extensive work with detoxification before he came to Yelm, and his take on the subject was that almost everybody in the civilized world shows some elevated levels of one or some heavy metal(s) in a hair analysis, so why even bother doing any costly hair analysis, just put the person on a six month course of taking chlorella and it will clean up. This is a very healthy food supplement of an algae anyway, so you get numerous benefits out of it and it costs less than going through hair analysis plus the expensive chelation therapy that is not without side-effects.
Another simple approach is taking a good multi-vitamin and mineral supplement. They contain amino acid chelates of such trace elements like copper, manganese, chromium, selenium and zinc, and all these will help your body get rid of other heavy metals over time.
One stunning fact baffled marine biologists for a long time: wild salmon often have levels of mercury in their tissue that are considered dangerous or even lethal, yet the fish swim about happily. Later, the reason was discovered: these salmon also have elevated levels of selenium in their tissue, which is the natural antagonist of mercury.
That's why I suggest taking trace elements. As long as you have a wide range of them available in your body, even some elevated levels of heavy metals are balanced and will apparently do no harm.
Raoul
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Mar 9, 2007 - 7:21AM Re: David Hudson
WannaKnow,
I want to comment on the "letter to JZ issue" now that I remember more details. The story is actually more tragic. After I had written the letter, nothing happened.
But a few weeks later I had lunch with Miceal at the "Hefty Divot". I brought the issue up, stating that people were poisoning themselves and if he could adress the issue with JZ.
Miceal pointed out that there was a legal issue involved. I affirmed that there was indeed a legal issue involved, since people were taught the process at the Ranch and the longer nothing happens, the more people get sick and the bigger the legal issue gets.
Only after that conversation with Miceal, Ramtha(TM) told people to stop making it.
Once I had heard that "Ramtha" put the blame on the students, it was clear to me that I would never return to RSE.
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David McCarthy
Mar 10, 2007 - 10:25AM Re: David Hudson
Raoul,
What are the likely “affects” of a healthy person drinking copious amounts of the RSE Sea-11 water,
Let’s say… a full glass each day for six months?.
To take my question one step further…
What would the outcome be of someone who was seriously ill..
“lets say with cancer”..
Who drank copious amounts of the RSE Sea-11?..
David.
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Raoul
Mar 11, 2007 - 10:34AM Re: David Hudson
Hi David,
then only honest answer would be "I don't know". There were many people in Yelm who made a fine product, and there was probably some benefit to be gotten from it.
There were others who poured the strong lye solution too fast into the sea water and who therefore precipitated some heavy metals out.
I have seen vast differences between people's Sea-11, so it is difficult to come up with a generalization.
In the worst case, a heavy metal poisoning plus a deuterium poisoning is what happened. I have seen several such cases, and a detox was indicated.
An individuals' constitution is an important factor how such heavy metal toxicity may impact this persons health. Some people are apparently capable of tolerating quite high amounts of heavy metals, others get dramatic symptoms from much less, so it is really difficult to generalize.
The body chemistry that a Carey Reams- style test of the red wine drinkers showed was usually more reason for concern than the tests showed before the wine drinking started at full tilt. In my opinion, the Sea-11 was the lesser problem than the permanent drinking of large amounts of wine.
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Cowboy
Mar 11, 2007 - 11:02AM Re: David Hudson
Hi Raoul,
Never heard of the Carrie Reams - style test of the red wine drinkers. Would you be kind enough to elaborate? Thanks-
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David McCarthy
Mar 11, 2007 - 8:00PM Re: David Hudson
Thank you Raoul..
I remember a friend of mine complaining she was loosing much of her hair..
she kept a 5 gallon bucket of the sea-11 water to dip into each day.
I also wonder about Vicky Cady and others who were suffering from cancer…if they were drinking large amounts of the sea-11 water in a desperate attempt to heal themselves?
Vicky died of cancer .
The RSE elixir of choice nowadays is “Tequila and Green Tea”…
drank in the mornings?
