seriously My RSE story
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:29 am
I grew up in a conservative area and was brought up Catholic. Although my Mom is congenial and easy to get along with, she never fit in. She was always looking for something more. The metaphysical and eventually the new age movement were her salvation from the mundane. As a kid (7-12) I remember seeing Edgar Cayce books around the house. I really didn't know what it was all about but I remember my Mom taking a trip to Virginia to go to a workshop. She would often discuss past lives, auras, channeling and other metaphysics. It always made me feel uncomfortable but over the years, it seemed to some how gain in normalcy for me. I remember there were times when I was around 12 when my Mom would hypnotize my sister and she would supposedly channel entities. My sister was about 10 at the time and was most likely trying to please Mom.
Then, one fateful day in approximately 1985 or 86, my parents went to a friends house and watched a Ramtha tape. The hook was set. I was in the 10th grade and my life would never be quite the same. My parents sold their house in preparation for a move to the West Coast. Their cash and savings were used to purchase gold. I lived with my Grandmother off and on for the next few years while my parents and sister moved into a relatives house and then rented a house. They were waiting for my sister and I to finish high school before departing for Yelm. Compared to a lot of RSE followers, that was a generous/selfless act. During my high school years, I was inundated with doomsday talk including aliens, the gray men, secret government groups, earth changes, impending DOOM! You get the idea. "Read this paper. Look at this video. See, our monetary system is going to collapse. The earth is going to go through changes and we need to survive." I was young, fairly naive and pretty uninformed in how the world worked. I bought a lot of the doom and gloom talk. It weighed heavily on me. I was a young guy. I wanted all the normal things high school guys want. I wanted to play sports, hang out with my friends, chase girls, make some money and generally have fun. I also wanted to prepare for some kind of future but being told constantly that there was no future to look forward to was disheartening.
I cared about my friends and relatives and wanted to warn them of the impending changes so they could prepare. Bad idea. All I did was alienate people. I became somewhat obsessed with the doomsday scenarios and as a result had some bouts with anxiety and lost some relationships that were important to me. By the time I was in my 2nd year of college, my parents and sister were in the Yelm area and deeply involved in RSE. This was 1989. I came to WA for a visit and loved it. Of course, it was summer and the weather was awesome and everything was green. I went hiking at Mt. Rainier and thought; "how cool is this". Plus, the beach was only an hour and a half away. I could live here. I decided to move. The decision was made easier because my longtime girlfriend and I had recently broken up. She was a wonderful person but couldn't deal with the constant negativity and doomsday talk. She eventually said; we have very different ideas about the future and I don't want to be a part of the type of future you constantly talk about. I was devastated. I left college on the East Coast, took my meager amount of savings and decided to take on a big life change. I moved to Rainier, WA with my parents and sister. I was told how I would become enlightened, be able to materialize anything I wanted and I would eventually become a Christ. I was in a very weak emotional state. In addition to being young (19 or 20) and impressionable, I was also emotionally weak from my recent breakup with my girlfriend and years of fear mongering from my family. I attended a RSE beginners event. My first impression was actually a good one. I was skeptical but I thought no one could come up with this varied knowledge. It must be real. Keep in mind, this was before you could Google a line of text and see its origin. I was committed at that point. At the time, the teachings were all about C & E, field work, creating your own reality, the color/light spectrum, government conspiracies and aliens. I always liked a beer or two and I distinctly remember JZ/Ramtha saying "you're creating a new brain with the breath (C&E). Alcohol kills the new brain." So, I stopped drinking all together. I remember seeing Linda Evans and Yani with his awesome mustache and flowing main at an event. My parents were full on into the teachings and the fear mongering. My Dad wore copper in his baseball cap to block the government signals which were being used for mind control. Flouride in water was evil as were debit cards. They thought if you had a debit card, the government would then know everything you spent money on. Aliens were constantly discussed and the idea of getting an underground was just starting to take shape. I went to two week long retreats and parted ways with a good chunk of my savings. I was a kid with pretty limited resources. I can't think of the exact moment when I thought it was all BS but I remember having the urge to yell "Hey JZ" right as Ramtha walked down the aisle to see if she would instinctively respond to her name. Unfortunately, I chickened out. I eventually decided RSE wasn't for me and stopped going to events.
