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Hi Patrice,
Welcome I'm so glad you found us!!! While it may take you a while to"shake off the fleas" as they say , when you do, a wonderful journey is ahead for you. I have sent you a PM. Let me know if you have any trouble opening it.

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Hello all, Quite often we receive requests from media interested in speaking with ex- members and current members. Should anyone wish to be put on a list for contacts please send me a PM and the best way to contact you. The following will be our protocol for forwarding media requests: I will contact...

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I agree,
The media demonization of anything that does not fir their narrative is really getting old and mucking up the whole conversation.

Don’t you think part of Dr. Sam’s reason for the video was her book in the background?? Have you read it??

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:shock: did you say nano???? I know, reading some of the scientific literature glazes ones eyes 10 times worse the some piece of gobbledygook- gook legislation. I’ll try to keep this understandable as I know it which isn’t much and should not be taken as gospel. About 20 years ago the first corona v...

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Well, first of all I am not "calling them out". That implies that I am challenging what was said. I was simply stating that from all I read throughout the site and some consensus from others that they have a right wing viewpoint and that when posting it might be a good idea to acknowlage t...

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Not so fast kemosabe..;-)The Spike Protein is a pathogen, and it is in the mRNA vaccines, this is a fact.. Actually, this is NOT a fact. it is simply a statement that is not born out by facts and we all should be careful when repeating what we might hear from others without doing our homework. I to...

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So the people who have been Vaccinated might shed a spike protin but not in amounts that would be significant. The story is really about Twitter. I don't Tweet. The reason I don't Tweet is that I will not use a platform that limits what you can say. First by limiting the amount of words, then as you...

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https://gnet-research.org/2021/02/17/od ... far-right/

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Thanks David, When it boils down to this so called pandemic I have no doubt at all about power and profit hidden behind a massive wall of deception,fear and censorship,trying to unwrap this is near on impossible on social media, but as the US marines say.." does it pass the sniff test"? I ...

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Here is just one example of Mainstream news that contradicts the MSN narrative. It goes to show what mainstream news really is. Unfortunately, many people only listen to news on television which is not equipted to go into deep detail about most stories. This story is about 9 months old, it deals wit...

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https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?abVariantId=0&campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210526&instance_id=31568&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=88312155&segment_id=59023&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2F976a5c68-e6f4-5a57-b358-f81a880906c...

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get your hat on! Here are just a couple of items that are in the current news and MSN at that. 1. Seems like the idea that the Covid virus came from either a lab leak or intentional bio warfare has gained some plausibility after a year of poo-pooing it. https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-calls-for-i...

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all this is made to make it sound like one is being poisoned. Nothing is mentioned that the amounts in the vaccine are measure in nanograms. Let me tell you that is so miniscule that as far as being poisoned it would have virtually no consequence. To put it in perspective, when one enters their car ...

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I have had the mRNA vaccine manufactured through Moderna. I will tell you more about my experiences after I lend some context to this whole lockdown,vax or no vax, government manipulation and additional questions we might want to ask and discuss: My figures are rounded and not necessarily exact: To ...

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Well, what the heck!!!! This covid section seems to have gotten views yet little or no responses. David and I have been in touch throughout the pandemic. We have had our varying views about how it has been handled by the varying governments around the world. Obviously, David has concerns about how t...

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that link to the video died, here is a new link.

A Virus Called Fear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VLHNpwju0

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THAT WAS HILARIOUS!! THANKS!

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In 2011, Knight stated (while at the RSE supposedly channeling Ramtha), "Fuck God’s chosen people! I think they have earned enough cash to have paid their way out of the goddamned gas chambers by now", and said that Mexican people "breed like rabbits" and are "poison,"...

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I might be a hammer looking for a nail, but I think its a bit weird that she misspelled her home town? especially since the a and e key are not next to or under each other. Just sayin"..........

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Hello all, I have had a couple of communications with Forever Fields that were instructive. If some of you have noticed, we have changed the main heading so that it no longer encourages debate about ones subjective experiences. This change in heading is the result of our discussion.Thank you Forever...

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Great oldie!! Remember when.... then about a decade later.......
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRyHDIcEhaw

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Face masks should not be worn by healthy individuals to protect themselves from acquiring respiratory infection because there is no evidence to suggest that face masks worn by healthy individuals are effective in preventing people from becoming ill. To say that there is "No evidence" is o...

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Obviously there is division on the way to address this pandemic. This article is fairly well balanced especially if you follow all the links to understand why many say their data is so unreliable. Just because their data is unreliable does not mean that they do not make some interesting points, only...

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Interesting topic. I do not find it strange that Steve brought it up in that way now. Especially since JZ has cloaked herself in patriotism recently with her embrace of Trump in the same way she cloaked her self in scientist garb through what the bleep and the Krippner study. The original wolf in sh...

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Just found it, still don't know if they were related though.

https://culteducation.com/group/908-est ... tives.html

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Hey David , was Kathleen May involved some how in the Prozac taking period? Did she have a husband or brother psychologist who was involved in a "Training" scandal with a federal agency? I think Gregory May? Also a RSE acolyte.

