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- Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:26 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
- Replies: 19
- Views: 15904
Re: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
Her local memorial service was held last night in Tenino, (15 convenient miles of separation from Yelm). I didn't attend, but the person conducting the memorial was scheduled to be none other than the infamous Miceal Ledwith, which lends a bitterly ironic note to Fiona's proper Catholic burial in he...
- Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:39 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
- Replies: 19
- Views: 15904
Re: Fiona Regan apparently shot herself
I just got confirmation (to my satisfaction) today that she did indeed shoot the dog and herself in the bathroom. It's being talked about quietly amongst the Ramsters but they're being very careful who they talk to.
- Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:32 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
- Replies: 19
- Views: 15904
Re: Fiona Regan apparently shot herself
The car accident in 2012 trashed her life; imagine being an Irish citizen in a foreign country with no health insurance or eligibility for benefits, making only a subsistence income with no savings... and we know where her $ probably went!! Very vulnerable position. One night in 2012 she falls aslee...
- Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:28 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
- Replies: 19
- Views: 15904
RSE student Fiona Regan shot herself
Cliff Keeslar, a few weeks ago.
This last week, Chris Dacek died at age 45. Esophageal varices got him.
Fiona Regan, the "kerfuffle girl" apparently shot her dog and then herself in her bathtub, if the grapevine is accurate.
This last week, Chris Dacek died at age 45. Esophageal varices got him.
Fiona Regan, the "kerfuffle girl" apparently shot her dog and then herself in her bathtub, if the grapevine is accurate.
- Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:21 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Tree posts moved from MikeW's thread Re: RSE Fire Codes
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9797
Re: Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
While the toxic emotional content is disagreeable to me, that's a personal thing and I have no desire to impose my preferences on anyone, because I can simply click myself into elsewhere. :-) No, my concern is that a clever lawyer has advised Mikey to make some innocent appearing statements to elici...
- Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:50 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Tree posts moved from MikeW's thread Re: RSE Fire Codes
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9797
Re: Mike Wright RSE Fire & Building Codes
not that I have one, but my vote says delete this thread. It started out toxic and unhealthy and went south from there.
btw, Mike, still waiting for a response from you on three different questions. If you have the nads, that is.
btw, Mike, still waiting for a response from you on three different questions. If you have the nads, that is.
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:17 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Hey MikeW 3 why all those innocent people were subpoenaed?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4058
Hey MikeW 3 why all those innocent people were subpoenaed?
From your fire code thread I can see you have intimate knowledge of the goings-on at RSE, so perhaps you could explain for us in detail exactly why all those innocent people were subpoenaed, what was the rationale? As a followup question, why is JZ suing David in NZ, when there will certainly be a m...
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:40 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Hey MikeW 2 the drinking of Red Devil Lye
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10275
Hey MikeW 2 the drinking of Red Devil Lye
now that you've demonstrated your intimate knowledge of the inner workings of RSE in your detailed response re: fire code compliance issues, perhaps you could now address the drinking of Red Devil Lye with equal detail.
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:15 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Hey MikeW regarding Omega
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4693
Hey MikeW regarding Omega
Now that you've demonstrated your intimate knowledge of all aspects of the RSE, perhaps you could provide an equally detailed explanation regarding Omega.
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:11 pm
- Forum: Fire, Health and Safety concerns at (RSE), a division of JZK Inc.
- Topic: RSE Fire & Building Codes - John Michael "Mike" Wright Legal Affairs Manager for JZK.Inc RSE.Inc - Music Copyrights
- Replies: 48
- Views: 31016
Re: John Michael "Mike" Wright is the Legal Affairs Manager for JZK.Inc RSE.Inc
The fact that Mike has appeared here to tell his story, and it is a "story", is that JZK knows they're in violation and are going to be busted for it. If they weren't vulnerable he wouldn't waste his time. He obviously feels that he is now an expert on fire codes and such, which is an inte...
- Tue May 14, 2013 2:43 am
- Forum: All Things EMF - Researching the Ramtha Cult? Use our EMF Search Engine
- Topic: VITRIOL
- Replies: 20
- Views: 14069
Re: VITRIOL
to Joe's question, there's a lot the witch has stolen that simply cannot be repaid, I need to recover certain things on my own, eg: self respect, trust of life, trustworthiness in the eyes of my family.
But I'd take 100K in USD to cover expenses.
But I'd take 100K in USD to cover expenses.
- Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:08 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
nice! good! hang in there HeyV
- Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:26 am
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Virginia Coverdale EE Moderating Concerns
- Replies: 57
- Views: 30409
Re: Virginia Coverdale EE Moderating Concerns
I'm concerned for both of you, for your health. consider a cease-fire, for crying out loud. Remember, part of the lure and addiction of the cult was the constant adrenaline rush, imminent perceived danger, and underlying conflict mixed with attitudes of moral/spiritual superiority. Are any of these ...
- Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:53 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I was hooked
- Replies: 31
- Views: 19100
Re: I was hooked
My friend, you have come to the right place. I respect all the feelings you are experiencing right now, and want you to understand they are totally normal. Keep reading, stay, and get your mind back! It will feel at times like a huge struggle, but always remember it's only worst in the beginning; ri...
- Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:27 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
Hang in there! the crushing depression is part of the stripping away of the pseudopersonality imposed by the cult. Keep on challenging those thoughts, questioning those assumptions, and try not to be harsh with yourself. Get professional help if you need to, talk to other human beings, go for a walk...
- Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:13 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: First move to Yelm, Washington Part 1 Derrick Lee
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8663
Re: First move to Yelm, Washington Part 1 Derrick Lee
welcome, Derrick.
That was one hell of a first post!
Your story is so full of heartbreak and loss.
You'll find much help and support here. Are you in touch with your son?
That was one hell of a first post!
Your story is so full of heartbreak and loss.
You'll find much help and support here. Are you in touch with your son?
- Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:15 pm
- Forum: About Staff & Cult Leaders: Its All About Me
- Topic: Paging Dr. Stupid
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9820
Re: Paging Dr. Stupid
I notice Dr Stupid's newsletter has stopped, or at least isn't posting new content...
maybe he's anticipating a subpoena himself?
maybe he's anticipating a subpoena himself?
- Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:08 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: Yelm NV News: Ex-RSE group battles subpoena
- Replies: 19
- Views: 16376
Re: Yelm NV News: Ex-RSE group battles subpoena
well said.
I think if she keeps going after the identities of people in a support group! for God's sake! it will backfire heavily on her. Looking at RSE's declining attendance and revenues, it's already begun to.
I think if she keeps going after the identities of people in a support group! for God's sake! it will backfire heavily on her. Looking at RSE's declining attendance and revenues, it's already begun to.
- Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:21 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
In so many ways we have been hurt so badly. Subtle ways, that steal your soul and your very Self from you. How one person can do all this for their own gain is unconscionable. My friends, victimhood is an illusion. We allowed this to happen to us for very real and forgivable reasons; let's not be to...
- Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:17 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Here's a comforting thought.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5573
Re: Here's a comforting thought.
true, true.
But I must say I do miss the lockdowns, something kind of fun about sleeping in and eating MREs in bed.
But I must say I do miss the lockdowns, something kind of fun about sleeping in and eating MREs in bed.
- Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:11 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Here's a comforting thought.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5573
Here's a comforting thought.
My realization of the day is this: When JZRamtha predicts something bad is going to happen, you can be assured with nearly 100% certainty that it will NOT happen. This is based on examination of 30 years' worth of predictions. It is a comforting thought that I can consult the predictions of Wrongtha...
- Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:58 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
OK, here goes My Story, V2.0... wherein I am grateful that all this happened. Coming up on the 5 month mark after waking up from the RSE nightmare now, feeling a bit better than I thought I would. The anxiety has mostly faded away, and I suddenly realized most of it had to do with the artificial lim...
- Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:17 am
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: EMF Subpoena Notices JZK, Inc vs. Coverdale
- Replies: 16
- Views: 18476
Re: EMF Subpoena Notices JZK, Inc vs. Virginia Coverdale
My first amendment rights will not be abridged, especially by a bloated, drunken and surgically augmented shyster. In my opinion, hehe...
- Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:16 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
hey V, You can recover from this situation. You have talents and resources that haven't been uncovered yet. I left RSE broke and homeless, my truck didn't even run. After the suicide attempt and hospitalization, I was really starting from ground zero. Here I am now with a lovely spouse, a home that'...
- Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:55 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Retraction
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6185
Re: Retraction
"fookie" isn't trademarked, LOL.
Peace,
Roy
Peace,
Roy
- Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:15 am
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: Here comes another one - February 2013
- Replies: 12
- Views: 11238
Re: Here comes another one - February 2013
they've definitely captured the essence of the illusion. Feeling so SPECIAL. Living the presumptuous arrogance of one who knows more than "ordinary people". Addicted to the feeling of a magical life to the point of denying grim reality (because if you look and actually see how shitty your ...
- Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:42 pm
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: Here comes another one - February 2013
- Replies: 12
- Views: 11238
Re: Here comes another one - February 2013
awesome, can't wait for the bootleg video version!
LOL
Good one, Ockham. Glass Onion, haha
LOL
Good one, Ockham. Glass Onion, haha
- Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:32 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 28799
Re: I am embarrassed that I did it again.
heyV, welcome. no no no suicide allowed on my shift! I did try to suicide when I left RSE back in the 90's and that didn't go well. I woke up in an intensive care unit feeling like a failure. Ugh ... then, speaking of embarassment, I returned to THE SAME CULT earlier this year... duh. OK. We have ma...
- Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:46 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Heard of Jerhoam/John Oliver ?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8900
Re: Heard of Jerhoam/John Oliver ?
omg, what a hoser.
at least JZK used to be a decent actress...
at least JZK used to be a decent actress...
- Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:35 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: EMF Subpoena Notices JZK, Inc vs. Coverdale
- Replies: 16
- Views: 18476
Re: EMF Subpoena Notices JZK, Inc vs. Virginia Coverdale
penalty flag is on the field for "misuse of terms". 5 yards, first down. tweet! "fookie" is an honorable term and a compliment. Strictly defined, it is a former folkie who you better not fuck with. I am proud to be a fookie. JZR will never be a fookie. to your point though, she i...
- Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:05 pm
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Contemplations for the Current Student
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7784
Re: Contemplations for the Current Student
yup. my meadow's pretty green and tasty now. amazing how my mind used to be ruled by the teachings... no matter what I thought, there was a fanatical dogma immediately following to judge the thought. It'll make you crazy. Got to the point where I was judging myself for having judgments against my ow...
- Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:19 pm
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: My mother joined RSE in 1986 when I was 14 years old.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 15218
Re: 'The White Book' Steven Weinberg Speaks Out...
hang in there, sunshine. Be kind to yourself as you go along.
- Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:22 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: the mindworm
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10274
Re: the mindworm
The other night I was in a fog, barely asleep, and became aware of a rectangular glowing hole in the middle of my ceiling. Amazing! then it winked out. A couple seconds later it happened again, as bright as could be, and my foggy brain finally said, "wait a minute". Maybe that's not a dime...
- Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:15 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
- Replies: 55
- Views: 34618
Re: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006
Agreed.
I hear heavy footsteps, JZK has her day of reckoning coming fast!
I hear heavy footsteps, JZK has her day of reckoning coming fast!
- Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:41 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: Dumbstruck!
- Replies: 15
- Views: 11196
Re: Dumbstruck!
welcome, Phoenix.
There's some great books out there about cults and their thought reform methods, and after reading some of them, RSE begins to take on a sickly greenish sort of light.
There's some great books out there about cults and their thought reform methods, and after reading some of them, RSE begins to take on a sickly greenish sort of light.
- Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:32 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Hate on Trial Guest Editorial by Virginia Coverdale
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3898
Re: Hate on Trial Guest Editorial by Virginia Coverdale
looks like JZ didn't create her day very well. She better get to walkin'
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 am
- Forum: RSE Discrepancies
- Topic: Do I Detect A Lie -- "Ramtha" JZ Knight
- Replies: 19
- Views: 14190
Re: Do I Detect A Lie -- "Ramtha" JZ Knight
must be hard, lying for 30 years then trying to keep track of them all. LOL
- Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:29 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Have you drunk the lye RSE concoction?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 11518
Re: Have you drunk the lye concoction?
welcome, msd.
Try not to be aconcerned, toothless tigers can only gum you.
I live around here too, PM if you like. Me and the wife are here for you.
I'm sorry to hear about the experience you had. Also happy it's over with for you! two thumbs up there!
welcome to EMF.
Try not to be aconcerned, toothless tigers can only gum you.
I live around here too, PM if you like. Me and the wife are here for you.
I'm sorry to hear about the experience you had. Also happy it's over with for you! two thumbs up there!
welcome to EMF.
- Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:01 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
OK, DaH, the key word is disillusionment. my story is posted elsewhere on the forum: http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1889#p14773 Disillusionment is usually construed as being painful or unpleasant, but the deeper meaning, that of having illusions removed and adjusting to t...
- Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:41 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
I am also interested to see what deafashell has to say about that.
