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xindy

So now the $64,000 question...Is it possible to create a new identity at 60 yrs. of age? Optimystic xindy... ?A rose by any other name would smell as sweet? In the interest of coherency and integrity on EMF. It is not advisable to post under different names, especially on the same thread. Thank you...

xindy

xindy said: Since I've made the connection between RSE & my marriage, I've also uncovered the horrifying fact that I NEVER truly had control of my feelings. This is just too much to digest & I'm spinning out of control b/c I now KNOW the TRUTH OF MY ENTIRE LIFE. My parents didn't consciously...

xindy

Watcha, I'm so sorry about your grandfather, it was thoughtless of me not to have mentioned that in my reply to your Post. I didn't plan on Posting again on EMF but I want to let you know why I said I'm throwing in the towel. I can't believe I wrote that! That's NOT me. I've struggled to survive th...

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Xindy, a few days ago I was going to post a simple message to you - "Are you okay?" my feelings weren't wrong and I would imagine that many others reading your posts were concerned for your well being. You have now told us what the problem is. You need help outside this forum to change yo...

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Watcha said: good for you.....you are making progress ! gosh, what a small world that you would end up here, making the correlations you are making between your relationship and cult tactics. Now that I've made the connection between RSE & my abusive marriage of 40 yrs. (2 good yrs.), I am more ...

xindy

California Dreamin' wrote:Xindy -

I sent you a PM (private message).

CD

I did get one, is there another? If so, I didn't get it.

xindy

G2G I have Posted some very PERSONAL Information on the "Friends and Family Members" forum...entitled "Message to G2G."

Please read it. I feel terrible how I reacted to your Post about Family posting hatred things about JZ Knight. My explanation is on this new Post. :?

xindy

G2G said: If my family were to post here in an angry manner over RSE, I can honestly say to them, "why would you bring this into your life, since *I AM OUT* of that place? What have I done to enrage you so that you post in such anger and joshing violence about RSE, which you haven't experienced...

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Tree said: Anyway, xindy, your sinceritly and sweetness do come out in your posts, so keep on truckin' GF Thank You so much. I can't even begin to tell you how much light you've shed on me by telling me of your experiences when you were still with RSE. I still get shivers when I think of you walking...

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G2G said: If my family were to post here in an angry manner over RSE, I can honestly say to them, "why would you bring this into your life, since *I AM OUT* of that place? What have I done to enrage you so that you post in such anger and joshing violence about RSE, which you haven't experienced...

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Sad said: So, Xindy, don't leave just because you are afraid of hurting someone's feelings. I have read all the posts and have not seen anyone speak of you hurting their feelings, but in your desire to empathize with others, I suspect you are imagining that you are saying hurtful things, in the cour...

xindy

Watcha said: recently, folks have said "just kidding". i believe they are "just kidding", but at a deeper root, we're witnessing the crying out of pain in their hearts. that, too, needs compassion. I can't speak for Sad & Oldone but as for myself, I'm crying out of pain in my...

xindy

A very disturbing aspect of the RSE teachings is that one must absolutely guard all of their thoughts, as thoughts are the seeds of reality. Have you ever tried not to think of the elephant sitting in front of you in the room? It's impossible. Just as it's impossible not to have certain random thou...

xindy

After thinking about WHY I changed my username to Optimystic, I realized it was b/c my sister said I had to protect my privacy b/c of JZ's snoops. I AM NOT GOING TO SUBMIT TO FEAR OF ANY KIND! I'M KEEPING MY REAL USERNAME! If JZ wants me b/c of what I wrote about her...I'll just give a shout to Sad...

xindy

G2G said: I know there are a lot of family members reading here and posting here. I feel for those of you having family leaving/or gone to Yelm. But, for those of you who DO have family members who are "out" of RSE, take a moment and think. Does your family member express "rage" ...

xindy

G2G said: "I'm not angry with jzrk, nor do I wish her harm. I'm simply happy to no longer be there, and it wasn't that long. Nor do I punish myself or feel guilt. I did learn to not throw the baby out with the bathwater. The bottom line is, sometimes you just had to be there....to understand. A...

xindy

"Holy Smokes Batman!" (watcha's phrase, I Love it) I am responsible for posting what I'd like to do to JZ/R if I met her face to face...it was intended to be FUNNY & not taken seriously. I'm a passivist & believe that violence leads to more violence. Sad Grandfather & Oldone ma...

xindy

Hey, Xindy, it's just my personal opinion, but you seem to be overly afraid of offending someone. So the moderators edited your post. Big deal! If they thought it needed deleting they can do so. Stop apologizing so much. Some of mine have been editied and so be it. Whoops! aren't those last three w...

xindy

Xindy, I made a post, for you, on "Is RSE a Cult", about apologizing too much, so won't repeat it here. Again, just my opinion, and certainly NOT intended to hurt your feelings. Don't be afraid to be yourself! Thanks Sad...You are so SWEET. I know we were joking around about JZ/R but I gu...