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I never heard that from my norse relatives when the told me myths..........

I thought it came from the neanderthals and it meant dinner is ready because of all the flys around the meat going in their eyes......

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Kevin gives an entertaining and impressive show of "Brain Magic". Kinda raises the question as to why pay loads of dough to be fooled and led into a fearful perspective when one can be entertained by side splitting deceptions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigYWy2UmOY

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good one X!
here is another, a bit easier to understand........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XHCM7t1fkc

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That was great!!!

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Hi Goodness,
Welcome back, glad to see you!

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make a great tee shirt!!!!

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Hi David and MaxP, This is an interesting discussion, because it gets to the heart of one of the issues that hooks one into a group such as RSE. Within all the smoke and mirrors, one tends to forget the basic relationship between correlation and causation. The group speak and world view encourages a...

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Hi Ockham,
Good to hear from you, it also might have had something to do with riots in Ramtha, Jordan. but still getting hits in the hundreds on and off.

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Might have something to do with working under fear....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrAX3Dl3 ... e=youtu.be

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DISCLOSURE:
THE FOLLOWING ARE SAMPLE FROM PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO CHANNEL ALIENS............ NOT!!!!
BUT GIGGLING IS OK.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoXFfWrK1t8

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HI, David and I would like to welcome all those new to EMF and to thank you for taking the time to view material on the site. We would also like to remind you to feel free to participate in the conversations to whatever degree you wish. We would appreciate your input. Additionally, last week there w...

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I thought this was already here but did not find it, always good guidelines to follow!!!! Swami Beyondananada's Ten Guidelines for Enlightenment 1. Be a FUNdamentalist -- ensure that the Fun always comes before the Mental. Realize that life is a situation comedy that will never be cancelled. A laugh...

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I will answer your Q's publicly when the time is right! In short: I have answers.

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My personal inclination would be to go after RSE on environmental issues. There is a creek that runs through Judy Knight’s property and there might be ways to go after RSE on watershed and other environmental concerns on the property. The problem though it again an issue of who has the deep pockets...

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Another possible explanation is that Judy Knight’s whole DNA story is a fabrication put together by somebody who knows some, but not a lot of, genetics. Hi Okham! Great to see you out and about!!! I think you may have hit it on the head. Looking at it realistically, JZ is nothing more then a storyt...

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Back atcha!!

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I thought you knew about this guy, he was a cartoonist had a series named "doonsbury" I'm pretty sure the "Hunk-Ra " Character comes from that, it was a spook on JZK.

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A Little less then two weeks ago, cult leader Anne Hamilton Byrne passed away. She was the leader of the infamous group "The Family" originating in Australia in the 60's. She had been suffering from dementia for the last 12 years. She was extremely influential and could very well have been...

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Yes David, I agree also, when something has been shattered it can be an incredibly daunting project to get back together. I know this from working in restoration. Often I would be brought an item and asked if I could reassemble it from the sum of its many broken parts. I can never give an estimate a...

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Those are a couple of good examples of media facilitating myth and stereotype.

I was speaking of the over dramatization of the character in the 1931 film. If you whatch, some of his movements when walking and strutting look faintly familiar...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RpHifTLgIU

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and learning just 'who' is pulling our strings is essential if we are to free ourselves from these puppeteer sociopaths hidden in plane sight... Then to cut each string gently and progressively...is essential to survive the fallout.. The efficacy in methods of persuasion we have been discussing are...

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Another very entertaining video from Derren Brown, thanks David. One should however keep in mind (no pun intended) that first and foremost Derren is an entertainer. He uses a myriad of other methods in addition to "NLP" which in itself is quite controversial as to how the process is actual...

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Hi Fighter and welcome!! I have interacted with several from the QAnon movement and I may have already with you. I am glad you have found some of the material on EMF useful. The whole situation in itself has shed some light on the way these types of things are initiated, sustained and some of the da...

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This is a really funny video produced by a Q-anon activist wanting to draw attention to JZK"S attempt at co-opting their movement.

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/05/30/r ... eonrevolt/

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That was a great laugh for the day. A very interesting perspective!!!

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Well, it was a bit hard to believe....... I am afraid it is all spoof and tongue in cheek :oops: :oops: :oops: :roll: Todays news......http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/06/14/i-just-said-fuck-it-lets-start-a-massive-bloody-war/ http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/06/14/i-just-said-fuck-it-lets...

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'I found out a long time ago that everything can be proven with a mathematical equation. Now, I mean everything; from unicorns, fire-breathing dragons, God and even the G-spot. None of it is true. Me and the handful that know the truth have been riding the Quantum Physicist celebrity wave for quite...

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REPORT FROM THE COURTHOUSE DAY 20, OF THE NXVIM TRIAL JUNE 7TH, 2019 Please forgive any typos or if I switched tenses sometimes. It is all I can do to try and get these out in a timely basis, as it is it looks like I will be one day behind the action, but being as the importance of this case I felt ...