Does anybody know the route and reasoning behind of this recipe?
David.
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Marching on within
Mar 11, 2007 - 8:55PM Re: David Hudson
David,
Check google - perhaps there is an article about how good it is for you - it seems green tea boosts one's metabolism and help one loose weight??. I guess the tequila gives it a better taste - must be JZ's drink of the moment.
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whatchamacallit
Mar 11, 2007 - 9:21PM Re: David Hudson
of possible interest.......
“G Pure Energy was conceived to offer the best of everything from ingredients to packaging. G Pure Energy combines natural ingredients in a clear formula with a smooth taste that is kind to the pallet and body. Created with all-natural ingredients including vitamins, taurine, caffeine and metabolism boosting green tea extract. This unique formula gives you sustainable energy, the medicinal benefits of all natural green tea and no jitteriness.
G Pure Energy mixes brilliantly with a variety of spirits such as vodka, rum, tequila and gin allowing you to create unique, invigorating and enjoyable cocktails to keep the night going strong. Entice your senses. G Pure Energy: Sophisticated. Clear. Refreshing. Healthy. Energizing.”
http://www.flying-people.com/2006/11/22 ... rgs-water/
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whatchamacallit
Mar 11, 2007 - 9:34PM Re: David Hudson
Info including tequila and green tea....don't know if this is related to what RSE and/or students are promoting. If so, it's old news....
"How to Cure A Cold
I know many of you are sick as a dog. I am sick as a dog. I finally remembered that Clara recommended a Portugese-style Hot Toddy to me the other year when I was very sick in her class:
"Make a cup of tea, very hot. Add honey, and whisky, or bourbon, yes? And one raw egg. Have it every eight hours. With two of these, your cold will be gone. I promise."
I did some research, so here's what I can recommend to you guys.
Symptoms
You have horrible stuffy head, zomg cant breth, throbbing sinuses, flu, aching body, scratchy (itchy, bleeding, horribly painful, swollen or thick) throat, sore neck, swollen lymph nodes, stuffy nose, runny nose, sleeplessness, exhaustion.
Basic Hot Toddy
1 1/2 ounces Whiskey
1 ounce Honey (1 oz.=2 Tablespoons)
1/3 ounce Lemon Juice
3 ounces Water (Hot)
If you have a microwave, the easiest way to make this drink is to warm the honey and lemon juice for about half a minute and then to add hot water and the whiskey. Otherwise, we recommend that you stir the honey and lemon juice into extremely warm water, allow it to cool slightly, and add the whiskey.
Alternatives
1. Make the Toddy with tea instead of water. GREEN TEA will add antioxidants and vitamin C, and brown teas will add caffeine. Try darjeeling or orange pekoe.
2. Lime juice will work as well as lemon.
3. Almost any liqueur will work (spiced Rum, TEQUILA, wild turkey, southern comfort, whisky, brandy) but it should be about 100 proof. Vodka is possible but not as desirable as good whisky.
4. You can use apple cider instead of water or tea for added flavor.
5. Use hot fresh coffee instead of tea or water.
Possible Additives
1. Cinnamon (stick or powder) will heat the blood and help you sweat out the cold.
2. Cayenne pepper will do the same.
3. A dissolved peppermint candy or peppermint tea will cool and soothe the throat.
4. A shot of cranberry juice will add more vitamin C.
5. Simmer the water and honey for a few minutes with whole cloves. Add whisky after the mixture cools for a couple of minutes. The alcohol will then make a tincture that pulls all the benefits out of the cloves and honey.
6. If boiling in a saucepan, cut up a lemon and remove the seeds but leave the rind on. Put the lemon into the cup when drinking.
7. Stick whole cloves into a lemon rind, squeeze into cup and leave in.
8. Add a chunk of crystallized ginger or boil a fresh chunk with the water and lemon. Ginger contains both antiseptic and antiinflammatory properties that will soothe and clear the throat and sinuses.