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I see all the Moderator edits on my post & request that my post be removed in its entirety. This was a really dumb post & my WORDS set off a chain reaction on another Forum. This post does not belong on a site dedicated to helping ex-RSE, those thinking of leaving RSE or other cults. EMF Mod...

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I agree with AD60. Even though I believe the "revenge" postings were made in jest, I believe they should not be posted on this forum. As an ex-RSE student, although I was certainly "conned" by JZR, BUT not for one minute do I ever wish for a violent revenge. To a newcomer who re...

xindy

As much as I appreciate Sad Grandfather and OldOne and Xindy, and the dialogue you've initiated and shared, all the gun and rocket and violence stuff is quite unnerving to me and my paranoid cynical self. Just the other day a big deal was made on the news about two teenagers talking violence agains...

xindy

Hello Sad About your daughter knowing everything now,I started with JZR in 1982,at that time it was fun to go to Dialogue an so call learning about the real truth,We moved to Yelm in 1989,did our first requirement fallow up,an after those two events Like your daugther we new everything. But later I...

xindy

Welcome back xindy! If you need me, just let me know! You set her up and I'll take her down! Anytime I say anything to my daughter about RSE or abandoning her family or taking her children into the cult she says I am just trying to MANIPULATE HER! Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees! But...

xindy

After thinking about WHY I changed my username to Optimystic, I realized it was b/c my sister said I had to protect my privacy b/c of JZ's snoops. I AM NOT GOING TO SUBMIT TO FEAR OF ANY KIND! I'M KEEPING MY REAL USERNAME! If JZ wants me b/c of what I wrote about her...I'll just give a shout to Sad ...

xindy

EMFWebmaster wrote:Dear xindy,

but I think I'm going to be told to re-register using a new username
This is correct.
It is not possible for us to change anyone's registered user name.

The Moderators.

Thank You. I will register as Optimystic.

xindy

Watcha or Moderator, etc.

I'd like to change my username from xindy (too close to real name) to something else. Do I have to Register as a NEW member?

I sent an email to EMF Message Board but I think I'm going to be told to re-register using a new username.

Any advice would be appreciated.

xindy

xindy, sorry that's all i can say about what's going on...i'm sure you can understand why that sort of "stuff going on" isn't going to be posted on here. why it's taking so long...well...that's relative. i see it as a lot has gone on and much has been exposed. there are a lot of websites/...

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xindy, you sound like ramtha at a wine ceremony ! ROLF !! be careful, she'll get jealous if she has competition. just ask audrey and joe, to name a few discarded competitors. Do you think I got her shakin. :evil: Hey anybody can imitate her, just watch her old Merv Griffin show. I learned some of h...

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Hey guys,

OOP!

Forgot to mention this was done in humor, not serious. Something you can laugh at or respond.

xindy

CD said, "I was very afraid to allow "doubt" to enter my consciousness, and was afraid I would somehow be taken down by Ramtha if I read the various EMF postings." So glad you mentioned that !! Just want to comment, for anyone who doesn't already know it; it is very, very common...

xindy

xindy writes: An Exerpt of my original Post "This is my first post on EMF" NEEDS CLARITY!!! I am so proud that my sister didn't stay in RSE for as long as some of the posters whose stories were simply horrifying to me. My only knowledge of RSE was from videos and multitudes of literature ...

xindy

I forgot, make JZ/R drink the so called, "Elixir of Life" too!

xindy

that's my fantasy -- a large group of us going to an event and when Ramtha comes out and starts talking we all laugh...and laugh ...and laugh. Wouldn't it be awesome if all ex-RSE members put on suits of armor & act like the gods/Masters & TAKE JZ/R DOWN! You all know Ramtha's lingo...You c...