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What ones similar to JZ do is use material from other historical "teachings" and either change the names, but in this case it is never to protect the innocent, it is to protect the guilty from being found out to be an impostor. The concept of Ascension: The concept of Universal Mind: The c...

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The big guy probably has on “Depends” 😂😬😎, she could use a catheter. If it an illusion, it could be a double walled glass so it looks full but really is not, or it gets diverted to the glass somewhere else if the table has a table cloth that goes below the table. Lots of different ways to produce th...

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Great one David!! As an amateur, amateur magician, I really appreciate the art and science of Magic. I have always said, joining a group who uses systemic manipulation of influence and persuasion (for profit) is very much akin to seeing a magic show. The difference is, when you go to see the magic s...

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REPORT FROM THE COURTHOUSE, DAY19 NXVIM TRIAL The day started out with the Judge leading a respectful moment of silence for those who gave their lives on D-Day. The female FBI witness continued with her testimony, testifying to and identifying from emailed photos the room in which the branding took ...

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Well, since I’m currently in NYC and made the time, I traveled down to the Federal Courthouse in Brooklyn this morning to sit in on the proceedings in the NXVIM trial currently in its 18th day. The Courthouse in itself is an experience. A portion of it built in the early 60’s is attached to a newer ...

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Well, the human body can only perform work of about 9 x 10^3 KJoules (which is why the standard daily intake of food energy)...so we’d need 10 trillion times that work! (Please let me know if you see any flaws...I know it’s a nonsense scenario compared to the comments in the above link, but it even...

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WOW, Great articles Skill (David), And welcome to EMF!! Your input is well founded and well needed!! However, I have found that rather then levitating, R's method of teachings actually prove that through the power of the mind, it is possible to have ones thoughts create so much mass that the univers...

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https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/2019/05/22/ridgewood-nj-cult-nondisclosure-agreement-nullified-superior-court/3759635002/ "A nondisclosure agreement used by a Ridgewood church, described by some former members as cult-like, to allegedly block its followers from leaking secret bel...

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https://artvoice.com/2019/05/31/shadow-the-parallels-between-jz-knights-ramtha-and-keith-ranieres-nxivm-are-startling/ Shadow: The Parallels Between JZ Knight’s Ramtha and Keith Raniere’s Nxivm Are Startling May 31, 2019Artvoice By Shadow State It turns out that many of the same kind of people who ...

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Hi Xylophone!

How much is a 20 min session??

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Interesting read and some courageous people!

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... os-838750/

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“The total 180 of the teachings into total harshness makes no sense. Even if all teachings were plagiarized (and we know they were), in the beginning it was basic and positive. For at least 20 years it's been fear, conspiracy theories, aliens, negativity, and personal insults." My feeling is t...

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Xylophone, While I think it may have started prior to 2000, I agree that from her apparent physical changes especially in mood and aggressiveness that hormone treatment could be a contributory factor. One of my reasons for thinking this is over the years she has shown an affinity for an “ends justif...

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In a clever marketing move, JZ Knight (channeler of "Ramtha" and proprietor of "Ramtha's school of Enlightenment" [RSE]) has been lobbying and donating to the organization "Q-ANON". This was brought to my attention last week and I am still getting up to speed on "Q...

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Good point.

I wonder if you asked those how much they valued their time when they have worked diligently and overtime. That added on to the cost of events must be astounding.

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Yes, I also regret to seeing forever go. I was happy to see that a mutually acceptable framework was being hashed out and forevers willingness to participate in that. Forever, you have my contacts in the event you would like to continue our dialogue. One thing Forever, I would not have been able to ...

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Forever, If we are going to continue this conversation I need to have some ground rules, i.e. a framework within which it can be discussed. Otherwise, like I said, it is like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. In order to get the Jell-O on the wall it needs to be in a container first. I am not dictati...

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The RSE paradigm of thought reform and mind control blurs the interpretation of these three concepts and variably substitutes one another of these three for the others. Yes, this is true, it is necessary to develop some sort of framework within which to discuss these things otherwise it can become ...

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Forever, A couple of things. Again, I am not saying you are doing this in a deliberate or nefarious manner, You appear to have missed the word not, no offense intended. hence not an attack. You use often rhetorical questions. These are a device used to emphasize a point and not intended to encourage...

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I forgot, the pseudo science I was referring to is RSE misuse of quantum mechanics as they relate to classical physics. They lead one to the belief that what happens on the quantum scale happens on the scale of things ruled by classical physics, thus unifying the two.

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Forever, Thanks for your response. However, questions are healthy and i will respond. If you will notice though, I did not ask you any questions….. in you response you posed some to yourself and I am not sure where the others are directed. I can see you have had some very difficult experiences and I...

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There's a difference between blame and personal responsibility-self betrayal. Isn't a matter of blame. Self betrayal is when a person makes the choice to allow them self to be treated in a degrading way. For any reason. Cigarettes don't kill anyone. The choice to smoke them does. Self betrayal is w...