Based on a suggestion by Joe SZ of EMF forum fame, I recently read Bounded Choice and it applied to my difficulties leaving RSE. Even though I came to the realization it was BS, I was still very conflicted. The trap. The fear. What if it is real? I'll never reach my potential. What if I'm not prepared and all or some of the doomsday crap is real. It was very difficult. In the end, I decided to get my own apartment, get a job and finish college. After some time away, I realized my decision was 100% correct. After being a part of it and then separating yourself from the craziness, you see RSE for what it is. I'm in my 40s now and work in a technical job requiring good logic and troubleshooting skills. My job and life experience just reinforced how illogical the doomsday theories are.
I am still close with my parents and sister but they're very much full on Ramsters and have been for well over 20 years. They have hooded capes. They take late night walks. They still fear aliens and feel impending doom is right around the corner. They've never met a conspiracy theory they didn't like and lack the ability to think logically. Last year it was the dark planet or brown sun that was going to crash through our solar system and Japan was going to fall into the ocean and create a 500ft tsunami. There was a money scare. Our government was going to stop printing money. After events, I generally get an earful about how I'm not preparing and this or that is going to happen any day. Prepare for the end days! I think my Dad stopped wearing copper in his hats. So, maybe some progress has been made. I'm kidding of course. It's worse than ever. All food is blessed with hands held over the food and a so be it. My Dad has lost some of his humanity. He doesn't come out and say it but I know he feels that people not in the school are less than. People outside the school are choosing their own path and they're choosing not to be saved/enlightened and therefore will not be a part of the future/Ramtha's army.
Over the years RSE masters have been murdered, died of cancer, had their homes foreclosed on and had businesses fail. These are the people that are supposed to have the tools, thanks to RSE, to create their own reality. Why would they choose murder, illness or failure? Although just about every person that has gone to RSE probably focused on winning the lottery, has a RSE member ever won the lottery? No. JZ has not aged well and has resorted to a significant amount of plastic surgery. If your thoughts can change your body, why go under the knife? Very few if any of JZ/Ramtha predictions have come to pass. It was supposed to be a 7 year school of enlightenment. Yet, no one has ascended or has done anything that's really very spectacular. All of these are pretty basic red flags that should be picked up on but the RSE blinders are on my family and there's no convincing them otherwise. Logic and sound judgment has been lost.
I now have a niece whom I love very much. I'm worried she's going to be indoctrinated into RSE. I think she's been to an event with her mother already. I can't begin to tell you how upsetting that is to me. I know how RSE has negatively impacted my life and I don't want the same for her. I'm not sure what to do though.
Well, that's a cliff notes version of my RSE story. I love my family very much. I hope they realize RSE is a scam and get out at some point. I also sincerely hope they can deal with the disappointment and knowledge that they wasted a lot of their lives and money on a lie.
Then, one fateful day in approximately 1985 or 86, my parents went to a friends house and watched a Ramtha tape. The hook was set. I was in the 10th grade and my life would never be quite the same. My parents sold their house in preparation for a move to the West Coast. Their cash and savings were used to purchase gold. I lived with my Grandmother off and on for the next few years while my parents and sister moved into a relatives house and then rented a house. They were waiting for my sister and I to finish high school before departing for Yelm. Compared to a lot of RSE followers, that was a generous/selfless act. During my high school years, I was inundated with doomsday talk including aliens, the gray men, secret government groups, earth changes, impending DOOM! You get the idea. "Read this paper. Look at this video. See, our monetary system is going to collapse. The earth is going to go through changes and we need to survive." I was young, fairly naive and pretty uninformed in how the world worked. I bought a lot of the doom and gloom talk. It weighed heavily on me. I was a young guy. I wanted all the normal things high school guys want. I wanted to play sports, hang out with my friends, chase girls, make some money and generally have fun. I also wanted to prepare for some kind of future but being told constantly that there was no future to look forward to was disheartening.
