The disciplines and,"great work," as metaphor for reality

[Ockham]

Not being a paid subscriber of the RSE courses, I have to go with what is available in the books and recordings available to the public. Something which seems to be absent from the RSE instruction is that the, "great work," is not an end in and of itself. Things such as C+E, the list, reading cards, neighborhood walking, paradise beach and on and on are disciplines. Disciplines get you in the door to great work in as much as they arguably sharpen intellectual acuity.

Solving a crossword puzzle is also a very challenging task that hones intellectual acuity. If nothing else, you'll build up a huge vocabulary as a crossword puzzle solver. This past weekend, Will Shortz, the writer of the NY Times puzzle said that he has volunteer checkers that can solve the Sunday Times crossword in about 20 minutes. For anyone that's evert tried solving the Sunday crossword, that seems like an incredible and powerful feat to be able to vanquish the puzzle in such a short time. Solving the puzzle is a discipline, but that skill is backed by a huge mastery of philosophy, science, sports, math, history, culture, etc. In essence such a master would have to be the incarnation of a true renaissance individual with knowledge in every field. What being a crossword master won't get you is a job. ... except for maybe being a puzzle writer, but there aren't any vacancies in that field right now.

Similarly, mastering the RSE great work won't make you anything more than a master of the great work. Know any vacancies looking to hire a card reader or an individual really good at C+E? I didn't think so. If you are lucky, the RSE disciplines will help show you the value of the benefits of concentration, sacrifice, diligence, creativity and patience have in manifesting what you need. The RSE disciplines aren't what you really need become a master, but rather a metaphor to show you how to develop those other skills and traits you do require. You can think about all sorts of wonderful things you want the universe to bring to you all day long, but it ain't gonna happen until you put out some effort to make it so. A case in point is that it is totally impossible to win the lottery until you at the very least go buy a ticket; you can think about it all you want. You'll just have to face the music that becoming a true master takes dedication and time. There is no shortcut.

By the way, the answer is 42. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboZctrHfK8

[forever]

The "Great Work" is about resolving human image and everything attached to it and to bring forth Christ consciousness, Christ. Meaning God realized. Along with it all the capabilities of a Christ. One who has mastered all limitations. All physicality. By completely eradicating all human identity and physical limitations. The program we live called personality. The image identity ego identifiable self.

Initially the C+E and focused breath was presented and explained as a way to manifest. Rather then the mass to mass physical method called j-o-b. Instead, the disciplines replaced it. It doesn't matter what people do in life Focus is vital. However, the disciplines are the quantum mechanic method that's above physicality and quicker. Why work for 30 years at a job to pay for a house that you can manifest? Being able to manifest becomes the priority and means of survival. And where does that leave the great work, resolving image and bringing forth Christ? It's gotten replaced. And the active ingredient being Spirit that does the manifesting is completely omitted.

What's happened is all the focus is on the brain. Rewiring, remapping the brain to create the " I am God" reality. Well excuse me but obviously they don't believe their own teachings because if you look at the "journey", the pyramid icon used to present light spectrum as levels of consciousness, each level has a color, frequency and consciousness. All the way to apex-point zero. Place of beginning.

The 3rd level, visible light, is culmination of first 3 levels, copulation, pain and suffering, power. Power being victim/tyrant. The next level 4th, is taught as "bridge consciousness". Love. You see anything at RSE that resembles Love?

If you wanna know what someone really is and how they really are-get em drunk. Because what's already within em is gonna come out. Alcohol doesn't create it-it allows it. And the behavior of a drunken Ramtha at wine ceremonies is the truth of the source of who and what is speaking-running the school-the show.

What i see are very image oriented human beings with a major physical identity. Trying to get spiritual through intellectual means. Using the teachings to become "successful". OMG. What a contradiction. When in fact "success/failure" IS the image as taught by "Ramtha". Oh yeah, i forgot, that was years ago. Now it's all about....being someone? It nuts imo. Double talk. Carrot in front of donkey. A wild goose chase. With the Guru in charge. High on power and raking in the $$$$. Ironically, using her "success" as evidence the teachings work? It has for her. Not for the suckers that give her the control she has of them-her followers. Of course never mind that RSE is completely contrary to the teachings from dialogue days?

What heals wounds and changes someone? Focus or Love? Are you aware that Love was the theme-platform that was presented early on and that attracted so many? The teachings were about being whole. Taught that in a state of Love there is no lack. In a state of Love there's wholeness. That's what was taught. So why isn't the focus on LOVE? Being whole.

On the ladder of evolution next level up from 4th is 5th, super consciousness. That's what's taught.

Questiion: How do you get to the 5th rung without going through the 4th-which is love? Not to mention taught that the hormones open the brain, glands connected to each seal and level of consciousness. What's the agenda? To become a rich and famous, fabulously wealthy human being or Christ Consciousness? God realized. As per the teachings. That change to match the agenda of Judith Hampton, aka JZ Knight.

If i wanted help for my life and to become enlightened i certainly wouldn't pay to go hear and watch someone/something whine about her personal problems, sex life. It's completely absurd and very dark. Absolutely a cult. Makes me shudder. And i was a supporter of "Ramtha' and the teachings.