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"Some people go to RSE to get something they don't have. Others go to receive an explanation to understand what they have already experienced" I could not generalize what all the people go to RSE for, except perhaps since it could be called an outgrowth of the human potential movement peo...

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I meant that all the participants have the belief that they have, are learning to have, and are attempting to demonstrate that they have obtained some sort of paranormal ability and that they think that they are under conditions that are valid, so that the results they get cannot be questioned.

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SOunds like that is done to give the appearance of there not being any way to fake the results.

I know If I were going to test a group of psychics doing the same thing, I would definitely not allow them to handle the cards among themselves……JMHO

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SO then they are collected by someone and then they place them on the fence?

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Question about the cards, Who puts the cards on the fence??

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Hi Joe, I had heard of the book and story before but never got to it, I will on your recommendation. I Have often thought science and philosophy and mathematics to be inseparable, more so like rungs on a ladder, not the ladder itself sometimes you must transverse one in order to get to the other. On...

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Wow, What a roll forever. I must have missed the posting you are referring to regarding your experience,when you get a chance let me know. I can understand your questions even if I also understand that by their nature when boiled down to their essence many are the same questions that philosophers, s...

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Hi David, Joe,Ockham, & forever, I know it has been quite some time since I have posted, but I have been following along all during this time. This new wrinkle in the JZ/R fabric seems to be just another attempt at her slight of hand…"look at this while I relieve you of your wallet". F...

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Hi Jeff, Great interview, thanks! When I had first seen WTB and saw David Alpert, I contacted him because i had read some of his works and in no way did it ever seem to gel with the WTB ideology. He was one unhappy camper at how they spliced his remarks together to make it appear that he supported t...

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What must she do to repent?? For starters, hold a press conference admit her bad behavior, get on every morning talk show and make the media rounds from the circus that will begin, and then book lecture tours on how she came to "see the light".... it works for the politicians, why not her?...

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Thanks to the moderators for fixing the link!!!

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Hi Joe.
good to see ya!

That is a great book. Particularly liked the turkey explaination!! Dont want to be a turkey!!!

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Bonjour Robair! Great article! Any idea what a full page ad costs?? Just wondering what she/he/it thinks the valuse of the propaganda is. If you go into any place that sels the lottery, they have a list of past winners up. JZ has still not stopped being a promoter. ever since her cable tv days. She ...

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Hi Cedar, Thank you for your comments. I agree completely. The MLK speech held immense importance at the time, as well as now. It did not demean having ones right to keep quiet. It impressed that at certain times in history, when led by propaganda leading to indoctrination of certain beliefs one has...

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I didn't know exactly where to put this moderators, so please place it where ever you feel it is appropriate. Today is the 45th anniversary of the assasination of Dr. Martin Luther King. He was a true leader, warrior, and was felled at the age of 39. Within that time, he never went to a mystery scho...

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What Judith is doing is completely dreadful and I don't take kindly to her behavior!! She has no right to impose in my personal life and what I do online or anything else. I paid for her services emphasis mine) - and like everything else in life, if the services is bad, you move on!! Something pope...

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I guess the saying you don't mess with mother nature...(or her children).... is true! I've got your back NG.

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I so second that motion Free,

So well said!!! Somethings are so obvious they get over looked. thanks for bringing attention to it!

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Hi Newshoes, Welcome! (I like your nic by the way) Your honest and courageous post hit home for me. After my experience with Bodhananda (see; http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=115I ) I felt the same anxiety and panic when calling the house my daughter was in, it increased gr...

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Yes Sunshine and David, This is indeed a very fundamental and healthy topic for discussion. While it may get uncomfortable at times, it should never serve to be detrimental. Universal love, the desire to make the world a better place, to make ones self a better person, to be able to deal with unplea...

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Interesting point brought up by a poster

http://olyblog.net/ridiculous-ad-Ramtha-olympian

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If anyone has any paperwork on their omega involvement, I may have a way in which youo might get some restitution. Pm me and I will get back to you.

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FMS, I understand your feelings. Once conned, every instance of seeing it happen to others brings to the surface justifiable feelings. JZ's methods are so typical of mediums, faith healers, con artists, financial scammers etc.... Simply, she and they all exploit human nature. In a way it is a spirit...

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Well, well, As some of you know there is no love lost between myself and Mr. Simmons. David you may be correct, or, perhaps it might have been a situation where he was put in a position of "support me or you are out on your -ss!" and they came to a negotiated resignation. In any case, I gu...

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Hi Freenow, I agree with david about posting conspiracy links on the site. I do however think that the idea that RSE or any other similar type group might be used for fuel for other fires is not too far fetched. I also think however that the idea of thinking to ones self that they may have been part...

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LOL, Muffin top! "turn to your neighbor......"

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Hi SG,

I'm saddened to hear of your turn of events, but you are quite the scrapper and I am sure you will weather this storm as you have others. I am happy to hear you have some support also. Please know my thoughts are with you for a speedy and sucessful recovery.