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xindy- not to worry about any steps back or whatever, by any of us. At any given time, we can not answer, or not come to the forums if we are not up to it. You never know when a one-liner will spark an "a-ha!" for someone. Your contributions make for a larger view. Thank YOU! :) Thank You...

xindy

I just read and re read this post as I have never told this story to anybody. I find it UTTERLY amazing I even consented to this at all. And the utter fear of not being able to talk because we were told not to. How brainwashed is THAT? And to DEMAND my son and I not got any further once we arrived ...

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Watcha said we were told that the old and new testaments were about "gods" (lower case g), who are all space brothers; the bad ones want to eat us, the good ones want to guide us to evolve; the stories of abductions, etc. I found information on Wiki about reptillians, Lemur, Mu, Atlantis, ...

xindy

I've discovered that ex-RSE members still carry a "Fear of JZ/R's vengeance that she will 'take them down' and can understand their FEAR." I think I've been doing more harm than good by making ex members relive an experience they would rather forget. PLEASE, if I ask a question, don't feel...

xindy

CD said, "I was very afraid to allow "doubt" to enter my consciousness, and was afraid I would somehow be taken down by Ramtha if I read the various EMF postings." So glad you mentioned that !! Just want to comment, for anyone who doesn't already know it; it is very, very common...

xindy

Tree said, "cats , in particular, were for women who lost all love interest in men. The more the woman had cats, the "worse" in a Ramster's eyes they were." How would JZ/R know if you had pets of any kind? You couldn't bring them to RSE could you? and guess how many Ramsters went...

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JZ Knight's greatest achievement was the PERFECT HUMAN... THE RAMBOT I can see through most of the posts that you call yourselves Ramsters or ex-Ramsters. It sounds so much like a hamster. Running on a wheel & never being able to reach the end, for there is no end for the hamster. But as all ex-...

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Dreamin said With my newfound freedom I got to do things I had always wanted to do but never could, because all of my free time and money was spent in Yelm. I even got the dogs I had always desperately dreamed of having. (sidebar: At one time Ramtha had discouraged us from having pets as they took u...

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G2G said I hope this helps you and yours, because nothing is more tragic than losing your loved ones. I've realized that those I lost are not "forever gone." That helps. But I am still grieving here and there, and I truly don't like to get all dressed up and dance the night away! I'd rathe...

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G2G said

Maybe someone should duct tape jzrk's hair extensions...and then whip them off! ooops, did I say that??
Shhh.

OMG! I LOVE IT!

xindy

David said: The Labyrinth, The Wine, Working the Field, The Audiences, Breathing Exercises View topic - The Tank http://www.enlightenmefree.com/phpbb3/phpBB-2.0.22/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=3304#3304 Thank You so much for the link to The Labyrinth...you also posted the link from the old EMF Forum whic...

xindy

Watcha said tree is correct, there are some folks who liked the tank. it was a challenge of sorts. i personally disliked it because i literally felt like a rat in a maze. one day, jzr commented about it, how "his people" (alien beings) were watching us to see our thoughts, actions/reaction...

xindy

And Xindy - don't think about pink elephants......
now stop thinking of pink elephants....

AD60, you're a hoot!

xindy

the Original EMF forum link... The Tank http://pub43.bravenet.com/forum/3633497066/show/605122 Thank You so much for this link. I have been searching & searching all forums & the old EMF forum for information about what the TANK actually is. I was lucky enough to read about some ex-RSE's ab...

xindy

A disturbing experience I encountered in the RSE Labyrinth, also known as ?The Tank? . There was a small child in the tank crying that everyone was sheepishly ignoring, including myself.. :cry: After all..the RSE indoctrinations were such that even children create their reality, and the all powerfu...

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Dreamin said, We had it driven into us that consciousness & energy create the nature of reality (C&E=R). We aspired to become fully conscious of all our thoughts, since thoughts coupled with actions directly impacted our individual realities. We were taught that all thoughts reverberated and...

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Watcha & G2G, my sister told me she didn't do the TANK thing, Thank God, after what Tree wrote. OMG!!! HAHAHAH! This was too fricking funny! It wasn't until I was several months into posting on here that I realized how abusive the tank was. I, for one, loved it....To me, I approached it like a k...

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I've been so busy with "politics," I've not been here much of late. I usually just click on the "new posts since last visit," and a *ton* of new ones came up. Xindy's experience sounds so close to mine, that I feel maybe I can be of some assitance, if at all. I, too, lost *three...

