Ramtha & the Biography of Judith Hampton Knight

[See&E]

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[Whatchamacallit]

See&E said, "SUPPLIES Red Wine, Goat Cheese, Bread, Sausages, Picnic Baskets, Barf Bags
Olives, Meats, and notepaper and writing utensil "


OMG ! This just tickled my funny bone. Doesn't everyone take notes when they're stinking drunk, puking their guts out (detoxifying and releasing their negativity, of course) ? Well, after all, with the handy dandy barf bags, you don't have to skip a beat !

I daresay I didn't see much note taking going on (though some people still did manage to), when a wine ceremony was well underway.

I remember the two fat women that sat sort of near me, that Ramtha told they would both be dead from obesity in 6 months. He stood there verbally ripping into them, and then went on to bellar about obesity. Neither of the women died. Nor did they lose their excess weight. Insane.

Just too much wine.

[AnotherDimension60]

A friend foun a significant number of discrepancies between JZ's biography and the Les Sinclair interview (included in the Honolulu Dialogue - the first video of ramtha (circa 1984-6?) (It's my understanding that this video, which radically increased the number of people attending 'ramtha' dialogues and intensives, was taken off the market.) The friend, with sincere innocence, wrote RSE inquiring re the differences in the story.... She was taken off the mailing list - that was the only response from RSE.

[Walk in the Park]

I remember the two fat women that sat sort of near me, that Ramtha told they would both be dead from obesity in 6 months. He stood there verbally ripping into them, and then went on to bellar about obesity.

Actually, one of them did die. I recently heard that it might have been suicide, but this cannot be confirmed.
The other woman (they were sisters) is still active in RSE.

[David McCarthy]

Walk in the Park,

Please PM me with the names of the sisters.

Thank you.

David

[Whatchamacallit]

Sorry to hear that one of them did die. I don't believe it was within six months, though. Ramtha's psychic prowess was "off". "He" also said that Pat (staff) was going to be dead or incapacitated to the point she would be a burden upon her family who would have to care for her - due to morbid obesity. As far as I know, she is still alive, too. That prediction was to occur within 12 months of it being stated ; it didn't happen during that time.

Kind of like the doom and gloom that is predicted and marketed - very unfortunate. It attracts and markets fear.

[Walk in the Park]

for some reason I am not able to send PMs.
One of the sisters names' is Annie. She is not the one that passed. Big Girl, from Texas. Her ex is very very talkative.
He used to (or still might) work at Costco. he is seen alot at the Red Wind Casino-for SURE he is going to predict roulette and the horses
I would recall the other name if someone mentioned it.

Also, JZ, as JZ offered Hobbit a gastric by-pass which she refused.
She is still living.

[Whatchamacallit]

When all folks register, they are all blocked from doing PM's. We restrict access for a while, before opening it up for them. Why ? Because we've had a history of negative issues to contend with, including spamming (including a plethora of unwanted porn), to contend with. It's one of the things we can do to make our lives easier.

It's very interesting that JZ is willing to pay for special things for certain people; such as offering the bypass surgery for P. I recall "Ram" talking in front of the entire audience about how ugly Grandmother was...then I learned that JZ paid $20,000 for her to have a facelift. Maybe it's just me, but I find that very sad, especially in light of the numbers of students who have FAR more serious issues than the degree of their outward physical beauty. Why not spend that $20,000 on medical care for students with cancer, etc. Well, you see where I'm going with the thought. On the one hand, she has every right to spend money as she chooses to. But on the other hand, why would someone even want to be that inconsistent and seemingly uncaring ? I don't get it. Probably never will.

How many times has the teacher said outward appearances are a No Thing ? So, therein is ONE hypocrisy.

[tree]

It was my understanding, in regards to Grandmother, that , if (and she DID) could do all the disciplines, she was NOT making herself younger.
Hence, JZ offering Grandmother a facelift, as if to tell the world:
I have magic number one who can do ALL of the disciplines.
But she cannot make herself look younger.
So I will PAY for that.

This is why I think current students still justify continuing on with the school.

If Grandmother can hit the target, if Master of Music and Master of the Cards can "see through the cards" (which is NOT a trademarked
discipline, btw), why not PAY for grandmother to look younger? because the rest of the crap that I teach does NOT work.

[Whatchamacallit]

She surely wasn't making herself younger. Another hypocrisy with that teaching is the incident with the clock that others may recall ? The believing students were told from the stage, that Grandmother had "reversed time", as was evidenced by a clock running backwards. Well, it seems to me that if that were the case, she would have gotten younger. Ramtha said that she had reversed time and it would continue that way. Just doesn't all add up. The message in that, is that either Ramtha's vision isn't so clear, or there's some other explanation. In either case, Ramtha proves to be limited. Not a slam, just an observation. It doesn't jive with what "he's" purported himself to be.

Seeing through the cards - that's nothing new, either, as you know. Duke University had folks working with Zener cards a LONG time ago; years and years. They would have the deck of cards, with symbols upon the flip side, and one would focus on them, to "guess" (intuit) what was on the opposite side. I had those cards when I was about 12 years old, along with my Ouija board. I actually did fairly well with them and have done fairly well with the regular deck of cards.

But I think, therein lies the danger. All of those "psychic" type of things we may do, are trappings. The students get hooked into those disciplines and they believe they are progressing. But, they aren't. They're still on the same side of the record album, just a few tracks over. The goal, complete enlightenment with all of its abilities, still eludes the students.