The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

If they were to just stop and realize that the universe is operating independent of their actions..!
There will be a greater surprise in store for them.

"Please continue otherwise we have to stop this experiment"....!
From the Milgram Experiment

"No one fails this school you can only quite"....!
Sign on the wall at RSE

The Science of Scams is a new project from Channel 4 and mentalist/magician Derren Brown that aims to debunk the paranormal industry's lucrative claims about ghosts, fortune-telling, telekinesis and other assorted woo woo. Brown and C4 produced seven videos purporting to show the kind of "paranormal" activity held up as evidence of the supernatural and released them on YouTube for several weeks, allowing people to make what they will of them. Now, they're revealing the hoax videos once per week, with accompanying videos that explain how the scam works. The show is presented by Kat the Scientist, who did postgrad research in Biological Anthropology and Pharmacology at Oxford.

Science of Scams - Home page
http://www.scienceofscams.com/

I wonder how well it would go down if we sent a link about it through to JZ and a few current students

Bronnikov...
My son is reading the book. His eyes are blindfolded… Is it a fantasy, a trick? No, it is not. This is only one of the abilities my son has developed using my method. Besides he can diagnose diseases and treat patients, he is able never to be ill and never to be tired,…Welcome to Bronnikov method
http://www.bronnikovmethod.com/

Derren Brown...
I’m astonished that no one is questioning how meaningless all of this is…

Derren Brown....
To me it’s important that the Bronnikov promises are backed up by real abilities
To others the hope of extraordinary development may be enough, and of course, false hope may be invaluable,
The balance lies in insuring the key figures spreading and profiting from the hope are held accountable
so that people searching can make the best informed life decisions for themselves.

There are nine RSE students in this video

Do you mean in the Derren Brown videos? I haven't watched them yet...

Posted by onehandontheelephant
Why did JZ Knight send followers to spy on the developer of Mind Sight Lloyd Hopkins?

I call myself onehandontheelephant because I believe that each of us has our own experience of the “truth,” just like the blind men who each touched and described an elephant in a very different way. I hope the following experience of mine will be of some value to those who seek to make known the unknown about JZ Knight and RSE.

The following events took place in the early- to mid-1990s. (If anyone needs to know exactly when they took place, I will try to dig up my calendars from those years). Roy resident Lloyd F. Hopkins (now deceased) had developed a program for expanding human awareness beyond the five senses. Specifically, in a set number of weekly lessons (which took a little over a year), he trained blind (and sighted) people to see without the use of their physical eyes. Although his book, Mind Sight and Perception, published in 1988, is out of print, it’s available as an e-book through the following link (I have my own print copy but have nothing to do with selling the e-book): http://www.clspress.com/mindsight.html

I and other friends who were Ramtha students at the time attended demonstrations of Mind Sight. We also saw a videotape of a Seattle TV news reporter’s experience in which Mr. Hopkins left the room while the female reporter wrote something on a piece of paper and sealed it in an envelope. Hopkins returned to the room and the reporter held the sealed envelope behind her back. Hopkins read the message, to the amazement of the reporter. (The M.S. book contains specific, detailed information such as names and photos of M.S. students, organizations where M.S. demonstrations took place, and newspaper articles about those demonstrations.)

A few years later, after I had stopped attending RSE, I asked Mr. Hopkins to train me in Mind Sight. Although he had been accepting only blind students for a while, he agreed to give me the weekly lessons if I would help him write another book. HE SAID THAT HIS PRACTICE OF MIND SIGHT HAD LED HIM TO SPONTANEOUSLY EXPERIENCE LEVITATION, DEMATERIALIZATION AND REMATERIALIZATION, AND OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE THE NORMAL REALM OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE. HE WAS ELDERLY BY THEN, AND HE WANTED TO GET HIS METHODS IN WRITING. Some of these experiences are described in the e-book. I should also note that Hopkins never charged for M.S. training and didn’t allow those he trained to charge for teaching M.S. to others.

I had several of his weekly lessons. Then one day, when I showed up for my session, Hopkins was extremely upset. He said he could not teach me anymore, because he couldn’t trust anyone from Yelm. When I asked why, he explained that he’d had one other sighted student, a woman, whom he’d been teaching for quite a while. She had just confessed to him that she had come to care for and respect him so much, SHE COULDN’T LIE TO HIM ANY LONGER. SHE SAID THAT JZ KNIGHT HAD SENT HER TO SPY ON HOPKINS for two reasons: 1) She was supposed to report back to JZ on Hopkins’ methods for Mind Sight training and why they worked so well (the implication this woman gave Hopkins was that Mind Sight worked much better than methods taught at RSE). 2) She was supposed to try to get specific names of Hopkins’ students so that JZ could get the names of any RSE students who were getting trained by Hopkins.

Well, I did my best to assure Mr. Hopkins that I was no longer affiliated in any way with JZ or RSE, but he said he felt so betrayed that he would never teach anyone from Yelm. He died a few years later.

I leave it to you all to ponder the questions this raises about RSE and JZ.
- A Bravenet.com Forum
http://pub43.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... 7&cmd=show

Derren Brown: Miracles for Sale

With the cameras in hot pursuit, Derren faces his toughest project yet, going in search of an unsuspecting member of the British public prepared to adopt the guise of a pastor and miracle worker.

His chosen one then has six months to learn the trade and flourish across the pond as a convincing pastor.

The final phase of the volunteer’s extraordinary challenge sees them attempt to perform faith healing miracles live in Texas, but will Derren’s new recruit be accepted as a faith healer or cast away as fake healer?

Derren Brown: Miracles for Sale | Watch Free Documentary Online
Link...
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/derren-b ... -for-sale/

Derren Brown
"I am often dishonest in my techniques, but always honest about my dishonesty. As I say in each show, 'I mix magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship'. I happily admit cheating, as it's all part of the game. I hope some of the fun for the viewer comes from not knowing what's real and what isn't. I am an entertainer first and foremost, and I am careful not to cross any moral line that would take me into manipulating people's real-life decisions or belief systems."

Real or fake? We like to think that mind control requires a Hollywood style "Jason Bourne" psyop.... it could be a lot easier than that

Derren Brown -The downsides of positive thinking -
Psychology
Illusionist and writer Derren Brown discusses why we should be rethinking our traditional concept of happiness.
Could optimism and positive thinking actually have a harmful effect on our wellbeing?

Here > hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_yAp3sLSM