All the ingredients are necessary:
Honey has antiseptic qualities that sugar (especially refined white sugar) does not possess. it is a natural preservative and kills bacteria. Not only does it soothe your throat, it is like a little shot of antibiotics.
Alcohol helps to extract the vitamins from the lemon and honey, helps dilate blood vessels (relieves headaches and raises body temperature), and helps you sweat out the cold.
The hot water or tea is soothing to the body tissues and helps you sweat as well as rehydrating and flushing out toxins. Tea also adds vitamins and antioxidants.
The lemon cuts mucus in the throat and gives much needed vitamin C.
Even if you're not sick, this drink will warm you up on a cold night and just plain tastes good. If you aren't feeling results with over-the-counter medicines or that disgusting ****in TheraFlu (BLUUUGHH), try the traditional remedies. They're miraculous, I promise."
http://koshii.livejournal.com/246708.html
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Raoul
Mar 13, 2007 - 4:58PM Re: David Hudson
Hello Cowboy,
the Carey Reams test - this is named after American Biologist Carey A. Reams;
There is one book out on Carey Reams, it is titled "Choose Life or Death" and it is stated to be written by Carey Reams with Cliff Dudley, was published by Nutritional Counselors of America, Tampa, Florida, several editions starting in 1978.
C. Reams originated a test of biological parameters such as urine and saliva pH, sugar-, salt-, urea- and protein-levels in urine excreted, and then came up with a sophisticated method of determining a person's biological inner terrain and deducting nutritional suggestions.
My personal understanding is that Carey Reams was a true pioneer.
Today, acid/base balancing is a mainstay of European alternative health docs and regular medical docs here are slowly and nilly-willy catching up. I am back to Europa for a little more than a year now and am watching with some amazement how these two different cultures (America and Europa) are running on different parameters on many levels. Would you expect your allopathic doc in Yelm ask you to pee on a pH strip during your consultation to determine anything about your health? Nope. But them Euro-wizards are
An even more complex system and certainly more detailed than Carey Reams' testing is Dr. Emanuel Revici's work. Revici is now a theme among US alternative docs.
If you are interested, your favorite search engine should yield enough information on the two, using their names as search strings.
Do you remember Ken Meadows? He was practicing in the Yelm area, and he was using the Carey Reams test to determine a person's body chemistry and then come up with nutritional suggestions.
Apparently, once the red wine drinking started, some peoples' urine and saliva pH were so out of range that even Ken, who had seen a lot during his long career, was shocked. His comment in private was that they were "peeing pure acid". It was clear that they would not live much longer if they would not stop drinking these amounts of vino. But they were told at RSE that the red wine was the elixir of life. And what is the word of a nutritionist in comparison to the Hierophant? Nuthin'. And so they died. End of story.
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onehandontheelephant
Mar 13, 2007 - 11:09PM Re: David Hudson
Since this thread concerns some different things that RSE students have ingested over the years...
Does anyone remember the health food store that was in operation before Thunder Market, or the name of the woman who ran it? I think it was called Yelm Health. I just remembered the owner telling me about her dilemma in attempting to keep the latest nutritional products on the shelves that had been recommended by R/JZ. R/JZ would tell everyone they should take supplement X (anyone remember SOD? or the name of the product involving red laser light? can anyone name all the types of waters that came through here?), and by the time Yelm Health could get in a shipment of product X, R/JZ would have recommended that everyone take product Y. Yelm Health would be left with boxes of product X that nobody wanted. I believe this is what led to the store going out of business. It's a shame, because it was a great place to get information, and the owner really wanted to meet the needs of the Yelm community.
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Cowboy
Mar 14, 2007 - 2:20PM Re: David Hudson
In the 90's "Ramtha" said that everyone should take Lipo and L'Ornithine "for the rest of your days." They were part of the Gematria line-up. And at one event the Gematria Power Drink was featured onstage. One of the Red Guard showed everyone attending how to mix it and shake the mix to activate it.
