RSE wants masters to buy 5 hour Energy shot drinks NOW

[Vanilla]

I got an email from the school, I am still on their email list.. they come as photos so I am not able to cut and paste and post any content of theirs, unless I post the whole photo.
I wish I can upload the photo, but I cannot here, on this forum, I can only give photo urls.
it was sent as an email so there is no URL.

It has a photo of 5 hour energy drink. With all the JZ Rose squiggly graphic designs..

It says its JZ's favorite and she goes on to say JZ DRINKs IT EVERYDAY...ITS JZ'S FAVORITE. Then it has quotes from Jz..IT HELPS ME DO AMAZING THINGS, she wrote, also..I use it daily instead of coffee, SMILE"

Isnt she just giving herself away by this? I am sure all the students will question this so much they will all see the light, that its all about making money and nothing spiritual at all about her.

Heck, anyone can waste their time reading metaphysical novels about ancient initiations then pretend to be a god and ramble about what they have read in a book.

When you click on the photo it gives you a link to this

http://store.ramtha.com/Store/item/5HOURENERGY


There is nothing spiritual about taking 5 hour energy to focus. Nothing. This does not help people's minds. Its a chemical drug drink. I bet if Ramtha told them all, they would all buy it, at wine ceremony-- all get addicted to it, and all do it and as well as drinking everyone would be real messed up. It would be the latest craze to "DROP THE VEILS"

Please guys tell me what you think of this?

I doubt this stuff is JZ favorite drink, and she drinks it everyday. Maybe it is. It is so processed, anti Ramtha rhetoric.....Ramtha says stay away from anything in a can..don't drink anything out of a bottle, only your well water..Maybe that is how she can "channel" for 17 hours.

I am going to show this to some students and see what they have to say about this.


I personally know students who used to drink them and all the students would gang up on them, and say it is poison..not for a master.. Lets see if they change their minds.

[Vanilla]

My friend who is in the school finally sees the light, She is a student, I showed this to her and she said to me,

"RSE also sells Coca Cola, jesus f---g Christ. Now this f---g junk ass food! I am telling you, we live in a commercial world that has also contaminated an ancient school of wisdom.

If JZ is as thisaddicted , can she be saved from death?"

Remember she is still a student. She still thinks its an ancient school of wisdom and that somehow the students are saved from death. But she saw right thru this one!

[ex]

if i argued with the commercialism of rse. i got often: that this is jz knight and not ramtha. im in school for ramtha not for jz knight it realy is difficult to get out of the trap. the indoctrination gives answers to counter most of the arguments. even if you convince someone they might get convinced from an other party back into line. dont you get this littel bottles at the gasolinstation? costco sells them too. the market for chanelers must be miserable.

[Ockham]

David Schlundt, PhD. of Vanderbilt University wrote paper in 2008 discussing the efficacy of Five Hour Energy Drink: http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2 ... Energy.htm To me, 5HED sounds not too bad for adults, but probaby a cup of coffee and a multi vitamin pill would do about the same. 5HED could be bad for kids because it has a high niacin content. There are also small amounts of various substances added as, "natural and artificial flavors," that are not precisely disclosed.

It would make morse sense for RSE's on-line store to concentate on selling spiritual-oriented material and leave 5HED to be peddled by grocery stores, gas stations and Amazon.com. It isn't like the stuff is exotic and difficult for students to obtain.

Why the fascination with augmenting our bodies and brains with chemicals? Personally, I keep pushing my brain, and it seems to always have more to give, never mind doping it up with wine, Twinkies, Prozak, or 5HED. These are addictions and just the things which we should let go. Reminds me of the scene where Mattie Matlin spills her pills all over the place in the Bleep movie. Hmmm.

[whatatrip]

You hit the nail on the head.... this all really sums it up, when you drink that much wine, mix it in with twinkies, 5 hour energy....etc.., you really are messing with body chemistry, brain chemistry, the whole bit. Burning out your adrenals, amping up for diabetes, heart conditions just to name a few. Yes when I saw that ad I realized "ahhhh, so THAT'S what inspired the 17 hour stint....makes perfect sense, knock a bottle of that back, add a bunch of wine, etc and it was like being on speed." I was once a heavy partier so I recall from those days how we would mix red bull and alcohol to go all night. Of course what follows is a nasty nasty nasty crash, which then can only be remedied by the same concoction all over again. It's like watching a rock star burn themselves out on chemistry. I do hope more students than not think straight and don't get too caught up in messing with their brain and body like this. Like I say....-what a trip!!

[Vanilla]

I have noticed Ramtha slur her words a bit. Not from alcohol. But it reminded me of those on drugs. It would make sense now. What a trip- you forgot the prozac in there.

I think the downside to her "channeling" all night on the 5 hour energy drinks is that it also makes you nutty. The Sunday event, it was like half sentences pulled out of the sky with all the keywords thrown in, but nothing made any sense if you actually listened. She would talk in half sentences. "The universe...and the mind..esoteric, one where you know you are god, forever, until....the signs come of an impending future, one where you will meet god....until then all you wise men, masters...burp..blah..." Is an example of her speech that night.

[Ockham]

What I find curious is why any Ramtha student would bother to order Five Hour Energy Drink from the RSE web site, and why RSE would go to the bother of having to deal with the bother of stocking it.

Perhaps the idea is that 5HED is being marketed to students outside the US where the stuff might not be so readily available.

Never mind that you could probably get the same kick from a cup of coffee and a vitamin pill. The TV commercial for 5HED shows some frazzled guy in pajamas who's too lazy to make coffee - swills down the 5HED, then then all the sudden he's in business clothes bounding out the door. Good for people looking for life's short-cuts.

[freemysoul]

Excellent point Vanilla, the shortcut. Isn't that just so JZ and RSE, a shortcut. A shortcut to fortune, and shortcut to love, a shortcut to basically anything you want if you 'do the work', so this fits right in with that mantra. I can't remember all the inconsistencies about food and vitamins and what goes into our 'temple', but they are literally too numerous to list. One day you are supposed to eat only organic, the next day twinkies are the elixir of the gods, one day you aren't ever supposed to eat in restaurants, the next day you are told that by loving and blessing your food, you have changed its molecular make up and can eat anything you love and bless. These things go on and on and on, for every teaching, there is an exact contradiction, for being told something is good for you, the next week you are told by JZ how bad it is for you. Two weeks from now, JZ will be bashing the student for being such idiots for drinking this crap, and telling everyone what the next craze will be. JZ Knight is just like the 'mean girl' in high school, god forbid anyone else have joy or love or happiness or fortune or beauty or anything more than her, or you will pay for it by being humiliated the next time JZ pretends shes 'ramtha'.