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Hi Hey V, Welcome! I hear that you are "feeling" like an idiot, alien etc. However, try and remember that those are just how you are feeling. It doesn't make it you anymore then feeling like a God makes you one. It is ok to acknowledge that as long as you can acknowledge that feeling doesn...

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Jingz, I forgot to paste the link http://enlightenmefree.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=622 My daughter is doing great, thanks for asking, I have been following for all this for such a long time, as it evolves ithe case of the board and devolves and desolves as in the case of rse. I look forwar...

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Hi Jingz, Hi to all the rest of you too. I know it has been forever since I have posted, but while I have not posted for a while (long while) it does not mean I am uninterested or that I have not been keeping up by reading postings on the site. :oops: However, I continue to support and admire the ef...

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Illusionist, You have some good suggestions. I would think it would be a matter of public record the arrests for drunken driving. If one took the drunken driving numbers and correlated them with the wine ceremonies, it might show a substantial increase (or not) during those times. That would certain...

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What would be interesting to see and it might show just how much RSE students do contribute to the Yelm economy. Would be to compare last quarters figures to this current quarter. Last quarter the euro was at a high and has dropped and appears will continue for a while this quarter. It would be inte...

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Swami,

Happy new year to you. hope it is not to hot down under.

Have no fear, the ones who have the knowledge to build a well fitted boat will only miss it when they exercise their ability to choose to do so!

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Hi Sad Grandpa, Yes the shaving trick is very hard to detect especially because no one is actually looking for those types of markings. The way the people manipulate the deck in the video sure looks like they are using the light in some way. best would be if they just never held the deck! that usual...

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Which came first...Lenz's cult or JZR's? Or did they parallel each other because the leaders were drawing from similar sources and possibly stealing ideas/interpretations from eachother? Hi Unbound, I personally think it was more a sign of the times, you know, like when flat screen tvs came in, all...

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Great find David!

A lot of information in a small amount of time.

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Cat, We appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention. Your complaint will remain a part of our record of this firm's business practices. The fact that they retain a record of the complaint is an important on even if they are unable to act on it. At least there is a record that is developed ...

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ex,
What makes you think that one of Clint Eastwoods sons was a student of RSE? Don't you think e
Eastwood would be the first one to call for an investigation into his sons death?

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I understand where voidgate is coming from and would like to throw my 2 cents in. Not having attended, I cannot do anything else but give witness to the affects on myself and my family. Yes, it would be a long-shot, yes, probably it is beyond the statutes of limitations for most, yes, JZK uses the l...

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LWO,

LOL... No, but if I see one I'll let you know!

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David, Anglerfish Profile Their most distinctive feature, worn only by females, is a piece of dorsal spine that protrudes above their mouths like a fishing pole?hence their name. Tipped with a lure of luminous flesh this built-in rod baits prey close enough to be snatched. Their mouths are so big an...

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Hi unbound, My hat is off to you. I commend you on your time and effort put into your compilation. I am sure it will help many in seeking the truth about what spouts out of the big guy/gals Mouth. Congratulations!!! gazza, welcome, aew you sure it was not a typo and meant to read like this?: Ramtha?...

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Cat, Great book! A real eye opener to how easy it actually is to get over on someone. I guess we all in a way if we get fooled or conned might like to think the one that "got us" was particularly good in some way but it really seems that the methods are sort of basic. If I remember correct...

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Hi magee, Thanks for the post. To reiterate what old one has said, yes I was told by Greg Simmons and others teaching at the school at that time (well more the 2 years ago, more like 6-7) that there were a series of documented cases of "healings" as well as the knitting of broken bones wit...

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Hi ex, Just an intersting side note on gambling. I have been running an experiment the last few years. Whenever someone tells me they are going to Vegas, I tell them to play #27 on the roulette the first bet and if it doesn't come in to then play it again and all the corner #'s. Last week I had some...

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Cat, Even with all that, she doesn't seem to end up with egg on her face....... she does end up with her face on an egg though!! http://www.farm-to-finish.com/carved-eggs/jz_knight.htm (DEAD LINK-TOO BAD THIS ONE WAS A CLASSIC) Below is another link with a mention. https://moonflake.wordpress.com/20...

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Moderators, please feel free to move these posts to whereeverland. Just another interesting twinkie tid-bit

http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/twinkies.asp

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Hi David, Re the advertising...funny thing, I was with a friend the other day who collects comics. I opened one of them up and found an ad for "Twinkies" He wouldn't let me take it to scan it (condition issues) but I managed to find it on the net. Now of course, this could just be an insta...

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Cat,

I had spoken with both Krippner and Wickramasekera and seem to remember something about an auto on the property that caused the magnetic disturbance.

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UNBOUND said: In a post a few months ago..... ....I still have "in the know people" and have access to the internet for articles/papers on subjects I may wish to look up, but sometimes there is simply a need to sit with one's situation as it is rather than chasing after a remedy. Perhaps t...

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Wisewoman said: This is not a commercial marketing comment; but there is now a machine that makes water from the atmosphere. We could use some of these, not only for our area, but everywhere. Technology is a wonderful thing! I am curious as to what type of energy this machine uses and if you know th...

