The kids at RSE are often quite cruel to one another

Posters have cited (in our initial forum) instances of children being continually and repeatedly exposed to verbally abusive, vulgar language by "Ramtha", witnessing physical assault, hearing sexually explicit talks, etc. This forum is open for discussion and exchange of views.
Rooster
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The kids at RSE are often quite cruel to one another

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Hi seriously,
I just had to add this. I do not know your nieces age, but the kids at rse are often quite creul to one another. Especially if they are and out sider or new. They are also quite sexually explicit. They are not the nice little masters some think. The talks jzr presents does have a negative effect. I just had to add that. Some of the kids have a hard time with the others.
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Re: My RSE story

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Rampuss (tm)was telling a story about how I forget who, I think it was this Chinese lady who gave so much money to the school, how she was obsessed with working out so she can have an ass that can be f---ed, only to find the man she loved, had a one night stand with a fat woman. Do you remember that story anyone? How men are in the first seal. All of us. We are like all sinners. And how Rampuss (tm) is going to teach us to bring our energy out of our heads and make us Christs. I mean, people believed this as if it were real and only had themselves to blame if it didn't work. How sex is bad. How when this couple makes love, the man has sex with phantasms and ghosts..and Rampuss (tm) forced him to confess to his wife " I have sex with ghosts" and also about the girl Rampuss (tm) made stand on stage and tell the story of her child abuse in detail and all the men she slept with and how they orgasmed with noises. How she reads romance novels and masturbates and then goes and eats baloney. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Or the man who was obsessed with the secretary who had a blood stain on the back of her skirt. Yes very sexually explicit.
whatatrip
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Re: My RSE story

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Yes, one thing that always stood out for me, was how explicit Ram could be, it was a kind of talent, could have made a mark in the porno novel industry.... remarkable...

That is interesting Vanilla, I had heard about that story... I thought he did that back in the old days... not so much recently?? hmm....
Rooster
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This really deserves a whole thread under davids thread, on what children are subjected too. I can add my thoughts and they are not good. I experienced them myself. I just wanted seriously to be aware. To keep open connections. Seriously, they will not tell there parents. It is the open non subjective one a child can turn too. How can you tell a person in the school you are bullied or sexually harrassed, when you get focus! Create a better day or you are a victim?
Rooster
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I have been thinking alot about how to post this. I really said it all. I do not want to point out individuals. The children have their own little groups. They are much like the adults in not letting in outsides and proving your trust as the new kid. Some named by the (Ram), think they are specail. These kids think they know so much. They do know much! Too much for their age, as it is taught in the school. The children already have the knowledge from their past lives and should not be treated as children. Sorry... I do not think the child has yet the skills, brain or maturity to handle the very adult knowledge they are given. It is worse than being a public school. You have kids with knowledge of explicit sexual talks, most adults never heard of. Every thing is amplified. They make fun, ridicule like many kids do only worse. It has had a negative impact. They think they can have all they want at the other kids exspence.
I would actually love to see a study on this. The effects on the children in this cult. Who will learn and grow and who will become JZR, sociopath! I would imagine it worse with the school for kids. They know it all?? I had to do a lot of self realization. The low self esteem that really lingered underneath all the realization of reality. Entering the real world! Being loving and compassionate. Learned it is okay to compromise!
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Oh and I forgot the huge substance abuse. I like many others learned to smoke and drink at rse. I became and alcholic at and early age. I still smoke. I have battled that on and off for years. I had treatment for alcoholism. Many I know have not yet even entered treatment. Many other also have gotten into other drugs. The teens will not tell you, but much abuse to this day.
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I know I must be rambeling. I am just not done yet. This I hope you understand is so very hard for me to make public, to tell you all. It is very painful to have grown up like this. The expectations were too much! To be God!? What that does to you, when that is the expectation from you parents! No child or person should have to subject to that!
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Rooster, sometimes I think that the kids there are okay and really not being abused until I am reminded about the filth they have listened to over the years. I could never stand going to Ramster parties because the kids hadn't been fed and it would be 9 or 10 or 11 and the parents are drunk and the kids are running around, when they needed to be in bed and hadn't even been fed yet. More parents took the "everyone is God" thing to the point of the ridiculous where children had no rules or bedtime or structure. I do not raise my daughter with a ton of structure myself but all children need their rest to be healthy. All children need someone sober to look after them and make sure they are safe. Luckily my "mommy instinct" kept me from including my daughter in very much in or around RSE. I used to miss her so terribly when I attended an event but in my mind it was better for her to stay home and not be subjected to the craziness (and this is when I believed in ramtha). This reminds me of one particular follow-up event when I ached for my daughter. She was very young and I missed her so much and I just couldn't wait until the event was over. It was Sunday, the last day and I thought they were going to let us go right about then when we were called back inside. When we went back in the arena JZ on a microphone from her house went through every product in her catalog for JZ Rose for what seemed like an eternity. I was almost in tears. Had I not been so brainwashed I would have left. I was so upset that I missed my daughter and had to listen to this bimbos sales pitch. I was appalled. Now, I am glad that at least as far as my daughter I listened to my instincts and keep her out of that place for the most part.
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I am compelled to address this. In 2008 , I arrived to teach at the former Children's School of Excellence. I spent the first year teaching manners, etiquette and decency. The children never used the words , " thank you" or " I'm sorry". They were taught that Ramtha told them ' you never need to say you're sorry about anything" and if someone gives you a gift it is because they want to give it to you and you don't need to say thank you.
The children were cruel and mean to one another. I spent a lot of time undoing this as much as possible. There was an incident in particular, which I will not go into here, that had me close to being able to shut down the school, legally. I chose not to because that is not who I am or what I stand for. Needless to say, I am not involved in RSE or the new Phoenix Rising. The children at PRS lack manners, respect for self and one another. It is a shame , as a mother and educator to witness the neglect that goes on. Yes.... a real spiritual awakening... lol
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Virginia,
You are a good Mom. Rse is just not a place for children. There is a attitude among parents that the kids are okay . That is told by the teacher. This is where parents in the school need to take off their blinders. These are kids, they take in everything that is going on around them. They do not have super human abilities and control. They pick up from their role models, teachers, parents ect.

