The EnlightenMeFree (EMF) Online Debate Forum

Robair

Hello Filicitas
Welcome to our site, Glad to see you
you are not intruding any where,I do not know exactely Vanda story,but story like this one are, common at RSE.
Please feel free to write about your experience in RSE and about you Mother that still in the School.
Oldone

Robair

Good Morning The last time I was in Yelm I spoke with couple of old timers Ramsters and they were very upsept about the new Ramsters getting promoted to their level,they were telling me that they had spent lot of money along the years to get that privilege and really PO at JZ for doing so,I will gue...

Robair

LOL
Kevin Trudeau.
he come up with a new scam every week.
He has been around for a longtime and he still get people to believe in him.

Robair

Hello Joe; I am with you,Thank for the article
Here is my respond to Freemymind Nov: 19/09 when he introduced all the RSE video the Masters of the cards.

Hello freemymind
Welcome
Here is my take
Until they take James Randi million dollars chalenge it do not mean much to me.
Oldone

Robair

Hello
Anything would be better than what we got now in Washington.
Oldone

Robair

Hello G2G
Very well put,I have stopped watching all reports on Haiti,just too hard on me,but the way you discribed it, maybe I should look at it and learn things we never learned at RSE or, and no one will ever learn.
Greg;what a charlatant you are .
Thank you G2G
Oldone

Robair

Hello
Good article Joe.
Maybe JZ will see something in it also ,and will send Dr Greg to help.
Oldone

Robair

Hello again Free Thank you so much for your reply. WOW thank you for sharing your experience you had with Sir Robert. You have kind open a door for me to walk in about a subject that we have not talk much on the site, and that is The Match Making that is going on at the ranch that JZ as Ramtha has b...

Robair

Hello Free Welcome to our board,I am very happy to hear that you made out of there,and now working on rebuilding you life,Having a close experience with Robert can be an eye openning,and Yes I know him well,,he is not a Sir no more then Greg is a doctor,I have said it before the two of them know tha...

Robair

Hello Freemymind Thank you Unbound for beautiful and very well written respond to FreeMM questions and requests.You are awesome.My post will look pretty simplistic in comparasion more like a Red neck point of view, I was not going to post it but what the heck might as well. My self use to think that...

Robair

Hello freemymind
Welcome
Here is my take
Until they take James Randi million dollars chalenge it do not mean much to me.
Oldone

Robair

Hello guys I my self do not pay too much attention to NDE,I do think that there is some kind of transition Between life and death,but that all it is, this action as been discribe by so many so defferent ways that it come down to one own experience. My understanding of dying is when you are dead you ...

Robair

Hello Joe. Thank you for the info. Hey America You want Government Run Heath care there you go you have it,all I have to do now is to be part of a religous organisation,wait I am an exRamster is that qualified me,Kool I see you in my office soon,I got to go now brush up on my C&E and my hand tec...

Robair

Hello Gigi
Welcome to our site.
I seam to be a bit confused about you intention,can you tell us a bit about your research,I went to you website not really sure what is all about.
Thank you
Oldone

Robair

Hello OmAkad
Welcome to our forum

I was an Omakad also.
Thank you for the info I for one did not know that.
We are looking forward to hear more about you

Oldone

Robair

Hello guys Carterpillar put a post on JZ many dates. I was copying the 1985 tape from Hawaii, a few months ago and in the interview at the begenning of the tape with Lee somebody she mentioned that Ramtha came to visit her for the first time in 1978,and that her husband saw him also, in her book and...

Robair

Hello everyone
I was reading this article ,about the Mayan and 2012.
It look like no one seam to have taken the time to asked THEM about all of this

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD9B8P09G0

Oldone

Robair

Hello Caterpillar

This is very very funny
you are the best
Oldone

Robair

Hello guys Hey Cat. It is not the first time JZR turned off all recording claming the someone could be listenning from the out side. In a special evening in early 1990,Scamtha come out and told the Master of music to shut down all recording and speakers,that he had something very important to tell u...

Robair

Hello Gazza Ramtha predictions the one we know he predicted never happened,and the other one are Like Nostradamus,we only know he had predicted them after something happened somewhere and Dr Greg tell us that RATTHA had predicted that I am sure he predicted something somewhere for the future but it ...

Robair

Hello Unbound Your are much more kind then me about Greg believing what happened to him.Do I think that ramsters are hallucinating,when come to those things sure I do. But not Greg,He know very well that JZ is faking and just palying the part.He has power and Money,he travel all over the world,and d...