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Caterpillar, If I haven't before, let me say I have and continue to admire your public sharing of your journey, both in and out of RSE If you have not read the whole book "snapping" i would definitely include it on your reading list. I have not read the new addition but read the first one ...

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There is no good or bad?? This has always been a convenient lynchpin that JZ's teachings hinge on. Remove it and then the whole rest of the teachings have a reason to be examined. We all know what happens once that is seriously considered. Good and bad ( or good and evil) is an age old conflict in e...

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In the end it may not even be important whether our ideal/motive is altruistic or not...we might just be attracted to what "seems" right based on our habitual thought pattern; and that might just be based on the totality of mind rather than any one aspect. Our habitual thought pattern mig...

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Hi all I have been following the discussion and was wondering if all the speaking of consciousness and sub consciousness sounds a bit divisive. I has always appeared to me that in many groups one is revered over the other. They can begin to sound like two separate personalities when in fact they are...

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CAT, That makes me feel sick. You are right to go right to the "why would she...? Question. Obviously it is deliberate, thought out and conceived, created by her. For me it is unconscionable to subject the kids to this sort of behavior and infiltration of their thoughts. Imagine, they think the...

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Hi Joe, Yeah, Frederick. Somewhere I have a tape of his appearance on I believe the Jerry Springer show? I tried to google it to see if it was on youtube but got nothing. Freddy lived over the apartment I grew up in in Manhattan. It would be an interesting video to post because of the many parallels...

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why do we get conned? ? even when we think we?re so astute, so perceptive, so intuitive, so mature so whatever that we believe we can spot the con. ??. Ad60, There are a myriad of answers to the question you pose here, one of the answers I believe is the fact that we do have the ability to think we...

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Marie and AD60, I can relate to what you are speaking of in terms of a dis -ease which effects the one not in the group. One can be so focused on their loved one that they can be blinded in seeing what and how it all is effecting them-self. I can tell you for a fact that happened with me. I don't th...

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Hi Pete, Thanks for your response! You stated you were asking these questions to give me insight in what it was I was looking for, how were you planning to do that on a message board? Frankly, its meant to have conversation, share information, never to penetrate inside ones mind and build up a profi...

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Hi Pete, I was glad to see that your posting of going to the follow -up was just foolin' around. It saved me from writing the second half of a response I had been working on to try and understand your thought process in making your decision. For some of us, we put time and effort into our responses....

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Wait a minute,
When they say it is all in our heads.....they might be right!!!!!!!!!!

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/to ... -sex-ratio

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Damn!!!
What goes on, right beneath out feet!!!!!!

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I think the feeling would come first. in the womb subject to the symphony and rhythm of sounds from the mothers body, during this time I would think there would be no wonderment, just an experience of feelings. later in life that has profound effects on us as we listen to rhythmic drumming, running ...

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Whoa!!, Very cool, I don't know if it classifies as brainwashing, the worm might just be creating a I'm dying of thirst" message in the insect by either putting in , changing or in some other way altering the chemical necessary to do so.? but it does seem to be the way things work. Life is out ...

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Cali, If you want to try and get rid of that (it will more then likely fall away in its own time though) you might try a rearranging of the words, "it be so", "be so it" etc, that gives you control over the phrase then you currently have. What you speak of is not what I meant by ...

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Hi All, and, a hearty welcome to all those new posters bringing their perspectives to this forum! Just wanted to add a bit on the NLP subject. Sometimes it sounds to me (and I am an outsider having never gone to the ?school?) that possibly in ones search for the culprit in order to fabricate a vacci...

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ad60, You bring up an interesting topic re the use or misuse of NLP and hypnosis. I think an important thing to remember is there is much controversy with regard to both as to their efficacy and long term effects. The debate revolves around the active participation of the subjects even when it may a...

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Like Ramtha's material, a lot of it seemed to be resonating deep within me as truth Cerulean, Unfortunately, the fact that something "resonates" with us does not make it "the truth" this is a difficult concept to understand since when one feels something viscerally it is often d...

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And yeah, there is no polarity anymore in a certain frequencies of vibration

Pete, as far as I know a vibration is an oscillatory movement moving in opposing directions. if there is no more polarity, would it not cease to be a vibration?

What exactly is the certain frequency you are referring to?

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Hi Pete, I have been away and out of touch with the board for a while and have been reading your posts and your evolving interest in RSE. I have some questions and will try to keep them simple. What makes you feel/think you are capable of determining within a 90% probability that there is an entity ...

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Hi Blueheeler, I hope you don't mind me chiming in here. I have a book you might find interesting, it is titled "Wings of illusion: the Origin, Nature and Future of Paranormal Belief" by John F. Schumaker He is a clinical psychologist who I believe is located in Australia. His theory (in a...

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Methinks there will more then likely be a plea for donations to fund the "expidition. They are probably makeing the rounds to sympathetic groups. Probably will sell it as an investment and promise returns on the films proceeds.