To your question, DaH, how did I get to this moment of writing and admitting? Hmmmm...processing...
Very big gestalt there, a little bigger than I can get my arms around tonight.
To your question, DaH, how did I get to this moment of writing and admitting? Hmmmm...processing...
Very big gestalt there, a little bigger than I can get my arms around tonight.
- Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:11 am
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006.
- Replies: 55
- Views: 34618
Re: My sister killed herself after leaving this cult in 2006
good job. Glad you got out with your skin. Good to see you read the writing on the wall! Amazing how obvious it is once the blinders come off, huh?
Stay close, be kind to yourself.
Stay close, be kind to yourself.
- Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:53 pm
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Everyone has their own problems -
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6497
Re: Everyone has their own problems -
hang in there, SG
- Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:54 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Scamtha and the CIA
- Replies: 20
- Views: 16780
Re: Scamtha and the CIA
In Margaret Singer's book, Cults in Our Midst , she describes cultic control as an unauthorized, unconsented, unethical form of mind control experimentation on unknowing subjects. The purposes of JZ's experiment appear to be: -harvest as much money as possible from longterm students in every conceiv...
- Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:59 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Scamtha and the CIA
- Replies: 20
- Views: 16780
Re: Scamtha and the CIA
good insights Ockham, not that I need to tell you that- @Freenow, use your critical thinking skills again, revisit the link you posted, and review the table of contents for that publication. FDA responsible for PMS? The article re: JZK, yes, it's pretty damning, but one of the wonderful things about...
- Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:44 am
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: Scamtha and the CIA
- Replies: 20
- Views: 16780
Re: Scamtha and the CIA
suggestion: use critical thinking skills and ask yourself 1) how the Agency would benefit from influencing a small number of backwoods New Agers 2) whether persistence of such a program over 30 yr has produced benefit to the agenda 3) if anything happening at the Ranch affects geopolitics/national s...
- Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:21 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Seasons Greetings to Everyone on EMF
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5536
Re: Seasons Greetings to Everyone on EMF
merry Christmas WE and to all.
- Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:48 pm
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
well said, all. The initial shock for the soon-to-be former students is huge, the wakeup call is a very disturbing time, as I've just been through it and it's a fresh wound. This forum helped me a lot though; I read and read and read. The next phase is disturbing too, where you find yourself peeling...
- Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:59 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
students will likely be leaving en masse.
Going home and enjoying their lives for the first time in a long time.
Going home and enjoying their lives for the first time in a long time.
- Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:00 pm
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
well, the sun came out yesterday and it's shining right now! At this point of winter I call that a bonafide miracle!
- Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:56 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: How to identify a person or being who truly believes they cr
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3845
Re: How to identify a person or being who truly believes the
nicely done. I admire your clarity of thought.
- Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:31 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Nancy Lanza
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4839
Re: Nancy Lanza
two pistols and a Bushmaster is hardly an arsenal, but a mentally unstable person living in the house with access to them? Very dangerous.
If they find Ramtha books in the house... oh boy, will there be a ruckus.
If they find Ramtha books in the house... oh boy, will there be a ruckus.
- Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:27 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: the mindworm
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10274
Re: the mindworm
mindworm of the day:
I woke up and my DirecTV was out. no satellite signal. My wife asked why, I said "maybe a solar flare?" and checked NOAA site.
No solar flare. And my computer works. Duh.
I woke up and my DirecTV was out. no satellite signal. My wife asked why, I said "maybe a solar flare?" and checked NOAA site.
No solar flare. And my computer works. Duh.
- Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:23 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: the mindworm
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10274
Re: the mindworm
yes, frustrating Wof!
but the worm is losing badly, I can feel it. Like a snake shedding a skin.
If I apply the same focus and determination to recovery that I did to that hokey "school", I think rapid progress can occur.
but the worm is losing badly, I can feel it. Like a snake shedding a skin.
If I apply the same focus and determination to recovery that I did to that hokey "school", I think rapid progress can occur.
- Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:04 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: the mindworm
- Replies: 12
- Views: 10274
the mindworm
Early this morning I was out on my porch in the dark and I saw a blue orb. Whoa! Then I saw a white one flash in and out. Whoa! Then I realized my wife had blue christmas LEDs around the edge of the porch, and because I was spacing out and looking down, it created a persistent retinal image when I l...
- Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:27 am
- Forum: Family Members, Friends, Educators and the Cult Experience
- Topic: Trying to reason with my mother
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4045
Re: Trying to reason with my mother
first of all, Amrosen, welcome! If it were me, I'd be looking into all the places where these so-called "original" teachings came from and show her, suggesting there's an easier and cheaper way to go. second, I'd point out how every cataclysmic prediction by Lame-tha has failed to happen, ...
- Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:19 am
- Forum: Starting Your Recovery Process
- Topic: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10231
Re: about was/is Ramtha ever real:
I feel bad for your friend, Vanilla. I know how that feels. 26 years' worth. But freedom is a delicious thing, remind him of that!
woo-hoo!
woo-hoo!
- Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:37 pm
- Forum: Student Deaths. Suicide Prevention Resources Abuse at RSE.
- Topic: Maggie shot herself
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3927
Re: Joe Sumrall RSE student unsolved murder 1992
welcome Watcher, that was a powerful first post!
gave me chills.
gave me chills.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:23 am
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: The Serial Killers Analogy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11627
Re: The Serial Killers Analogy
yes. yes. Jingz, you rock!
you have clearly clicked the heels of your ruby slippers together thrice. My hat is off to you! go sistah
you have clearly clicked the heels of your ruby slippers together thrice. My hat is off to you! go sistah
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:51 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
I hope they come here and get the support they need, pull themselves out of the trap, and begin to live again.
A free mind is a beautiful thing.
A free mind is a beautiful thing.
- Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:15 am
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: Virginia in Nisqualley News
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7904
Re: Virginia in Nisqualley News
I'm desperately trying to think of a funny remark about JZR's balls of light.
Please, calling for an assist, need a little help here!
Please, calling for an assist, need a little help here!
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:02 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Is your guru the real deal?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4146
Re: Is your guru the real deal?
hmmm... maybe Lothar can manifest a special pod for me, equipped with whisky and a good deer rifle. I'd better draw a card right away...
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:29 pm
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: The Serial Killers Analogy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11627
Re: The Serial Killers Analogy
Thanks for understanding LiS, I appreciate your concern and sharing. I, too, have thought at first glance that recent attacks on the school were simply overcompensation, etc. and I have to agree that there is risk for psychic injury from that sort of swing. However, I have since found out the third ...
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:24 pm
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: The Serial Killers Analogy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11627
Re: The Serial Killers Analogy
yes, LiS, that's the pendulum swing I referred to. In another life I would have called it fanatacism, but I avoid RSE jargon when I can. I agree with the above premise- as do many experts- that completely discounting or vilifying one's own cult experience is to be avoided. It would simply be a self-...
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:15 pm
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: The Serial Killers Analogy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11627
Re: The Serial Killers Analogy
To take this point further, I believe it is not productive to stratify the RSE student population into classes of those who are happy and those who are not. Why? in my 26 years here, I have never seen a person become prosperous, happy, healthy and whole as a direct result of their practice of the &q...
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:53 pm
- Forum: How Did You Get Hooked Into RSE ?
- Topic: The Serial Killers Analogy
- Replies: 19
- Views: 11627
Re: The Serial Killers Analogy
ah, that nasty pendulum swing of compensatory distance. Point taken. I would consider RSE to be a kooky yet harmless thing if I could, but to back up from the :abstract: point and simply look squarely at results, the negative effects of RSE participation are undeniable. Were it simply a faulty belie...
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:20 pm
- Forum: Destructive Manipulative Sects/Cults/Corperations, Cult Leaders Other Than RSE/JZ Knight
- Topic: Is your guru the real deal?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4146
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:53 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
- Replies: 4
- Views: 6310
Re: satya sai baba--pseudo magician
Pete Townshend of the Who wrote "Baba O'Reilly" while he was a Sai Baba follower, if I remember correctly.
- Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:48 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
That's a great point Cheryl, and I'm happy my lovely wife really digs the freeze dried fruit! LOL Always have had a hard time keeping her out of it- ;-) to Ockham's point-- The doomsday 2012 issue is a biggie; Margaret Singer expressed concern in 1995 about doomsday cults and suicides around the mil...
- Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:38 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
I also heard he was chewing their asses in the name field because it was pouring down rain and they were unable to stop it!!
- Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:28 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
I'm told there was a teaching about this recently, and Ram was cussing up a storm and promising "retribution". Now that's a laugh. More hot air coming from the "Lord of the Wind". I'm coming up on two months since separation, about a month since I first logged on here. EMF has be...
- Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:37 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
I've spent the last several days going through all my food storage and setting up a rotation to eat it over time. I put "eat by" dates on each box/bucket, built a place to put the stuff where I can get to it, and have commenced a vermin war in my garage (got three fat rats so far). "I...
- Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:02 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
That reminds me, I have to go to the liquor store tomorrow. What goes best with intense solar radiation? I'm thinking something nice and light.
David, that made me laffmyass off, forwarded to my bus driver antichristian son... he will roar!
David, that made me laffmyass off, forwarded to my bus driver antichristian son... he will roar!
- Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:45 am
- Forum: RSE a Doomsday Cult
- Topic: Dec 21 2012
- Replies: 55
- Views: 26547
Re: Dec 21 2012
recently I've been reviewing the detailed journals I kept from '87-present. Every year the world was about to end, and I was in agony all the time about not being prepared enough. The programmed date for the end of days would pass, and the next set of doomsday predictions would begin... I can't beli...
- Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: From Ireland, very far away from Yelm, a student speaks
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7890
Re: From Ireland, very far away from Yelm, a student speaks
now THAT is messed up, David. bhhhhr
- Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:14 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: From Ireland, very far away from Yelm, a student speaks
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7890
Re: From Ireland, very far away from Yelm, a student speaks
Ask any woman who was forcibly intoxicated at an RSE event with compulsory wine toast after wine toast, passed out and then found herself pregnant a few weeks later if she was raped in a cultic ritual. this really happened? holy shit. I missed the whole wine ceremony/puking/snotslinging/verbal abus...
- Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:39 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
Having observed (for many years) the cast of characters who surround JZ, I'd say they fully deserve whatever happens to them.
After all, it's their "manifestation", right?
After all, it's their "manifestation", right?
- Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:41 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: "Scorned Woman" on front page of Nisqually Newspaper?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10386
Re: "Scorned Woman" on front page of Nisqually Newspaper?
Strategically, it was a very poor choice for JZK Inc to characterize V as a bitter jilted woman. Even stranger is how there have been blatant attempts by JZK to rally the current students around JZ's "victim" banner, because most of the current students I've talked to just roll their eyes ...
- Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:25 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
BTW, Vanilla, I think people like you and I are the most "dangerous" of all to RSE. There's nothing in my life that JZK can get a hook into or hurt me with, and a .45 on my hip if anybody decides to get more "intimate" with harassment. So I can't be harmed and I hope nobody tries...
- Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:53 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
Thank you Vanilla, I have read many of your posts since you joined the forum and admire your strength and insight. Yes, I did say in another thread that a year ago I would've called us victims and whiners on this board. I hope you don't think I believe that now! The Victim Excuse is the easy rationa...
- Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:04 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11/14
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11734
Re: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11
Oh yeah, I forgot... watching the school cry victim in court yesterday was interesting too. OOPS.
- Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:56 pm
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11/14
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11734
Re: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11
I don't know if it's enforceable, seems rather loosely written to me, but I'm no expert. In the long run, the bigger issue is that prospective students may be hesitant to sign such an agreement and the school's enrollment will simply evaporate through attrition. If students are subjected to such cra...
- Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:46 pm
- Forum: News Articles
- Topic: "Scorned Woman" on front page of Nisqually Newspaper?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10386
Re: "Scorned Woman" on front page of Nisqually Newspaper?
It would be the "pot calling the kettle black" for me to crack on MW for his poor fashion sense. :lol: From an organizational standpoint, his comments after the hearing revealed the fatal flaw at JZK- hubris with a perception of invulnerability. What they fail to realize is that their inte...
- Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:27 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
thanks for the hugs, people. Feeling better now. You know, I just finished watching the streamed courtroom scene today and some of the commentary afterwards, and it was kind of sad. We on this forum are being characterized as what? sour grapes, or doubters or victims. The judge called V disingenuous...
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:43 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
Holy moley, today I am incapacitated. I found myself unable to face the day today, collapsed inwardly, and returned to bed trying to work through severe feelings of anxiety and confusion. After an hour of hard inner work, I cut through into a more peaceful space for an hour or two, but now here we g...
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:44 am
- Forum: For those who hold a positive experience of RSE - You are welcome to post here.
- Topic: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
- Replies: 38
- Views: 21934
Re: Ramtha would leave I think it was 2000
maybe you should seek your knowledge elsewhere, dude.
after you get trashed, come on back and we'll be here for you.
after you get trashed, come on back and we'll be here for you.
- Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:26 am
- Forum: TV Interviews - Videos -Documentaries - Educate yourself
- Topic: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11/14
- Replies: 16
- Views: 11734
Re: Live stream of Court Hearing Cloverdale and JZ Knight 11
yeh, this should be a circus.
Go get 'em, V!
Go get 'em, V!
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:38 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
This sort of goes to that "what do I hang my hat on" thing, I didn't sense any insulting tone there CD. Maybe part of the attraction for this cult is the promise that, through our "specialness" we can somehow rise above the ignorant masses and have the life we so arrogantly think...
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:57 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
Thanks everyone for your comments and support. These last few weeks have been quite a roller coaster ride! There was a couple weeks spent mostly in my pajamas, reading thinking journaling... then a relaxed reentry into daily activities that support my short term goals, with some thoughts flirting wi...
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:00 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
Re: my story, today
The most ironic part that it was deep inrospection on the "Backstory" teaching that engaged the self-honesty that cut me loose!
I do hope this post helps others. Lots of lessons here, lots of dues.
I do hope this post helps others. Lots of lessons here, lots of dues.
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:13 am
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: Jzr threating paulvo's wife anyone remember this?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 13479
Re: do any of you remeber this?
you mean Pavel?
He married a GIRL?
whoa. Mind control
He married a GIRL?
whoa. Mind control
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:32 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
This thread has been such a warm reception, very welcoming.
Thanks to all and especially David and Joe Sz, and thanks everyone for the support.
I finally decided to write my story and put it into the leaving rse...aftermath forum.
Thanks to all and especially David and Joe Sz, and thanks everyone for the support.
I finally decided to write my story and put it into the leaving rse...aftermath forum.
- Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:24 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: my story, today
- Replies: 26
- Views: 17734
my story, today
My story, V 1.0 Every time I think about writing this I become dismayed, because every time it comes from a different perspective. After a few weeks of thrashing, I guess I’ll go ahead and write it out. “I have always been a genius”- my IQ has been tested twice; once I landed at 155, once at 160. I ...
- Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:10 pm
- Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
- Topic: Orbs - iust dust particles
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5961
Re: Orbs - iust dust particles
right rooster, absolutely. you can also see "orbs" if you turn your neck just so, which causes carotid compression and temporarily starves the brain of O2. The first sign of this is drifting spots of light in the field of vision, which is caused by optic nerve irritation secondary to the t...
- Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:54 am
- Forum: Pseudoscience & RSE
- Topic: Orbs - iust dust particles
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5961
Re: Orbs - iust dust particles
suddenly, with shitty digital cameras, orbs are a reality. And you can even get an app for your iphone to communicate with them. uh-huh :roll: well, I did see one many years ago, in the winter of '89. I was having a smoke on my friend's porch and a glowie golf-ball sized light came drifting in. It l...
- Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:31 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
yes, there has been some of that now that you mention it, the self-questioning and general feeling of ungrounded weirdness. A history of -shall we say- encounters with the unexpected has taken away fears of death etc but I keep getting this "what do I hang my hat on now?" sort of deal. The...
- Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:19 pm
- Forum: LAUGHTER: A HEALTHY PART OF MOVING ON
- Topic: I am Lothar, I am such as Ramtha
- Replies: 14
- Views: 11168
Re: I am Lothar, I am such as Ramtha
would love for the :hammer of God: "Lothar" to stop by my house and see if he can out-hammer a .45 ACP --lovingly and unconditionally administered of course.
I am after all, a seeker of truth.
I am after all, a seeker of truth.
- Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:01 pm
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Hooked by a celebrity
- Replies: 14
- Views: 12020
Re: Hooked by a celebrity
What keeps hitting home for me is that how I go about achieving something in my life is AT LEAST as important as the goal itself. Probably more so, speaking in terms of soul value. Achieving an end through the misuse of power and control, deceit via half-truths, through selfish manipulation of other...
- Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:48 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Hooked by a celebrity
- Replies: 14
- Views: 12020
Re: Hooked by a celebrity
It's a sweet tasting poison, awaken. We all wrestle with it. There's enough truth mixed in, pilfered from various sources, that the taste of crap is covered up. I haven't manifested any of the things I created, and yes, I blew and danced and passed out and went away, coming back to a body in seizure...
- Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:36 am
- Forum: Leaving RSE: The Aftermath
- Topic: Hooked by a celebrity
- Replies: 14
- Views: 12020
Re: Hooked by a celebrity
welcome, awaken. Thanks for sharing your story.
see ya on Dec 22!
see ya on Dec 22!
- Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: RSE's 2006 COP Document Registration Form
- Replies: 9
- Views: 9995
Re: RSE's Conditions of Participation Document Registration
3. "relaxed and dignified atmosphere"
<insert joke here>
<insert joke here>
- Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:16 pm
- Forum: Lawsuits & Court cases - JZK,Inc - latest lawsuit - RSE Music Copyright Infringments
- Topic: RSE's 2006 COP Document Registration Form
- Replies: 9
- Views: 9995
Re: RSE's Conditions of Participation Document Registration
laughing too hard, double posted
- Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:28 pm
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: My RSE exit story Cheryl - It is good to be free.
- Replies: 24
- Views: 23809
Re: My exit story
thank you Cheryl. Words escape me right now.
- Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: how C&E works
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6145
Re: how C&E works
I've had some concerns about that too lengthy periods of sitting in the triad, poor hydration, and endless cycles of power breaths, which increase intra abdominal pressures, add up to an increased risk of MI and CVA for those who are at risk, esp. if those folks have been convinced not to take meds,...
- Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Teachings, The Labyrinth, The Tank, Field Work, The Audiences, C&E, The Disciplines
- Topic: how C&E works
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6145
how C&E works
I plucked this from wikipedia, which I wouldn't call a bulletproof reference :-) ...but the assertions are true according to my professional training. the "focused breath", with breath hold/valsalva maneuver alternating with hyperventilation does produce results, and we used to think they ...
- Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:05 pm
- Forum: Your RSE Experience & What Red Flags Woke You Up Toward Leaving?
- Topic: In A Moment I Awoke from my slumber
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15914
Re: In A Moment I Awoke from my slumber
awesome story, Jingz.
I haven't quite found the headspace to write my own story yet but I will soon.
Hey, glad to see you got out with your skin! two thumbs up
I haven't quite found the headspace to write my own story yet but I will soon.
Hey, glad to see you got out with your skin! two thumbs up
- Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:39 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Now that everyone is googling Ramtha
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4154
Re: Now that everyone is googling Ramtha
wow, guess she created \THAT\ reality
where's the popcorn? can't wait to watch the karma unfold...
where's the popcorn? can't wait to watch the karma unfold...
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:39 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Now that everyone is googling Ramtha
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4154
Re: Now that everyone is googling Ramtha
ahh, yes, the "damage control" videos. A feeble attempt to regain credibility.
...there was also a very huffy entry in the RSE newsletter re: copyright infringement, etc.
Wow, this is the wrong town to cry victim in! JZR better walk the talk. If she can.
...there was also a very huffy entry in the RSE newsletter re: copyright infringement, etc.
Wow, this is the wrong town to cry victim in! JZR better walk the talk. If she can.
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:36 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
oops, double post.
hope I don't get OSTRACIZED
hope I don't get OSTRACIZED
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:33 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
thanks very much, seriously. I sense I have some restructuring to do, ahem. jk just my whole worldview~! fortunately, I'm mostly dealing with repercussions from my first go-round in RSE, in the 80's/90's, the way it tainted my coping for years after, and the return to R$E this year that opened my ey...
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:27 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
- Replies: 11
- Views: 8761
Re: Jz Knight and Groundhogs day
I saw the Le Grand chat, the groundhog day thing. Made me realize R$E is groundhog day too- *sleep too late or get up way too early to go walk in the rain, mumbling to oneself and trying to achieve dissociated states. *take some hokey "supplement of the month", then sit down to do some dis...
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:11 pm
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Re: Introduction
thanks Rooster.
Reading this forum has been very good.
(refreshing to escape the dogma of "nothing is good or bad" for a change)
EMF good good good. JZR, bad bad bad person.
pause...
OK, no lightning strike. Guess I'll breathe a sigh of relief now.
Reading this forum has been very good.
(refreshing to escape the dogma of "nothing is good or bad" for a change)
EMF good good good. JZR, bad bad bad person.
pause...
OK, no lightning strike. Guess I'll breathe a sigh of relief now.
- Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:02 am
- Forum: Pages 1 & 2 - General Chit Chat & Social Forums
- Topic: Introduction
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18102
Introduction
Hello everyone, I am Roy G Biv. Please, call me Roy. It has recently come to my attention that I have been successfully duped by a certain cultic belief system, and that it has caused damage to my life and happiness for the last 26 years. Imagine my surprise. I am new to this, but have been voraciou...