Robair

Hello David everyone

Not only do I not pray,I have lost all faith in any kind of God.I don't think I am an Atheist as I still keep an open mind,but my critical thinking take over everytime I let my self slip back to any kind of thought about Gods,religions, or Spirituality.
Oldone

Robair

Hello guys That's it I am going back to the school, how can I not believe Greg, the fish story and now this, WOW. Nerver mind that he had to tell JZ before Ramtha acknowledge it. That story was from 2007,does he still use the airplaine when he goes to over sea for the school or he just levitate over...

Robair

Hello guys WOW who was that on that Video,Hair Moving flying all over the place,she could not seat strait I thought at one point that she was going to fall over,she keep moving touching brushing her hair,you can see that the upper lip is not working well,what a low class performance.Who put up those...

Robair

Hello Bts I am not going to comment on it as I am not all that familiar with his story,Other on this site will I am sure My self will tell you that the Series the Teaching from the Master from the far East was some of the most improtant books in the school and required reading for all Ramsters.Yes t...

Robair

Hello Cat
No she went to the ranch for a few,I did not keep up with her or do not know how long she went I said Hi to her in the arena she was kind suprise to see us there.
One of my Carpenter was kind of her boy friend for a while so he said,I can not be sure of that though.

Oldone

Robair

Hello Compassion. Terry was listening to JZ tape early 1985,if you look on the Yucca Valley retreat tape of 1985 you will see her walk with JZ an Anne Marie B. Trerry went to the school. I think the reason she moved to Yelm was to study JZ's style,they really never became friends,I think JZ knew wha...

Robair

Hello guys This is funny I just asked my wife if she remembered the with Powder,she reminded me that we had invested a Thousand dollards in this adventure,witch I had completely forgotten,hey well you know what they say about memory it is the second thing to go. Hey Caterpillar thank you. Oldone

Robair

Hello from Alaska the last Frontier.

And Ramtha did not know That.He know what going to happen in 2012 but don't even know what happening in his own backyard.
That Enlightement for you.
Hey Steve Planning an other run for Mayor

Oldone

Robair

Hello Everyone Hey well I leave Vegas (home ) and their come JZ,in disguise,visiting our fair City. :lol: CD I don't think JZ is that big of a star,no one in Vegas would know her,with all that plastic surgery she would blend right in. Maybe she went there to gamble,Wow now I am scare she might break...

Robair

Hello mcgee Hello mcgee Welcome to our board Just a few things from me, other will respond to you in more detail I am sure. You mentioned healing ,an proof of documentation,Can You supply us with some of them please. Journeythroughramthaland (JTRL) a poster on this board have asked Greg Simmons for ...

Robair

Hello Dove Thank you for your all of your post and the 9 red flags I for one get my resolve boosted every time I see that this site has help someone regaining their freedom an critical thinking from the grip of What Her Face. Like Glen said about is participation on the Video if it help one person i...

Robair

Hello Joe
Thank you for everything,I realy apreciate your point of view, and always amazed by your knowledge.
The skunk in my house

Oldone

Robair

Hello Katie Thank you I am sure that David will be trill to work with you,an hear everything you have to propose. after all we have the same goal. I am sure that He will get back to you ASAP.so you two can have a brainstorm an lead the way,I for one will be in the backgroud supporting all effort tor...

Robair

Hello Katie
Great to hear from you again.
Your Idea about,collaborative effort,would be in my opinion the next of evolution in our journey against,those disguised preditors.

Again great post.
Oldone

Robair

Hello nextsept
Good post
You seam to know lot of what would happen to student that might be thinking of getting after JZ with the Law.
We sure would like to know more about what you know,.
Would you care to share some of your knowledge or experiences with us
Oldone

Robair

Hello G2G
Funny

Also,he GS can gather all the diappers she used when she do the tank an sell that also.
I am better stop at that, don't wont the the sherif to get me.

Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat
WOW this is funny,this is real funny.
I did not known that ether,
Is the spot where What Her Face vomited sold for more money?
Frequency specific, Vomit Frequency,
You are funny

When I think nothing would suprise anymore something does

Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat
Great thank you for the info,for some reason I never saw that anywhere,I just presume that being the wife of a Dentist they would have lived in a nicer place.
Thank you
Oldone

Robair

Hello Q.G. This is an open forum but not open to every subject one might encounter in there life,it is for cult recovery there Family,an RSE in focus. Even though we do apreciate your input,we need to keep our board clean of Advertising of any kind. Please feel free to post but remember to keep them...

Robair

Hello little
It does not look to me that you are searching inward look like you are searching the Net.

Why are you here anyway?
Oldone

Robair

Hello Q.G The difference between me and you is that I chose to search inward where it sounds like many of you chose to search outward. You do not sean to known a whole about what we have been true in Ramtha's cult,just to let you known so that you do not make an other ingorant statement,it has been ...