JZ has made plenty of profit selling selling Gematria products. She invited Dr. Todd, the founder, to speak at RSE.
One of the waters she made money selling was manufactured by Cellcore. That was also in the 90s.
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whatchamacallit
Mar 14, 2007 - 9:02PM Re: David Hudson
YES !!!
"Today, acid/base balancing is a mainstay of European alternative health docs and regular medical docs here are slowly and nilly-willy catching up."
A vegetarian diet also supports an alkaline body chemistry, too. Don't tell Ramtha, though; he's against it.
By the way, I'm not vegetarian, so I'm not pushing anything by making that comment. It's just true. Many fruits and veggies are naturally alkaline foods.
There is a lot of good info on the web about eating healthy for a balanced pH. Xylitol is a natural, alkaline sugar, too. It's from the birch tree. I've been using it for years. Diabetics can also use it. (No, I'm not diabetic, but I just know that it's an alternative for them to use, as a sweetener)
Xylitol.org has recipes, too.
...and it's a white powder...just not claiming to be GOLD.
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Cowboy
Mar 15, 2007 - 6:15PM Re: David Hudson
Why does xylitol make dogs sick?
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whatchamacallit
Mar 16, 2007 - 8:55PM Re: David Hudson
Why does chocolate make dogs sick ? Humans are not dogs. I don't think it's a good measure to compare the two. I say that respectfully, not sarcastically.
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onehandontheelephant
Mar 16, 2007 - 11:15PM Re: David Hudson
Again, since this thread concerns some different things that RSE students have ingested over the years...
Around 1999 a current RSE student who was sick told me that she was drinking her own urine to help heal herself. She had no health insurance. She "manifested" being jailed for quite a long time, during which presumably she received some conventional medical treatment.
Does anyone posting here know if R/JZ advised RSE students to drink their own urine?
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David McCarthy
Mar 16, 2007 - 11:47PM Re: David Hudson
Cowboy
Q,
Why does xylitol make dogs sick?
This question came up a few years ago after
my friends dog started walking backwards after eating chocolate..
I won’t blame it on “Ramtha” this time..
Chuckle..
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Whatchamachocolate
Quote, “I say that respectfully, not sarcastically”.
We both know that your true motive is to keep your chocolate to yourself..
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OneHand,
Yes, I knew a few people doing the pee thing..
Apparently..
Peeing on a nasty cut is supposed to reduce the risk of infections,
Perhaps there is some validity to the healing properties of pee?
Hence the drinking of golden showers…
Pee toast anyone?
Chuckle
David
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whatchamacallit
Mar 17, 2007 - 4:43AM Re: David Hudson
"Whatchamachocolate
Quote, “I say that respectfully, not sarcastically”.
We both know that your true motive is to keep your chocolate to yourself..
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David,
I really enjoy your level of creativity with words.
But, did you have to "out" me on this forum ? (teasing)
Whatchamachocolate
P.S. Putting my bad cop hat on now; we are WAY off topic on this thread. Everybody go to time out. What happened to David Hudson ? Perhaps this morning, I'll go dig through my notes. A daunting task.
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Cowboy
Mar 17, 2007 - 6:38PM Re: David Hudson
Never heard of RSE/Ramtha/JZ recommending ingesting urine.
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marchingonwithin
Mar 23, 2007 - 12:22AM Re: David Hudson
Raoul, if you are reading this site again, could you please email me as i have some questions about WP of Gold - thanks
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seesallsides
Apr 20, 2007 - 9:07AM Re: David Hudson
This may be off Topic, but I have a lengthy story regarding This subject and the person Barry Carter, who once told me he got the Sea 11 recipe from Jz [via the internet].
I met David Hudson at a private lecture in another state in the late 90s, and after that got to know Mr. Carter, who, if anyone reading this knows, Claims to have "worked with" D.H. in developing his own "Formulas".
... and had some experiences with him that all this time have made me want to "warn" people about working with him, and using his products.
Please beware of self proclaimed experimenters, who collect personal information about your experiences with these Formulas they are offering for free or a small fee!!!