I cared about my friends and relatives and wanted to warn them of the impending changes so they could prepare. Bad idea. All I did was alienate people. I became somewhat obsessed with the doomsday scenarios and as a result had some bouts with anxiety and lost some relationships that were important to me. By the time I was in my 2nd year of college, my parents and sister were in the Yelm area and deeply involved in RSE. This was 1989. I came to WA for a visit and loved it. Of course, it was summer and the weather was awesome and everything was green. I went hiking at Mt. Rainier and thought; "how cool is this". Plus, the beach was only an hour and a half away. I could live here. I decided to move. The decision was made easier because my longtime girlfriend and I had recently broken up. She was a wonderful person but couldn't deal with the constant negativity and doomsday talk. She eventually said; we have very different ideas about the future and I don't want to be a part of the type of future you constantly talk about. I was devastated. I left college on the East Coast, took my meager amount of savings and decided to take on a big life change. I moved to Rainier, WA with my parents and sister. I was told how I would become enlightened, be able to materialize anything I wanted and I would eventually become a Christ. I was in a very weak emotional state. In addition to being young (19 or 20) and impressionable, I was also emotionally weak from my recent breakup with my girlfriend and years of fear mongering from my family. I attended a RSE beginners event. My first impression was actually a good one. I was skeptical but I thought no one could come up with this varied knowledge. It must be real. Keep in mind, this was before you could Google a line of text and see its origin. I was committed at that point. At the time, the teachings were all about C & E, field work, creating your own reality, the color/light spectrum, government conspiracies and aliens. I always liked a beer or two and I distinctly remember JZ/Ramtha saying "you're creating a new brain with the breath (C&E). Alcohol kills the new brain." So, I stopped drinking all together. I remember seeing Linda Evans and Yani with his awesome mustache and flowing main at an event. My parents were full on into the teachings and the fear mongering. My Dad wore copper in his baseball cap to block the government signals which were being used for mind control. Flouride in water was evil as were debit cards. They thought if you had a debit card, the government would then know everything you spent money on. Aliens were constantly discussed and the idea of getting an underground was just starting to take shape. I went to two week long retreats and parted ways with a good chunk of my savings. I was a kid with pretty limited resources. I can't think of the exact moment when I thought it was all BS but I remember having the urge to yell "Hey JZ" right as Ramtha walked down the aisle to see if she would instinctively respond to her name. Unfortunately, I chickened out. I eventually decided RSE wasn't for me and stopped going to events.
Based on a suggestion by Joe SZ of EMF forum fame, I recently read Bounded Choice and it applied to my difficulties leaving RSE. Even though I came to the realization it was BS, I was still very conflicted. The trap. The fear. What if it is real? I'll never reach my potential. What if I'm not prepared and all or some of the doomsday crap is real. It was very difficult. In the end, I decided to get my own apartment, get a job and finish college. After some time away, I realized my decision was 100% correct. After being a part of it and then separating yourself from the craziness, you see RSE for what it is. I'm in my 40s now and work in a technical job requiring good logic and troubleshooting skills. My job and life experience just reinforced how illogical the doomsday theories are.
I am still close with my parents and sister but they're very much full on Ramsters and have been for well over 20 years. They have hooded capes. They take late night walks. They still fear aliens and feel impending doom is right around the corner. They've never met a conspiracy theory they didn't like and lack the ability to think logically. Last year it was the dark planet or brown sun that was going to crash through our solar system and Japan was going to fall into the ocean and create a 500ft tsunami. There was a money scare. Our government was going to stop printing money. After events, I generally get an earful about how I'm not preparing and this or that is going to happen any day. Prepare for the end days! I think my Dad stopped wearing copper in his hats. So, maybe some progress has been made. I'm kidding of course. It's worse than ever. All food is blessed with hands held over the food and a so be it. My Dad has lost some of his humanity. He doesn't come out and say it but I know he feels that people not in the school are less than. People outside the school are choosing their own path and they're choosing not to be saved/enlightened and therefore will not be a part of the future/Ramtha's army.
Over the years RSE masters have been murdered, died of cancer, had their homes foreclosed on and had businesses fail. These are the people that are supposed to have the tools, thanks to RSE, to create their own reality. Why would they choose murder, illness or failure? Although just about every person that has gone to RSE probably focused on winning the lottery, has a RSE member ever won the lottery? No. JZ has not aged well and has resorted to a significant amount of plastic surgery. If your thoughts can change your body, why go under the knife? Very few if any of JZ/Ramtha predictions have come to pass. It was supposed to be a 7 year school of enlightenment. Yet, no one has ascended or has done anything that's really very spectacular. All of these are pretty basic red flags that should be picked up on but the RSE blinders are on my family and there's no convincing them otherwise. Logic and sound judgment has been lost.
I now have a niece whom I love very much. I'm worried she's going to be indoctrinated into RSE. I think she's been to an event with her mother already. I can't begin to tell you how upsetting that is to me. I know how RSE has negatively impacted my life and I don't want the same for her. I'm not sure what to do though.
Well, that's a cliff notes version of my RSE story. I love my family very much. I hope they realize RSE is a scam and get out at some point. I also sincerely hope they can deal with the disappointment and knowledge that they wasted a lot of their lives and money on a lie.