Australia Workshop with Ramtha

tree · Unread post by **tree** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:06 am

Australia Workshop with Ramtha
12/07/08

OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!

Aussiegirl: warning Will Rogers!

aussiegirl · Unread post by **aussiegirl** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:04 am

Ha ha ha - bring it on

Wakeup-Call · Unread post by **Wakeup-Call** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:37 am

LOL...

If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I would pay for the private session for Aussie Girl to take the private audience with Ramtha/JZ that's up for auction at that event. And send her in wired. And have David record it for the Internet.

ahhhh, that would great fun!

Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:55 am

I'm on... if aussiegirl is willing..
It should make interesting viewing...

Hey " Ramtha"...
why did you send a lightening bolt to my house?..

Chuckle...

The thing is this.
I have been respectfully requesting an interview with JZR.. these past three years now..

Perhaps....
an interview with the FBI, IRS, CPS and the WA Attorney Generals office would be more affective...!

David

aussiegirl · Unread post by **aussiegirl** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:48 pm

Maybe I should go to the workshop. Although I dont know how I would keep a straight face, if its anything like the videos I will end up asleep or laughing. I am not sure how my partner would react, whilst he keeps on saying he believes I am not sure he would actually like to see Ramtha through my eyes.

ordinarymind · Unread post by **ordinarymind** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:09 am

If you're up for it, aussiegirl, it might be a good idea for you to go .....it was a huge red flag for me when a good friend of mine signed up with me for a livestreaming event - we watched it together and I got a good opportunity to see the event through her eyes ...and I must admit to being embarrassed at some of the stuff jzr did, said .. .and also at the long, long introduction by James where he went on and on and on about how Kenny could cause the roulette wheel to stop at a predetermined number, showing video clips of it over and over ...anyway, watching my friends' obvious disgust at the whole thing was a powerful red flag for me ...much more so than anything she had said to me over the past 5 years about jzr or the teachings. I was able to ignore what she had said before because I "knew" I knew better .. she didn't have the full picture . .right, you know how it goes

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But I couldn't ignore how I felt when I sat there watching the livestreaming event with her and began to see what she must have been seeing . ..I was embarrassed, like I said . ..and ashamed even . . .I could feel myself wanting to apologize for R when he came in and greeted these unseen objects . .. I almost said to her that they were orbs he was greeting, we couldn't see them with our naked eyes, but he could. Those orbs were beings that R knew from another dimension . ..or maybe students who had passed on . ..I embarass myself even now just thinking of what I almost said to help her understand jzr's strange behavior!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts, and they may not apply in your situation .. .good luck and keep us posted!!
Ordinarymind

Whatchamacallit · Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:32 am

Aussie, you should go !

Gee, let's all make up a list of questions that you can ask jzR at the event (teasing...sort of).

There's the classic, "Ramtha, please tell me what I ate for breakfast this morning."

LOL

Or, "Hey, dude. Did you ever apologize to those students that you slugged during those events ?"

Or, "Why do you tell the students they should live based on KNOWINGNESS, when YOU'VE never proven your existence to them ? Isn't that a discrepancy, because it's clearly asking them to accept your claims based on FAITH ?"

Well, really, the response to that would be, "Aha, Master ! But what about all of those RUNNERS that I sent you!? Was that not from the Lord God of my Being ?"

To which you can reply, "PROVE IT. I personally think it was my Aunt Grizelda."

California Dreamin' · Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:45 pm

Aussie Girl -

I vote for you to attend. You can be a "fly on the wall." Your feedback after attending would be well-received and greatly anticipated.

aussiegirl · Unread post by **aussiegirl** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:27 am

The problem with the Australian workshop is that it is in another State and during the week. How motivated am I to take time off work (I am a consultant so that means money lost), spend money travelling to another state and find someone to look after the children for something I consider absolute rubbish. Its very difficult, I would love my partner to see Ramtha through my eyes, I also feel it could really generate some mixed emotions for him but the cost for me with consultancy fees lost and travel expenses will be around $3000, I don't think I am willing to spend that much money on Ramtha. Its interesting that RSE no longer travels around Australia but focuses on this one place in the middle of nowhere, I know that previously (around 3 years ago) RSE was holding events all around the country, mustn't be enough interest to do this anymore. And what's with the 3 days? - I dont want to give up 3 days of my life for this, I was hoping for a one evening lecture or something similar but it doesn't seem to exist here. If I asked my partner to pay for me to attend with him (although I dont think he would go to an introductory event anyway) he would know that absolutely I had an alterior motive, we have gone past the point where I could pretend I was actually interested in Ramtha, he knows I hold the whole organisation in utter contempt. However, I do feel as though I am letting everyone down if I dont go.