I got so Dupped by Mr Carter. IM even afraid to go public about it...and I see that the online forums relating to what he does are all monitored and connected to his control, so I could not go online annonymously and tell my story.
I just recommend getting your magic powder by someone else..
If anyone needs more details, send me your PM and Ill elaborate
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Tree
Apr 20, 2007 - 10:09AM Re: David Hudson
my first time seeing this post.....
I know of one lady in particular, who's health has been in a steady decline ever since she ingested the Sea 11. She has a serious case of heavy metal toxicity.
Her children have had to witness her decline.
I,myself, did make some.
But the levels were difficult to maintain to exactness without an obvious lab.
I never went to the assay where they were cooking it the whole time (thank god).
And I threw all mine out.
I did pass on the recipe to David.
as far as David Hudson is concerned, I was at the event he spoke at. I remember thinking, "wow. bummer. I don't have the 500 bucks. I will REALLY be behind the 8 ball here." Thank God for small interventions
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AGAPE
Apr 20, 2007 - 11:39AM Re: David Hudson
omg - somehow I never viewed this thread when it was new. I cannot possibly communicate how horrified I am by these stories told.
The deceptions, fraud, control, abuse, fleecing and hocus-pocus created mental/emotional conditions that people have a CHANCE to recover from. But this thread describes chilling endangerment of ingesting lye and heavy metal toxicities that SANE people would not even consider. And, with heavy red meat (linked to breast cancer) and wine (compounding the acidity of the body) ingestion.. no wonder there is such strong denial in the school - the only coping mechanism possible under such circumstances.
I can't believe the wretched past of this organization. I am humbled by those who are committed to making these things known to unsuspecting seekers. This organization has broken God's law again and again. Some of this HAS to be against federal and state statues. Other cults have been kicked out of this state and country. why not this one?
It is absolutely beyond my wildest imagination. Bless you all who have stepped forward.
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Cynical
Apr 30, 2007 - 6:13PM Re: David Hudson
This is an essential thread - particularly/specifically towards the 'middle' when it talks about the seawater fiasco -- How can an ascended enlightened greater than Buddha greater than Jesus inspirer of all the great spiritual truths and schools throughout time not know a simple formula - and not know that a horse arena is not a laboratory.
How classic of mind control techniques is the behavior of blaming the students for messing up.?
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JEM
Jun 24, 2007 - 6:00PM Re: David Hudson
For detoxification of heavy metals, plastics and other pollutants, the Takara foot pads are an option.
http://www.takarapatch.com/
Not an MLM
Many people have proven the benefits to themselves by having the used pads tested by a lab. Instructions here:
http://www.healthmarvels.net/pdf/DetoxPadTesting.pdf
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David McCarthy
Jun 24, 2007 - 6:34PM Re: David Hudson
JEM..
I experimented with theses pads when they blew through Yelm several years ago..
To simulate the sole of my foot I dampening one with “clean water” and left the pad overnight near a warm heater…
the results were the same as when I placed them overnight on the soles of my feet…
a dark sticky gooey substance appeared on the pad..
They also left the soles of my feet with a burning sensation…
Big Red Flag on this one…
David
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io
Jun 25, 2007 - 3:20AM Re: David Hudson
Hi David,
if you need help regarding detoxification of heavy metals etc…
you may take the Phoenix-detoxification-products:
http://www.phoenix-arzneimittel.de/star ... rodtxt.htm
It is a german corporation, but you may get the products in Canada too.
I did consume those ..after removing the amalgam/mercury from my teeth,
and ..after eating too many burgers in Yelm…… it worked for me.
See you better!
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whatchamacallit
Jun 25, 2007 - 3:47PM Re: David Hudson
Detoxing heavy metals from one's system is very important. There are hospitals and physicians who will work with patients to do just that. It's "real".
There are a number of illnesses related to metal toxicity in the human body.
Of course, having a good program in which to do it, may be another conversation.
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