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Hey David,

Just wanted to pass this on. I get irritated sinuses from time to time from the dust etc. My mom suggested one time I try warm salty water applied with a nose dropper. It certainly eased the pressure for me. Good luck!!

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Hey David, Marjoe is a great example for x and current rse students. To my knowlage he is one of the few which come clean , clearly and explain the nuances of his trade. One should still be able to find his autobiography also titled "Marjoe. A fascinating read! Thanks for the post. I tried to g...

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Sad,

OUCH!!!!!!!
I wish you a new year which brings you closer to your family!!

Did I hear someone say Santa was bringing mushrooms this year!!!!!??

Best to all

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Bernie Madoff, Charlie Manson and the Big Dude. I don?t know if any of you have been following the Madoff scandal. I see there are many parallels to cultic involvement. It also shows just how ingrained in our society cultic behavior has become. Not only is the ?believe it and it will happen? become ...

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oops, I meant call of the wild. But gone with the wind was just so appropos.

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Wake up,

I'm pretty sure it is lifted from the author Jack London in his descriptions of the Arctic .

She probably felt justified because he also authored "Gone with the Wind"

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Truster,

"I feel the real ramtha is in no way connected with rse."

Yeah, you are correct.

In the same way that the tooth fairy is not connected to teeth.

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OD60, It is quite common for self proclaimed mystics and psychic charlatans to use listening devices as well as shills in the crowd to garner information to be used to thrill the masses. For myself the question is not Does she? It is why wouldn't she???? If you have not read it, you can get it on li...

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"t's just my feeling that JZ has a GREAT FEAR of TDTC (which she SHOULD) LOL & she, through Ramtha, instills HER own fears into RSE members. "

I agree, she seems to be a great projector of all her dreams as well as nightmares!

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Been reading a lot of posts and catching up. I have been busy tending to business and have not had much spare time. I just wanted to share a bit of something with regard to what might seem to some as "inappropriate" speech or thought. I have a feeling that being in a cult may bring out the...

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Swami,

If orbs are what we have been told then it simply removes any fear we may have of death it self.I do beleive there is something happening here and also dust,

Perhaps why the saying, "ashes to ashes, dust to dust"

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James claims about miraculous healings are basic nonsense. remember a full 30% of the population gets "cured' through placebo is a well known fact. The average of people who have had cancer in the US is about 8%. Spontaneous remission (Not needing to go to RSE) is approximately 5%. If Greg's nu...

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Swami, You seem to be jumping back and forth from a subjective point of view and then looking for objective viewpoints to determine if something is "fact or fiction" for you. Without knowing exactly what you are doing and what it is that you think is happening, it is very difficult to make...

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Swami, Just a PS. I would assume you had a close relationship with your father. It is a very normal part of the human experience to not want to let go of a loved one and continue to want to have contact. I am not denigrating your expression of this if that is indeed the case. I must say however, I d...

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Swami,
Have you been able to obtain any photos of orbs hidden behind things as david has mentioned??

perhaps when you are experimenting and see some of them appear, put an object in front of the camera to see if they are in back of it or not.

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Swami, Please look up and read on "confirmation bias" it is a world-wide psychological trait. It may explain more then I could. Here is an example: lets say, I wanted to influence you to believe anything I said (I don't). You relate what you just did and I send you to look up confirmation ...

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forgot to post the link at the bottom.

http://www.enlightenmefree.com/phpbb3/p ... .php?t=175

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Well what do you know...... They must have read my discussion with Steve with regard to the water right feud on his "Yelm Community Blog." posted in the spring. ( I know, it does not necessarily mean that is the way it happened, but I would like to think so). And so, Steve Kiein created th...

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The question to ask would be - How many different kinds of ideas can you think of? Hmmmm, lets see, how about channeling a 35,000 year old entity who ascended and became a God. Originality: Thinking of ideas that are unique and truly out of the box - Can you think of ideas that no one else has thou...

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In court documents and on the witnesses stand Harris said Jeffrey Knight suffered severe effects from a mental affliction called dissociative disorder during his five-year marriage to J.Z. Knight. He described the illness as a condition where ``the normal identity ... of an individual's personality...

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Good collection of articles, if one has the patience to read through them one will get an idea of how long and how much has been going on (that was told or reported on).

http://search.nwsource.com/search?from= ... pe=network

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Hi Tree, Thank you for your response. When I read this line a light went on. I would fully agree about the relationship part equivalent to that of having a relationship with ad addict. BUT, the difference I see is that once an ex student actually "sees" that the group is a cult, they would...

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In your time and counting, methinks it was 48 of your hours ago, you feasted on the juice from the container that comes from the entity you call chicken, you caused chaos with this liquid to form what you call scrambled, now that you have accomplished this, know you that I will do the same to your b...

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I have been thinking quite a bit about this as well as some other aspects of how I responded to my daughters involvement in RSE. I would appreciate some feedback from those who had communications with their family members while in RSE. In hindsight, I see having a loved one in a group such as RSE qu...

