disciplines

The 180 degree change in the teachings from the start of RSE until current times; in the corporation, the teachings and the teacher. Share your experiences.


hidesert
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I have always wondered about what happens to people after they acheive their card on the field. Per the teachings, if you find your card, you are in alignment with analogical mind and your desire and "poof", here comes your manifestion. So if so many are getting their card, are they actually manifesting their home, money or whatever is on their card? Didn't seem to be happening from what I could see. Same thing with getting to the void. How did that accomplishment enhance your life, manifestations, etc.
Although I have found some of the information helpful that I learned at RSE, the difficulty is that how much was BS? When tainted with Ego, you pretty much have to assume most is BS and then figure out for yourself (if that is the way you want to spend your energy) what may be helpful. You can't deny the tactics implemented at the school to encourage "group behavior" and spending of the all mighty dollar. I can see how the teachings have changed as well as how things are now being repeated and you basically go there to do your disciplines. I see people who claim to be a student there for 25 years, teaching beginners and failing at the discipline in the demonstration (that's where 25 years will get ya!).
I'm interested in hearing from other former students and what they have found helpful in the teachings.
What is everyone's thought on the master of the cards (i.e Henry Sugar)? Are these people making marks on their cards or actually seeing the shadows?
Signed, curiosity the cat
Walk in the Park
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seeing through cards ala Henry Sugar

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From a former students' viewpoint, "seeing through cards" seems to be the only "discipline" that has emerged as being valid.
I still see no magical byproducts of being able to see through the cards though.

Kenny and Debbie seem to think seeing future numbers can make for some good horse racing and roullette +EV gamblings.
(as a direct result, in their eyes, from being able to see through the cards).

I know over 30 people can now do this.

Anyone have a scientific explanation for this?

The other "discpilines" are just plain stupid, a huge waste of time and render nothing enlightening,
much less Fabulous Wealth (copyrighted :shock: )
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[quote]I know over 30 people can now do this.
were did you get this information from?
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most of the miracles are misspresented or staged.' like the meters went off the charts when i came in'[jzrs statement] later you learn that the messuring equipment was so sensitive that a pasing car could have be the desturbens in the field...seeing grandmother crawling through the fence and then a few month later it was stated she teleported on a later point in time convinced me that some of this succses is just staged. there are a bunch of mind boggeling cardtricks on you tube. i like deren browns . he allso uses other technics which he explains and put maybe not a sientific but a more real explanation on these 'phenomens'. in my opinion the dissciplins are mostly to put you in a state to be easily manipulated. yes there is some feeling of acomplishment for reaching a goal. it makes you feel so special. but finding the card dident change much. going into the rse jungel took me several years coming out of it too . in my opinion it wasent worth it its just a scam. the henry shugar story is also about the moral of using 'powers' and the responsebilety of the teacher. is this disscussed at rse?
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Kenny and Debbie seem to think seeing future numbers can make for some good horse racing and roullette +EV gamblings.
(as a direct result, in their eyes, from being able to see through the cards).

I know over 30 people can now do this.

Anyone have a scientific explanation for this?
:roll:
I'm from Missouri--show me--let me observe them doing it under real conditions
or
use a real scientist and a skilled magician to test the best of JZs minions, then come and tell me how they did.

Until then [yawn] ....no sense wasting words on this RSE possibility of harrypotterwizardschool magic... ;-)
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Hello Joe; I am with you,Thank for the article
Here is my respond to Freemymind Nov: 19/09 when he introduced all the RSE video the Masters of the cards.


Hello freemymind
Welcome
Here is my take
Until they take James Randi million dollars chalenge it do not mean much to me.
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If you let me use my cards, I can get 52 out of 52, 100% of the time. Using an unmarked deck, getting 8 or 10 right occasionally, is within the relm of probability. If you can see through somebody else's cards, fabulous wealth is as near as your friendly casino at the blackjack or poker tables. Do you know anyone who has made their fortune that way?

I understand that Judith's card readers use special decks of cards. Could it be that you can see through the when held up to a bright light, but not when you casually observe them?

Let the Randi challenge begin!
Down with Judith Hampton Knight!
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flying reindeer

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on another thread [scientific test of jz] I posted an example of the protocols that Randi and scientists would require to test a paranormal claim. This also includes the agreement of the psychic to the protocol, of course.

I heard Randi lecture once about this protocol. The example he used was the claim that reindeer can fly.
The obvious test for this would he said would be line up all the reindeers in the world on top of what was then the World Trade Center. One by one the scientist would throw them off and obsrve the results. Science cannot absolutely predict that the next reindeer can fly, so to be absolutely sure every one of the millions of reindeer would have to go over the edge of the WTC until one flew. It would only take one to fly to change the known science about flying reindeer.

A better way is to observe reindeer in nature and see if any fly. Over time one will realize that the probablity is extremely low that any will fly, so we can predict comfortably that reindeer do not fly under normal earth conditions.

Psychics are like claims of flying reindeer. Do we have to test every one to rule out real psychic powers?

I will let you decide if you want to waste all that time and money.
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I know over 30 people can now do this.
[quote] iam still wondering if this info comes straight from the rse stage. [/quote]
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ups the [quote]is the other one
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iam still wondering if this info comes straight from the rse stage.
this is from a current "teacher", who also sees through the cards.
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