I've been so busy with "politics," I've not been here much of late. I usually just click on the "new posts since last visit," and a *ton* of new ones came up. Xindy's experience sounds so close to mine, that I feel maybe I can be of some assitance, if at all. I, too, lost *three* family members shortly after I left RSE which was right after my last event in early 2007. I also lost my beloved dog just two weeks later, who I thought I could help me "heal' from all of the losses, just by spending time out in nature. I felt betrayed by RSE, because what you see advertised is most definitely not what you get and my sense of spirituality, which I consider quite strong, was now entangled with jzrk's "injected" teachings. Re-reading what I'd previously known helped a good deal. I know that I must have retained some of my critical thinking, because I remember the last straw was having a fever, not wanting to be at the event anyway but wasn't certain I wanted to give up my "current" status, and I still went out onto the cold, muddy field to find my card. I initially had chills and felt awful. A very sweet young woman from Australia brought me some green tea and honey, and I'll never forget that kindness, since I couldn't even sit up straight when we first awakened in the am for the very cold gridding the sky, etc. My entire story is posted on the old board, and it's so long I just don't have the time to type it all here, but if it can help anyone, especially Xindy, my original post was under my frist screen name "guilt2guiltnomore"...which was a play on having come from a strict christian upbringing through my own "journeys" and exploration into the world outside of my own. RSE didn't open a mind, it cages it and leads one to feeling guilt. What was the difference I thought between that and my strict upbringing? I wasn't'going to pay for that...!
My husband is from another culture, and the beauty of his nature and his family, now mine, compelled me to learn more about the religions and philosophies of others in this world over the past 20 years. I was so sheltered living in this country and not having any idea of the rest of the world, particularly the eastern world which is vastly different from even Europe!...lol. I have other siblings, too, and probably the most helpful thing was no one saying anything to me about my RSE experience since it was definitely something I decided to leave on my own by ripping off my blinders and tossing them into the mud when I thought, what *am* I doing out here on this field with a fever? (of course, RSE staff tried to "explain it away as 'ramtha says a fever burns off karma!" Uh, sorry, but I'm a health pro and you'll not convince me of that, not even then! Add to that, the exploits of JZ as "ramthat".(punching and hitting people in the audience) combined with the contradictory behavior of some other students, and my eyes could see even with the blindfold on, that place wasn't at all what I wanted to be involved with. It was merely the "promise of learning more," such as healing, etc. But there really was no "learning" more unless one considers rolling up a piece of paper and calling it a "godscope" something new! (and paying for it, too).
On the other side, my husband and kids told me I was much more "relaxed" when I *was* doing the disciplines, such as C & E and the neighborhood walk!... My husband and one young adult daughter had both been to one of the shortened beginner's retreats, and they had their own experiences, too, but found the experiences were that they learned about themselves more than anything and a single beginner's retreat is just a "playful experience," imo, since it's been shortened so much. So *that* was truly something I found quite interesting - I left the place and here were family members with limited knowledge of RSE telling me to go back and *do* the disciplines. Yet all the time, I was actually dealing with three family members having passed on, along with my dog. So it goes both ways, sometimes....lol. I remember that period well..."I don't *want* to do that stuff, it brings back feelings I don't want to experience...".....lol. "But you were so much calmer and happier." Duh, I just lost three members of my family and my dog...I *have* to grieve and don't want to go out anywhere and party!"... So be careful here, because you all might be in grief without realizing it, and again, from my own experience, grief counseling is imperative with that kind of loss.
Another thing that might help is if your sister has other interests. I fell in love with another German Shepherd Dog, we brought him home with us, and I was actively involved in training him and spending time outdoors. I live near a beach, so that helped me, since I find water to be a calming effect, and had no trigger (wasn't like walking blindfolded into a stone-filled creek!)...for me. Plus, I was getting exercise while training my dog. This was the singlemost healing agent for me, along with looking for and reading the *real* books from which jzrk "borrowed" her teachings. If your sister still believes the jzrk teachings, I'd try and guide her to such books, since she might not have the same history I do with exposure to other religions and philosophies. This was my way of healing, and the recommended books listed here are also very good, in that respect, especially Vera Alder (sp) and the Upanishads (ancient hindu teachings). So maybe you can direct her to that link. Another thing, if possible, was I began traveling and having new experiences. Imo, that was very helpful - but I realize not everyone can do this.
If it helps, I was also in RSE for less than a year. But I find myself using words jzrk used simply because *she* has taken oft-used phrases and "assigned" them to her own vocabulary. Sometimes I'lll use a phrase in sarcasm <my> but since my family hasn't experienced RSE in it's true form, it's not a "trigger" for them. If for example, someone says, so be it! - does this always mean it's related to jzrk? Suppose it was a part of one's vocabulary prior to RSE? Maybe it's a trigger for people who have been there a long time, or maybe even for those who were students for a short time. I'm not convinced the words are always something that would demonstrate a person is under jzrk's influence. I think it depends on the individual. One would have to look at the individual person and their unique situation, in that case, and their prior vocabulary. Again, how articulate was your sister and how did she speak prior to RSE? ...this might help a bit. My husband and I joke around about the use of the word "manifest" - and how the RSE people used it. Although I do indeed feel for those still imprisoned in that place!
Another thing that might help, is was your sister thinking of quitting before she quit? I know that I, for some reason, just didn't want to go to my last event. But I went anyway. I now know I had misgivings, since the group I was in would make comments about certain things, example, people responding to the videos as though they were jzrk him/her/itself, and standing raising their bottled water!..lol. Then there was a time when white and blue hairnets were handed out to everyone to demonstrate the changing of the "neuronet." (shortspeak for "neurological network")...and I looked at Mike sitting near the stage wearing these two hairnets and just started laughing out loud, he looked so silly! But the most intense experience would, imo, be when "ramtha" aka jz, would make an appearance. How did your sister feel about that? Did she truly believe there was some ascended being working jz's body? My small group had our doubts. It's an individual thing, and imo, if your sister isn't immersed in discussing RSE, and please don't take this in any other manner, but perhaps you might be looking for something that isn't there? Just something to consider, unless your sister is still walking up and down the street wearking a cloak and proclaiming aloud, "for as long as I can remember".... actually, it's not funny, but that *could* be a sign!
It took some time for *me* to find my true "spirituality" again, and this time with a more discerning eye of anything that has the "lean" of a "conspiracy theory." For example, people are pushing the movie "Zeitgeist" along with other RSE related doomsday scenarios, especially since the huge financial tumble we've seen! So I tend to view these things with a very discerning eye, not even believing when my close friends or family who have never bee involved with RSE bring it to my attention. It's certainly not anything *I'm* going to "manifest."... (we'll leave that to jzrk so she can "manifest" even more "doubt")
"I never really understood religion - it just seemed a good excuse to give" - Ten Years After circa 1972