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So, if the big dude decides HE is not "into" doing readings (why isn't the student reading their OWN future ????), then does she give refunds for that ??? She doesn't give refunds for anything else, so it could be a new trend !!! According to the terms and conditions, lets say one of the ...

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Have a look at the terms and conditions..... Of course in typical RSE style, the terms and conditions can be changed at any time and it is the registrants responsibility to keep checking the web site to keep up with the changes, that won't matter though because it will be too late because you agreed...

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Geeez, Obviously, the coffers need to be filled during a down economy. Hmmmmm, I wonder, if JZ can schedule to channel at specific times, then perhaps "he" could show up at at any time dependant on her wishes. That would kind of eliminate that r is in control of when it shows up or not, no...

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Blindfold the elephant and then view the squished mouse and you see how the "effect" is altered.

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Hi Swami, I have not seen the photo yet, and I do not mean to take away anything of value from you by suggesting that what you see may not actually be what you think because your memories of your father are truly yours and if they become represented in other ways that simply is an expression of the ...

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Hi Swami, There is a great book called VOODOO SCIENCE written by Robert Parks (A physicist) where he explains in quite an amusing and readable way how even scientists get fooled. It is a real eye opener. It also has a section about QM that explains how it is really not wacky it actually makes things...

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Wake-up, I have been getting tons of e-mail from "Bill Harris" or his computer generated version since I sent away for the holosync sample (research purposes). I am amazed at the claims and number of so called masters etc. Thank goodness I am not a workshop junkie, otherwise, I might have ...

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Hi Swami, There is underwater "dust" also. I would suggest this experiment to determine if dust is the culprit. Enclose a camera in a large enough box to eliminate the possibility of dust being close to the lens (I don't know how to do that but I am fairly certain someone could figure it o...

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Hi Swami, I have not been present for the "teachings" but am intimately familiar with many of them. The big one, the foundation on which all the others rest is "consciousness and energy creates reality" This is then translated to Use your consciousness to create reality, you do i...

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Hi Aussigirl, I don't have a link to any study, but orbs (the new age name) is a fairly common effect most often from dust and digital cameras. I can make them all the time in my woodshop, or perhaps they are the wood entities!! too bad I can't talk them into doing any sanding!!! LOL http://en.wikip...

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Hi Swami, I totally understand your reluctance to think that you have been brainwashed/mind controlled. In fact, your participation on this board would tend to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of that sort of control if in fact it were in place. While I do feel that there is the potential for ones th...

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Ordinary, I appreciate what you have said above. The perfect way to deal with it is for both to speak in their own language. Unfortunately when that happens, one side gets their buttons pushed through attempting to conceive a thought process which they have found to be unhelpful to them to say the l...

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Aussiegirl, "Can't he make a judgement as to whether he likes an orange or an apple to eat, this "fear" of using the word judgement is ludicrious, a judgement is defined in the dictionary as " the cognitive process of reaching a decision or drawing conclusions". Someone tell...

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humble, If you don't understand, then you are not enlightened, not focused, not aware, not living the teaching... and, of course, without the chance to sit with the teacher and question (exception, unless you pay $172,000 for a 1 hour session -- which still will probably stifle questioning ability)....

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Swami, By saying "Free Choice" no one has stopped me doing anything I wanted to do at the ranch other than "ram is about to come" lets get inside. No one has bullied or treated me wrong or done anything your explination may imply. I dont get mail or letters saying "Come back...

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Swami, I am not convinced it is what you all say . I don't think that we are attempting to convince you of anything. We are sharing our experiences. This brings up several questions though. Are you looking to be convinced? Are you aware of groups that you would consider cults? If you are, how do you...

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Swami,

My daughter is no longer in the school. We both spoke at the last LARSE meeting and you can view the video of this thru links on the site if you are interested. She also posts on this board and I am sure she would answer any questions you might have.

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Aussiegirl,

Hey guys I dont think anyone has told Swamibinton one very important fact - that RSE is a cult.

Come on, don't wrap your comments in so much fluff. LOL

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Hi Wake-up, 1) "How many of you agree?" - and getting people to raise their hands, nearly on automatic pilot all of these things go to an aspect of expanding ones capacity to be influenced by both the dynamic they produce as well as the behavior and follow thru actions which may follow. Th...

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Hi Swami, Actually, I may have been mistaken or have misinterpreted some results I had read some time ago. apparently there were some test done by Charles Tart where he found that some of his subjects WERE able to read numbers during out of body experiences. There is much controversy about his resea...

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[quote]The experiences i responded very well I thought as I actually was exploring and trying new things and was not afraid at all but some tell me they are (OBE) and this is after I learnt the knowledge,but before school I was petrofied. Before i learnt they were not beneficial as I thought I was w...

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Hi Swami, I have not been a student either, however, my daughter was for close to ten years. if you have not read the story of my initial acquaintance with RSE see http://www.enlightenmefree.com/phpbb3/phpBB-2.0.22/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=115 I have read and understood your comments with regard to th...

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...A bidding war quickly ensued between Capezio and an anonymous online bidder....

Now who might that have been??

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