Robair

Hello G2G
Funny

I wish! Would be an other good subject to pick at.
Oldone

Robair

Hello Jay
Arresting the Victim is not the solution,you should be going after JZ instead,or is she to big for you to tangle with
Oldone

Robair

Hello Havetothink

Thank you for your post,
I am going to have a great day today knowning that we have help you get over the dicth

.
You made my day.
Maybe later when you feel like it,you could share your story with us.
Thank you again.

Oldone

Robair

Hello Yes they do have somthing in common they both can not pick a good Face lifter :lol: don't get mad now. No no fan of MJ,here. don't care about him one way or the other,like JZ he was a great looking kid l like some of his songs from the 80s and yes the best dancer no one today have to come to t...

Robair

Hello Everyone It just hit me like a ton of brick while thinking about W.W.'s Weather post. About Global Warming an Earth Changes that has been happening the last few decades everyone think it is man made, my self now think that it is Ramsters Made,these manifesting Masters have been fooling around ...

Robair

Hello Sad Grand She did not have any choice,her face don't even look like before,I mean she is close to Micheal Jackson level of butchery face lift,I sais it before,she would make more money starting a lawsuit against the charlatant that did that to her then she is making with the school. My Two Cen...

Robair

Hello I have just finished to read one of your post where to talk about changing the weather on your trip to Colorado. With all do respect,your so call students were probabely not from Colorado I lived In Aspen for 14 Years an Everyone in Colorado will tell you that IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE WEA...

Robair

Hello Sad Grand

I would not call it a face lift,it is more like a complete remodel.

Oldone

Robair

Hello G2G

Maybe the CSE children can heal Judith's mind?

And if that does not work she can have Botox done on her brain ,and claim to be the first one to have done it.

Oldone

Robair

Hello Wisewoman Well you have been very busy the last few hour.we might have to move some of your into the proper tread will see. I am reading all your post while listening to an old tape of JZR from Hawaii 1984, while I am recording it on DVD. I will have to read them again,since I was listening wi...

Robair

Hello Thank you Joe, and me who thought HE was imitating JZ,WOW it is the other way around :lol: I was surprise when I Googled Lazaris to find out he was still around, the VHS I have was taped in a private house,I don't remember when an where I got it,(memory is the second thing to go you known) I g...

Robair

Hello Everyone While cleaning the garage of our old house (the renter need more room) we fond an forgotten box with old VHS tapes of What Her Face from 1985. Took them back here and I am in the process of copying them on a DVD. In that box I fond also a funny video From one of What Her Face competit...

Robair

Hello
What happened to Wisewoman.
Oldone

Robair

Hello Everyone Hello AD60 I will agree with you that the word Cult Has been Way over used to include lot of different group like religions, MLM, etc etc. Should we not use the word Cult at all to protect certain groups that have been unjustly included in that category i.e. religions. I like you thin...

Robair

Hello wise woman.

You came here to tell us that RSE is not a cult.
what is a cult according to YOUR understanding?
An also can you name a group that you would put into that Category?
Oldone

Robair

Hello Wisewoman.
For 26 years I have defended RSE against anyone that was attacking it.An now I am willing to dedicate the next 26 years to let every one known that RSE is a cult
Oldone

Robair

Hello Wisewoman
We do have two forum you can take your opinion, In Current student debate forum... or Is RSE is a cult.
We will see you there. for sure

Moderator

Robair

Hello Wisewoman I have move you post to a save place for now,As i am not sure what you point is. You seam to be in favor of sea water,I was not current in tne shool went this particular product came in exsistence,but in My own opinon anything that have Lye in it is out for me. One question Are you s...

Robair

Hello Caterpillar I think someone did contacted LK show in the past about her. Repeat of the show by popolar demand :lol: LK show do not have a very high rating to start with,I just think He has nothing else in the Can they do repeat a lot. I am not going to watch it again for sure I have seen enoug...

Robair

Hello
I just finished to watch the Video.
They Mention that Ramtha went to JZ Trailer park in Washington, if it is truth I did not known that,we all known that he appeared to her in Her Kitchen.
Was she really living in a Trailer Park at that time?

Oldone

Robair

David
This soooo funny,
Maybe JZ should consider renaming C&E
and call it C&G Consciousness and Gazzooing

Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat
Allo of your info about phycho & socio,an the link,was great I am learning at lot about all of that.

This is funny

Oldone

Robair

Hello
Yes California Dreamin I forgot about the book,why is she pushing that one?
For crying out loud Larry King look better the her.
Oldone

Robair

Hello I watched LK tonight,with What her face :lol: :lol: WOW :shock: Hey JZ You did not talk much tonight lot of competition One of the subject was about Mind over matter. WHERE WAS YOUR MIND JZ WHEN MATTER WAS HAPPENING TO YOUR FACE,Mind over Matter sure DID NOT work very well for you. think about...