Marie · Unread post by **Marie** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:06 am

You're not letting ME down, AussieGirl!.... I vote no anyway.... I am with you, that it is a complete waste of time and money...The only two cents I'd spend on JZ Knight, are the ones that come with my opinions!

California Dreamin' · Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:36 am

Aussie Girl -

You are absolutely not letting everyone down. I now understand your circumstances a lot more completely. I didn't realize the extent of the logistics to get you there, and I also didn't know it was a three-day event.

It's good just to read your communications from all the way "down under."

Perhaps RSE now holds their Australia events "in the middle of nowhere" so that only "sincere" potential students attend.

Whatchamacallit · Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:03 am

Aussie, as I said, I was teasing you about going (sort of). It's really not worth the time/money unless perhaps, it could have an impact upon partner that he would be totally out the door on all levels. Is that likely ? Probably not, but who knows. He's "out" enough, anyway. Perhaps in time, he'll slowly realize more about the RSE scam. It would be funny to have you ask questions, though in reality, you wouldn't be allowed to do that, anyway. If you did, you'd be escorted out on your butt.

That's very interesting about how RSE is only holding events down under, only in one area now. Good. The next step would be no events there at all. It just figures that they'd limit the location so it keeps RSE overhead at its lowest, while others can go out of their way to attend an event there. That's what I'd make of it. It's easy to figure her out........ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ follow the money.

Wakeup-Call · Unread post by **Wakeup-Call** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:41 am

Hey Aussiegirl - just agreeing that you're not letting anyone down. IF MONEY WERE NO OBJECT, it would be fun to hear of your adventure since you are so quick.

Sometimes I think about going back to beginners (again, if money and time off were no object) to break up the programming people get. You know, half participate and ask questions of the new students (not of the teachers) to keep them thinking.

Whatchamacallit · Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:15 am

wakeup, you could go to a beginner's and distribute EMF cards ! LOL

jz can't sue emf for damages, cuz you can't get blood out of a stone. we didn't make any money; conversely, we've spent our own getting the msg out !

aussiegirl · Unread post by **aussiegirl** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:45 am

Thanks everyone - I would actually love to go, and if there was an introductory evening (which I think used to be held all over the country) then i would definitely be there. I think if my partner saw it through my eyes it would have an impact - the same way you think you look great in a bikini until you are on the beach next to everyone else and seeing yourself through other eyes! I cant imagine RSE are drumming up many new members in Australia through their method of approaching people, not many people would bother travelling somewhere (especially outside a major city) for 3 days for something they don't know anything about. Australia wouldn't be a focus anyway our population is too small and its too far and expensive for both RSE to travel to and members to travel back to Yelm on a regular basis.

Whatchamacallit · Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:52 pm

aussie said, "its too far and expensive for both RSE to travel to and members to travel back to Yelm on a regular basis."

i've met a number of families and singles from australia. one husband-wife couple did the traveling for a few years. they both had full time jobs and found it increasingly difficult to get time off of work to attend the highly touted yelm events. i don't remember why they didn't move here. i just remember the wife stopped coming and the husband continued for a while longer. then, one day, he told me he was leaving the school because him and his wife had sold a lot of their things to keep going for those years. the cost is sky high to come to the states from there (as you know). he got the hard lesson many others have gotten, too. our tenure in rse is conditional upon our ability to pay to get through the gates. PERIOD. we're all expendable, so we can go from being a "master" to a "villager" in one lacked payment.

i'm so thankful i was not ruined financially by that place. that's not to say that i don't wish i had all my money back, though. or deserve it. we all do.