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To answer your question, I believe the guarding of the thoughts is a by product of mind control (whatever form jz uses). honeslty, I don;'t think she even knew that to be the case, otherwise she might have even upted the ante even more. Thank you Tree. I think it would be an impossible feat for a p...

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Xindy says: "your cancer is gone." That's something someone wouldn't say, I doubt, in RSE, or even those who are somehow "true healers" if it does exist. They claim to only focus on the person being healthy, so one saying, "your cancer is gone" is then in RSE speak, ac...

xindy

PLEASE TELL ME EVERYTHING.

I feel like I've walked into a Stephen King Novel.

Oldone, thanks for mentioning the "Tubes" as I NEVER heard of that term.

xindy

A very disturbing aspect of the RSE teachings is that one must absolutely guard all of their thoughts, as thoughts are the seeds of reality. Your reality or the reality that JZ/R's brainwashing techniques have made you to view reality the way He/She/It wants you to perceive it? I am totally uneduca...

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I have been searching the Forums of EMF and the old EMF message boards as to WHAT IS THE TANK? I don't think my sister participated in the TANK but she did give me some words/terminology and Tank, Wine Ceremonies, Neighborhood Walk, Oh My Heck, So Be It and some others to watch for. She didn't elabo...

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Watcha :lol: yeah, that is an apt description. you should copywrite it, you know ! You're so funny Watcha! In my readings about RSE and other cults, they all seem to have the same purpose and that is to KILL whatever "goodness" a person has embedded in their belief system and turn you into...

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I usually post on Friends and Family Members Forum. I've been reading so many posts from so many other Forums and wanted to see the responses to "Is RSE a cult?" For those of you who don't know me, I'm the sister of an ex-RSE member. I have NEVER been in a mind control group and I'm quite ...

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Thank You so much Tree. I was mainly concerned that YOU had lost TRUST in me since Watcha said ex-RSE members have a problem with TRUST.

Thank You for your understanding. I feel so much better now. :)

xindy

In my original post (This is my first post on EMF) and my (Re-Post) I made some remarks of what my sister was experiencing, from my point of view . I tried to point out my misinterpretations of my sister's well-being present-day. We live far apart and we don't see much of each other and I, therefor...

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I am reposting my FIRST post on EMF to make some necessary corrections that I feel I owe to my sister who has been following my posts. She "enlightened" me with why she wanted me to visit EMF . Hi Everyone, I am on this site because my sister, who is a recovering RSE member and posts on E...

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Thank You for defining the "phase" my sister is in. It is true, she cannot regain the time she lost b/c of her belief that she WOULD heal our sister and proceeded to follow that path of "thinking away our sister's cancer." Her GUILT of being so vulnerable and also her ANGER at le...

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Thank You Joe, it's a pleasure being here. I watched both LARSE videos you were in. My sister mentioned your name to me and that's why I first watched your videos. Thank You for helping those that feel they are beyond help. My sister has made some progress but then I suddenly feel her punishing hers...

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I know you can't be with her every time she experiences a trigger. And I know you can't be with her every time she has a meltdown or becomes despondant. But.... you will be the one person she knows she can trust. I am sooo glad she has you. And I am SOOOO glad you are there for her. God(whatever th...

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Thank You Tree. I've read many of your posts and, if I remember correctly, you were in RSE for many years. You are astounding! I've never been affiliated with cults of any kind and I am quite ignorant as to the terms many of you reference, so I'll be asking a lot of questions as to what something me...

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Hi Watchamacallit, I think my sister already bought the book, Take Back Your Life, as it sounds very familiar to me. She was in RSE for maybe 4 months (that's a guess). She said she was at a wine ceremony once but she mentioned something about not drinking it and being in a lock-down. :?: She and a ...

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Hi Everyone, I am on this site because my sister, who is a recovering RSE member and posts on EMF, invited me to read some of the posts to get some idea of the extent of damage ex-members experience. She tells me there are certain "triggers" that confuse her b/c she isn't sure if it is Ram...

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Re: xindy is Baaaack!

COPING & MAKING JOKES

RAMTHA NEEDS SPIES???

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xindy is Baaaack!

CHANGE MY USERNAME

RAMTHA NEEDS SPIES???

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PLEASE DON'T HATE ME - PLEASE FORGIVE ME

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