Robair

Hello JZ faking Na she would never do that NA not our JZ :roll: :roll: hey JZ let me see the the 3 doctors reports saying that they did not known what was going on with you, I speak french I can translate them and if it is true I will help you prove to everyone that you did not fake it. I will even ...

Robair

Hello G2G I do wonder why LK doesn't question JZ on her ramtha exploits and UFO cult. Hey, hey, my, my. ;-) ;-) ;-) On any show everyone agree to a set of questions,and if the show host would not fallow those rules,he would be known by everyone that he can not be trusted,an evantualy would not be ab...

Robair

Bonjour Cat This is incredible that first she would get excited,and then tell,is that what they mean when they say Show an tell :lol: :lol: Hey Joe that not that far fetch for her to be on Jerry's show she look strange , got to be careful what I say or the new sherif will get me. ;-) Anyway will wat...

Robair

Hello again
Also with the two other guests on the show with her it should be very interesting to see witch one is going to dominate the conversation.I will watch it.

Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat
I posted about today also,today the Moderator deleted,since you had this one running.
What is it with the old fart King to keep having her on his show anyway?
No wonder his rating is falling.
Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat Thank you for all the info. On the video I am not really sure if that is real it sure look very strange to me Look like a bubble blowing machine to me. About the kids. Did anyone else ever requested healling from them.that can be verify but trusted sources. I don't think much of Greg S. me...

Robair

Hello guys
If I was not sick before now I really Am.
Hey JZ can we see the doctors reports the Two Osteophats,and the MD even if they are in french I can translate them,french being my native tongue I am sure I can do it

What a Joke she is
Oldone

Robair

Hello Cat What an Hypocrite she is,I did not known that she asked the kids to work on her. Like you I think the second reason you described was the real reason for her to do it,double whammy,get the kids thinking they are doing it and putting down the rest of the school,she is so transparent now tha...

Robair

Hello Cat

Lets just say you wouldn't ask a second question after his reply.

Be nice now and tell us what was the reply

Oldone

Robair

Hello Jay Welcome to EMF. Since you seam to have a good knowledge of the law,can you give us some background,did you mention that you have been to RSE, if so can you tell us some of your experiences. I think you have brought some Very good healthy points, and have giving some of us ( David Whatch,AD...

Robair

Caterpillar
This is funny,and very very good
Thank you

Oldone

Robair

Hello everyone Since Tree is the center of attention here,I would like to ask if anyone here knew her prior to this site,meaning during the time she was in the school,her Behavior,her relationship, all that stuff or would be unfair to bring that up,and judge her only by what she has posted here. My ...

Robair

Hello here we go. Good Morning Hey Well this morning while watching the Horizon project My PC froze and lost what was in the Minimize waiting to be posted. Do you guys think That is a sign for me to get prepare Again for TDTC??,and start working on my third UG this time in concrete, WOW WAIT, I am s...

Robair

Hello Compassion You are welcome. Very happy to hear that you are learning from all of us on this site,we also are learning, and learning from each other. One very interesting point about all of that for me is that I was not able to see in JZR what I was seeing in Terry. I was already hooked way bac...

Robair

Hello Well I did not mean to start any kind of argument about those two entity, who is right or wrong. What I known is that in 1985 Terry was listening the JZR tapes,tapes from early 1984,Did JZ listened to Terry tapes during that time, Would not surprise me at all if she did knowing what we known n...

Robair

Hello Whatch. Thank you for that link did not known what was happenning with her,but was pretty sure that she was up to her same old way. She a Great speaker. As far as I am concern she moved Washington to be close to the ranch to be able to study JZ in person,and to be close to few thousand potenti...

Robair

Hello Compassion So Be It, was and will always be use at RSE, it is the comfimation on everything that they do,most of the time it is use with the movement of the hand, that start by bringing your hand to you forhead with the So,move your hand straingt away from your for forhead at the sametime that...

Robair

Hello lol: :lol: your quote:I wonder if JZKnight did a 'copy-kat' from that period of time, too? By that I thought you met that JZ was copying Terry stuff. Terry was getting tapes from JZR during that period (1984-85 that I known of) ,and somehow some of it was ending up in her semon. Her Staff and ...

Robair

Hello
I known for a fact that in 1985 she had in her bedroom JZR tapes and was listening to them
My Two Cent

Oldone

Robair

Hello guys Terry Cole Whittaker :lol: :lol: :lol: I have funny storys about her, I was close to her for few months,back when she was a preacher around San Diego, in 1985-86 after she took over her husband ministery.last time I spoke to her was after she moved to Washington and jointed the school,she...

