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most and perhaps all legal cases involving harmful "cults" will not allow use of the C word in a hearing or trial. here is a prime example:
Amish beard-cutting defendants in Ohio ask judge to ban references to cult or clan at trialWashington Post
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August 13 | Updated: Tuesday, August 14, 2012

CLEVELAND — Seven of the 16 people charged in beard- and hair-cutting attacks on fellow Amish in Ohio want any references to a cult or renegade group banned from their upcoming trial.

The defendants asked a federal judge in Cleveland on Monday to prohibit such references as prejudicial. The prosecution will get a chance to respond before the judge rules.

They also want banned any references to a clan, schism, breakaway or splinter Amish group.

The defendants are charged with forcibly cutting the beards and hair of men and the hair of women, acts considered deeply offensive in Amish culture.

The defendants say the attacks were internal church disciplinary matters not involving anti-Amish bias. They have pleaded not guilty and rejected plea bargains that offered leniency.

The defendants asked a federal judge in Cleveland on Monday to prohibit such references as prejudicial. The prosecution will get a chance to respond before the judge rules.
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Thank you for the info Joe.
Ohio ask judge to ban references to cult or clan at trial
Perhaps he is a member of the ICSA? ;-)
While we are on the subject:
JZ Knight tried to sue the AARP for defamation for calling RSE a CULT, SHE LOST.
View EMF topic - JZ Knight loses defamation lawsuit against the AARP 1995
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Is RSE a 'Destructive Cult..Yes.
How so? For a wee clue, just look at its structure, deception and destruction upon innocent lives :idea:
A good article on this subject "The Definitional Ambiguity of Cult and ICSA's Mission" by Michael Langone:
David.
The majority of those persons who attach the “cult” label to these phenomena share a disapproval of the group or organization they label. That is why some people have dismissed the term “cult” as a meaningless epithet hurled at a group one doesn’t like. Although this position may appeal to one’s cynical side, it ignores the reality that many common concepts are fuzzy. Lists of diverse phenomena could also be drawn up for terms such as “child abuse,” “neurotic,” “right wing,” “left wing,” “learning disabled,” “sexy,” “ugly,” “beautiful,” etc. We don’t banish these fuzzy terms from our vocabularies because, contrary to the cynic’s claim, most people most of the time use these fuzzy terms with enough precision to be meaningful and understood by others.
"ICSA has chosen the latter course (On Using the Term Cult). We acknowledge the term’s ambiguity, but we also recognize that, for better or for worse, “cult” is the term that our inquirers, particularly on Internet searches, are most predisposed to use. Although we try to focus the meaning of the term, we must, nonetheless, also try to respond constructively to the wide spectrum of phenomena that our inquirers collectively associate with “cult,” however misguided their linguistic usage may sometimes be."


Langone, Michael: "The Definitional Ambiguity of Cult and ICSA's Mission"
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/aff ... .htm/quote]
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Former doomsday cult member settles lawsuit against cult leader Rocco Leo.
Fugitive cult leader Rocco Leo has settled a lawsuit with a former member who sued him over donations to the doomsday cult
According to her lawsuit the cult leader manipulated the woman into handing over her life savings by convincing her of the doomsday scenario.
She was told she would die a horrible death if she did not manage to escape Australia.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/26613/f ... ult-leader
__________________________________________________

Lawrence Wollersheim, winner of an 8.7 million dollar lawsuit against Scientology
How I healed the psychological injuries from my abuse in a cult -
Co-founder of http://www.factnet.org the oldest and largest Internet source of free information on cults and mind control. I am also the winner of an 8.7 million dollar lawsuit against Scientology
How I healed the psychological injuries from my abuse in a cult - Lawrence Wollersheim
How I healed the psychological injuries from my abuse in a cult
By Lawrence Wollersheim
I am the Co-founder of http://www.factnet.org the oldest and largest internet source of free information on cults and mind control. I am also the winner of an 8.7 million dollar lawsuit against Scientology --- that Scientology was forced to pay!
I have waited far to long to write and share this short statement of how I was healed of the greatest part of the damage the cult of Scientology did to me through their use of mind control.
To put things in perspective the psychological damage caused by Scientology is generally considered the worst and longest lasting of all cults. And, I did not just heal back up to where I was before I was abused by Scientology, the simple process below actually transformed my pain and loss into amazing strengths and character qualities that I could have never attained had I not done all 5 steps below.
If you are a cult abuse victim, the simple list below can be used as a checklist to see what might be missing from your healing program. Most of the information below is also equally applicable to all other forms of abuse and victimization.