Thank you, Amanda for your input. The kids needed someone like you. A strong role model.

This is the childs ultimate role model at Rse!
1 JZ Knight-Ramtha Drunk 2011.jpg
Its like having Charlie Sheen, as a grade school/high school teacher. Today we will smoke, drink and learn about sex. Your a winner!
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Parents are so proud their Little kids talk to Ramtha everyday when they do their walk and Ramtha tells the children they were pharoahs in past lives. When they go to events the parents dress them up in costumes like medieval or like fairies with wings. Little kids go around telling other adult students who they were in past lives. How many they have had etc. RSE has a childrens books teaching how reality is created by angels who are too afraid to be humans they leave little bags of worlds in velvet purses.
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I remember as a teenager attending events with wine ceremonies. As I attended without a parent, I could not participate in the drinking, and sat in an area in front of the sound booth which was marked off in a large square with duct tape. I cannot remember precisely, but I believe that the rule was that anyone under the age of 16 OR without a parent or guardian at the event had to stay in the Sober Square (as I dubbed it). It was pretty much me (from age 16-20) and a bunch of 12-year-olds. Sometimes I felt like the babysitter. Anyway, a few observations from that experience (or rather, those many experiences):

First, I was always baffled by how "grown-ups" interpreted the teachings the next day. It was like they were at a completely different event from me. For the most part, the teaching would be pretty straightforward and coherent. The next-day interpretations were anything but. So whenever I would hear people talking about the latest "teaching" in Yelm, and I hadn't been at the event myself, I usually assumed that their story was inaccurate because they were drunk.

Second, I don't think JZ/Ram actually got drunk at a lot of those events. Oh, I know that there were definitely occasional incidences and I have seen evidence on YouTube as well as in that photograph above, but I wouldn't be surprised if the special wine brought in especially for Ram was filled with non-alcoholic wine. Take it from someone who attended those events sober.

Third, there are a LOT of skeezy older men at RSE, as I learned as a blonde young teenager.

Finally, (and this ties in more with this thread in general), how DID I take a lot of the "teachings" which placed fetishes and strange sexual behavior center stage? Well, I'll tell you that my number one reaction was, that adults are weird and I don't want to grow up and have those sorts of thoughts and behaviors. So that turned out to be a good thing. I learned, young, that even "masters" were prone to really bizarre fantasies and that basically I had to be careful or I'd turn out like them. Someone mentioned above the story of the woman who tried so hard to be thin and then her husband cheated on her with a fat woman. Though the details outlined above I don't precisely remember, I do remember the gist of that story and it stuck with me until this day. I'll tell you what. Every time a man has cheated on me, it has been a woman who is decidedly less attractive than me. Man, ain't it the truth. I suppose that's neither here nor there though :lol:

But you know, I started the school when I was 15, and probably about the right age to be able to process this kind of stuff. I cannot imagine or speak for the kids who were younger. Lots of kids in the "sober square" didn't really even pay attention to the event as far as I could tell. But surely some of them did...
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I remember the event Marjorie paid for all of the kids to attend a beginners event for a CSE fieldtrip. It was always a question in my mind, when JZ knew of this fact, why the ending wine ceremony was so sexual in nature. I remember she as Rambles had the children stand up, and seemingly for 30 minutes rambled around, weaving several stories together around sex, while having the children stand there! I was not drinking, so I remember it vividly and it always bothered me. Why, I would ask, would 'he' chose those words to address the kids at that moment? In all the important words of the universe, why that message? They were uncomfortable, many sat down, seeing that he was talking adult talk, but there were older kids in that sober square that stood the whole time. Ug! I am so sorry that I perpetuated the rambling teachings and allowed such a thing with out an outrage! All my entrenched brain could muster is questioning it silently and passing it on with 's/he knows better than I.' The pressure of growing up with the expectation of being god must be horrible. I am so sorry that I was a pawn for this hurtful queen. A child should be able to florish without judgement.
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