Robair

Hello Tree That was not questioning your personal experience with JZ at all, well all known that She can be very charming when she want to an does have the Habillity to make you belive that she care for you. During that time you might have thought that she LOVE, LIKE,or ADORE you or the garden peopl...

Robair

Hello

jz personally adored the garden people.

Sorry Tree but knowing what we know about JZ do you really think that she has the capability to Adored anyone but her self.

Oldone

Robair

Hello It is Great to hear from someone that have figured out on his/her own that RSE was a Scam. Like you I loved the old Ram I started to lisen to tapes summer 1980 ( I mentioned before 1981 but my wife corrected me after that I had written and sent that post) an went to my first dialog march of 82...

Robair

Hello cat

I think all staff past and present, have an attitube of superiority and all of them do have the tendency to be arrogant.
My two cents
Oldone

Robair

Hello Caterpillar thank you for all you posts they are very thoughtfuly expessed. Since you mention Dr Greg, I have been asking everyone here an there what kind of Dr he is no one seam to known, the first time I met him in Yucca 1983,he was some kind of marketing sale pusher,I stop to be current in ...

Robair

Hello Cerulean Thank you for all your posts first Just a little background on us We (my wife an I ) started this aventure in the summer of 1981 listening to tapes and getting together with few friends to talk about our new fond knowledge.Our first live encounter with Bubba was March 1982 the San Fra...

Robair

Hello Pete. Again I must tell you how great it is of you to keep the conversation going with us I for one do apreciate it very much. Your are very funny in this Quote I got a good experience with those teachers, but they did had their inaccuracies, like Mitche, he claimed to have 'manifested' a gold...

Robair

Hello Pete I do thank you kindly for your respond and you willingness to keep the communication open,it is much apreciated. Quote They hear about RSE, and the promises it keeps, and they put all their hopes, money and everything else into that school... That school isnt prepared to attend the mental...

Robair

Hello E.M.O Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I just have couple of things that I would like you to clarify for me if you don't mind . First you did not get the chance to talk to the big guy,if you would have had that opportunity Did you have questions prepared? and if so can you share ...

Robair

Hello guys
This is very amusing.
All I want to know is if Obama is the last BLACK pope (President) who was the first one :) :)
Oldone

Robair

Hello

Hey Tree what is it with JZ and Steve to keep coming back on that issue,I know it is very important to Yelm,but they are like dogs on and old bone that just want let it go an rest for a while.
Could it be that they have some kind of hidden agenda that we do not know about.
Oldone

Robair

Hello Very intersting The U.S. Commander of the Pacific Fleet has given American citizens and residents of these states only a very short time to comment on their draft EIS: Published on December 30, 2008, with a final public comment deadline extended to March 11, 2009. they are going to use the Pac...

Robair

Hello I find it very interesting and funny at the sametime that ramsters want to put their noses everywhere in the runnning of the town,but do not want anyone from outside in there affairs,I think it would only fair :lol: for the Mayor of Yelm to be invited to be part of the decisions making regardi...

Robair

Hello everyone About Moderators, I have fond out not long ago that this task fall on very few here on EMF,after giving some critical thinking I realized that this work might not be as glamorus as one may think. First it is a 24/7 job,just that one by it self is already a very ardious task that most ...

Robair

Hello everyone I have not been posting lately but I read most of the post. Question for Tree, (I see no sense in thinking you can go it alone in this world. You'll get eaten alive if left to fend for oneself totally alone.) Are you suggesting that everyone that come out of RSE or cult in General sho...

Robair

Hello David The Neto pot work ok,but Gossman make a special machine for Sinus,if you google Sinus irrigation you should see some of them it look like a Water Pick has a tank with different setting. I use Distiled Water an sea salt only,an also I will put 3 to 5 drop of Hidrogene Peroxide in the dist...

Robair

Hello One more thing about infection,for any kind of antibiotic to work they need a good flow of blood,and that might be one of the problem,Sinus have very little blood flowing true them making it very difficult for any kind of medecin to work including antibiotic. when Polyps have taking over I am ...

Robair

Hello David I did the C.S but did not work on me at all,it might work on small infection but not on Polyps,on the thing that help me before all the surgerys was the nose irrigation,I think you did try it,I was doing it 3 time a day,the stuff I sent you work on inflamation (swelling) it take about a ...

Robair

Merry Christmas everyone. Sitting here this morning reading some of you posts,I went back to visit (like I always do every years) the Christmas of my Childhood. The day before Christmas my mother an older sisters will be putting the final touch on the preparation for the Magical night,Food decoratio...