There was a time when "human morality" was important. Being impeccable. Getting out of bed long enough to consider and contemplate "lofty" ideals. The unknown. Go beyond the image.

[forever]

42? I watched it.

Let's see, if i remember correctly that was the WAR between Atlations and Lemurians. The Atlations were technolgy worshippers and Lemurians were spiritual.

Technology is heartless and soulless.

What if we are the ones that created the computer and program. To do our thinking for us. And forgot we created it? Continue to look for answers in all the wrong places?

[Ockham]

I reallhy meant that in jest, however,... 42 is from Douglas Adams' book, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It took 7.5 million years to find the answer, and it is going to take another 10 million years to find the question. The reference to the giant computer hints at some of the more radical [at least to me] modern ideas of quantum phisics / quantum information theory that the entire universe cold be a holographic projection from a yet unknown information source. It is interesting to me that quantum information theory sounds at least passingly similar to Akashic Records H. P. Blavatsky and the Theosophy movement

The Edgar Cayce A.R.E. web site has a nicely written piece on the topic. What a contrast to quality of writing on RSE's web site: http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/spiritual ... px?id=2078

Or in the words of the science community: http://phys.org/news/2013-12-credence-t ... ogram.html

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Alcohol dropping the veil to reveal your inner id to yourself: Argh! - the rationalizations of an alcholic. Yeah, we behave differently when we are intoxicated. That's not because something has been revealed, but because the brain has been poisoned and isn't functioning normally. No behavior expressed in an intoxicated state is emblematic of anything other than a state of biological malfunction. Super ego, ego and id all suffer a breakdown. I have a feeling neuroscientists would agree that all parts of the brain become intoxicated simulateously.

[forever]

It was explained to me reason for wine is one, "it takes out the guard". Meaning the filter in the brain that blocks anything other than it's current reality.

Two, the reservatrol (in red wine ) makes the brain, gives it plasticity-meaning it can be programmed.

The idea wasn't to get drunk and drop inhibitions. It was to shut the current program down, stop time, and in that state focus on what's being said by Ram. That the neurons are firing and connecting to form a neuronet. So that in the morn even if you didn't remember what was taught it would be in your head, brain and become "reality".

When the veil is down soul/brain is exceedingly vulnerable. Ramtha said Never drop your veil in a public place.

Right, drink only at a wine ceremony so when you wake up you are unconscious of how awful the previous night was-that's gonna be stuck in your head? No Thanks. I don't even take pain medication.

[Ockham]

I am not sure I have straight what is RSE implying about tobacco smoking and nitric oxide. According to the American Heart Association, smoking decreasees plasma levels of NO and important antioxidants, and that may be tied to aggravating factors for cellular damage from Smoking. Not a.good thing in the I don't want to have cancer department. It I seems like smoking would be a sort of anti Viagra due to depressed plasma NO which would seem to tend keep blood vessels constricted.

http://m.circ.ahajournals.org/content/105/10/1155.full

I also take exception to the notion that resveritrol promotes neural plasticity. It is probably exactly the opposite. Resveritrol has been studied for its affects on neurogenesis in the hippocampus. The hippocampus is THE mediator of learning and.memory, and you won't be doing any reprogramming if your hippocampus is impaired. That's why alcoholics have impaired memory and cognitive ability. Not exactly enlighteent in my book:

http://www.researchgate.net/publication ... urogenesis

[forever]

WOW. Thank You. I will read ASAP.

It's another one of those things i trusted blindly.

I am very fortunate in that i was only in arena for 2-3 "wine ceremonies". Three others i ran and hid. For real. I was scared. Once i climbed the wall and left. Another i was outside the door rather than in arena.

[forever]

As i look at it now it's ridiculous. At that time and era Ramtha was major. And without internet who had access to what we now know? All of us were goo goo ga ga. Bullshit was taken as brilliance. Who's gonna question an ascended master?

At the time the exalted ones were Dr Joe, chiropractor, Gregg Simmons, PR? "Father', wax museum dude that reminded me of a corpse.

When Ramtha had Dr Joe make the great presentation on N.O. ....it was Ramtha endorsed. :)

Yeah, so was prozac, twinkies, omega, the water, on and on. Whatever "Ramtha" said people accepted without question.

Do i believe it was Ramtha talking? No. I don't.

Tell me something please, if JZ is really in constant contact with Ramtha the enlightened one that's all knowing and wise and he's the source of information, totoring JZ, why then does she read everything she can get her hands on that she then adds to Ramtha's knowingness?

[forever]

As with anything there's truth mixed in with fiction. To entice, deceive, confuse and control. The bottom line is always the same. Greed, $$$$$, image. It's wearisome. Ironically the "great work" is about resolving the image.

I saw an article and picture about Joan Rivers tonight. She was decked out. It was startling to see how much she and JZ look alike. It's "the look" ya know?

It's interesting that JZ has been snubbed by Oprah. And then 'Ramtha" tells audience how jealous Oprah was that JZ/Evans had a bigger yacht? Yeah right. Crap. It's sad.

How many times was JZ going to retire or die over the years? Apparently the ascended one wasn't planning on going to the Hindu people. Although if you check the very beginning "teachings" it's in the first few pages. That was decades ago. And now the push is on. Yeah, it's a new market.