The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

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It wasn't just tomatoes. It was canned fruit as well, from California, Florida and, I think, Mexico. Those Mexicans again!

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Thanks for the clip, Vanilla. I then watched the whole episode. I needed that laugh.

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I believe Scamtha did say that Anita needed to learn about betrayal. I also heard that he said the same thing about everyone on EMF, a few years ago. This was after S/he realised that the "I will take them down" rants were not going anywhere.

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I know someone who made a fortune peddling an insustantial Reality called A Remarkable Life(tm).

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Pavel was married by Scamtha to Marjorie L, in the interests of living one's biology. I believe Marjorie was very wealthy. Scamtha would frequently publically humiliate Pavel over his homosexual fantasies, in the name of the truth teachings. At present Judy is trying to convince the community that s...

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Jingz, Scamtha was trying to wipe out Olympia and Virginia Coverdale, but he lost the coordinates, hopped on the wrong timeline, and landed on the East coast instead.

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Welcome, Roy. I was in the school for 23 years. Why, we may even have been partners at an event. Turn to your neighbour.... Whoops, is there a copyright on that?

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Vanilla, the videos are not taken down. They do not have to be taken down. Virginia cannot post any more videos for the next 2 weeks, but that ruling applies only to her.

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Haha, he's not even game enough to MC the halloween dance. Where's a good spook when you need him?

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Paul, most of the supposedly illegal aliens in the Yelm area are not illegal, they are over-stayers, that is to say they have over-stayed the length of their visa. There is a difference.

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. . . and don't forget the boat for the Mediterranean cruise at $20,000 a day.
. . . and bikinis, lots of bikinis. Let us never forget how good she thinks she looks in a bikini. . . or how superior she thinks she is to Oprah.

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http://theolympiareport.com/j-z-knight-under-scrutiny-for-encouraging-employment-fraud/ . (DEAD LINK) Authorities from the Washington State Department of Employment Security are probing charges that employees working for J.Z. Knight‘s Yelm-based Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment (JZK, Inc.) were rou...

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Here is an interesting article about the video http://thurston-opinions.blogspot.com/2012/10/supporter-sets-new-low-for-washington.html Thurston Opinions | Politics The conservative voice of Thurston County. Thursday, October 18, 2012 Supporter sets a new low for Washington Democrats (Thurston Count...

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Dear Bettye, since we are playing the quotation game, I will remind you of another Tolkien quote from "The Lord of the Rings" - "Not all those who wander are lost' And another quotation for you to ponder from JK Rowling"s, "Harry the Potter" (as Scamtha refers to him) -...

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Haha, and when you can resurrect Seabiscuit and ride him, I will add a further $10,000 to Seriously's offer.

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EE is planning a wild rumpus on Bondi Beach, Sydney on Xmas day. All welcome. Bring your own surf board, board shorts and beer. I will bring the meat pies and pavlova. We plan to watch the wave roll in. Surfing optional.

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I am person E, whose story is told above, or at least a small part of the story of my journey in and out of the school. I was under the RSE thrall for 23 years, from 1987 to 2010, and am now glad to find myself enlightened and aware of the fraud of RSE. It's good to throw off those blinders and the ...

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Where would Bettye and many others be without the school? It is understandable that they feel threatened. Their whole identity would be shattered. A very sad situation that we can all identify with. It's so good to be on the other side of the ditch.

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Good response, Virginia.
Where did Bette's letter appear?

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I know what the idea of suggestion means but have never actually studied it and I have watched Derren Brown's videos but they are not really what I am after. He is into fooling people and not into the science of the extraordinary like levitation, mind-manifestation or enlightenment. Phill, you are ...

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Phill, have you ever heard of suggestion? I would also strongly recommend you watch the Derren Brown videos. They are excellent.

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It was also RSE students who paid for new, more high powered and more expensive speakers when they were replaced some years ago. Poor, poor JZ couldn't be expected to shoulder the full burden of such an expensive purchase, which after all was only for the benefit of the humble folkies. All the bette...

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Does this remind you of anyone? " You are stupid pissants and reptiles, who are lower than the primates, you can make whoopee if you want, but your whoopee makes me sickly... peace, peacce... You make your whoopee, while I do something that's far more significant, because I know exactly what's ...

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And BTW, who is SR?

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I was in the school from 1987, and I never heard any of these predictions, except for number 1. The reason the price of gold rises is because of inflation, and inflation is always a given in our society. This is not a difficult prediction to make. And remember a prediction is not the same as a proph...

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What a hoot!

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No fire alarms, and no fire brigade arrived as far as I remember. It was a small electrical fire. I am assuming they turned off the electricity, and doused it with the emergency equipment. But then again, maybe Mothman pissed on it. That would have done the trick.

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David, yes to your first question and No to your second question. There was a fire started once, a small one in a light in the ceiling almost directly above me. Several of us tried to get the staff's attention to alert them to the situation, and we were initially ignored, and then told to shut up. W...

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Yes, it is a normal year as far as disasters go. But you can't tell some people that. They don't want to hear. It's all a question of confirmation bias. They see and believe what they want to see and believe, and JZ and the 3 stooges are playing every reported disaster to the hilt. But of course tha...