Robair

Hello Ordinarymind Here is what I think about Anonymity on this site,It is great to have the freedom to speak our mind with out having to think about the destructive consequences that could happen to our real life,and god know that beeing known to ALL is a risk that like you I am not willing to take...

Robair

Hello everyone Sitting at my desk and looking over at my 50 years old Mesquite Tree in my back yard I started to think about things I am Thankfull for, even though our Country is going true tuff time they still lot of think I am Very thankful for. Every year for the last 42 years I am Thankful first...

Robair

Hello Or Mind you are welcome I did burn most of my my book and all the tapes but for some reason I decided to keep this one an a few other to remind me the good things ,and good time we had back then and still wonder what happened, in 1981,the message was just that love your self into life. During ...

Robair

Quote Iwill tell you,beloved:Those who prophesied doom on this planet did it outside of their lifetimes,so no one could ever say that it did not come to pass and also they wouldn'thave to be part of it-for they despised mand kind in their beings because they despised them self. But this plane will n...

Robair

Hello Glen David

About J.O.
Did you get along with him?
Did you ever suprised him doing something he did not want you to see?

Oldone

Robair

Hello Glen David First>> Thank you again for the Video you have made a big Impact,I would have loved to be in Yelm after it came out,to see the reaction of everyone envolve,or even better a Fly on JZ wall. Q: Do you think Jennie would be interested to do a Video also? When we started doing UGs in 19...

Robair

Hello Ad About old tapes had some all the way from 1981,When I asked David what to do with all my stuff and tapes frrom RSE it respond was garbage is a good place for it so I did just that,and still happy about it,my garage Have a much better energy ever since, Yes way back then Ramtha said that mor...

Robair

Hello Guys Was away for a while, had to take a break This Ad is too funny I had to say something about it. is that call Sharing your Wealth ? it it not the Solution of our new Prez for this Country to Share our wealth . Since she was a very strong supporter of him it is only fair that she should get...

Robair

Hello C.D
I am not sensitive just got a short fuse oopps,,, see see what you are making me do, use the wrong word again.
LOL :) :)
oldone

Robair

Hello guys
What I Like to say here,, is everyone make a good points and leave at this.
And go on with more important things,
Thank you everybody be safe

Oldone

Robair

Hello everyone After thing for a while at first i was not going to respond but secound thought I Better do. First an formost no Apology will be come from me. I do not know A.D. C.D. an I am sure you mean well in your comment. But let review my post an Sadgrandpa Grandpa made a few comment about JZR ...

Robair

Hello Sad Grampa

they will still be hot when they get them.
Oldone

Robair

Hello He Xindy you got to stop changing you name you are gitting me all confused,trust me it does not take much these day as my young bride of 42 years is doing a pretty good job in that departement. Thank you for the vote of confidence. Are we intelligent because we know everything, OR we known eve...

Robair

Hello Sad About your daughter knowing everything now,I started with JZR in 1982,at that time it was fun to go to Dialogue an so call learning about the real truth,We moved to Yelm in 1989,did our first requirement fallow up,an after those two events Like your daugther we new everything. But later I ...

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Hello everyone About fear of JZR, my self I never had that problem an not to sure why other do ,that fear must have started after my departure as a paying unit because until then I had nerver heard anyone even mention that option. I read somewhere that JZR had told the audiance that she was going to...

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Hey Everyone got lost in the tank except the cheaters an JZR pet projet or future Beau...About getting the boot I am pretty tall,only Sir Robert could Have reach that hight,but he is way to lazy for that, if you look at him walk I am not to sure if his feet every got off the ground. Oldone :) :) :)

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Hello Whatcha. My self I do not belive that SIR Robert (how do you become a Sir) belive in Ramtha I am pretty sure that he is part of the the few that know the hole story.I have been told of his escapades in Vegas gambling large some of money,and buying very expensif Jewlery, Yes yes the booths and ...

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Hello Xindy One exercise that we did just a few time my self did it twice,was the running at each other bindfolded,it went like this we will all gather in the name field, around 900 of us we would split in half go to each end of the field,and put our Blinders on an wait for JZR to give the orther an...

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Hello Now that I look back at it with more clarity,I wonder what was the real reason for duck tapping us,was it for us not to cheat,or maybe it was to kepping us from dicorvering the real racket that was going on,like the special doors,the mockery,the helping of her prefer students,maybe it was them...

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Hello guys
Whatcha.
My first time in the Tank Spring of 1990 if I recall Duck tape was not use but came not long after.
I will let someone else tell about the Tank, also the Tubes should be mention
Oldone

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From an article on Yahoo. This is according to Amy Brunell a Psychologist at Ohio State University at Newalk. Narcissisits have an inflated view of their talents and abilities an are all about themselves. They don't care as much about others she added it's not suprrising that they become leaders. Th...