Step 1: Learn what happened to you by reading the accounts of other similar victims.

Step 1a: If you are a victim of cult abuse, thoroughly learn about the psychological dynamics of how mind control works. This way you will be able to see more certainly and clearly how you were systematically deceived and victimized by a technology in the hands of the unscrupulous cult leaders or their middle management manipulated manipulators.

Step 2: Get therapy from a specialist in the area of abuse that you have suffered. Keep getting enough therapy until you are far more functional and the cult created irrational thought loops and induced phobias are no longer controlling the way you think about or see the world. (Therapy will go far faster and easier if you really don’t skimp on step 1 above.)

Step 3: Get real angry and sue your abuser. Anger over injustice is appropriate and useful if used as a temporary motivational scaffolding. More importantly when you sue the abuser you reverse the psychological victim/oppressor dynamics radically.

You are now the society sanctioned legal oppressor and they are the appropriate and legitimate victim of the social justice process. I cannot over-emphasize how much it will help your healing when you sue the oppressor even if you do not win!

When you see your oppressor on the stand in the court as a mere and often pathetic mortal with no magical or special spiritual powers, it does wonders to break more of the cult induce mindset out of you and restore to you once again your own power. Suing your oppressor also does much to teach others about their abuses through the pubic exposure you bring to them in the disinfecting light of the courts. Finally, suing them for legitimate abuse increases their costs for wrongdoing and begins to make them consider avoiding such wrongdoing which would cause more similar suits in the future.
Because it is not my practice to answer individual questions, shortly I will be publishing at http://www.factnet.org and emailing out to the various cult support organizations exactly what I believe were the most important things that I learned on exactly how to win a civil lawsuit against a cult (particularly Scientology) so you will also have the benefit of this hard won successful lawsuit experience when you sue your abuser and continue deepening your healing.

Step 4: If you were in a religious cult and the religious abuse and spiritual betrayal has taken you away form your spiritual journey and spiritual quest it is absolutely critical to re-begin your spiritual journey and your inner more meaningful life again. Deep spiritual betrayal is among the hardest of the betrayals to overcome, but when you do you will heal faster and deeper than on any other step of the process.

Step 5: Educate others on the cult and their abuses.
I co-founded FACTNet to do just that. Now there are many ways to help you do this on and off the internet.
That is it! Do these five steps with a passion and your will become stronger and better and healthier than you have ever been. Your experience will become so transformative it will border on transcendental.
I wish you the absolute best on your healing journey to wholeness and to your new abilities and strengths.
Sincerely,
Lawrence Wollersheim

PS Please pass this simple “how to heal” email or web page to everyone you know who you think could be benefited by this simple power formula for the healing of cult abuse.

http://www.factnet.org/node/654
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"Before I knew it, I was caught up. It's far easier than people think," she says.
Thus at the age of 58, Marshall left the east and moved to Washington to pursue her studies of Ramtha. It was a decision that cost her two years and approximately $30,000 in savings.
As Marshall's involvement increased, she became more and more concerned. The warnings of impending natural and economic disasters were extremely intense and included talk about a race of underground space aliens conspiring with the United States government and feeding on human beings.
Finally, Marshall's sons helped her make a break.
This sounds suspiciously like one of several interventions I did back in the 90s when adult children hired me talk to their parent out of Ramtha.
sad to see someone spend most of retirement savings on an end of the world scheme.....
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