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if you read this article carefully, you will see that JZ is, as usual, giving contradictory statements. First she implies that 2012 is all hype, and the fear facor has been caused by everyone else, but not herself or her imaginary friend. Then the second half of the article implies that there are go...

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Here's a news clip of the fire walk event.

http://youtu.be/CmJ9FF4RKe0

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She probably has a Get Out of Jail Free card because she contributed so much to the President's campaign fund. It would be interesting to know which other president's she has contributed to.

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I believe that Scamtha told us at the time that Hale-Bopp was an alien space craft, not a comet, and then of course, trotted out the same nonsence about Elenin.I don't know how s/he justifies "going back to shis past" like that. Could shis "vast" mind be running out of scenarios?

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It seems like a very good sign to me that she is planning for a future with the supposed apocalypse, just around the corner. I suggests she is thinking there is at least a 50:50 chance that it will not happen.

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It is a common occurrence for houses to be struck by lightning, and a common occurrence for such a power surge to fry a computer. I have had my home struck by lightning on more than one occasion during my lifetime. There is no need to postulate the wrath of Scamtha for these natual phenomena. Howeve...

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Thanks for those "lightening" descriptions, Eddie and Kelku. It's obvious that one doesn't get one's money's worth, by any applied standard. Scamtha has been complaining in recent times that he has been reduced to officiating at social events, and that people come to the school but don't s...

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Here is another of Judy/Scamtha's sources of information forming the basis of shis teachings. I came across this book recently in my email, sent to me as a recommendation from Amazon. It is a book by Alice Bailey, who was one of Helena Blavatsky's successors, and also, most likely, one of Vera Stanl...

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My experience is that this problem of disappearing posts has been occurring all of this year, on many boards. It is a constant problem on Yuku for instance, and is quite frequent on Facebook. Often the posts magically "return" after several hours or days. I suspect that this may be proof o...

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I remember many of these statements from the live streaming. I don't remember all of them but none of them is out of character with what was being said at that event.

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No doubt Scamtha taught the series' creators everything they know in a past life, and seeded their dreams with inspirations in this one.

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These 2 videos are very educational and very funny - James Randi reminiscing about the Carlos Hoax from 1988. This happened in Australia shortly after Scamtha made his first foray in Sydney in November 1987. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0hgP3ioAeA&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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I note the date on this video - Oct 2009. Hmmmm. I wonder of Scamtha has watched this.

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An excellent article, David.

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It's a good thing Nancy didn't have Scamtha on retainer. With shis abysmal record on predictions, what a disaster that could have been for Reagan.

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back in the late 1970s, the joke was that people entered est training with normal problems and came out obnoxious. Interesting to read your perspective, Joe. Gregory May also died 2 or 3 years ago. Here is a link to more info concerning legal proceedings against Gregory May and Associates. http://o...

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Gregory May is the husband of "non-Dr" Kathy May. I found this article by chance while googling for other things. It is a report of an investigation into, among other things, training programs that Gregory May provided to the FAA. It is a long document but an interesting read, and it begs ...

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I'll be there, with Seabiscuit.

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Thanks, Joe. I have enjoyed this book. It is a very worthwhile read. It certainly does a number on the Ascended Master theory.

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joe sz wrote:the real lesson is in the devotee that learns to see through the fake, not in the teaching of the guru.

Gotta agree with that 100%, Joe. It certainly has been an interesting learning.

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And part 2...

http://youtu.be/L2dJoI2ZxLQ

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Here is an interview with Vikram about Kumare.

http://youtu.be/B4vCvOVYyWE

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Here is a link to a trailer of a fascinating new movie/documentary. This man shows how easy it is to fake being a cult leader and atrract a following.

http://youtu.be/8Eyjeimdeg4

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Yes, Mitchell, it has become blatantly obvious that Scamtha doesn't have an original prediction of his own. Even JZ thinks she knows more than he does.

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A major red flag for me was when I did some research and found that all of JZR's crap predictions were coming from the internet.

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Love it!

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Many years ago, when my daughter was 12 months old, we took her to see a puppet show, Punch and Judy, in London. We were standing around before the show and the puppeteer came up and chatted with us, and asked us for our daughter's name. At one stage during the show, Punch called out "where is ...

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Positive karma might work OK, but negative karma can only create disharmony among members.

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it was as if the spell had been broken. Suddenly I could hear the stupidity, could see the misleading and abuse (yes I think we can call it that) of hours of ranting, personal attacks and cursing on the stage. Before that, I had been so blind to that. It was suddenly so clear that this had nothing ...

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JZRambles has stated on several occasions that I have heard, that the Mormons are closest to his/her teachings. S/he also claims to be the angel that gave the teachings to Joseph Smith, and s/he also taught Jesus Christ and was one of Joan of Arc's voices, and started the ancient mystery schools. Th...

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Oh dear, so they were close to the big R in his lifetime, too. No wonder they think they know more than a common weed. My heart goes out to you, Rooster.

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Rooster, I was in the school for 22 years and i personally found the book Prophet's Daughter to be very enlightening. I could see a lot of parallels with RSE. The book is also a fascinating story and very easy to read. My daughter was also in the school as a teenager. She got out of it on her own at...

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