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Hello
Mr Klein sond more like a disgrunted yelm Citizen too me.
Oldone

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Hello David
Thank you for the respond,I am happy to hear that as I also was supprised by that statement.
also sometime things get reported not exaxtely in the context that they were said.
Great
Oldone

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Hello everyone
David
something is bathering,is it true that Glen asked the part about RSE bieng a cult be remove
if so why was his request was not respected.
Oldone

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Hello Wakeup-Call; she is derange enough to try. She a is very confused women, :? a real ZEBRA, one day she is a white horse with Black stripes and other day a Black horse white stripes. He Barack Hussein Obama look at me I can be a Muslim also all I got to do is put my stripes together VOILA! Oldon...

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Hello Tree thank you for the good wishes. Was suppose to be 25 minutes an took over an hour,he did a new procedure,using a balloon to enlarge the openning, an the cavity instead of cutting his way true it,resulting in a much better end product no bleeding and very little pain,I am telling you it bea...

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Very Funny I think she is watching to much CNN. You would think that with Ramtha in her corner the two of them would be able to come up with something extraordinaire,not one things is new If you fallow politic a bit you have heard all of that I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW. some of the best education...

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Hello
He Wakeup-call
You know what the say! Memory is the second thing to go.
Oldone

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Hello guys part of the interview in the In Light Times I.L.T. Other issues our world is dealing with is Global Warming,Earth Changes and upcoming 2012 event---the ending of the Mayan calendar.What can we expect an how can we prepare? JZ.. I suggest your readers locate and watch the DVD The Horizon P...

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Hello guys In that interview with In Light Times. I.L.T How the scientiffic community respond to Ramtha? JZ. I'am fortunate in as much as I had opened up myself for two years of testing and reviewing by the best scholards and scientists whose fields included religion,world religion,history,quantum p...

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Hello guys Did not do much lately have been battelling Kidney stone for the last week,not fun. Was at my Chyroprator today and she had a stack of the new September issue of I.L.T with JZ on the cover. WOW what a facelift ,I mean everything is new,eyes lips very unreal. She gave them an interview als...

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Hello Swami First it is great that you are open enough to have a PARLER with us. I have read all your post an must admit with no intention of being insulting, and can safely say that all of us have be there done that. At the end of your last post you mention and I Quote (All our personal experiences...

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Hello guys
In 1981 it was a $100. for an hour
LOL
Oldone

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Hello guys This is too funny I am in stocks, bonds, and some currencies, since Dr Creg and Ramtha can not predict the future, on this letter it look like they are taking a shot at predicting the past,,LOl LOL, I should not be that way laughing at those poor souls but this is to hard to pass Oldone

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Hello CD Rebellious,need to be different,not comforming to the norn,are good base for Rse to build on. I never realy cared about the staff,or JZ I considered her the Body that it, I had few of the staff working for me,and there impeccability was not very impresive at best. It hard for me to acept th...

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Hello guys
Yes I do think so I mensioned it to David few week ago, Not only James But also Sir Robert,and
Dr Creg ,Sir Robert (what a Joke) is spending money like crazy,they have to be in the scam, I am sure David will have an opinion on it also.
Oldone

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Good Evening,Hope everyone have a Great 4th uf July. About the Wingmakers I had forgotten about it,since we were not current at that time,a Friend of us from the shool had printed them for us,we tought that they were Beautiful,my friends were going to explain to us the meaning of it all the next tim...

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Hello guys Did not do much lately due to migraines that have been pledging my life the last week or so. Hey Tree do I get it corectly they can not have there food in there UG.WOW what a bummer,what are they planning to do with that twist. Build your self a Ug with haft rebars and half concrete, get ...

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Hi Tree After reading your post, I realized that even though we all have been true the same experince at RSE,we do not have the same aftermat problems to deal with. I never thought much about JZ while I was in the school for me she was just the body,was not that happy to see her act the way she did ...

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Hello WOW WOW 10 children, my god when did you have time to do anything,our favorite friend's daughter had twins 6 months ,she had her Mother that helped full time for the first 5 months,I mean 24/7 and now she have a nany 40 hrs a week and her mother helping 4 days a week,and she still have a hard ...

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That's it
I am going to look for my holly blinders, get ready Las Vegas I got the truck

Oldone

The Best Thing About The Future Is That It Only Comes One Day At The Time

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Hello Tree thank you for the hugs an good wishes. I can see changes in your new posts from the one months ago,you seam to have reach a new level in you journey you sean to be more at peace with your self, maybe someday we can sit down face to face and just talk about the old and the new. It is great...

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Hello everyone We have moved into our new house 3 days ago,Don't know what going on but it look like we are having a hard to fit our 2000 SQ foot house in the new 3000 SQ one, folks it does not fit will have to get rid of lot of stuff Again. Jut got the internet back today,I see I have lot of catchi...

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Hello agian JTR, About enlightenment! I did not realy tought about it Before RSE, and and Now I put it in the Same Category, of my stroggle with God Thank for all your help I do reed all your post, even though you have been on the out site your own stroggle must have been very hard,you bring a great...

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Hello guys Tree,and ordinary. Even though I have not been current since the end of 1996,I always consided my self to be a Ramster at Large,until last summer,when someone directed me to this site. After 25 years of so knowing What I tought Who God was , it has been and still my bigest Challange to ov...

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Hello Guys. Very sad to hear that Again, and Again. We have been true all of this with the county,we had 10 acres with many structures on it, it took us close to 3 years and $163,000.00 to get all of the permits including bringing Puget Power to all of them. Lucky for us we had great help from a rea...

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Hello David
P.M you about 30 minutes or so before reading this.let me know what you think on this page if tou like.
Oldone

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Hello Tree You are funny,but keep in mind all he had to do was to push on the two little sticks next to him, he only did it for 4 hour at the time,it must bhave been very tirering to do. About the money he is spending,I worte and email to David a week ago about that,to check on it and gave him some ...

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I like that
Snake Oil Sales man, Brown nosers. and Un Dr Gregster.
Oldone

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Hello guys Not to many things realy get me P.O about the Ranch ,but Dr in front of Craig's name and Sir in Front of Robert's name realy does. I said it before and will say it again,the first time I met Craig S. was in 1982 in Yucca valley,I gave him a ride to the L.A. Airport after the retreat he go...

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Here is a tought. Now imagine that every morning for many years,for someone driving the hiway and byway in Thuston County to see all kind of Machine going by with blimdfolded pasengers and on one occasion a blindfolded driver, going by them I can only guest what they were calling us,,Hey Hey here is...

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Hello tree This is funny the rental guy comming to help,did he had his blinders on,I just can imagine the look on the face of the owner LOL. should mention the winter I builted 7 Ugs on the same land,it look like a small city as you could see from one of them as it was much higher then the other one...

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Hey tree Looking back at all of this we must admit there is lot of very funny story. Today they are doing them in Concrete,do they mix the concrete by hand if so that would be a funny site to see,or do they have all inpeccable concrete truck drivers, also probaby need to use a pump truck,do the truc...

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Yes copper everything, copper Hat copper jakets,copper blindfold,all copper for Ugs and the house also.copper the cab of the truck.
This is too funny I got to stop.
Oldone

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Now think about that You will get to the secret site,and start working,since you did not have Power,you will be using Chain Saw grenerators, Hammer Slegs Hammers skil saw drill, and all of a sudden the win will come and everyone will be scream thinking the Ram was visiting ,and at lunch time everyon...

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Hello. guys Many funny thing happend while working on Ugs,Like the one Tree just mention I am sure she has more,her partener builded many of them also. If you were a Ug builder when you got a contract to build one, the fun would start,you had to bring all the supply on the site,so you would go to Ye...

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Hello If you remember at the begenning you was do dig your UG by your self,no help and keep it very secret, we got tired of this very fast and we came up with the ideal that if we blindfold someone they could come and help.The funny part was to see an old pickup truck driving on Vail road with a dri...

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Hello again. Thank you. Contrairy to many I did not leave the school in bad term,I stop to be current in 1996 when we left Yelm to go get some more money in the real world,with intention to comeback someday,we considered our self to be non current Ramsters until last summer when we spent 2 months in...

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Hello Whatch
sorry about the spelling of your name,Just testing the level of your kindness.
Oldone
The best thing about the future is that it only comes one day at the time (Abraham Linclon)

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Hello watch. I do not remember him saying that,but I am sure he did,it is funny what we select to remember,but more funny that he mentioned his right,since I thought he never did care about anyone rights. Oldone The best thing about the future is that it only come one day at the time (Abraham Lincoln)

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Hello Well; have not been on for sometime Have been busy remodeling our new house the last 4 month (Since I stop blowing to manifest, thing are going much better)Just do it the old fashion way Hard word.Planning to put our story on this site later this summer,with the Hope that current students will...

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I have a surgery done about a month ago to remove a Kidney stone,was not realy a surgery meaning no cutting and no needle was use except for the I V. They put you to sleep on a special table and use high presure water jet to blast it. That work very well,for me.Very little pain afterward Prior to th...

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Hey Tiger
This is to funny.
Do you think Sir Robert is Bi sexual and Ramtha's secret lover LOL
I am so scare now.
Do you yhink I am safe her in Vegas, LOL
Nice to see you Back

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